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dremoney:You demanding to know what school I went to? Very funny. How old are you? End-user is a subset of stakeholder. Trying to educate you is like banging ones head against the wall. You don't get it do you? If you can't have a debate without resorting to insults, it indicates social ineptitude and communication incompetence usually evident in psychopaths. Well, an im-becile will always be an im-becile even if you give him a computer with internet access. His low intelligence quotient will always let him down and give him away. You're beyond salvation. I am ashamed of myself trying to have a debate will a nincompoop. You're henceforth ignored. |
chamber2:Very patronising! Someone will think that you know me from Adam. What gives you the impression that the pre-requisites of the policy have not been thought through? Onlytruth:Have to always see everything from an ethnic bigot point of view. I'm sure your opinion will be different if this policy was brought up under Soludo CBN administration. |
yeswecan:Please read the original post - slowly. There is nothing in the policy that prevents free movement of cash. It does not impose penalty on cash 'huge cash transaction'. It is only trying to discourage huge transaction using physical cash and encourage huge transactions using electronic cash. Did you notice the difference mate? This will increase the volume of cash flowing through the system and reduce the volume flowing outside it. There is nothing socialist about this. dremoney:I knew that you wont see my definition of common good in my earlier post, let me rephrase it for you “Common good”, is defined as having a positive effect on a wide constituency of stakeholders, and the system we call “society” as a whole. common good = common benefit of all stake holders [consumers (cheaper services, reduction in risk associated with cash - robbery, mugging, kidnapping), retailers (reduction in cost of collecting and counting large cash volume, reduced cost for customers), banks (reduction in cost associated with cash infrastructure = cheaper services for the customers, increased profit for the banks), FG (reduction in the cost of printing money which can be diverted to provide other social benefits), law enforcement agencies (increased ability to trace criminal money for more effective public safety services), new jobs to support new model, improved economic planning and forecasting ability for CBN as the volume of cash 'out there' can now be quantified - economic output can be accurately stated without plucking figures from the air, etc] I'm sorry, I might just have succeeded in creating more confusion for you. |
!rejoice:Experienced change managers will tell you that you sometimes have to use coercion if you want to achieve some kind of changes especially those related to attitude, values and culture. Left on there own, attitude, culture and value don't change. The real question is, is there discernible benefit to all stakeholder? It the benefits are genuine, I think that the use of coercion is in order. dremoney:Wrong! Common good and not end user is the only factor when talking about policy of government or a public regulatory body. The key question they'll always ask is, will it be for the common good (common benefit of all stake holders, economic viability and economic benefits, sustainable economic growth, etc)? Since you can't debate without calling names and showing what an asswipe you are, I guess that you wont be able to comprehend this. Get your head out of your a-ss and ask a simple question - what are the goals of the policy? |
yeswecan:How does my opinion make me a Socialist? Do you even understand the term 'Socialist'? How is this policy 'punish people for having to build a business and make daily cash transactions'? |
!rejoice:There is nothing wrong with this policy. I think all the required infrastructure are already in place. The missing piece is forcing people to change their attitude to cash which I believe is what Sanusi is trying to achieve. For those shouting electricity, check out the following: First Data launched the FD400, the first low-cost, battery-powered, wireless point-of-sale terminal using 3G wireless network technology. For merchants who do not have constant access to both a power source and communication line, it’s awesome.The cost of these devices is similar to what people spend on mobile phones. Also if you can use mobile phone, you can use this devices. I know one Nigerian card company that deployed services based around similar devices as far back as 2006. Some people will be shouting impossible while others will be making a lot money by positioning themselves for the takeoff of the policy. I don't think the opinions expressed on nairaland matters in anyway. If CBN and the banks have agreed, it only needs the support of the FG and I don't see FG support being witheld.
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onatisi:Why not if ACN bleeps up and there is free and fair election? I can assure you that some of the ACN governors will Bleep up. I'm placing my bet on Oyo state in the first instance. How did I know this? The first statement of the governor elect is an indication of what he will spend the next four years doing. |
Obiagu1:Thank you! |
Dr_Smile:It is not rocket science to design for manufacture in China POS running run on batteries similar to mobile phones running on battery. This policy will force the ;50 years Old laborer' to have a bank account (if he doesn't have one already) and this way Sanusi will have succeeded where others have failed. Moreover every village have GSM. Ever heard about mobile banking? Moreover, you can give the labourer check to cash at the bank if he must touch money. |
EPOMA:Of-course there are disadvantages but I do not think that they are serious enough to constitute deal-breakers. I believe that the benefits far outweigh the dis-benefits. The only disadvantage I see is to the end user of cash who will lose the convenience and anonymity of cash and carry. However, if all the parties I enumerated in my earlier post benefits, who will care about one 'little; inconvenience to the users of cash? The policy will work beautifully if the restriction on cash deposit is removed. |
Personally, I think that this is a brilliant idea from Sanusi. However, I'll prefer that he slightly adjust the policy by not restricting the payment of cash to bank accounts in order to make it convenient for retailers who will still accumulate large volume of cash from different customers and will need to pay it into their accounts. I think that the benefit of the policy will depend on wether you're a bank, payment processor/digital cash company, retailer, supplier/printer of money (CBN), end user of cash and law enforcement. Advantages to the Banks 1. Reduced cost of infrastructure to support cash based society - less cash holding at branches, less cashiers to count cash, less cost of cash transport (security, bullion van, etc), less security requirements to secure large volume of cash in bank branches, etc. 2. New business opportunity in merchant accounts and commission on each transaction 3. More liquidity for banks with increase in cash passing through the banks = increased lending = increased money available to banks for trading 4. Increased accuracy of banks to evaluate credit rating of customers since a large percentage of money transactions will pass through the banks = incentives for credit financing, credit cards, etc 5. etc Advantages to the payment processor/digital cash company 1. Increased patronage payment processor, digital wallet companies, mobile (phone) money companies = increased profitability = business growth 2. Incentive to invest in infrastructure to support cash free society Advantages for the retailers 1. Reduced cost of infrastructure to support cash intensive operation - less cash holding at shops, less cashiers to count cash, more processing time per customer, less time spent to deposit sales proceed at banks, less cost of cash transport (security, bullion van, etc), less security requirements to secure large volume of cash in bank shops, ability to perform sales transactions involving larger volume of cash, etc. 2. New business opportunity in merchant accounts and commission on each transaction 3. Increase ability to demonstrate business potential to banks for credit financing purpose 4. etc Advantages to the CBN 1. Reduction in the demand for cash hence reduction the the cost of printing large volume of cash 2. Increased ability to fight money laundry Advantages to the Law Enforcement 1. Increased ability to fight money laundry and trace bribe and other crime money 2. Reduction in robbery and muggings associated cash based society - robbers will not go to peoples home because the is not a large amount of cash, kidnapping will reduce because the cash will have to be transferred to their accounts thereby defeating anonimity. Advantages to End Users of Cash 1, Reduction in risks associated with holding large amount of cash - mugging, robbery, etc 2. Not much else. |
[WilyWily:It is quite shameful that this is the only thing you've got to contribute to this thread. I do hope that you're just having a laugh with this bigotry and it is not deep-seated. If you'll like to compare notes, I'll like to jog your memories with the following igbo names (also accused of fraud same time as Akingbola); Okey Nwosu, Francis Atuche, Sebastian Adigwe, Emmanuel Okoji, Ben Nwoji, Henry Onyemem and Ernest Duruike. I'm sure that the identity of the leading undisputed Fraudulent Tribe is clearer now. |
Onlytruth: Don't get your hopes too high. You might become highly disappointed. His getting hight percentage of votes in the SE/SS might not be a good thing. Let me explain. Because GEJ will become the president of Nigeria and not just that of the SS/SE, he will play the politics of appeasement i.e try to appease the supposed hostile regions in terms of political patronage. That is the kind of politics he has been playing in the last one year. I don't see how it will now be different. To act differently will be to walk into the traps of some of his competitors and the outcome will not be pretty. |
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You guys are jokers here! ![]() You are making out GEJ here like he'll become president of the SS/SE and not that of Nigeria. I'm sure that he is wiser. I dey laugh o! ![]() |
I predict that the next four years will be like the last 1 year X 4 ![]() |
henry101:It means that for every 100 people you meet in any of the 5 South East states, 95 will be Yoruba. Infact they have integrated so much that they all speak fluent igbo and you wont know that they are Yoruba unless they told you. This fact shocked Ken Nnamani when he was the Senate president so much that he insisted that ethnicity should not be included in the last census form. In fact, the current igbo governors are performing, that's why they have not been replaced by Yoruba governors. By 2015, all the political office holders will be replaced with Yorubas. Alj Uche:How are you Alhaji? |
You guys must be so much in love with Yoruba. I can't count how many of these silly threads have appeared in the politics section within the last one hour. Obiagu1:The same ticket that won in almost Yoruba state and answerable to one Ota farmer. The last time I checked, this ticket was helped to victory also in the South east by the overwhelmingly large population of yorubas living in the South East (95% of South East population is yoruba). So what is your point? At the end of the day it is not about the tribal affiliation of the man at the centre but how how he affects the living standard of the general populace. |
Majority of the votes for GEJ in the SW came from the Igbos living there,Do they write name and tribe of voters on ballot papers now? ![]() only a few Yorubas voted, others stayed at home and didn't bother to vote, because they don't have their own running for President.I guess all the igbos staying in Yorubaland voted as well. and The poster knows this for a fact. Silly thread from a bigot! |
aysometin:M.Sc in Project Management is an absolute waste of resources! PRINCE2 and PMP have more value. An M.Sc in Engineering Design + PRINCE2/PMP might be more useful in your current career track (assuming you'll like to stay in the same)/ If you must choose (I don't believe you have to choose since its your money and you need to get good value for it) between M.Sc in Management and M.Sc in Project Management, M.Sc in Management will be preferred. On a final note if one school can't offer you what you want, you need to look for one that will. |
AjanleKoko:It is quite possible that they were already working on the idea before your friend came along. It takes several weeks (not a few days) to develop and launch a new product/campaign. If I find myself in a similar position I wont do anything unless I can prove that my idea was so unique and innovative that I can prove beyond reasonable doubt in a court of law that it has been copied and potential legal remedy far outweigh the legal cost. I have made the assumption that your friend didn't present a trade secret or restricted information as this would have been highly unprofessional. |
Dede1:Your submission is sadly true. Whose fault is this state of affairs? Quatarra? France? Gbagbo? or the Southern people? How could this outcome have been avoided? |
Tinubu a hero of democracy? Na wa! Jarus dey fall my hand!!I don't really know much about Buhari as a civillian politician. However, in my opinion, if democracy is government of the greedy, for the greedy and by the greedy, then Tinubu is a democrat. Ofcourse, to agree with your point, thanks to ACN, APGA, CPC, LP, Nigeria is not a one party state. However, is there any ideological difference between any of the parties? Are the main actors fundamentally different? If there is no ideological difference, then what is a one party state? fstranger3:I agree with this view. |
yeswecan:I fully agree with your view. It shows the value system of the original poster glorifying a godfather who collects 15% of Lagos IGR every month leaving leaving 17million people to live on the remaining 85%! |
Seun:Wrong! Gbenga Daniel has shown that he is a master strategist!! He is fighting his war with Obj. Politics 101. Why do you think that Daniel met Tinubu? Add the votes of PPN to PDP and the picture will become clearer. PPN is in the election just to divide PDPs vote and ensure that they fail in Ogun state. The same scenario will play out in the Governorship election but not in the presidential election where PPN adopted Jonathan. |
Excellent and insightful analysis. The politics of desperation. It is quite unfortunate that the real losers here will be the people of Akwa Ibom state. Irrespective of who wins the election, the state will never be the same again. There will be mutual suspicion between the Ibibio and Annang people. The question is, why did Akpabio think that it is alright to prevent the opposition from campaigning among his tribe? That is playing tribal card. He has just destroyed his state due to his desperation! |
40% is high for the whole of Kano state. I would suppose something in the region of 25%. Most Igbos in Kano are located in Kano City, hence giving them 40% of the whole state would mean they constitute much more than half of all the votes in the city. That can't be accurate. However, Igbos by a large margin are the second largest ethnic group in any city in Nigeria after the indigenous groups. Their size is definitely capable of turning the tables in any tight election.This figures looks like they are plucked from the air. The igbos should be rising to political dominance in all those states if they are truly that many. |
PapaBrowne:So what are they? Read about ilaje in the link below. http://www.ilajecwa.org.uk/history.htm |
De Sheikh:What role? What background? |
gbadaniyi:Do you have formal job description? If the people who hired you have described what you need to do to earn your pay, why do you need nairalanders to help you by giving you a new job description? If you've got an issue or misunderstanding with your job descrption or you want enhanced role, why not discuss with your line manager? Maybe I misunderstood your post. You can use google (it is faster) to search for a 'typical' job description of a logistics officer if you just want to know for research purpose. |
Why are you picking on Ribadu? How did the others perform? I was so disappointed to find out that Buhari is vacuous. Check responses below: The debate centred on a number of issues like power generation, corruption in governance, oil sector and Niger Delta, Education and Health as well as Jos crisis and the zoning system in the nation’s polity.http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/presidential-debate-buhari-ribadu-shekarau-list-agenda/88099/ Buhari wants to become president, has contested the last two elections and has no clue about Nigeria power problem. He wants to solve it by probe. How is that different from the current legislature? What was the outcome of their probe? At the end of the day, he did not tell us what he will do to solve the problem. Shekarau embarked on a N6 Billion spending spree for water project ('successfully executed' ) without thinking about how it will be powered. That tells us something about his level of intelligence. The caliber of people seeking elective offices in Nigeria sef! Na wa!! |
Before I came on board, there were a lot of loopholes through which people, who are supposed to be collecting revenues for the state siphoned money; they were not remitting money into the state coffers but when Alpha Beta came on board, it helped moved our Internal Generated Revenue (IGR) from N600 million to over N14 billion. "The outfit set up to collect taxes is the Inland Revenue Services (LIRS,) Alpha Beta only help us to verify all documents issued by the LIRS; it helped us to issue electronic tax clearance. If it helped us to generate this huge money, I just felt it is fair to appreciate the firm with the controversial 15 per cent."N2.1 billion per month for a firm of less than 20 staff just for document verification? |


