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4. Title: Benin figure 1975.7.1
(Gallery / Category: The Oxford Collection)

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3. Title: Benin figure sold by Sothebys on 15.11.1965, from sale catalogue
(Gallery / Category: The Farnham Collection)

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Title: Benin wood comb, figure 386.
(Gallery / Category: The Farnham Collection)

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The final image shows documentation which it has been suggested was prepared for the objects after Pitt-Rivers' death in 1900. Again according to Waterfield, this label on the stand was devised by Captain George Pitt-Rivers and Dudley-Buxton circa 1929. The original documentation in the catalogue of the second collection read:

'Bt of Burrows (cont’d) , [1 of] Two well-formed heads in bronze, the foreheads decorated each with two inlaid bands and four raised cicatrices (tribal marks) over each eye Coral necklaces. The hair in conventionalized bands of ridges, the ears unusually well formed Benin The metal of this specimen is very thin, being only 1 mm in thickness [3 Drawings annotated 1/3 ‘Benin’] Added: Catalogue p. 34 fig 98 & 99'

George Pitt-Rivers and Dudley-Buxton's label reads:

Well-formed head in bronze. The forehead decorated with two inlaid bands and four raised cicatrices over each eye. Coral necklace. being a badge of rank. The metal is very thin being only 1 mm in thickness. The hair is conventional bands of ridges. The ears unusually well formed. Benin'


Source: Rethinking Pitt-Rivers | Second collection documentation

^^^^

Sorry, can't help you there.

If you do find those pics, please post them in this thread.

rabzy:
Aah ii ni ọnọ wuẹle gbi ugan si ebhohiẹ. (You don’t argue about a dream with its dreamer.)

I like this one.

SEFAGO:
^ PhysicsMHD you don craze finish with all those particle and condensed matter physics u dey study?

Anyways I meant these two:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlyle_Group

http://www.kingdomzephyr.com/team.html

Lol, I haven't studied any condensed matter physics in depth . . .

And I know what you were referring to. I don't know why, but I just felt like pointing out that the company was named after a hotel that was named after a virulent racist.

@ SEFAGO, it's weird, I honestly believe that in general, Northerners are just as intelligent as southerners, but their culture is holding them back. The question of intelligence differences due to culture is a very interesting and unresolved issue.


And what proof do you have that Carribeans outperform Africans?


I wouldn't be surprised if it were true, based on the number of academics with Carribean origins I've seen occupying prominent faculty positions, but I'm just wondering how you reached that conclusion. Any data to back it up? Remember, Africans probably school in a lot more countries than Carribeans.

Congrats to the young woman.

Reasonable compromises will be made and positions will be promised to certain zones in the future. . .it'll work itself out.

Everybody wants a piece of the pie. . .

You couldn't answer even a single question I posed and you shamelessly resorted to twisting and distorting my questions. The evasion is dumbfounding. No sane person could think the West dominated politics after the civil war. Is that why they were being imprisoned and killed for nothing? Nobody could assert that NAFDAC needed to do anything significant until recent times. Heck, they didn't even need to create it until the 90s. Nobody could claim that  Easterners were kept out of the banking sector until OBJ. Nobody could claim that only Okonjo-Iweala was responsible for freeing Nigeria from its debt. I honestly don't see what's commendable about Nollywood. Perhaps you could enlighten me there. I already answered the statement about Ernest Ndukwe, but you completely twisted my statement. And for the last time your Eastern "fathers" have always had more of a role in running this country than my own, from 1956 to this very day, so your statements about my "fathers" are absurd. Your bizarre adoration for the grandmaster of political thuggery - OBJ, one of these Western "fathers" and the only Western politician to actually govern Nigeria - while simultaneously condemning Western politicians for allegedly screwing up the country is mind-bogglingly silly.

Once again, you dodged my question.

You asserted with no evidence some claim (that this or that region dominated and destroyed Nigeria) and then asked me to respond to a question based on the premise as if it were true. If I don't accept a premise, then there's no reason to respond as if I actually do.

As usual, I expected you to deny being from the West or North like you did.

What reasonable accusation is there to deny? I've already stated that I'm not from those regions on this forum numerous times. It's only someone as ignorant and presumptuous as yourself that constantly harps "your fathers this" "your fathers that" when someone opposes his view, without even knowing anything about the person's "fathers" and where they are from. Anyways, it would make no real difference where I was from.

Before I go ahead to answer your question, let me make it clear to you that I am not showing hatred towards those regions.

This is unlikely, though. Your post history is pretty clear on your feelings with respect to those regions.

I am only stating the fact that they have failed so badly by not being able to stimulate meaningful development in Nigeria. They may not have been responsible for this if they had not dominated the political sphere of Nigeria. They cannot show any meaningful thing that they came out with after so many years of political dominance. My view can be seen as being "Realistic" and not "Tribalistic".
Now to your question. Before 1999, Nigeria could not boast of any other viable sector apart from the petroleum sector. NNPC monopolised the economy and was so important that it was heavily politicized and influenced by politicians who were mainly from the North and West.

When was the West politically dominant? When they were rigged out by Shagari in 1979? When Buhari imprisoned their leaders and placed some under house arrest while sparing northern leaders? When MKO Abiola was denied the presidency and died in prison and they sat on looking, unable to do anyhing? When Abacha was lording over them, imprisoning some of them, and declaring others (like Soyinka, or some members of NADECO) wanted men?


As for this claim that Northern and Western politicians ran the NNPC, do you have any proof?

It took the elevation of Nigerians from the hitherto marginalised Eastern part of Nigeria to spark up a surge from other sectors of the economy.
For example;
One would think that there was no CBN before Charles Soludo. Even after Charles Soludo, there was another intellectual from the North that took over, Lamido sanusi. Was he not in existence before 1999? Why did it have to take an Easterner to change the industry before intellectuals from the North could be recognised? Under an Easterner, the banking sector grew and added value to Nigeria's economy.

Who was Dr. Clement Nyong Isong? Who was Paul Agbai Ogwuma?

Were they not from the East? Or were they from the Moon?

I don't understand this CBN claim. It's as if you actually think the North and West were deliberately keeping Easterners away from the CBN or something prior to Obasanjo.

One would also think that we never had Finance ministers before Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala in 1999. Why did it have to take Ngozi Okonjo Iweala, an Easterner to revive the international rating and freedom of Nigeria's economy from enormous external and internal debt? Were there no former finance ministers with such capabilities?

Did Nigeria have enormous external and internal debt prior to 1999?

Did Ngozi Okonjo Iweala single-handedly free Nigeria from its debt? If she did, what did Mansur Mukhtar do? Please be more informed.

One would think that Nigeria was allergic to GSM technology before 1999. Even Ghanaians got the technology before us. As soon as Alex Ndukwe was put in charge of the sector, everything changed. Like they say, the rest is history now. Nigeria's telecommunication sector grew and created lots of jobs. Was there no individual capable of doing what Alex Ndukwe did before 1999?Why is it that it took Alexander Ndukwe, an Easterner to raise the telecom sector?

You're quite right that Ernest Ndukwe should be commended.

http://www.punchng.com/Articl.aspx?theartic=Art201005021442842

But reading that, I get the impression that the answer to your question lies mainly in Abacha and his corrupt military predecessors. OBJ, as a civilian president, was actually competent enough to try to get foreign investment in that area, and when that failed, to appoint the right technocrat to improve that area.

Look at an agency like NAFDAC. It was dormant before an Easterner took control of it. Why was it dormant? You mean to tell me that there were no Nigerians to make the agency to work?

What major problems did NAFDAC have to deal with until recently? I'm asking out of genuine ignorance. I was under the impression that the problems NAFDAC dealt with recently (fake drugs, for example) were not always major issues.

Also, NAFDAC only came about in 1993, and even then, wasn't it Dr. Olikoye Ransome-Kuti that presided over its creation?

Why did it have to take an Easterner, GEJ for free and fair elections to be possible. I mean, he was even ready to step down if he had lost the election.

I don't even understand this claim. Was GEJ in charge of the elections? Could he somehow not have stepped down if he lost? Does he have that kind of power? 

And Attahiru Jega gets no credit, but Maurice Iwu gets no blame? 

Why is it that it was the entertainment and Sports sectors that were dominated by Easterners before 1999 that grew vibrantly within the years that Nigeria was gradually sliding into an abyss due to retrogressive political leadership from the North and West? Now, Yoruba movies are building on Nollywood. Look at the way our sports slid because the same ethnic based issue cropped up under the leadership of the sports sector by Northerners. For example, Nigeria keeps failing because federal character was introduced in sports.

Was the East really dominating entertainment?

Take music, for example. I was under the impression that there was more of a spread, with West, East and others contributing,

As for this Nollywood thing, I was under the impression that some Westerners were pioneers in that area, rather than "building on" somebody else's foundation. I could be wrong though.

I'm not sure that Nollywood is really a bragging point, anyways. When you think of the Senegalese film industry for example, which could even enter films for competition at prestigious film festivals and get rave reviews from respectable periodicals, you realize Nigerian movies are pretty mediocre, despite all the potential and all the promise Nigeria's never ending drama and its educated populace should provide in that area.

The federal character principle in sports, if it was really adhered to, like many believe (and from my observation, they may be right) is regrettable.

The issue here is that Northern and Western region's domination of Nigeria's politics was characterized by extreme ethnic politicking. So much that appointments were based on religion and politics. They ignored professionals and fairness in the appointment of individuals into sensitive positions.

Is this really so? Do you have any real evidence of this?

This was the bane to the development of Nigeria. It took a near death experience by OBJ, under his northern cronies for him to realize that fairness was important for development to be ensured.

And this is your personal theory? Or did OBJ say or hint at anything like this?

This tribalism is enshrined in the cultures of Western and Northern Nigerians. Their Centralized traditional political orientation gives space for the extreme respect of people in authority and tribalism against groups with contrary orientation. When leaders feel supreme in their seats of power, they become corrupt. That is the story of Nigeria. The ability of an Easterner to challenge authority annoys Nigerians from other parts of Nigeria.

Another theory, but I don't see much of a connection between the cultures and the tribalism you keep complaining about. Also, challenging authority must be done in a civil manner.

What's also ironic about this claim is that the first Nigerian to condemn tribalism, back in the 1800s, was no less than Uthman dan Fodio.

Meanwhile Edward Wilmot Blyden, a scholar of Igbo descent, had mostly negative things to say about the "Akus" (Yorubas) and Samuel Ajayi Crowther, a scholar of Yoruba descent, had some negative things to say about the "Ibos" (Igbos). When I came across their statements, it kind of made me wonder why the Northerners seemed to always be more politically advanced than the southerners on issues of tribalism, to the extent that any Northerner can become the Northern leader, whether that man is an Angas, Gwari, Kanuri, etc.  

Look at the Senate presidency in 1999. Several individuals occupied that seat. At the end, Ken Nnamani. a respectable politician got the chance to occupy that seat and stayed there till the end. The Easterners were taunted for this. That is to tell you that Easterners don't support rubbish leadership.

I really don't understand this. Could you go into more detail? Who was taunting and why? And I was under the impression that most of the senate presidents had always been "Easterners."

Compare that to the leadership of Bankole, where senators go home with a quater of Nigeria's budget. No one talked. The few Easterners that dared to talk were victimized, while other kept quiet.

Could you also go into detail here? I'm really not understanding what you're saying.

I was under the impression that the man who really dared to talk about senators going home with ludicrous paychecks was Sanusi Lamido Sanusi.

It is only an Easterner that would look at things against his own ethnic group if need be, for the sake of progress. Why is that so?

You say this, but is it actually true? What evidence is there for this claim?

If you sincerely feel I am wrong by saying that it is only Easterners that can save Nigeria, please prove me wrong by telling me how the North and West can do so. As for me, the North and West have widely proved that they are incapable of saving Nigeria.

I don't really think I need to. There's no reason for me to resort to simplistic generalizations and assertions in order to defend Northern or Western competence, especially when I don't even care whether those groups really can or cannot "save Nigeria." If they are actually as incapable as you assert, it won't change anything.


[size=5pt][Note: I used the phrase "I was under the impression" a lot above, but what I mean to say by that is "it seems in reality that. . ."][/size]

Justcash:
And at the point you should answer to the main issue, you quit. Is it so difficult for you to accept that your fathers destroyed Nigeria? After fighting so much to retain the unity of Nigeria, they dominated and destroyed it. Is that not pathetic? Why couldn't they emulate their peers in fast  developing countries like China, Brazil, Malaysia etc? Can you clarify what is so spurious about my assertion to make you to dodge answering the question?

1. What are these "little strides that Nigeria has made" that are the "direct handiwork" of "Easterners"?

2. Even going by your silly geographical definitions, I would be neither a Westerner or a Northerner, so this crap about "your fathers" is just more irrationality on your part. Or did the powerless SS ever "dominate" or rule/govern Nigeria? 

Justcash:
^^^^^^^

Your explanation is a true reflection of the problem we are having in Nigeria. You are trying so hard to fake up the reality on ground.

I think that applies more to you than to me.

You said Nigeria was categorised to reflect cultural differences,

Between the north and the south. Why do you twist other people's words?

Why are Igbos still in Rivers state and Delta state that are surpposed to be your so called "South South region?".

What does that have to do with anything that I said? You should direct this question to Ekwueme and the other Igbos who came up with the idea of south south. As I said before, they are still alive. The reality is that the vast majority of the SS is not Igbo and I never said SS was a cultural zone. It's a political zone consisting mainly of minorities.

You seem to miss the fact that Lagos, Ogun etc has nothing to do with the South. They are all completely in the West.

"Fact"?

I've said it before: south is as contrasted with north.

By your reasoning, why should Anambra, Enugu, and Ebonyi be considered "south"? Using your logic, they aren't at the actual southern part of the country (since you claim the Southwestern states are not in the south).

Why should they be called South West.

Because honest people realize that they are in the south of the county (as opposed to the north) both geographically and in terms of culture, lifestyle, etc.  West merely indicates what side of the Niger river they are on.

On another hand, dividing Nigeria to reflect cultural differences indicates that Nigeria is a farce from day one. Why must regions be divided according to ethnic affiliation even when we claim to be one?

It's true that Nigeria, as a country, should never have existed. This is something we can agree on.

Well, your point of view is a complete deviation from the issue at hand. My point in this post is that Northerners and Westerners dominated Nigerian politics for many years, and have achieved nothing. They have brought about no progress. They have failed Nigeria. The little strides that Nigeria has made are the direct handwork of Easterners (As geographically categorized before the war). Easterners must be given more chance to lead and steer Nigeria to greatness, because they seem to have more capability to do so.

That's your opinion. I'm not interested in arguing for or against one man's spurious assertions. I won't engage you further because you seem highly irrational ("East-West"? "West-East"? "West-South"? easily some of the silliest stuff I've seen posted on this forum.)

West-South? 

East-West? 


West-East? 


Are you actually serious? ??

That's not even worth addressing.

Anyway, as I said before, your whole argument is wordplay. What matters are actual political alignments, not naming conventions.



And this is a map of Nigeria:

https://sb.westfordk12.us/pages/6mweb/6mss/travelpages/3/3Tommy5/images/NIGERAmap.gif


I've already answered that question in a previous thread you made:

Some of this has already been discussed, but to answer the question about the geographical terms used, the terms also denote political grouping and cultural differences, not just geography. That's why there (used to be) one large "North" that was referred to, regardless of northeast or northwest, and that was contrasted with the south in all the older writing on Nigeria. If not for this huge political and cultural divide, it's possible that geographical areas would have been referred to by the appropriate names and that that would have stuck, but I doubt that this would have had any effect on Nigeria's history, really.

And any objective observer would admit that dividing a country into north and south does not necessitate that the part designated as southern be only that part which juts out into the ocean or which is beneath an arbitrary horizontal line.

That horseman is from here:

http://www.jstor.org/stable/3338069?&Search=yes&searchText=horseman&searchText=superb&searchText=oyo&list=hide&searchUri=%2Faction%2FdoBasicSearch%3FQuery%3Da%2Bsuperb%2Boyo%2Bhorseman%26acc%3Don%26wc%3Don&prevSearch=&item=1&ttl=10&returnArticleService=showFullText



The figure is from the 1700s or 1800s.

Justcash:
Who were the god-fatherS that coined the name if I may ask?
Did the Mid-West region ever exist?

Why is there West in Mid-West, North in North Central, and no East in South South? Why south South? Why not Mid-East? or maybe East Central?

You said:

"(Note the systematic removal of anything East from the name). Chai Nigeria! LMAO! I've never seen any bigger form of deception."


You alleged that somebody removed the "East" from the name. Who?


As for your other question, the entirety of the former areas of the Eastern region that were included in "South-South" are neither Mid-East nor East central, from a purely geographical perspective.

And the "East" was not removed from the name. It could never have been included in the name to begin with for the simple reason that the former Bendel State was included in the SS from the very beginning of the conception of the "South South" idea, and Bendel was never East. That should be pretty easy to see.

ekt_bear:
I don't think that necessarily has to be the case going forward. There were historical reasons for urbanization in Yorubaland. And it doesn't even hold in all of Yorubaland. . . the Yoruba hinterland areas (like Ekiti State) aren't very urban.


Anyway, with good transportation networks, I don't see why the previous patterns of migration must go forward.

Okay, but I don't see how Yorubas really "need" the space or the freedom of movement. Are they currently constrained in the land they have?

Err, tons. Farming is just one of them, like I said.

I assumed you meant outside investment into the country, my mistake.

Buy it? Or lease it?

What's the population of Yorubaland compared to Niger state? 

Can any Yoruba man or woman just be allowed to buy up farmland in Niger state? What will the actual Nigerlanders do?

Is the free trade and relatively open border between the US and Canada colonization?   Is the EU France and Germany colonizing the rest of Europe?

I don't understand the comparison. These are independent, sovereign countries. A different thing from what you proposed. There will never be a situation where Germans can contemplate using the land of any other EU country as Lebensraum for their future descendants. They can immigrate, but that's about it.

I'm not trying to steal away Nupe land, like the Igbos did to the Ijaw. I think that there could be a mutually beneficial relationship here.

The Igbos didn't try to steal Ijaw land. That wasn't what I was saying.

It would only take one Nupe political sellout to side with the national party - dominated by Yorubas of course - and there would be no stopping the gradual Yoruba takeover of that area when the influx starts.

Furthermore, the advantages for Niger State in this scenario are substantial. . .  after all, Yorubaland is probably 2X or 3X as rich (per capita) as Nupeland is right now. Not to mention access to the sea, investment opportunities, etc.

Whose riches?

The Yoruba people in Yorubaland are 2X or 3X as rich, but what you've implied is federal (government) support for the Nupes. I guess you would trade using Yoruba resources to develop their area, in which case they would just be a dependency. You would pay for the costs of developing the colony (but never to the level of Yorubaland, probably) and reap the material benefits of the land.

Anyway, even if you view this still as colonization. . . which group would one prefer to be colonized by? The poor, landlocked Hausa? Or your wealthier neighbors to the south, who actually stand a decent chance of building a pretty decent country?

Make no mistake about it, the Nupes could not be colonized by the Hausa or Fulani. They aren't like those people in Plateau state. They have some self-respect.

In addition, the Hausas do not really have the economic means to colonize them.

Justcash:
Ekwueme is like Orji Uzor Kalu.

He too is a puppet to the West and the North. He holds no responsibility for the East in anyway.

This is why he was heavily voted against for OBJ, because it is preferable to have a Westerner than to have an Easterner that actually does not have Eastern attitude and culture at heart.

And this is why OBJ was voted for in the East over Ekwueme? Everybody knew this?

Wasn't it just rigged, anyways?

He was the vice president once, what did he achieve? He danced to the tune of his Northern and Western bosses, while building big hotels in the East. Ofcourse, Ekwueme would do anything to impress his godfathers.

He was used to carry out alot of stoopid  actions, including the proposition of the Zoning arrangement.

Used by who?

Political phantoms?

Perhaps you could give some details.

Having said much, there is nothing like the South South.

Of course not, but you're quibbling over terminology. It could easily be called the "Southern Minority Political Zone" but that doesn't flow off the tongue well and doesn't fit into the preexisting scheme in which political zones are defined according to convenient "ethno-geographical" areas (Southwest, Southeast, etc.)

This statement does not in anyway amount to me trying to claim that the SS belongs to the South East. There is only Northern, Western and Eastern regions in Nigeria. Mid-WEST is in the western Region, NORTH-Central is in the Northern region and the South South is in the Eastern region (Note the systematic removal of anything East from the name). Chai Nigeria! LMAO! I've never seen any bigger form of deception.

And these phantom political godfathers also coined the term?  


Well, believe what you want. It won't change reality. Your whole argument is politically insignificant wordplay. If the South South was called Outer East, or Peripheral East, or Border East, it would have no effect on anything regarding their position relative to the other zones or their interaction with those zones, just as the labeling of certain areas as the "Midwest" -  a region that no longer exists - does nothing to bring the inhabitants of Delta or Edo state into some sort of political rapport with the South West.

EzeUche_:
PhysicsMHD you are needed in this thread.

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-660233.0.html#bot

Why?

ekt_bear:
Freedom of movement and less constraints on investment I think are useful. Even in the short term. . . acquiring big swathes of farmland is sort of hard to do at least in my state within the SW. But as big and unpopulated as Niger State is, it would be very easy. And in the long term, just as it happened in the US, some of that farmland might end up as population centers (especially if road/transportation networks improve.)

1. The pattern of settlement among Yorubas in the post-Oyo era is highly urbanized. In what way is their movement less "free" in an only Yoruba country when they're going to be concentrated around specific areas, rather than spread out? I don't really get this point.
2. What investment advantages does having more land offer?
3. How could Yorubas acquire big swathes of farmland in another group's land?
4. I thought you said "I'm not trying to colonize Niger State" in your discussion with Katsumoto. But what you're describing here, isn't it basically just that?

I think that there are substantial advantages for both sides.
Well, towns/cities can be founded without violating autonomy, right? If some guy decides to build a housing estate on some farmland he bought in Niger State, and eventually this turns into a town/city, does this violate autonomy?

The main concern is avoiding a situation like the old Port Harcourt, where an educationally and economically superior group moves in with wealth, goals, ambition, and technical skill from the hinterland, and without even planning to, reduces formerly sovereign groups to tenants on their own land, with their actions not curtailed by the government. I don't think you have factored in the differences between Nupes and Yorubas in your scenario.

ekt_bear:
^-- And what if said "stranger" offers a true federation, with local autonomy?

That way, nobody is ruling anyone else?

That seems preferable (at least to me) to what would likely be being ruled by an entirely different ethnic group (Hausa-Fulani).

I wish there were some Nupe posters here so I could get a sense of how they think. But I wonder about this assumption that your typical Nupe man views the Hausa-Fulani as his "brother."

How would a true federation with local autonomy offer any advantage to the Yorubas such that they would make the proposal in the first place?


From the way you were talking about using their land in the future, I think you might have a different conception of autonomy than the standard meaning of the word.

^^^^


The South-South thing has been answered already. Ask Alex Ekwueme. He's still alive.

^^^^


They'll choose the North. It's not about rationality. It's about whether they would consent to taking orders from their brother(s), or from a stranger.

@ ekt bear,


Nupes are 100% Northerners. Gwari too.

Kobojunkie:
hm . . . so if a government spokesperson says that A is reason for Z --- we should instead create B just like that confirm B to be the reason. OK!

No, you should take a quick glance at the states the new universities are located in and reach a reasonable conclusion. Claiming that this was really only about upping capacity is not really tenable.

Re-Read. The schools have capacity of 3000-10000, BUT ARE NOT operating at that at all. My alma mater for instance has a capacity, I believe of 5000 but only had average 1500 enrolled. Get it now? My high school could hold about 100 classes per grade but becaus of situation with the school, only about 100 students in the whole school . . hope this helps.

You should write more clearly.

'many other already existing and established schools, many of which are working BELOW capacity( 1000 -10000 in many cases)"

means exactly what I interpreted it to mean.

And how do you know your alma mater really had a capacity of 5000?

Kobojunkie:
I am sorry, WHAAAARRRRTTTT

The reasons given for the schools was to counter capacity issues. The same government could have more easily invested the same money into improving many other already existing and established schools, many of which are working BELOW capacity( 1000 -10000 in many cases), but it chose to argue that we needed more schools to help solve the issue. Lets assume we upped capacity for each of the 9 schools to about 1000 each, how many more schools do you think we need to deal with the About 0.40  million slots we need each year?

Really? Even if a government spokesperson did specifically say this, I'm surprised you just took it at face value.

You don't think they could have just built universities in areas/states that already had them and still tackled the capacity issues?

It was about spreading access to education. That was obvious.

And how is 3000-10,000 below capacity?

It wasn't a waste of money. You can't limit universities to only being located in certain states and sub-regions, the way things were previously. I think they should have said 1000 each, though. 500 seems a little light.

Sarahluv:
Miss World had no agenda with Northern Nigeria. No State in the North was to host the contestants.
Anyhow, you have made my point - If any southerner anywhere expresses his view concerning an issue some Northerners are sensitive about, then all southerners must be hacked down wherever they are found for not minding their business. If America declares "a bin Laden" wanted, then all southerners must be hacked down wherever they are found for not minding their business. If a Danish man draws a cartoon, then all southerners must be hacked down wherever they are found for not minding their business. That is the thinking of the average fanatic, that is the core of the lust for blood. Still wonder why some folks read the signs and quickly found somewhere to hide themselves when they heard Bin Laden had been killed?

Who is this Ethiopian woman? (the woman in your sig)

www.nairaland.com/attachments/433905_eth_jpg3dc3d69cfb119fb45102abbe0aa8f5ff


Why is she your idol?