₦airaland Forum

Done. Check the culture section.

Beaf: Every single ND group from Rivers to Delta, met the Ijaw people and were given land to settle on. The Ijaws are one of Nigeria's few autochthonous ethnic groups (if not the only one), nobody knows how long they have been in the ND (I'm sure we have discussed this before).

What was the land given and which groups have traditions of being given land by the Ijaws?

Uh, no.


http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/oct/05/mahmoud-ahmadinejad-jewish-family



"Ahmadinejad has no Jewish roots

Rumours that Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's family converted to Islam from Judaism are false. In fact, they are proud Shias

Meir Javedanfar
guardian.co.uk, Monday 5 October 2009 11.14 BST"

ChinenyeN:
This is actually the first I'm hearing of Igbo hating Bini

The OP is making stuff up because some girl is finding reasons not to go out with him or give him any attention. If a woman doesn't like you, she doesn't like you, end of story. All these stories about her family forbidding this or that are just a nicer way to say she's not really interested. If she was into him, she wouldn't even mention it.

E-Engineer:
every heinous crime in nigeria is at a maximum in benin
talk of  drug and child trafficking, yahoo yahoo, unnecessary wickedness towards your brothers, witchcraft

Are you serious?

Child trafficking? So the "baby factories" are centered in Benin now?
419 is centered in Benin now?
Drug trafficking is centered in Benin now?


Smh.

And witchcraft? lol @ that

wtf is "witchcraft"? Some of you people talk like you live in the 18th century. If people aren't adherents of Christianity or Islam, suddenly whatever they practice becomes witchcraft.

^^^^^

Neither. There is other information about him online. Look around a bit.

Yeah that guy (Dr. Igwemezie) seems to be the real deal as far as rail safety experts go. No reason he shouldn't be involved with this in some way.

I'm completely confused by Sophie Gemal's outfit.

I don't think they wear anything like that as a traditional outfit in any part of Nigeria.

Whoever her fashion advisers were probably just convinced her that the judges would fawn over whatever looked most exotic (which is probably true), not what looked most elegant. But they definitely overdid it with that ridiculous headdress that looks like a tree is growing out of her brain.

Beaf, when you make a claim that a group was "given land to settle on" shouldn't there be confirmation of that tradition from both sides (the Ijaws and that group)? How much supporting cultural or historical evidence is there for that tradition?

AjanleKoko:
That's the chap building the railway in Europe?

No. The guy who runs the company that got a $500 million contract to build rail networks in Iraq.

Who's the Nigerian building the railway in Europe?

They should get Dr. Jude Igwemezie involved in some way or another with their plan, possibly on the safety aspects. He tried to approach an earlier administration about a rail project, but the government didn't give him any attention.

kpogede77:
@ PhysicsQD
Ek clark nominated Orubebe to become minister, the whole of Urhobo under UPU nominated three candidate for GEJ to appoint but Ek Clark insisted that he must be the one to nominate a minister for Urhobo or Urhobo will have no minister. Urhobos rejected his stooge called Gbagi who is more loyal to Ek clark than the entire Urhobo nation. Ek clark boasted that Urhobo will not have minister and GEJ complied with it.

Urhobos are by far more than Ijaw in terms of population. Either Urhobo or Edo should be the 4th largest ethnic group in Nigeria. Urhobo is an edoid group.
Pure Ijaw of Bayelsa+Ijoid groups in river state are still < Urhobo+Urhoboid group(Isoko)
Bayelsa has eight unpopulated local government while Urhobo and Isoko has 10 heavily populated LG.
The population of Uwie alone is more than 3 Bayelsa LG put together. We still have nine LG left while Bayelsa has 5 left out of its 8LG. The total population of Ijaw in delta state is less than the population of Ugheli North LG. Sapele and Udu LG will compensate for the remaining 5 LG in Bayelsa. Urhobos still have six more heavily populated LG that is more than all the Ijawid groups put together or are they saying Ijaws in rivers and other Ijawid groups are more than the Ijaws in Bayelsa? There are still Urhobo communities in Bayelsa.
In the last election, total registered voters in Bayelsa <500,000 whille Urhobo recorded 867000 out of which over 800,000 voted for GEJ while the total vote GEJ got from Bayelsa is 433,000.
Now tell me why Ijaw should get oil minister and Urhobo =0
Tell me why Ijaw got Niger delta minister and Urhobo=0
Tell me why Ijaw got special adviser on amnesty and Urhobo=0
Tell me why Ijaw got ministry of foreign affairs and Urhobo=0
Let us assume Itsekiri was not given minister because Itsekiri has the governorship but special adviser nko.
In the same vein Ijaw should not have minister because the president is Ijaw , so Urhobo should get ministerial appointment first.
You can see that there is problem

Interesting. Didn't know Edwin Clark was that dominant in the ND. Looks like he got his way. I'm not sure that's proof of an Ijaw plot to marginalize Urhobos though. Sounds more like personal politics.

Also, I disagree with the claim that there are more Urhobo + Isoko than Ijoid groups. I think you're considering the non "pure" Ijaws as something else other than Ijaw. I've read where someone else put forward that theory before, and I don't believe it. Anyway, the president is not a "pure" Ijaw, but you are counting him as Ijaw to make an argument for ministerial appointments for Urhobo, but not counting non "pure" Ijaws for population counts, so I don't think you're being consistent there.

And how many Urhobos are in Bayelsa and where? How long have they been there?

Deep freezer:
They can go smash their head against the wall. The woman is the acting VC. Aint nuffin they can do about it.
With comment I've read here Nigeria can Never be one.

No. She wasn't kept at her position. She was removed as acting VC and replaced because the way she was made acting VC was deemed incorrect.

This thread is quite old, but I should say that many of the posters in this thread are too intellectually lazy to even study the background of the situation, so nobody should take their armchair analyses too seriously.

Maybe it is Ijaw land. They seem to be the most assertive group out of the ND.


I was just asking how the Ijaws stopped the Urhobos from producing a minister. I don't see how much sense that claim makes, but maybe someone can explain it to me.

The story sounds like a fabrication. No details about the contracts and no proof. Not even one detail in the story except for the name of the brother and even that ("Jon Jon") sounds made up. People should just move on already.

kpogede77:
Ijaw is the reason why Urhobo have no minister in the federal cabinet.

??

What does that mean? Is it necessary for every ethnicity to have a minister in the federal cabinet?

Anyway, Bright Okogu (Urhobo) is part of GEJ's economic team.



However, if much of the oil money driving Delta state's development is indeed from Itsekiri land and they are still having these ethnic conflicts with Ijaws, then maybe they should be in a separate state from the Ijaws. It would stop all these clashes and talk of "conquered territory" in 2011.