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Good news. Kudos to Commodore Osinowo. It's nice to hear something positive about someone in the Nigerian military for a change. |
[quote author=tpia@ link=topic=657276.msg8237569#msg8237569 date=1304222250]ethnicity is much more than wearing clothes.[/quote]Indeed. |
Eko Ile:That wasn't what I was saying. Ambrose Folorunsho Alli was born in Ondo, but was Esan. Dele Giwa was Etsako, regardless of where he was born. What's place of birth got to do with your life existence? The man called himself a Yoruba man all his life.Did he? The man lived his life as a Yoruba manI don't understand this. What does this mean? [quote author=ekt_bear link=topic=657276.msg8237525#msg8237525 date=1304220515]@PhysicsMHD: For me, Yoruba isn't a race, like most people's conception of white, black, asian. It is an ethnic group. . . a group of people who share a culture. Sort of like how American identity isn't really racial/tribal/etc, but more shared culture and values. People are free to enter and leave ethnic/cultural groups, in my opinion. You don't have to be from one of those sub-groups to be Yoruba. Certainly, at least a few of these Saro returnees didn't know much about those sub-groups.[/quote]Well, you're entitled to your definition, but I'm pretty sure most of the rest of the world view Yoruba as an ethnic group. As for the cultural claiming, I might be willing to concede that Dele Giwa was Yoruba if a picture was produced of him wearing an agbada and abeti aja hat but until I see evidence of his cultural Yorubaness, it just seems like empty claiming to me. |
[quote author=ekt_bear link=topic=300410.msg8237475#msg8237475 date=1304219081]^-- The pictures of the camels that this same tourist took look fine though: http://www.caboose.org.uk/b/archives/2005/09/12/revisiting-sokoto/ This from their website:http://www.sokotostate.gov.ng/investement.html I don't think those cow pictures are likely to be representative. Otherwise, hard to make sense of that and being #2 in livestock production.[/quote]Yeah, but camels don't really get emaciated. They store fat in that hump and then leech off it when they are out of food and water. They are also just really tough animals to begin with so they survive well with very little. For a camel to become emaciated would require extremely unusual circumstances. Also, I was under the impression that Sokoto state did not have much real vegetation. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sokoto_State They can't even grow crops. So is that dry brown grass found in the savanna area what their cows eat? And if that stuff is acceptable for cows, how much of it is there in Sokoto? You're probably right that that isn't a representative picture because I googled around and found this: https://farm3.static.flickr.com/2541/4277948963_b006753b96.jpg http://www.flickr.com/photos/73542590@N00/4277948963/ "Sokoto cow Fulani herdsmen have a deep and almost mystical relationship with their cows. Each cow has a name and responds to it. Cows are named after their mothers. It is taboo for herdsmen to kill their own cows. I spent a while watching this cow and his herder. They appeared to be communicating in a subtle way, " But it doesn't resolve the question, as this picture only reinforces the idea that Sokoto is a barren area. |
[quote author=ekt_bear link=topic=657276.msg8237450#msg8237450 date=1304218014]Hmm How do you define "Yoruba", fstranger? And you, PhysicsMHD? Similarly, how do you define "American"?[/quote]There are Yoruba sub-groups, right? The Oyos, the Ekiti, the Ijebu, the Ifes, etc. If one falls into one of those groups, then one is Yoruba. If not, then one is not Yoruba. |
If your area doesn't have the vegetation to support cattle, why keep them?! Those cows are starved. |
[quote author=EzeUche__ link=topic=300410.msg8234915#msg8234915 date=1304177928]Something doesn't sound right about Sokoto. https://www.caboose.org.uk/media/Nigeria/Sokoto/Sep05/CowsAtMarket_w.jpg Cattle is worth that much?[/quote] ![]() WTF is wrong with those cows? Is that picture really from Sokoto??!! What are they doing to those poor animals? They're completely fu[i]c[/i]ked up looking. Look at their bodies! Are they feeding them dirt? This is my first time seeing so much bone and rib through the skin of any animal. I was eating and almost threw up when I saw this crap on my screen. |
smh Why all this claiming? What value does it add to you or your group? The man was Etsako. You think he spoke only Yoruba and not Etsako? |
zstranger:Nah. I don't get it. |
zstranger:He associated with his people (Etsako) as well: http://www.dawodu.com/momoh4.htm |
^^^^ 1. Dele Giwa is (was) Etsako. 2. Don't you get tired of spewing the same tripe over and over again? |
Horrible. |
theangel:[quote author=Orton1_0 link=topic=655500.msg8231750#msg8231750 date=1304122712]@OP . . . Why you dey stress yaself over someone else's headache? abi na You push am? abeg leave am make the Aboki man chop him head commot. of his type!!. After Spending 4-good years in the university, the punny He got there wasn't enough for him, His own service to the nation is to abuse. spoil and impregnate a little child. And his silly Mother couldn't hand him over to the Police? . . .I bet he would get married and have kids of his own one day? "little Angel" too may experience the same thing. SMH[/quote]Basically. |
sbeezy8:I have to agree. |
^^^^^ really? ![]() |
Rossikk:They're better than shacks, though. Most people would probably still opt for regular housing, but for poorer people, this would be a huge step up from the shanty houses and shacks you see in every Nigerian city and by the roadside. |
lol People are fighting stereotypes just for the sake of fighting a stereotype, even when the stereotype is positive. I guess that might be a good thing. Generalizations should usually be avoided. |
If Obama's absent father had been a Greek national or an Irishman (ethnically and in terms of citizenship), but not an American, I doubt all this birther crap would have come about. |
F[i]u[/i]ck Donald Trump. . . |
Interesting thread. |
^^^ true. |
The NNPC, according to the U.S. strategic consultancy Stratfor, "is widely regarded as a corrupt and ineffective organization that enables a broad patronage network" that's closely linked to the country's volatile politics "with decisive power vested in the president. |
Hmmm. . . |
johnie: ![]() what a clown |
Kc3000:Nigeria sent them aid? ![]() Or do you mean America? |
I don't get the point of twitter. Why tweet? |
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but until I see evidence of his cultural Yorubaness, it just seems like empty claiming to me.

