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anonimi:
Yet in our foolishness, we almost gave Ebola Owu a third term that could have made him into our own Mugabe.



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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPytmuhYDAU

Even with all these facts, Nigerians are oblivious to what is in front of them.

HungerBAD:
Truth is Nigerians are smart.

We are not as gullible as those who have conspired to frustrate our Economy think.

The above statement you made is debatable. "Smart" and "Nigerian" are two words i will not put in close proximity of one another. I would gladly use "gullible" though.

FowlYansh:
How did we even end up with this crop of leaders?


I regret voting APC

It is not an APC problem. It is a Nigerian Problem. First we complained about Gowon, then OBJ, then Shagari, then Buhari, then IBB, then Abacha (Almost the worst). Then something or someone intervened and we were given the chance for a fresh start. Guess what? Nigerians did not take advantage of the opportunity. In fact, they dug in their heels, and went full frontal on corruption. OBj was given the chance to really change Nigeria but he made corruption a way of life in Nigeria. The corruptive mentality really started with him. It happened in the past but it became almost legal during his tenure and it was all downhill from then on. Now Nigeria's citizens could have stood up to say "no more", but they encouraged it by collecting salt and rice to cast their votes. The biggest fault lies with Nigeria's citizens. No government in the world is more powerful than it's people. History has taught us that. Unless someone can tell me that the concept does not apply to Nigeria.

omonla10:
One of the greatest newscasters we'll ever know

Yes she was good but the greatest? Come on na. What about Ruth Benemasia, Yusuf Jibo, Siene-All-Well-Brown, Abike Dabiri, etc? Even John Momoh.

IncredibleJoe:
Source:http://sakajoe..com.ng/2016/09/why-you-should-not-eat-okro-if-you-male.html?m=1

You lie. It is better to tell me not to breath.

Babzilla:
They think NCOs are the usual illiterate dumb bunch we have here. They dont realize that those are the where the real strength of a millitary formation lies. Like I said its the mindset. Where we believe that true change is from the top

True talk.

Kgdavid:
. Have a nice life

Nooo. Don't go. Your mentality hasn't changed. This is the point of the whole exercise. I need to change it.

Kgdavid:
You know it's funny how you so eagerly snatch at the opportunity to belong to the US but you consistently show that your mind does not understand the ideals and principles that nation holds dear. I won't bother to respond to the "points" you raised because i can see now that you are not college educated (ur an NCO or below abi? plus your diction is filled with vulgarities), hence your lack of comprehension and inability to see beyond a meal ticket.

Your last line is quite interesting though. What would Nigeria give you?

Have you never heard these words from a great American president, John Fitzgerald Kennedy, "ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country". ?

I am glad we do not have people like you in Nigeria. The more of you disloyal, self centered and unpatriotic elements we can get rid of, the better for us as a nation.

Further, since you believe Nigeria to be a lost cause and you are now identifying with the Americans, what are you looking for on nairaland? That one is for you and the man in the mirror to ponder on.

Lol. The mor.on is quoting a country that has already provided for it's citizens. Lol again. And yes. I am an NCO. SFC in fact. A proud one. And one who would shame your Generals. Uneducated? MSU would disagree with that. Like i have always told people who ask me what i am doing on Niairaland; I come here to make fun of s.tupid people and not to forget the phucked people i left behind. It motivates me.

Kgdavid:
1. I never compared the Nigerian army to any army. You did that, with the intention of ridiculing our boys. I merely called you out on it.

2. Is the US army really the best, or the best equipped?

3. Your definition of freedom is the absence of struggles? i'd love to know which school taught you that.

4. The stark difference between you and i is that i would rather stay, live, fight and die to make Nigeria work. You would rather sell your hide, live, fight and die for a few morsels of bread in a foreign land. That is your choice. Good for you.

Now that everyone who visits this thread can see for themselves what the US army does with it's free time, you can stay here and keep ranting to yourself. Sell-sword.

1. When you asked "@ the bolded, in what way does this make the US military different from any military anywhere in the world"? I don't think you read the things you write before you post them.

2. We are the best in the world. Why? Because we think and it is an NCO driven army. What that means is an NCO is in charge of training and leading soldiers. It also means if an officer dies in battle, the fight continues. The NCO takes charge unlike most military in the world. I recently just got back from the baltic Nations were we are trying to teach this concept. And yes. We are better trained and Equipped. Go to Grafenwoer Germany and you will understand. Even British Soldiers come to us for training.

3. Quote where i ever said that. There is freedom because we fight for it on a daily basis. Unlike Nigeria. We are a country because we fought the british for it. Get your fact right.

4. The stark difference between you and i is recognizing a lost battle. Especially with people like you who are in the millions thinking the way you do in Nigeria. There is no hope for a country where the mentality is phucked up. I'd rather fight for my right to exist in a country that welcomes me with open arms and provides immensely for me and my family. If i die in service for America, my wife will be taken care off for the rest of her life plus a payment of more than half a million dollars. What would Nigeria give me?

Kgdavid:
Like i care what you find or do not find hard to believe?

So there is 24 hrs electricity in the US, and not one single road has a single pothole, what has that got to do with the level of professionalism of the US military and it's soldiers?

Still missing the point. Your thought process is thinking a thing is the standard but which is not. If you can think like that of the Nigerian military when everyone else knows it is not, what else do you approve of? Think man, think. Obviously your mental capacity cannot keep up. Try.

Kgdavid:
Your combination of a lack of comprehension and condescension is startling. I almost feel sorry for you.

Where have i ever for once posted that the Nigerian Army is the best or is the standard? It is you who is doing just that, and i am here showing you that the US army does not measure up to the standard you would like to pretend that it does.

In fact, i am sorry for you. I would rather choose my Nigeria with all her deficiencies, than be a slave in the US army.

Your argument so far says it is the best, because you have the nerve to compare it to the best. And yes i am a slave. I am a slave to freedom, quality life, respect and fulfillment. I'd rather be a slave to these things than be a "free" man in Nigeria. Smh. What a thought process. No wonder Nigeria has been moving backwards for half a century. What with people like you existing in it.

Babzilla:
The difference is the US millitary commits crimes in the course of war against percieved enemies.
The Nigerian soldiers willl commit crimes aginst the same people they are supposed to protect. I dont need to go far even on this forum you hear them talking shìt and bragging about it all the time

Don't waste your breadth.

Kgdavid:
shut your mouth you ignorant sell-sword.

I have spent months in the US and even have a close pal in the US army.

Spending months in the U.S is not adequate. If at all you ever did. I find it hard to believe based on your argument so far. You need to visit everywhere and compare. That is the point.

Kgdavid:
coming after you have just confessed that you have never encountered the Nigerian army, what do you know about them. Stick to the point and stop changing the goal posts. What on earth does electricity and pot holes have to do with what we are talking about? We are talking about the army and i have countered every single point you raised.

Take a look at your so called professional and disciplined army at work.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BG1YC0Okbts

And i also said i grew up in a military household. At least read the whole thing na. And the connection between electricity and pot holes is the way you think as a people. To you, the Nigerian army is the standard. It is not. Just like if you got more electricity in your homes but not all day would be standard to you. Let me shock you. The standard is to have electricity 24 hrs a day, everyday. I am trying to connect your way of thinking, which is substandard. The fact that you cannot understand this proves my point. If you can think the Nigerian army is the standard, what other substandard thing do you approve of?

Kgdavid:
btw the Chief of army staff never defended said "hazing" which we do not know for a fact occurred. What happened in fact is that the chief of armys taff DENIED that said incident occurred as was reported. Why are you such a blatant hypocrite?

and btw where are the laughing nairalanders, you sell-sword?

This is just a piece of advice for you. Since you obviously don't know or are oblivious to what is going on around you, i would suggest you start traveling. Start with Ghana and then progress from there. You don't know which is why the substandard is standard for you. Once you start exploring, you will be amazed and realize how crappy Nigeria is and the way you do/perceive things. Your life will never be the same again. That or pick up a real book and start reading. Google is not always your friend.

iamrealdeji:
God bless our soldiers. I would have called them the best soldiers in the world[b]if they don't bully and beat civilians[/b]

You heard that kgdavid?

Kgdavid:
You are the one that is flippant. Is the US army not renowned for cover ups up until today?

http://www.solidarity-us.org/node/1812

http://www.commondreams.org/views/2008/04/28/there-army-cover-rape-and-murder-women-soldiers

Like i said, your standards are adequate for what Nigeria provides. If you receive electricity 60 hrs a week you will be satisfied. If the police show up one hour after a robbery incident, you will be ok. If there are pot holes on half a road, your argument will be "at least it is not all of the road". Nigerians are deaf, dumb and blind to their condition and the lowest standard is adequate enough for them, hence why would you be defending the indefensible? How anyone can be defending the Nigerian military is mind boggling to me.

Kgdavid:
@ the bolded, in what way does this make the US military different from any military anywhere in the world?

You want evidence of discipline in the Nigerian Military, here is some:

http://saharareporters.com/2016/08/10/nigerian-army-court-martials-20-soldiers-including-four-officers

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2016/05/2-major-generals-face-court-martial/

http://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/headlines/188113-nigerian-army-to-punish-soldiers-for-maltreating-suspected-armed-robber.html

Most Nigerians do not understand the meaning of the word "discipline". Which is why you throw it around so flippantly. Dude, are you for real? Just last week a cadet in the army was hazed to death and the chief of army staff was defending it publicly. Bros, Nairalanders are laughing at your argument because everyone seems to know what you don't know. I guess maybe your standards are adequate for what Nigeria provides.

Kgdavid:
No one said you could give the Nigerian army a bad name. You are not capable of doing that.

You clearly stated that US soldiers act in a certain way, and now that i have shown you evidence of the horrible behavior of Us military personnel, you are saying that some people will always do stupid things.

But if you know that, then why is it that when a few Nigerian soldiers do some stupid things, you use that as an excuse to attempt to ridicule the entire Nigerian army, which you have already confessed to never having encountered?

The point is blatantly obvious that whatever you can accuse the Nigerian army of doing, the US and its various security bodies and agencies have done far, far worse.

It is on Record that the US remains the only western nation which maintains terror facilities, even going as far as to establish them outside US borders in order to beat their very own US laws.

You are first of all a hypocrite. And second of all you are a sell-sword.

I honestly do hope you can comprehend the quote below;

"Any serious mistake on your part could land you in jail for a very long time. And if you decide you want to do you own thing and not follow the rules, they will kick you out with a dishonorable discharge which means finding employment in the civilian world will be very difficult for you. Even walmart wouldn't hire you".

Why would i have said that if not for the fact that a select few have done that before? I surely do hope you are not arguing for the sake of it. The mere fact that you had something to find proves that we hold everyone accountable. You can't get away with stu.pid shiit in the army unlike in Nigeria. Everyone knows the Nigerian military is bad but can you find anything of youtube showing where one of them is held accountable for his/her actions?

Kgdavid:
seems like you're here to ridicule the Nigerian army

seems like you're here to ridicule the Nigerian army .

Is this the same US military you are talking about?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_W8WeO6wSF8


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSKLWBgXGdQ


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pc7dmaQw-8s

Read through my comments. You will find that i have already said what will happen to soldiers who go against our rules. People will always do s.tupid shiit which is why there are rules in the first place. And i don't have to give the Nigerian military a bad name. It does it all by itself.

Babzilla:
Well Im a little conce red about it blowing up nah. So I think there should be a timeline for the replacement of the C4 phones
Theb I wont have to worry

Funny thing is, mine is working perfectly fine. And i got one the first batch. I honestly think the one's that were found deficient were probably misused. Either way, buy it if you can. You will find that it makes the iphone look and feel like the nokia 3310.

Babzilla:
How soon do you think replacementswill be compketed in the US... Im thinking maybe Ill have someone get mine frm there

It doesn't matter where you bought it as long as it is a legitimate store.

tdayof:
As an American military kindly show me how the color of USA military operational camouflage that looks like the US military woodland Marpat. The best you will bring up is the Marine Marpat and the difference is clear.

I am talking about the design pattern even up to the rank insignia and deployment patches and how they are placed on the shoulders.

Kgdavid:
How? I don't see any camo there that even remotely resembles anything the Americans wear

I'm talking about the design pattern.

Babzilla:
Yeah Ive often wondered in yhe course of your work have U had to interact with Nigerian soldiers
and when you do, what's your opinion? what do they discuss with you
Do they brag about bullying civilians they way they brag about it here? Apparently its a thing of pride

I have not had the opportunity of mingling with Nigerian Soldiers since joining but i grew up in a military household. From what i've seen and heard, it is no different from when i was growing up. They lack discipline, professionalism, and pride. I don't really blame them though. They are using the tools provided to them. Worse still is the fact that they think like the every day Nigerian. They are supposed to be better and live with a higher standard. In the army, if a civilian should slap one of us, guess what we would do? We just walk away. Can you believe that. We are taught that we serve them and are better than them so just leave them be. Any altercation with a civilian is a bad idea. In Nigeria, that civilian would be dead. Being a Soldier is not just about carrying weapons and shooting. We do more class work than field training. They make us think. A lot. Any serious mistake on your part could land you in jail for a very long time. And if you decide you want to do you own thing and not follow the rules, they will kick you out with a dishonorable discharge which means finding employment in the civilian world will be very difficult for you. Even walmart wouldn't hire you.

tdayof:
We do not use US cammo scheme. Our SBS is the only one close and that's the British SBS.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uniforms_of_the_United_States_Armed_Forces

I don't need to read anything. The colour may be different but the design pattern is of the U.S army. We've been using it since the mid 2000's. Every single thing they are wearing i have. The difference is the colour.

Babzilla:
Hehehe
I wish they could Americanize their behaviour and training too

Ouch. That was below the belt. And deservedly so. hehehehehehehe.

I thought Nigeria hates the U.S? Why is their military trying so desperately to Americanize their uniforms? Lol.....

yanabasee:
Been using ma samsung 7s since I got it and ion think it's among the affected products so far!!!

The replacements are coming in this thursday. I would advice you turn it in and get a new one.

Alexk2:
I love this expecially coming from fayose of all people. Only an enemy of Nigeria will pray for the failure of this present govt.. ..we can't wait till 2019 to get out of the mess we find ourselve; God no go gree!
Who zombies and wailing wailers eep? Nigeria will be great.

Question you should be asking is why are they praying in the first place when they can just get to work and do? Only lazy people pray. Dem go learn one day.

I phucking hate European houses. See how tiny the kitchen is. Phuck that.

MissHatey:
I agree. Others are still making their money and the fact is that you can't force people to come and make money. Morning pim.pim.pim.

Very funny.