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[size=18pt]Turning and turning
in the widening gyre.
The falcon cannot
hear the falconer;
Nigeria Things fall apart;
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Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,



Interesting...

The hash tag #Biafra is trending today in Nigeria at no 1, and Igbos at no 3.

Where are the doubting Thomases?

Atk1nson:
I wish u pay a visit to the north east, u have no idea of the externalities that come with armed insurgency which is what this could eventually lead to

You have no idea who I am or where I have been!

asha80:
I know for a fact you are not based in the east..to be factual you are based in lagos( at least before elections) and i am not speculating

Actually, you don't know what you are talking about.

But this thread is not about me or you, it's about something much bigger than this squabble. So I'll let you continue speculating where I am or not. It's immaterial and won't matter when Biafra is achieved! Besides, we will all have to make certain sacrifice before, during, and after Biafra is achieved.

asha80:
because you are not based any where in se.

The fact of the matter is that you don't know for certain where I am based. So quit your unnecessary speculations and discuss things you are very certain of. I recall telling you this a while ago.

asha80:
problem is you are not feeling the pinch..

And you know this how?

asha80:
guy aside what rochas has in mind this protest has stayed on enough..the economy of the states is affected more in this

Freedom is more important than money.

I have seen countries shut down for weeks to drive home their point.

When Lagosians wanted to die for free petrol,they were at Ojota for days, and Lagos didn't collapse!

Rochas is not an Igbo leader, he's only acting APC script! He's afraid the "Biafra Harmattan" will scorch him!

It's not enough not to like the idea of Biafra, the question is "What's he bringing to the table?"

In any case, we mostly don't respect the opinion of the turn-coat Rochas.

The people want to be free; they want Biafra! Rochas said the aspiration of his people is a distraction, what kind of leader speaks like that?

If Rochas and Ohaneze cannot offer the people what they want, I'm afraid they have lost their relevance, and should make way for those in tune with reality. Sovereignty belongs to the people, not to the so-called leaders!

A good leader must first listen, and then guide, not impose his will on the people!

lygn19:
the way u guys think at times marvels me...
are u sure most of u are educated?
The ignorance u guys display scares me.

You should.

Revolution is started by folks such as us. We are usually considered ignorant, insane, and irrational. But sometimes, the difference between insanity and ingenuity is often blurred. The end usually justify the means.

Keep sitting on the fence; keeping pointing fingers while we make or mar your future!

EternalTruths:
To further buttress your point


The Nigeria government is suffering victory disease



Victory disease is when a Nation allows her last victory deceive her into believing that she will always win



Biafrans have 2 sources of funding war


1) Her Resources

2) Her Diasporas



Biafra of 67 is different from Biafra of 2015


Unlike 67 were lots of minorities hate Igbos 2015 has seen the minorities take side with Biafrans.

Thank you my brother.

That's why we must not panic, or cower in the face of threats.

This is 21st century, the dynamics have change completely, armed conflicts can be sustained for far longer, and it usually more destructive. Nigeria would be wise to talk now, rather than fight later.

As for we Biafrans, "what is dead may never die!"

asha80:
and you want mind igboland turning to Syria with Igbo refugees moving around neighbouring Africa countries looking for asylum? I.hope you know some of the erosion issues in the se were cause by bombs that were dropped in the war back then that created craters than eventually snowballed into erosion? Look my own is that igboland does not witness any armed conflict again because i doubt we will recover from it again..there are already dearth of infrastructure that really needs uplifting and it is not like the last administration did anything meaningful



Armed conflict is only romantic in books and films

Nigeria will not survive an armed conflict either, especially if Biafran war planner have the foresight to declare as enemy those who willing habour and allow Nigeria army pass into her territory. The refugee crisis that will be generated by such war will not be limited to Biafran alone. It's better to avoid war by listening to the cries for freedom, but to say we shouldn't agitate for freedom for Biafra is to be oblivious to the yearning of Biafran; it is to say we should die in fear of the unknown in the face of oppression.

Sorry but we are not coward, and again, all men must die!

asha80:
I repeat it was not a good move by him..you don't do such openly..the niger delta militants did no solicit fir weapons openly so that comparison does not stand.[b].if there was supposed to be an international support for Biafra actualization that video alone if presented by FG that kanu wants to cause an armed conflict will just erase whatever sympathy he may have..[/b]you think they are interested in another armed conflict?by the way you really don't care if there is an armed conflict in igboland?do you live in igboland or do you visit at all?

buhari made the mistake of arresting him in the first instance( though his inciting hate messages can be used against him if eventually gets to icc ie kanu)..i dont know about you but last thing igboland needs now is arms flying around and an armed conflict..it would would create a so much Chaos igboland would find difficult to get over

Actually, the bolded is your opinion. As we speak, there is an armed rebellion going on in Syria. The 'rebels' are openly asking for weapons, and they are getting it. There are other examples, so please stick to what you are certain of. International politics is as defined by the interest of the big and small players.

To answer your question, Igboland don't need an armed conflict, but Igboland must be ready to defend herself in case of an armed conflict, which the 'body language' of the incumbent is suggesting. And one of the best way to prevent such is by MAD - Mutually Assured Destruction. Biafrans must be fully armed, and must be ready to take the fight to Nigeria territory, as that's the best means of discouraging an armed conflict. MAD is what is keeping Russians and US from having a go at each other. Those who seek freedom must not be afraid of death as all men must die! The foolish governors must first make way for those who are in tune with the reality of time for this to happen.

And if you agree Buhari made a mistake arresting him, why are you against his release? The foolish president must de-escalate the situation by releasing Kalu and offering talks! Otherwise, he'll spend more money buying weapons rather than improving infrastructure - that's a recipe for failure.

Eve0000:
I am igbo but i seriously dont support this,we dont need another civil war/bloodshed in this country. The bloodshed we are facing currently is enough.PEACE

It's not about bloodshed it's about freedom from the cesspit called Nigeria, it's about separation from the zoo! So far the protest has been largely peaceful, but I fear tolerance has a limit, every organism have breaking point.

Right now, we don't know who will fire the first shot. But as Biafrans, we must hope for the best, while preparing for the worst! The Zoogerians can be very foolish sometimes, especially now they have a dullard for president!

Goke7:
[b]Negotiation with a guy who called PMB a phaedophile, [/b]you must be joking. The earlier thses guys know that they are dealing with military strategists, the better, ipob or whoever they are must start behaving like boko haram before anyone takes them serious but they don't have the liver, all na noise

I think you are the joke, seriously.

Where were you when the duara dullard was on Aljazeera offering to negotiate with Shekau and his Boko boys? By the way, if the the duara dullard was a pedophile, what's wrong calling him that?

asha80:
not sure about kanu being released...not when he solicited for weapons openly...there are things you don't do openly .
.moreover violence is only going to affect the economy of the places the violence occurs

He solicited for weapons right?

Well I have news for you, the Niger Delta militants were armed to the teeth, they killed, kidnapped and caused economic sabotage, but today they are powerful men if not power brokers! And if current FG have the their they are ready to offer Shekau similar package as they did the militants.

So Kanu publicly asking for weapons is not a big deal, even if he fires one. Or is it because he's an Igbo with a message?

asha80:
what about umahi?even ikpeazu said he will not.do anything to the protesters until they start disturbing the peace of the state

The protesters are not violent, not faceless, they are peaceful and have made demands. There demand should be taken seriously by the elected leaders (ala Fayose style). But hiding behind some offices, and pretending they are miscreants won't help the issue.

Ipeazu neutrality, as well Umahi disdain and Rochas dismissive posturing will not solve the problem; and the problem will not just go away with time.

Nnamdi Kalu should be released, and negotiation with the agitators should begin in earnest. If the protests turns violent, more violence will be required to quell it, and only God knows how that will pan out. And sincerely, I don't see how that will help the government (State and FG). Violence itself cost lot of money by the way, and the State pay more for violence than non-state actors!

It's a grass root driven protest ( a bottom up approach). Sooner or later those standing by the fence, and those opposing it will join force and help bring the aspiration to fruition.

Sovereignty belongs to the people; the elites know this, and would be very careful not go against the trend.


Rochas are you listening - you can't stop the will of the people!!

This crap on FP? What's the message?

Abeg Muslims should go and discuss this in Islam for Islam section. We are not interested.

They could be kissing for all you know. I don't trust any politician or their wives!

Sweetguy25:
Lest I forget his penchant of washing our dirty linen in public.

E.g Telling the world that Nigeria cannot pay the salaries of ministers because the country is broke.




Lets just say its done, before they call us unnecessarily angry wailers.

Do you think those shameless liars need excuse?

Abeg sell them to Yorubads. Igbos have wised up now. Real Estates are more profitable in Ala Igbo now than anywhere else by the way.

Good move.

Finally, something original (hopefully) and good from APC.

Aufbauh:
This is one of the reasons i have not taken the opposition party PDP seriously.
Most of the economic backslashes we are experiencing now was inherited. The opposition will be quick to point out how bad our economy has degenerated forgetting that some of us are more intelligent and reasonable to know that the economy of a nation does not start crashing in a matter of months. It is a build up of failed policies and programmes cluelessly initiated or poorly implemented.
They're always quick to point to the positives of this present administration as a programme conceived and initiated by the GEJ but will distance themselves from the mess they created. What a hypocrisy!
Nigerians have no option than to wait patiently for PMB led administration as he clean the aurgen table left behind by the crooked and perversed government of GEJ.
To set the record straight, more than 50%of this debt was carried over from the previous government making the present administration to start from an indebted position.

True and most of those debts were accumulated by APC governed Sates, Lagos especially.

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gurunlocker:
confused president, confused party and surrounded with confused people.


presidency said all minister will get portfolio, now bubu say no... abeg who they give those in presidency order initially? or is it just that bubu is a dictator?

They are confused in that presidency, from the duara dullard to the least of the APC official. yeye things.

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Bolade005:
Biafra will never happen. Biafra died the day Ojukwu ran away. This new agitation for Biafra is nothing but a joke. If Ojukwu were alive, he'd tell you this is a pipe dream. I won't tell you to stop dreaming though. Goodluck.

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Says an ignoramus.

Who cares who's done what.

Association of Political Crooks (APC) or whatever the call themselves these days should fix the darn thing for the benefit of Arewanistan, Oduanistan and whoever follows them. As for me and my family, we await the dawn of the rising sun. #freeNnamdiKanu #freebiafra !