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obadiah777: is Christ my lord ? yes. my Savior ? yes.

ariseandshine: He sure does, if not what hope has he got. Abi @ Obadiah777

MostHigh: First he be raging with insults having reached the depths of his intelligence

Then he asks the most popular question from the christopagan manual

obadiah777: oh i see, so you are saying you have only read one book in the bible. THE GOSPEL ACCORDING TO JOHN. no wonder you are always talking out of the side of your neck

obadiah777: what are you talking about ? who said Jesus is God ? lmao >>> 1 corinthians 11 vs 3 But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God. <<< heirachy

obadiah777: i notice you only quote from the new testament. you must be like Goshen. one of those 'the old testament is done away with kinda people'. no wonder you are always talking crap

obadiah777: two of the same. let me see if i can get an analogy. an ounce of Gold is an ounce of Gold anywhere in the world. so if the father is an ounce of Gold and the son is an ounce of Gold. they are two but the same. right ? the holy spirit is not calibrated. it is the same. and since they are both spirit beings, they are the exact same. however if they both decide to put on body suits and come to earth ? they would look different but since they are not in body ? they are the same spirit. hence why christ says me and my father are the same

obadiah777: let me first start by saying that after going back and forth with more than 4 scoffers, all the names run into each other and i stop looking at names and start looking at posts. i forgot you were one of the enlightened. so pardon my rudeness. now i digress

isaiah 9 vs 6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. >>>>> well one thing to remember is that the holy spirit is the same. does not matter if it is in God, Christ or in man. it is the same holy spirit. now the perfection of the holy spirit is the same in God and Christ but not so much in man. this is why when you see Christ, you see God. they are both spirit beings so they are the exact same thing. but they are two of a kind. gerrit ?

john 10 vs 29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand. I and my Father are one.

Chanchit: This topic is beyond my jurisdiction, I know nothing about angels the best I can do is to shut up, cos it seems as if everybody here be deputy angel.


Oga Phil', na wa o, so you even be bible scholar now.

obadiah777: the man said no one has seen Christ and people who see him go blind lwtmb how am i supposed to take this guy serious ? so the thousands of people he was preaching to all went blind ? well dayummm. instead of healing he was making people blind lol

logica: Once again, Real Madrid enjoyed plenty of dubious calls against Getafe.

haibe: the word "Sire" is common between you and obadiah, are you brothers

obadiah777: you dont know the bible. keep it moving reprobate. i need more worthy opponents. stop wasting my time

obadiah777: absolute rubbish. a woman approached him and spoke to him and she did not go blind. i believe his word to her was 'it is not meet for the food of the children to be given to dogs'

go and study your bible some more. i dont think you have read the bible by yourself yet

obadiah777: ok now back to the issue at hand. if these stiff necked and rebellious gainsayers dont get confounded by this sound doctrine i am about to drop then nothing else would confound them

who is the angel that goes around throwing people out of heaven and locking them in hell ?

rev 12 7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into hell, and his angels were cast out with him.

who ? the only angel who has the key to heaven and hell ? >>>>

rev 1 vs 18 I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.

OK CASE CLOSED PEOPLE. NOTHING TO SEE HERE. CASE SOLVED. WE CAN ALL LEAVE THE THREAD NOW. SHOWS OVER

ibitomisi: pray well, you don't need revelations, all you need is accurate knowlegde of God's word, and i suggest you pray for that, i bet you'll surely know the truth, instead of been fooled with revelations which we ain't sure if it was a dream or a nightmare or even an act of unconciousness

CanadaCars: The scriptures prove that Jesus is Michael the archangel, consider the following scriptures with an open mind,


ACCORDING to the Bible, there are millions of angelic creatures inhabiting the spirit realm. (Daniel 7:9, 10; Revelation 5:11) From beginning to end, the Scriptures make hundreds of references to the angels that remain loyal to God. Yet, only two of these spirit creatures are mentioned by name. One is the angel Gabriel, who personally delivered messages from God to three different individuals over a period of some 600 years. (Daniel 9:20-22; Luke 1:8-19, 26-28) The other angel mentioned by name in the Bible is Michael.


Michael is clearly an outstanding angel. For example, in the book of Daniel, Michael is described as fighting wicked demons in behalf of God’s people. (Daniel 10:13; 12:1) In the inspired letter of Jude, Michael confronts Satan in a dispute over Moses’ body. (Jude 9) The book of Revelation shows that Michael wars with Satan and his demons and hurls them out of heaven. (Revelation 12:7-9) No other angel is portrayed as having such great power and authority over God’s enemies. It is no wonder, then, that the Bible appropriately refers to Michael as “the archangel,” the prefix “arch” meaning “chief,” or “principal"


Aside from Michael, no archangel is mentioned in the Bible, nor do the Scriptures use the term “archangel” in the plural. The Bible describes Michael as the archangel, implying that he alone bears that designation. Hence, it is reasonable to conclude that God has delegated to one, and only one, of his heavenly creatures full authority over all other angels.


Aside from the Creator himself, only one faithful person is spoken of as having angels under subjection—namely, Jesus Christ. (Matthew 13:41; 16:27; 24:31) The apostle Paul made specific mention of “the Lord Jesus” and “his powerful angels.” (2 Thessalonians 1:7) And Peter described the resurrected Jesus by saying: “He is at God’s right hand, for he went his way to heaven; and angels and authorities and powers were made subject to him.”—1 Peter 3:22.


While there is no statement in the Bible that categorically identifies Michael the archangel as Jesus, there is one scripture that links Jesus with the office of archangel. In his letter to the Thessalonians, the apostle Paul prophesied: “The Lord himself will descend from heaven with a commanding call, with an archangel’s voice and with God’s trumpet, and those who are dead in union with Christ will rise first.” (1 Thessalonians 4:16) In this scripture Jesus is described as having assumed his power as God’s Messianic King. Yet, he speaks with “an archangel’s voice.” Note, too, that he has the power to raise the dead.


While on earth as a human, Jesus performed several resurrections. In doing so, he used his voice to utter commanding calls. For example, when resurrecting the dead son of a widow in the city of Nain, he said: “Young man, I say to you, Get up!” (Luke 7:14, 15) Later, just before resurrecting his friend Lazarus, Jesus “cried out with a loud voice: ‘Lazarus, come on out!’” (John 11:43) But on these occasions, Jesus’ voice was the voice of a perfect man.


After his own resurrection, Jesus was raised to a “superior position” in heaven as a spirit creature. (Philippians 2:9) No longer a human, he has the voice of an archangel. So when God’s trumpet sounded the call for “those who are dead in union with Christ” to be raised to heaven, Jesus issued “a commanding call,” this time “with an archangel’s voice.” It is reasonable to conclude that only an archangel would call “with an archangel’s voice.”


Yes, there are other angelic creatures of high rank, such as seraphs and cherubs. (Genesis 3:24; Isaiah 6:2) Yet, the Scriptures point to the resurrected Jesus Christ as the chief of all angels—Michael the archangel.

CanadaCars: The scriptures prove that Jesus is Michael the archangel, consider the following scriptures with an open mind,


ACCORDING to the Bible, there are millions of angelic creatures inhabiting the spirit realm. (Daniel 7:9, 10; Revelation 5:11) From beginning to end, the Scriptures make hundreds of references to the angels that remain loyal to God. Yet, only two of these spirit creatures are mentioned by name. One is the angel Gabriel, who personally delivered messages from God to three different individuals over a period of some 600 years. (Daniel 9:20-22; Luke 1:8-19, 26-28) The other angel mentioned by name in the Bible is Michael.


Michael is clearly an outstanding angel. For example, in the book of Daniel, Michael is described as fighting wicked demons in behalf of God’s people. (Daniel 10:13; 12:1) In the inspired letter of Jude, Michael confronts Satan in a dispute over Moses’ body. (Jude 9) The book of Revelation shows that Michael wars with Satan and his demons and hurls them out of heaven. (Revelation 12:7-9) No other angel is portrayed as having such great power and authority over God’s enemies. It is no wonder, then, that the Bible appropriately refers to Michael as “the archangel,” the prefix “arch” meaning “chief,” or “principal"


Aside from Michael, no archangel is mentioned in the Bible, nor do the Scriptures use the term “archangel” in the plural. The Bible describes Michael as the archangel, implying that he alone bears that designation. Hence, it is reasonable to conclude that God has delegated to one, and only one, of his heavenly creatures full authority over all other angels.


Aside from the Creator himself, only one faithful person is spoken of as having angels under subjection—namely, Jesus Christ. (Matthew 13:41; 16:27; 24:31) The apostle Paul made specific mention of “the Lord Jesus” and “his powerful angels.” (2 Thessalonians 1:7) And Peter described the resurrected Jesus by saying: “He is at God’s right hand, for he went his way to heaven; and angels and authorities and powers were made subject to him.”—1 Peter 3:22.


While there is no statement in the Bible that categorically identifies Michael the archangel as Jesus, there is one scripture that links Jesus with the office of archangel. In his letter to the Thessalonians, the apostle Paul prophesied: “The Lord himself will descend from heaven with a commanding call, with an archangel’s voice and with God’s trumpet, and those who are dead in union with Christ will rise first.” (1 Thessalonians 4:16) In this scripture Jesus is described as having assumed his power as God’s Messianic King. Yet, he speaks with “an archangel’s voice.” Note, too, that he has the power to raise the dead.


While on earth as a human, Jesus performed several resurrections. In doing so, he used his voice to utter commanding calls. For example, when resurrecting the dead son of a widow in the city of Nain, he said: “Young man, I say to you, Get up!” (Luke 7:14, 15) Later, just before resurrecting his friend Lazarus, Jesus “cried out with a loud voice: ‘Lazarus, come on out!’” (John 11:43) But on these occasions, Jesus’ voice was the voice of a perfect man.


After his own resurrection, Jesus was raised to a “superior position” in heaven as a spirit creature. (Philippians 2:9) No longer a human, he has the voice of an archangel. So when God’s trumpet sounded the call for “those who are dead in union with Christ” to be raised to heaven, Jesus issued “a commanding call,” this time “with an archangel’s voice.” It is reasonable to conclude that only an archangel would call “with an archangel’s voice.”


Yes, there are other angelic creatures of high rank, such as seraphs and cherubs. (Genesis 3:24; Isaiah 6:2) Yet, the Scriptures point to the resurrected Jesus Christ as the chief of all angels—Michael the archangel.

JMAN05: what made it an insult?

Was it an insult that Jesus is a servant of God?

was it an insult that he washed the feet of his disciples?

was it an insult that God taught him?

was it an insult that God gave him a commandment?

was it an insult that he calls God my God?

was it an insult that he doesnt know when the end will be?

was it an insult that all authority that he has was giving him by God?

was it an insult that he has to submit to God's will even when that is different from his will?

was it an insult that he doesnt have authority to determine who will be in his right hand?

ALL THE ABOVE IS NO.

It is now an insult to call him a messenger?


NOW TO KNOW WHAT IS AN INSULT, JUST TURN THE STATEMENT. Put ''Jehovah'' in place of Jesus in the above and see the difference.

for eg. starting from the last question;

if we insert Jehovah, they will read thus:

It is now an insult to call ''Jehovah'' a messenger? what do you think the answer is? YES

Was it an insult that ''JEHOVAH'' doesnt have authority to determine who will be in his right hand? what do you think is the answer? YES

was it an insult that all authority that ''Jehovah'' has was giving him by God? what is the answer? YES

Was it an insult that ''Jehovah'' doesnt know when the end will be? YES, not so?

was it an insult that ''Jehovah'' calls Jesus my God? YES, not so?

Was it an insult that Jesus gave ''Jehovah'' a commandment? YES, not so?

was it an insult that Jesus taught ''Jehovah''? YES, not so?

was it an insult that ''Jehovah'' is a servant of Jesus? YES, not so?

FROM THE ABOVE, CAN YOU SINCERELY SAY THAT JEHOVAH AND JESUS ARE EQUAL?

Ithink that is the reason why you think its an insult.

haibe: I don't know about mr president but I know most high and obadiah is just one person, obadiah uses most high, a second handle to complement his points.

faymoss: doe its not all bad bringing such issues that shud make people get the truth but i ask..on nairaland, y is it all alwz abt christianity..oda religion nko??them no dey bring things abt dem let dem get d truth

smoothlips: jus out of curiosity which chapter of the bible mentioned the trinity?

Leon90: please read my post thoroughly before u start spilling insults on urself. Ok?

django1: Most of you people on the opposing view of this matter are mostly been emotional and abusive, its not helping your case.


Note: a popular opinion is NOT necessarily the correct one.

obadiah777: you do err. worshipping christ simply means studying your bible. christ is the bible. dont worship christ the man. worship Christ the word >>>>

john 1 vs 14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth. <<< christ is the bible.

django1: Obadiah have the most articulate and persuasive argument here.

obadiah777: you do err. i have provided several precepts upon precepts to back it up. but see you have spiritual astigmatism coupled with the spirit of scoffing to see the reality placed in front of you. just stiff necked and rebellious for nothing smdh

obadiah777: you err not knowing scriptures Mazi Omenuko >>>> 1 corinthians 11 vs 3 But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.