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mabell:
No matter what, the work of God will still continue
People will still attend the program

lagerwhenindoubt:
Do not be concerned about the Anti-Christ or where he's from or when he will manifest his presence. be concerned for your soul

Dalby:
Also forget all those stories. She equally wanted it
If she can say NO now after the act like she is claiming she could have continued on that path before the act. Collecting gifts from someone you want to have nothing to do with. I laugh in spanish

nuclearboy:
^^^ what of the other members? What manner of hold does the yaks-master have over them? Why do they insist on a lie even when evidence to the contrary is overwhelming?

Enigma:
This bit really gets me; I mean it makes me so so sad that I have to confront the fact that Joagbaje now seems evidently to be a deceiver ---- perhaps because of the comforts and lucre he is enjoying as a Christ Embassy "pastor"; in the beginning I thought he was just misguided; now I think he is in fact guided by his belly.

Enigma:
In addition to the very good posts by Nuke and Petres, is the story below also literally true? Afterall there was no use of "likened to", "is like" etc etc.

Enigma:
Meanwhile, do people notice that Joagbaje has so far not denied the implications of his claim that Jesus was born again as I set out earlier. Also, do people notice that neither he nor the rest of his supporters has disowned the heresies of Copeland etc that Jesus was tortured by satan and demons ---- which is associated with/part of the "Jesus died spiritually" argument made by Joagbaje & co?

nuclearboy:
I see that we have to take this to a logical conclusion.

Lets start with background - Christ spoke ONLY in Parables to the multitude. He never spoke plainly to them.

"And He begins to speak to them in parables." (Mark 12:1).

"All these things Jesus speaks in parables to the throngs, and apart from a parable He spoke nothing to them, " (Matt 13:34).

Jesus spoke in parables so that his listeners would not understand His Words

The fact that Jesus spoke to the masses in parables only, ought to be sufficient Scriptural evidence to anyone that "Lazarus and the Rich man" is indeed a parable.

donnie:


Eph 4: 8
When He ascended on high, he led captives in His train and gave gifts to men.




Ephes. 4:9
   (What does 'he ascended' mean except that he also descended to the lower, earthly regions?




Matthew 27:50-53
   Jesus, when he had cried again with a loud voice, yielded up the ghost. [51] And, behold, the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom; and the earth did quake, and the rocks rent; [52] And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose, [53] And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many.

From where did these come? Where were these captives locked up?

nuclearboy:
lets be specific - which Greek Bible? By the way, NIV sucks and its translations are not trustworthy

nuclearboy:
Above post directed at Donnie, not James Bond

donnie:
When you read the king James, bear in mind that in the original Greek we didn't have punctuations.

Luke 23:43
And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, To day shalt thou be with me in paradise.

See what happens when you move the coma from after the word 'thee' to after the word 'To day'.

Luke 23:43
And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee To day, thou shalt be with me in paradise.

donnie:
Bear in mind also that Jesus did not go straight to heaven from the cross, He descended into hell because he bore our sins.

ROSSIKE:
Here's how christianity will end - a time comes in the future of unprecedented global catastrophe. Jesus does NOT arrive despite the prayers and bible - wrought expectation of millions. Many are annihilated. NONE are taken up in any ''rapture'', and faith in the deity known as Jesus, comes to a widespread, crushing end.

A hundred years later, his worship is virtually forgotten among the world's peoples.

Confined to the dusty pages of history books.

A mere memory.

A mere academic reflection.

Undertaken by the odd nutty professor.

It will be similar to the end of the worship of earlier gods like Horus, Osiris, Mithra, Dionysus etc.

It will be the same with Jesus.

To fill the spiritual void, new Chris Oyakhilomes of the future no doubt, will invent a ''saviour'' out of thin air like their predecessors did, complete with fairytales, ''miracles'', ''prophecies'', and even a ''holy book'', milk it for all its worth, charge gate fees, drain the poor of their hard-earned wealth, as the cycle of deceit, exploitation, and greed continues unabated.

Joagbaje:
Excellent analogy nuella. God is to you what you need him to be, the gospel to the captives is freedom , to the poor the gospel is his prosperity,to the sick also the gospel is divine health.

Image123:
If Jesus the Son of God makes you free, you will be free indeed. Do you believe that, infinitii?

nuclearboy:
The angel thing seems tame compared to that disaster in the video. I felt physical pain watching it.

This obviously had to be have resulted from deprivation in youth - the old dolt in that video had obviously lost his marbles - his nanny must have denied him the milk he needed to develop as a child and put cat-piss in his feeder instead for those 2 crucial years.

Enigma:
I wish someone would find the video in which "papa Hagin" said he was visited by two angels --- he gave two ridiculous names for the angels. I believe that the man was a pathological liar apart from being a plagiarist.

mazaje:
I believe the video below is the one you were talking about. . . .

Holy ghost laughter. . . .

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This guys are really funny. . . .

nuclearboy:
I'd have said its more ridiculous than funny. Some of these people seem to have dirty dishwater in place of brains.

mazaje:
Muddley your pics are very hilarious. . .I can't stop laughing. . . .Benny Hinn dey vex ohh. . .

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deadie:
Well, better. When u are dead, nothing bothers u. As for the heaven part, believe, it is the greatest piece of fiction in human history.

nuclearboy:
True to type, the single digit support "army" is up in arms. Interesting that these always know everyone though they only joined NL yesterday.

Nobody is fooled

thehomer:
So is "gentile" a spiritual designation?

studyabrod:
u missed the point galantly my dear.all will be well for those who abide in the Shadow of the Almighty.Psalm91 vs 1.when there was turmoil in Egypt,the Lord kept His Chosen from evil by providing a Goshen for them.There is always a Goshen for the children of God even in the face of worst tribulations.so Pastor Adeboye was only re echoing the scriptures.[b]Wellness is not for all but for those who come to Jesus.[/b]Matt 11 vs 28,29

evilspirit:
And ye shall hear of wars and rumors of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.
For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.
All these are the beginning of sorrows.

And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.

For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

the bible thru matthew  24 predicted the last days will be terrible with many of the things highlighted above happening yet pastor Adeboye gathered people together to say 'all will be well' when the bible said all will not be well in the end time.Adeboye  said we should pray against civil war when God ,thru the bible, said all these include Wars are the evidence of his coming.  doesnt he know that Christ wont come until these happens So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it.
  Isaiah 55:11

Joagbaje:
I guess what you are making reference to the Rapture of the church.  The rapture of the church is not the same as the The second coming of christ . The rapture is the next immediate experience for the church. [/b]It is [b]a disappearance of Christians from the earth which will take place within split of second (twilking of an eye)