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coogar:
the guy pretended he was sleeping. he had his headphones on so they thought he wasn't listening. he attached a camera to his crotch and bingo......the perverted nature of women was exposed.

the one on the right even said she's tempted to poke his dïck. "shall i poke it? i just wanna poke it" i am sure if there were no other passengers on the train, she would have touched his bulge.

Hahaha.....

What do you have to say....
cococandy

coogar:
watch this video & see the kinda conversation these "innocent" women were having concerning a man's bulge on a train. are these women not perverts?

htp://youtu.be/2-YANwdmYwA

when u watch these women go off the rails on ignoble causes - free the nips, write consent before sex etc youknow they are just a bunch of jokers

so who is the real feminist

TV01:
Nothing to see here - if it happens, men will write a policy for tit-shaming and women will gladly police and enforce it !

TV

^{...some of the "displayables" in that video were downright scary - if I saw those coming towards me I'd high-tail it in the opposite direction .}

i feel u ...

UjSizzle:
Yup still watching.

Yup I can see that (unlike GOT that keeps subjecting women to violence )

And methinks Mercy will become a handful for the Countess soon enough.

U r right in a way but do you agree that women of all ages with ambitions have always used the system to get what they want


What is your opinion on divorce settlement in these times of equality

This has roots in times when women did not work and needed to be provided for somewhat after divorce


GOT is just a kolo man's fantasy

Boõbs, gore and sex

coogar:
this isn't a gender thing.
both genders are guilty of staring, ogling, making cat calls, etc. self-discipline, self control etc aren't a gender thing. women could be as perverted as men in public too. predatory pervs would always react to wherever they find sëxually appealing & it cuts across gender.

You r right
Sometimes you wonder if these people r using weird ideologies to play out innate fantasies

cococandy:
This is the height of it
This is an experiment worth carrying out.

What I do sometimes is when I'm walking behind a lady, I slow down and mentally note the number of guys who turn and ogle at her as she passes and I always find it this funny too.

Maybe I should try to note how many ladies ogle at a nice looking guy too:

So yea,no one can really control who stares at them.

So why do feminists want to make ogling a crime then compound it by walking bra less

cococandy:
I've not seen the video you talk about.

I do think cat-calls are disrespectful.
And yes modestly dressed women get cat-calls too. It's something I got used to expecting whenever passing any area densely populated by males. Some guys don't even know it is disrespectful. They just do it because they've learned to.

I don't know how the argument to make them unlawful as part of sexual harassment would sound,but I agree that someone should do something about it.

While in school, I'd be coming back from school and get the random guy form nowhere giving me the . "Psst! Fine girl! I'm calling you. Abi you no dey hear?"

And stuff like that.

The first reaction would be to tense and hope the person walking behind you doesn't walk to fast and leave you alone on a lonely road with some guy that thinks it's ok to verbally assault you sexually.

The catcalls are bad and could emote unease

I actually meant ogle...though ogles descend into catcalls over time

Check out this video


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltVzfJAaNBA


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/video/news/video-1159128/Hillarious-hidden-camera-reveals-cheeky-glances.html

UjSizzle:
O2

Are u still watching

Do.you.notice the themes around female emancipation

Witches being the ones who felt they were more than ordinary women

cococandy:
Well I think it's hardly going to be possible now because the matter of nudity is no longer just a social matter. It has become religious too. Plus the issue of personal principles.
The most I think they could achieve is freedom to be bare without being arrested for public nudity.
As for ogling,you can't control who looks at you. That's just silly.

And the battle for media uncensoring will be long a-waging. Who's sensibilities will be insulted? Who's will be respected? It is never going to be unanimous. Media companies love their money. They are not ready to lose subscribers because they now show stuff that puts some folks off. (Except it brings more subscribers than those who unsubscribe out of disgust)

Let's see where it goes.

If women want to exhibit their wares for people to see....there are avenues to do this

Playboy et al will do this
Strip clubs are available

Why must they bring this to the mainstream

I like the point you raise on ogling..anf the fact that it is out of your
However have you not heard of the lady who said catcalls she got when walking on a street evidence sexism..

It's somewhere on youtube

Have u seen d vid

cococandy:
ok make that 'debate'

But modern or not, it hasn't always been sexual for all cultures all over the world.
Things just changed. ( as they are wont to)

These campaigners want hope to change it again I guess.

Good we are getting somewhere

I never disagreed with your assertion however I believe such cultures are or were in the minority hence I asked for possible examples

What I strongly believe is that coverage of the bReâsts was more or less mandated for women who were married and less so for maidens

What they want is for the nipplès Not to be censored in media(print, social)
They also want to be able to walk down the road with our being ogled

However ladies also ogle toplêss men so o don't know how that is possible

cococandy:
The forum angle was a joke but ok let us take it seriously. Those guys that come here to complain are real people who see it as abnormal and not natural so they come here to complain. That's for you to know how sexualized it has become.

Nice twist with the shame line. I forgot who was arguing with. Next thing now you will interprete that I said having boobs is something to be ashamed of.
I clearly meant being breast nudee has become something to be ashamed of because we humans have made it so.

You know what? Make we drop the topic.

I never saw it as an argument perhaps you did
No problem then

I still believe the breasts being sexual objects predate colonial days and it is not a modern thing

cococandy:
nobody said it was about advertisement. Na you dey add that one.

Yes the mode of dressing was different for married women, yet it wasn't about shame.

Interesting you see covering of the bReâsts as something to cover shame and not even decency or propriety


Let me even bring another angle

I saw it as a means of men preserving their goodies for themselves and not others...ditto the Arab culture

The old women who have nothing to offer can display their wares as much as possible

No one cares

Since they could still bath in the open streams and the occasional old lady could go out into the market with bare breastss. My grandma told me our generation spoilt the world because her own mother and grandma used to go out bare chest. At least I believe she saw with her own eyes what she's talking about.

They breastfed their children anywhere regardless of who was present. Try to breastfeed in public today and see five guys come on nairaland to open thread on your head

The boobs have become overtly sexualized.

Although I'm indifferent to the bare-it movement. Maybe a little intrigued.

Breastfeeding is very natural
You guys should stop using opinions on forums to judge the real world

cococandy:
I mean already sexually developed girls.
I mentioned Igbo and you're saying I'm being vague. Ok.

THe bottom line is 'uncivilized' (mostly tropical) societies are marked by nudityy. What other proof do you need to know that covering up is an invention not something inborn in all humans?

we sexualized the breasts.
Not that there is something wrong with that(in my opinion) but let's not be like those saying it don't know what they are saying.

Their life, their choice.

Erm....still not answering

I asked did married women in Igbo land fo about toplêss

For the sexually developed girls..going toplêss was a means of advertising their wares..yes or no

After marriage..did they still remain toplêss?

Mcleo007:
Pichichi tinzzz.. You can trust the douchebag to choke on the individual awards.

Hahahaha

Penaldo scoring goals

Do they matter

FrancisTony:
Bianca Ojukwu's father was a governor and well-to-do man.

Type another one. Not all girls marry for money and by the way, she dumped her "Miss Nigeria" crown to marry Ojukwu even though it's against their rule to date a man while as a beauty queen.

Did you comprehend the point at all or just your characteristic arsêspeak

Where did I make an assertion about women marrying for money

I thought he can't score with head na

Haterz..

cococandy:
let me not go far. Old igbo culture to start with.
Before colonization and the imposition of western values on us, young girls grew up without covering boobs. It was no big deal and wasn't sexualized.

The characteristics of some 'uncivilized' societies is nudity. That's how you know covering up for modesty is a learned behavior not an innate one.

Don't be vague

You say young girls....of course bReâsts don't appear till puberty...

they also displayed their wares at maiden dances...to be selected by men

When they were wifed..did they also go toplêss in Igbo land..yes or no

Simple

cococandy:
Not in some cultures.
That's how you know it's a human invention.

Name the cultures where it is not one

freecocoa:
You should realize that some of these boobs come that way, there are naturally saggy boobs.

ok...no wahala

CFCfan:
This event happened in my county and I didn't know about? Diaris god oh
Anyway, I support the movement because men and women's chests shouldn't be subject to different societal rules. Strictly speaking, men's and women's chests aren't sex organs that need to be covered up.
Moreover, New York City's "free the nipples" law has not resulted in an increase in rape cases; I'll implore San Diego city/county, or the CA legislature to pass a similar law.

At the bolded..yes they r not but the breast is a sexual object

sticking with geography themes ..walls

what of valleys and mines

coogar

Kudos to a legen

Xavi hernandez

bukatyne:
That's a blanket question I cannot answer.

Ladies do different things for different reasons.

It would be like saying all men make money to be noticed by women.

men make money to acquire stuff..power,fame etc.women happens to be part of the package

refer to baba oshio, ojukwu, hugh hefner

bukatyne:
Interestingly, you will use your resources to get exhibitionists and fake hair wearers.

Perhaps these ladies are campaigning for you guys afterall

so u agree women do it for them to be noticed by men?

coogar:
fall to the level of the walls of jericho? i have never seen that. what happened to them? did you refuse to wear bras in your teenage years?

haha

freecocoa:
And I answered you na.

ok...

so is d boobs of woman in her 60s now d issue

some of our young women own eh....

bukatyne:
Perhaps men should start a campaign on the ability to wear bum shorts and still look hot or wear only a Long shirt and be accepted.

Nope
We dont need it
weare comfortable in our skin

with the correct resources, we will get any women we desire

no need to be exhibitionist nor bleach nor use fake hair

bukatyne:
Who is stopping them?

Besides, I have not seen responsible men walking about naked If This campaign was about equality with men as Regards unclothedness

correct!
freecocoa,... u see when i asked which circles of nip-ple showers do u roll with

I cannot imagine someone like Obama or Dangote walking unclad on the streets.

That one is even far, I have not even seen any of our official drivers remove their shirts because it is hot.

Perhaps they want to compete with the mad men on the streets.

Anyways, good luck to them.

hahahaha

BoboYekini:
I know how much otherwise productive time I've spent worrying if a babe's nipples were pointy behind the fabric. Not very much time, but still..

i feel u..

what of the sadness one feels when confronted with slippers due to the proliferation of push ups

bukatyne:
The day Nigerian ladies feel their rights to freeing the tips is infringed.

are naija ladies free to free their nip-ples presently

bukatyne:
They want to have freedom to walk naked...

They want to be comfortable in their own bodies...

By the power vested in me as the rights granter, I give it to them.

Goodluck in their quest.

Besides, the boobs need fresh air.

so u support it... when will we have our naija version

freecocoa:
Guess you didn't live in student areas abi? I know how those guys tormented us with their things parked in tight briefs and then top it up with their bare chest. You go say you never go any rural area too abi?
That's the point I've been trying to make, I don't see any need to walk bare chested, neither has any woman I know complained of such,so why should I start a campaign?

students walk that way in their own hostels..not ealking around the campus constituting public nuisances up n down
if u dont see d need
i see the need that you need to free your nips to bring down the patriarchy

freecocoa:
I don't see any vacillation here but then again, people often see what they want to.

BTW, I thought we were talking based on Nigerian level. Men walk about bare chested here all the time.

dont think i have seen men walking barechested anyhow except destitutes
which circles do u roll

Yes, it should be. Why should it be different for women?

so u support freeing d nips
can u and mizmycoli organise something for NL

freecocoa:
I've come to realize that, people define what makes sense to them, which is well within their rights, as far as they aren't hurting anyone while at it, therefore, it doesn't matter what I see as sense making here. If they feel their nips should be exposed, then by all means, let them expose it, don't restrict them and then allow a man do it, simply because he is a man.

you are missing d point here
men dont go around flouting their nips... there are public decency laws

the only spaces u expect to see male nips are in swimming areas n maybe adverts for underwear

should this be the same for women..yes or no...u are vacillating too much

BoboYekini:
I embrace the nude movement. As we shed more clothing, eventually we stop wasting so much energy imagining what she looks like nude. Direct the energy into space research and have hot dog stands on the moon.