₦airaland Forum

BleedTears:
LOL diversion. If it where some killos it will be understandable but tons of cocaine to worth $1.3B

Liberia Flag bearer hahaha because JP will be so dumb not to find and escape route in case it backfires just as it backfired.

Anyway that's story for another day

My friend, that news was reported by the American media, not a Nigerian media outlet.

The raid was carried out by American authorities.

If America didn't want you to know about it, you won't know not to talk of even having any link to share. Stop all the conspiracy theories and face reality.

America is not Nigeria, they protect their citizens and frown at any form of fraud carried out by anyone. There are lots of American wall street execs and wealthy men in federal prisons for fraud.

Onyeama, has zero value to the American authorities. He allegedly committed fraud in their country, that's why they need him.

Stop all the conspiracy theories and witch hunt tales.

Nawa oh

Ojady:
C'mon Mehn! Noooo!! I smell a rat!!! This oyinbo people dem no want make blackman prosper sha...
After we have showed the world that we can do it right through AirPeace, they now come up with this! I dont believe it...
Nigerian lawyers, especially of Igbo extraction in the diaspora, should rise up and defend this
A man is not guilty until proven so, at every level of courts available.

Chai...

My Igbo people make una stop this nonsense. We act like we're been hunted...no one is hunting us.

This is the DOJ, America not some propaganda crime fighters/hunters.

Onyeama has zero value to the Americans, to be considered a threat over anything.

They're simply charging him for a crime commited on their shores, just like they would charge anyone else.

jjman2322:
lol some people are difficult to please! I agree.. Anyone that reads what I wrote in this thread should know I have a lot of ties to USA and i know what im talking about..

You should never give ANYONE your address.

Your posts are intelligent, logical, well thought out and succinct. You have nothing to prove to anyone or try to convince anyone. Everyone has an opinion and should simply stick to whatever opinion is fine by them.

Anyone who has issues with your posts, can simply go to hell.

jjman2322:
its not "what you see". its what to DOJ sees. It's what the jury will see when DOJ presents those fake invoices, LCs, to them.. Thats the problem.

If you lived in USA for a while you should know by now that once the DOJ indicts someone they almost always convict. Read the report, what he did was a crime.. Whether its a crime in Nigeria or Pluto is irrelevant.. The money moved through USA banks and LYING on documents is called a crime..

Im sure when you lived in USA you enjoyed the ease of credit cards, car loans, mortgages.. Why do you think that is so? Precisely for this reason..

Here's an example of someone I know who got few years in prison.. Lets say example He had a business making lets says $100,000 selling t shirts.. he went and got fake invoices for orders totalling $1mil, then he ran to his bank and collected $500,000 loan to buy new equipment using those invoices... Its called bank fraud and the USA will always prosecute..

Its the same way tens of thousands are in prisons in USA for insurance fraud (faking car accident, etc).. Its the reason you can destroy your car, make a call to your company, and you get paid basically in a few days... Everyone trusts the system, including the banks and companies it protects, and they trust the system because the govt actively prosecutes those who try to defraud it

Succinctly put!

franchasng:
This is a public domain, I am not dragging land with them, so I cannot reveal further, just believe whatever you want.


If Dangote were to come across my posts, he alone will understand, but for you his tribal defender, he is Saint Michael.


As for Otedola, his case is widely known, I like him so I won't say much again. Enjoy your day

Boo hoo!

Wetin person no dey read for nairaland?

franchasng:
Yes I intentionally brought Otedola to make you know that all the so called Nigerian billionaires are into shady deals, including the ones from your tribe because I see Nigerians here giving it a tribal coloration as usual.

How many times will I tell you that Dangote is fortunate to come from a dominant northern Nigerian tribe that has been in total control of Nigerian government and institutions for decades since independence How then do you expect his indictment


You can go and google Dangote and Ibeto saga to read more.


You can google Dangote and Lafarge cement tuzzle.


You can google about Otedola debt and lots more.


I am tired of replying you, you won't accept the truth that Dangote is not clean, he is fortunate, so no need

@the bold

Lol...I knew that's the only "dirt" you have on him

I thought you were privy to some other documents , which Nigerians do not have access to, indicting him.

Your first evidence says saga
Your next evidence says tuzzle
Your last evidence about Otedola, says debt ...When did debt, become a criminal offense?

franchasng:
You don't know anything about Dangote's beginning days.


You only know about Dangote now that he is a billionaire. How did he get to that level


Dangote did a lot of $ round tripping fraud and tax evasion when he was still coming up. Stop looking at him now that he has grown so big, look at when and how he started those are my points of reference.

Do you know that Otedola and Dangote weren't in good terms until Goodluck Jonathan came into power


Did you know that Otedola at a time ran away from Nigeria to Ghana due to debt, when Nigerian government was all over him until Goodluck became President and gave him so waivers and brought him back and gave him lots of contracts


Do you know the cause of Dangote and Otedola secret war back then

I will stop here, take care

You've brought Otedola into the mix too...lol

Can you please point me to documents or links indicting Dangote for these things you put up?

franchasng:
Round tripping is a big fraud case, its just Dangote is lucky to come from Hausa-Fulani tribe.


Also, tax evasion which Dangote is guilty of is a big crime all over the world. I can list lots of his crime here but let's not derail the thread.


Dangote is not clean, he is just fortunate to have come from a well connected political family in the north.

Oh please!

Stop with all the beer parlor type of gist. Dangote's business has outlived governments from across party and tribal lines. He has built a business that has organically grown for over 2 decades and has HIGH impact on the economy.

Dangote is not your ordinary billionaire... His business contributes single handedly a chunk, to Nigeria's GDP. As a result, as with any developing country, he enjoys lots of government support which is usually laced around tax breaks (not tax evasion as you allege), forex (not round tripping as you allege) in return for investing billions of $ back into the Nigerian economy.

Like I stated, his business has NEVER been found wanting of breaking the law...and yes, he transfers money to America too. Till he's found wanting, we can't go bandying around unverified claims that make no sense.

franchasng:
if you aren't aware of Dangote's FOREX fraud and use of government to monopolize certain business sectors to himself and stiffle other competing businesses then you know nothing about him.



Do you know how many time Lafarge Cement at Ewekoro Ogun state have been sold due to financial crises resulting from Dangote's business a politics

But this has absolutely nothing, to do with FRAUD. What you're talking about, is simply Business.

We're talking about lying, misleading authorities, falsifying documents, illegal source of funds etc...all these are classified as fraud, which is what this thread is about and what no one can pin to Dangote, yet.

Enjoying government monopoly/patronage or getting tax breaks etc is part of business at the level Dangote is playing.

franchasng:
Aliko is the biggest of them. He will use his connection to government to secure FOREX (US $) from CBN at CBN rate, and then he will move the money out of Nigeria and use it to run businesses in other African countries and even return some back and change to get billions of Naira. They call it $ round tripping fraud, but Dangote does this for decades now and get away with it because most Nigerian government use him as front, he is a lucky chap, all his financial frauds are within Nigeria and Africa, he didn't enter US, he would have been bursted since

Sir/madam

Your posts are misleading and sound like beer parlor talks.

jjman2322:
Thanks bro for explaining what ive been saying.. Im sad as well, im an igbo guy and this hurts.. I was just trying to clear the air and explain what is going on because i spent my whole life in USA and have been a part of the system and know how it works well..

Your explanation was succinct! One of the best breakdowns in this thread.

I'm Igbo too and I feel sad reading this. It begins to make you wonder, how many truly legit business men do we have out there? I work in FinTech - IMTO, and can tell you that sending money out of Nigeria to any country in the world, as long as that money is routed through USA banks and source of funds is Nigeria, you are immediately on the radar of authorities.

IGBOSON1:
What's funny about this whole episode? Why are you laughing?

I can see from your username and your posts how you've vociferously defended Onyeama...

You need to slow your roll! It's not about anyone attacking Igbos. Thank God this is not EFCC, else some Neanderthals would have said, Buhari is hunting Igbo business men.

This is DOJ, America...They don't joke, they don't do propaganda, when they get you indicted, they take you to the cleaners...and you can take it to the bank, Onyeama is 99.9% guilty of the charges. This is simply using the DOJ's hit rate.

What we should be worried about is why did Onyeama have to go that route? Why? Does this mean a good number of Nigerian business men can't do clean deals and transactions? This news about Onyeama, ruined my morning.

I feel completely sad reading this...I don't know Onyeama personally, but this is just too sad.

franchasng:
of course I know that he did committed document fraud, but your fellow Nigerians are already screaming that he stole the money from US, that that's how he became rich.


Some thinking he used fake documents to obtain loan from US banks and used the money to start airline company.


I am only clearing the air for those that won't understand the whole investigation and what its all about.


He can please guilty and pay a fine if the money came from clean source in Nigeria which I am sure it does.


People still thinking it was Patience Goodluck money should bury that thought cos its not.


[s]It's just that these guys patronize quack bank agents who parade themselves as intl financial experts but look at the job they did for him, something I can do without a single issue or trace, sighs[/s]

What exactly are you saying? Lol

They have explained to you clearly that it is fraud, forget all the semantics... You're still arguing?

izzou:


So much inspiration from this thread

Thanks Lala

Fountainofyouth:
Some people like to be seen as woke, Op has watched too much Hollywood high school movies, this is Nigeria ma'am, come back to reality, I would so much whoop her ass ehn she would never do doggy anymore talk more of sex, and that her mouth that swallowed cum, she would wash her teeth and tongue every hour of everyday for one week till she has sores all over her mouth,

Do you know the trauma I as a mother would feel watching something like that? My own daughter? That's if i don't have high BP sef.

But man dey spread your own leg like like bedsheet for barb wire?...Gerarahere mehn!

Swear with your life, say man never lash you before!

Bloody hypocrites!

Asquare84:
[s]Try and see a pastor for prayers there is nothing prayer can't change[/s]

Rubbish!

ogawisdom:
For being a bad ambassador to her school

Dragging the name of her school to the mud

How exactly did she drag her school name to the mud? By having sex?...Everyone in Babcock uni, has sex.

The video that was put out, was not released by her, so she cannot be blamed for that. In this case, she is the victim.

So exactly how did she drag her school name to the mud? Don't students, the VC & lecturers have sex?

ogawisdom:
She deserves expulsion in my humble opinion

Why? Because she had sex or because she did something mankind hadn't done?

You hypocrite probably has all sorts of illicit sex but crucify a lady who has consensual sex but has the sex tape released to the public without her consent.

IronGalaxy:
You are asking the same question again and again. Whites amassed wealth for how many years? Black South Africans had to play catch up. And by saying we are the biggest middle class does not mean that the black Nouveau riche does not exist. I literally have to spell every word to you

You're not ashamed to say that black south Africans are playing catch up with a tiny % of whites in your own country?

Again, same convo. Who have I blamed? Black people get independence in 94 against people who have been amassing wealth since the1600s what do you expect? Even under those circumstances black South Africans have made giant strides

You have given tons of reasons why black south Africans are impoverished and it is all about blaming the whites for amassing wealth... And what giant strides have you made aside the much publicised xenophobic attacks?

Show me one piece of history you've taught me about me about my country coz [s]where I'm standing, you keep parroting the same nonsense and I'm honestly becoming bored with this[/s]

I have reminded you severally that when Nigeria got Independence, your mother was riding a white man's cock. You forgot that bit, I had to drum it into your block head that when we were long done with the whites, your father was still clearing white owned farmlands.

When has complaining ever meant burning?

Are you asking me this silly question? You should ask your black south African brothers that when has complaining equalled burning of Nigerian owned businesses? Ask them when has no jobs and simply complaining about it, equalled looting foreign owned businesses and stealing food? Ask them when has complaining equalled burning humans mob style?

IronGalaxy:
is he really pounding me? Lol.

Jace and TMK probably got bored like I am now. Arguing with illiterates can be tiring

Oh you're bored now after avoiding salient questions about your own country? Or because I thought you some history lessons?

BTW this is how you look

IronGalaxy:
Black South Africans make the biggest middle class and also many poor people are black that's because of the numbers game.

You've sang this like a song...Why are blacks convenient with been middle class and low lifers in their country, when a tiny % of whites are in the upper class and control those at the lower rung of the class chain?

[s]For someone who uses terms like "blockhead" I feel like I'm conversing with one here. When did I blame white people for anything? I said whites due to hundreds of years of amased wealth and years of apartheid put them in a favourable position compared to other SA races. FACT![/s]

You have blamed the whites for amassing wealth for years...Its the anthem of black south Africans. I have asked you how many years you need to seize wealth back, you've avoided it.

Did Nigerians coons ever stand up to colonisation? Nope ! Too docile to do that. Only King Shaka had the balls to take the English head on. Show me anyone in Africa comparable to him

You suck at history. I have taught you your own history over the course of this back and forth. I will oblige once more and remind you again, that Whites left Nigeria since 1960 and DO NOT control us any longer, economically or politically. On the other hand, South Africans were still been pummeled by the whites as at the 80s and 90s. Your father and mothers were still sucking on white d1.cks while Nigerians had long been a FREE nation. To date, these same whites are still running and controlling your economy.

Everyone unemployed in South Africa complains that includes your beloved whites

Oh the whites complain too? Why then aren't they involved in mob style looting, stealing of food and burning/killing of humans?

IronGalaxy:
Who said it was an achievement? I merely pointing out that as much as you like accentuating the poverty of my people also do mention that many aren't poverty stricken. When you mentioned that all my people were beset with poverty you conveniently forgot that we are the majority.

Good! At least we all agree that black south Africans are impoverished. Whatever excuse you have for that should be shoved up your smelly black butt.

Duh? White people had hundreds of years to amass all that wealth. Surely even a toddler knows this

Hehe...convenient excuse as usual with black south Africans. The question is how many more years, do block headed black south Africans need to seize wealth from their white masters? You run the politics, you are in the majority but still blame the whites for amassing such wealth.
Lol...you're a bingo!

I see more of the white worship in you Nigerians. Whites this , whites that, an oyinbo man seen eating Garri in oweri, A Nigerian man marry an oyinbo" you'll never see such nonsense in SA

Unfortunately my slave friend, history isn't on your side as regards this. You served your white Lords during apartheid, even when Nigeria hasn't gotten Independence, it wasn't as bad as how your fathers and mothers sucked on white d1.cks.
You guys blame other blacks for taking non existent jobs, you attack them but can't stand the white south Africans who control the wealth and are in their minority. At least you admitted that they amassed wealth. The question is, why haven't you black slaves stood up to them?

What's more barbaric? Killing your own mother for her genitals for rituals or looting a foreigner's shop? You are barbaric face it. Your people don't even know how to act in a proper social setting

Killing for rituals, is done as stand alones and sparsely. Looting shops, burning humans as done by South Africans, is done mob style...shows your identity as a violent nation.

Yes, South Africa has a better standard of living everyone not in denial knows this.

So why are black south Africans crying and groaning about poverty, non existent jobs, looting shops and stealing food?

IronGalaxy:
nice try. That same data would tell you that [b]black South Africans make the biggest middle class in South Africa [/b]why don't you mention that as well? Or it doesn't for your agenda?

Look at this one...dude Nigeria is one of the most barbaric countries in the world, you chimps still kill each other for human organs, tell me what's more barbaric than that? We see these pictures on this forum on a daily of your brothers posing with severed heads and limbs. You are also very high on unicefs list in child marriages. You are really the last one talk. Poverty, hungry people, barbarism etc no country pass yours

Black south Africans make the biggest middle class in south Africa... Like see how you spelt it out like an achievement. With majority of the population been black who did you expect to be the largest middle class? Red Indians?


Who cares who's the largest middle class there...Nigeria has a huge middle class too, but that is completely foolish to bring into this conversation as were comparing apples and apples and not apples and oranges.

Or how do you explain that white south Africans despite been the tiny minority, are the upper class and run your economy?

You know why? Black South Africans are block heads good only at worshipping their white masters.

You talk about Nigeria been barbaric, we have never argued that...lol

Difference is you lots have a more barabaric stance than we do...Xenophobia is associated with ONLY black south Africans while the other vices you named is seen in other parts of the world, including south Africa.

You claim your country is more advanced and has a better standard of living...I reminded you that it has never been broadcasted anywhere in any news, that Nigerians stormed shops en mass, looting, stealing basic food items, killing and burning other humans because of food...

But in south Africa, the whole world has seen it happen repeatedly (at least 5-6 times in the past decade)...CNN, AL JAZERA, SKY NEWS, CNBC, ONLINE media outlets have shown gorry, vile, barbaric, 15th century style looting, stealing of basic items of living

IronGalaxy:
It's the biggest economy in Africa then what? Does it translate to better roads, universities, airports, healthcare, stadia , better sanitation, etc yes? No? You get too excited about meaningless titles not the substance. Keep the title, will keep the better standard of life

Now you've drifted into semantics. Data available shows that your country is behind us in EVERYTHING. Good you weren't foolish to argue that.

Loser! Your country is still filled with impoverished black slaves reason it is one of the most unsafe and barbaric countries in the world.

News all over the world showed hungry, barabaric, impoverished and vile black south Africans breaking into stores, looting shops, stealing food and all.

IronGalaxy:
Isn't it ironic and idiotic when Nigerians of all people diss countires way better about slums, when we all know Nigeria itself is one giant slum? Is like a Nigerian insults a Brazilian about their favelas and yet Brazil is miles ahead of Nigeria.


Think before you type you end up looking like a joke

Unfortunately, Nigeria is the biggest economy in Africa my slave friend....while south Africa that is paradise is behind us.

How do you reconcile that?

TMKsouth:
The same way when oil prices crashed your GDP halved from $550billion to 250.

U guys just sell raw oil and can't even refine it. U rank badly in every global human development index.

U are a mess.

The joke is on you, as you're below us in everything, even economic indices available.

But you still scream about us been in a mess...If we're in a mess and still have a larger economy than yours, it means your country is a hell hole...don't you think so my slave friend?

Why are you avoiding telling us how many d1.cks your mother sucked during apartheid? Why? Are you shy? Are you traumatized?

Don't worry, it's no harm. We won't hurt you more

TMKsouth:
SA has 7 Grammy's already (Ladysmith Black Mambazo, Soweto Gospel Choir).

Trevor Noah also got nominated today.

Hey slave

Won't you wanna give us some history lessons about your mother's d1.ck sucking sessions during apartheid?

Please, share...we love history lessons

TMKsouth:
Should have helped yourselves - coz everyone agrees your country is a mess.

How can a country that is a mess, still have a larger economy than yours that isn't a mess?

You see how foolish and senile you are? I bet you're suffering from the after effects of sucking your white Master's d1.ck?

TMKsouth:
Yeah, remind me... What do you actually do with all your oil wealth? All of Africa is dying to know, coz we can't see it. U can't either, that's y you're scattered all over the world.

Doesn't change the data available today, that Nigeria is the biggest and largest economy in Africa. What we decide to do with our oil or not, should not be the problem of a slime head, small d1ck.ed south African slave.

Now don't digress please, mind letting us know, how many d1.cks your mother sucked during apartheid as well as how many farmlands your block headed papa cleared for the whites?

You seem to know a lot about Nigeria, just reciprocating and wanting to know same about you my slave and sub human friend

TMKsouth:
Yeah, the juices were quite nutritious.

Did u have 3 balanced meals today judging u from the POVERTY CAPITAL OF THE WORLD?

Good to hear you're doing your slavery job very well...

While Nigeria is the largest economy in Africa...I wouldn't want us to go into that as I'm more interested in how many white d1c.ks your mother sucked during apartheid and how many white owned farm yards your father cleared?

Mind divulging?

TMKsouth:

[s]Dude, Bunny Boy is now PERSONA NON GRATA in SA. Get that through your codeine filled brained.

U just going by some dumb PR statement by an organising company that now has egg on its face by inviting a controversial artist.

B.Boy. Will.NEVER.Perform.In.SouthAfrica.AGAIN[/s]

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Hello black south African slave,

Why are you hitting hard on your keyboard? What is the cause of your frustration? Did your white masters make you suck their d1.ck today?