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freecocoa:
Pickabeau.

From what I read on the lawsuit, the method of testing was indeed arbitrary back then, how will one know for sure. that the women failed, if there really was no transparent method of testing?

I see now that has changed though, however, if firefighting is more about physical strength(i don't know much about it)then by all means, the tests should be largely based on that and more men will definitely excel above women in it, but if it's not more of physical strength, then the system of testing is biased.

You know, many people don't understand feminism, they think it's about wanting to be a man but it's not, it's just about giving women the chances a man has, if the woman is up to it, then let her do it,nothing like "no, it's not a woman's job" it's just that simple.

Ok

I like how you raised your hands about not knowing much about firefighting training

The physical test are important

Let me send u some links...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xds5O4p2iek


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKKY7jU0eEA

freecocoa:
Thank you pickabeau for the links, I'll check them out.

Let me know what you think

Umuchoke:
You don't have to go there to know. The media is there to tell us. Some even get married and have kids before informing their fams.

Go to Europe then

MrsChima:
And i am feigning like a bleeding female bish.

Smh

freecocoa:
INo, can you provide me with a link, please?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/06/chicago-women-firefighter_n_3225153.html

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2011-08-17/news/ct-met-female-firefighter-test-20110817_1_chicago-firefighters-physical-abilities-test-firefighter-exams

MrsChima:
You mentioned what they were testing?

I guess you are feigning ignorance of what has been discussed
The test comprises a written n a physical
The written was passed by the lady
The physical test is as follows..

The grueling test requires potential recruits to climb six flights of stairs in full gear and drag dummies through tunnels with little visibility, among other tasks, and it’s to be completed in under 18 minutes, according to the Post.

MrsChima:
What is the fire department basing physical test on? Lifting the fire truck? Carrying 5 tires on the head?

It was mentioned up ahead
Read it

LordReed:
As I had to point out I do not support the lowering of physical standards. They are in place for a reason. That is a bad decision on the part of the Fire Department.

OK

freecocoa:
I think that's really crazy and unproffesional of whoever made it okay for her to graduate without meeting requirements.
I think she should retake the exercise if that's on the list or should fail out, if that's the policy.
I'm all about by the books.

OK
Are u aware of the lawsuits being faced by the fire authority due to the fact so far that women can't pass the test

There is a reason there is a time limit and weight training attached to this task

This is not about segregating the task

A life has to be saved on a stretcher, moving through dust and darkness, using a Self Contain Breathing Apparatus which is heavy

How can the people of the city be sure of the proficiency of their fire fighters

LordReed:
There is nothing to explain here. Do men and women compete in the same athletic events at the same time? Lower PHYSICAL standards for job is not the kind of in between measures that are needed when it is clear that men surpass women physically. Not all men can even pass the physical tests so this case is moot. What I think is that for fields where woman can compete but are unfairly discriminated against either there is a quota or there simply is no discrimination (we all know that is the real task).

freecocoa

What do u think about the Rebecca Wax story

metalgear:
Most people have this "feel among" attitude and it affects their daily lives. because one watches cartoons doesn't mean one is childish. U can watch your games of thrones for all I care. My daughter and I watch Pocoyo and Masha and the bear together, and she enjoys cuddling in daddy's lap and laughing. It is a bonding thing for us. Besides with everything about sex and violence on the airways these days, especially here in the US, i feel its much safer for my little kids.

This is a big issue

lol

edi287:
Loool na them know. No serious team with title aspirations will have a frontline consisting of Giroud, Welbeck and Walcott.
Its disgraceful.

edi287:
We still need a striker and a dm. This squad as it is will not smell second place.

arsene hater

dmcdad:
Na today you know? Abi you be learner? Tell me what is special about them. Make we see truth talk am joor.

ok.. lets just stick to our opinions..

dmcdad:
I think he is right. There is nothing special about MSN.

Huh?

Lol


The most potent forwards are what you just dismissed like that....

Austeenx

miriamgroove:
To give an insight of what's happening ..



OR ARE U A CHILD MOLESTER?

Are u capable of coherent thought..

U put up a picture... no pointers.. no nothing... how do u intend to stimulate any form of debate

freecocoa:
Dude, so long as there's life, there'd be good and bad people, I wish more than you, that we all be good cos I believe the world would be better that way, therefore there are going to be traffickers, thieves, murderers etc

Now, knowing this, it is in your place to choose to be good or bad.

The trafficker chose to be bad.

The girls in this story decides, "this suffering is too much I can't take it no more, let me become a call girl in dubai"= Bad. Bad, because the act is illegal in dubai.(I'm indifferent about a call girl, my morals are personal).

Now do I see the ones who are forced against their will into prostitution as victims? Yes I do, but I refuse to agree that an adult who went to a trafficker by herself, or was convinced with smooth talk to join prostitution voluntarily, is a victim.

Ignorance is not an excuse, every adult has a sense of right and wrong.

ok..no problem

freecocoa:
Excuse me pick, how is he in a position of authority over them, if they walked up to her?

Forget whatever happened next, I do agree she is mean for the terms of breaking an oath or not paying up.

They fell victim to human trafficking not to the trafficker.

How can you say they fell victim to trafficking when there must be a trafficker to facilitate trafficking?

This is a targeted thing

certain factors are used: poor, ignorant, superstitious, no recourse to escape, no travel documents


Im still surprised u choose not to see

freecocoa:
Because the two are in a position of authority over them.

Exactly.. ma;am

This love-vendor is in the same position over these girls using their relative ignorance and poverty to get them
She decides a fee they owe her which they must work using their bodies

I am surprised you don't see them a victims of a trafficking ring but willing participants..

Modified: good u saw n smiled

freecocoa:
How does this relate to my post?

If you answer it.. you may see the connection

freecocoa:
I've come to realise that many Nigerians just sway to the side of the person who has lesser money in a case involving two parties and I really wonder why that is, there's this mentality of the poor, is always the victim, that's just really wrong and shallow, no application of logic whatsoever.

Learn to look past sentiments and be reasonable, please.

Showing empathy doesn't require you to lose your valid reasoning abilities.

in that case why is it called sexual harassment when a boss dates the subordinate or a lecturer the student?

Why do u claim women are oppressed and that the patriarchy has all the privilege and women have none?

so whats the point of this post?

Spy360:
Great thinking, I like that.

The fact that we see differently on Arsene does not mean one view is better than the other
Arsene is not Arsenal

Until that fact is understood, all the acrimony will still continue

Spy360:
@Pickabeau, @sod09, now let me ask you. How do you feel when you watch Arsenal? Do you get excited? Do you celebrate when they score-win? #JustBeingCurious

Don't see the relevance of this question but I will humour you

Yes to all your questions ..

ON the closing gap.. I will be more circumspect to make that judgement call
However what makes me happy is the mental block which has been removed

Remember the win over City in the shield was the platform for the 3 nil win later in the year
First win at Eastlands since 2008 or so..

Why r u wailing... How can u say they are better as a team

Spy360:
An Honest Assessment

As a club we are bigger than Chelsea, but as a team they are still better.

This is as a result of their mind blowing spendings over the years while we have taken the path of building gradually.

That patience has really paid off for those who can see as our boys have matured over the years- Gibbs, Ox, Theo, Ramsey, Wilshere, Coquelin, Bellerin; together with shrewd additions such as Koschieny, Per, Monreal, Cazorla, Welbeck, and Giroud; with some spicy Ozil and Sanchez. Arsenal as many would not realise has one of the least expensive squad in the EPL, and that, thanks to Wenger.

Our recent victory speaks volumes; knowing that the difference between the side last season was a Cech, the likes of Jose, Manuel and Louis would realise that a huge gap has been broken, and that these guys are now ready to be champions.

Money Can Buy You Trophies But It Can't Buy You Class.

And when the cocks come to roost, it's the class that matters more.

According to some scientists, there is no difference between a child of two parents and one raised by a single parent

Cinnamon Challenge

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edoyad:
Na this season we go clear una doubt. Alexis Sanchez wants to greet his former manager. My only regret is that UEFA might not put us in the same group.

Don't forget theoretically Arsenal can be in the same group as Real, Athletico Madrid as seeding has stopped

The movement is getting stronger
Its not about female education but about freedom to phock around and walk about nudely

YAY

Hundreds of Canadian woman joined a topless protest march after three sisters were allegedly stopped by police for cycling without shirts.

Saturday's "Bare with us" march took place in Waterloo, Ontario. The women say that police told them to cover up whilst cycling in the neighbouring town of Kitchener last month.

They have filed a formal complaint with the police.

It is legal for women to be topless in Ontario after a court ruling in 1996.

Protestors held signs that included the slogans "They are boobs not bombs, chill out" and "Nudity isn't sexual."

The three sisters, Tameera, Nadia and Alysha Mohamed, say that they took their shirts off because it was a hot summer day.

However, they allege that a police officer approached them and told them to cover up. But when they challenged this, the officer said he was stopping them for bike safety reasons.

One of the sisters is an award nominated Canadian singer under her stage name Alysha Brilla.

"I had no idea how polarizing the issue would be. I thought people wouldn't be so disturbed by the female breast," she told CBC news.

"We just want to advocate and let people know that they do have this right," the singer added.

Ontario passed legislation confirming the right of women to go topless in 1996, after the Ontario Court of Appeal overturned a woman's conviction for removing her shirt.

Gwen Jacobs had been fined in 1991, but on appeal the court found that there was "nothing degrading or dehumanising" about her going topless in public

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-33750417?post_id=963116777062103_1005640919476355

#FreeTheNip-ple

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Tom Cruise Is aging gracefully

tayoccu:
funny thing is, I only asked after you, but here you are flying @ moi, when all you had to say was I dey here.

I dey here...

Give the baby up for adoption

You are all clueless for allowing that girl marry