MaxInDHouse:


“Return your sword to its place, for all those who take up the sword will perish by the sword" Matthew 26:52

Perhaps the disciples won't teach the converts what Christ COMMANDED in the above quote! Matthew 28:19-20

Yes you are right.
Jesus commanded his disciples not to fight his captors when he was being arrested to be crucified. That was the Lesson you pick as Don't join the military?
Since of course Jesus forgot to preach the sermon against those serving in the military all through out his years of ministry.

Even Paul and all the Other Apostles forgot to preach the sermon and resound the warning .
Yes you are Right
Very right.

TechPine:
Lets support Nigeria startup especially in this time of high cost of fuel

God bless you.
All they need is ur support. It is free of charge, it costs us next to nothing.

MaxInDHouse:


He ran away from the question that will expose his unbelief!

He claims Cornelius remains a soldier after his baptism as a born again Christian.

So when the Roman Emperor ordered that all Jews in Jerusalem should be wiped out.

Whose side will Cornelius who is a soldier and at the same time born again Christian be?

Will he tender his resignation or pick up his weapons against Jerusalem the home of his beloved brothers the apostles?

Exactly sir. I ran away. And you won the discussion. That is a beautiful one for me. I already concluded your case. Please read up.
Let's focus on the topic for which the topic was created. I clearly understand you now

No need for endless dragging since Jesus had interactions with The centurion, and other military personnel, and not for once did he preach against their proffession. Paul wrote countless books and Letters and Not for once did he denounce brethren in military profession or instruct them to resign. And they didn't bother to write it that Cornelius resigned from Military service.
We can theereby conclude that you are right. Cus you said so.

You win. Can we have peace now? Only your sect will enter the kingdom of God. Ok

cornelboy:

No verse says Cornelius remained in the military. I'm quite convinced that after the baptism he didn't go about killing people under the command of the Roman government.

Whatever the interpretation you give to the bolded is none of my concern. What I know is that a true Christian cannot engage in politics and military services.

Is working as a civil servant the same as engaging in politics?

Yes bro. We already concluded your case.
Please read up.

Ken4Christ:


There is nothing absolutely wrong with the message of prosperity. It's with the manner and ways it is presented.

God wants us to to be rich so we can help the poor and promote the gospel. But most people want to be rich so they can achieve their selfish goals.

I will be so rich to the point that I will empower thousands of people. I am not there yet but I know I will get there.

Those are pride themselves in how many jets they have and properties they have without helping the poor have missed it.

Today we will have our talk sir.

By the grace of God, I have become who I am today, A simple brother of Christ, Not judging, being understanding, not pride filled, not perfect, yet simple and straightforward.

I pray for grace that I should not fall, and not fail, even as I run this race of life.
I see and understand the main issue many of us have. The need to be proven as right, and others as wrong. That is why unending arguments is futile.

This Topic was not created To judge Jehovah witness organization or to show their wrongs or rights. It is however nice that at least I became clear about what you stand for as a sect
You have made ur points about why ONLY YOUR SECT will make heaven. Since according to you only you are doing God's will.
Despite the prove we showed u in John 6:40 that the Will of God is to believe in Jesus and be obedient to his precepts.
You still stand on ur point that the will of God is to fulfil the prophecy in Isaiah 2.
It's alright

You have made your point that a Christian must not join the army of any country. Or be politically involved whatsoever. Despite the fact that we showed u of the life of Cornelius who was a soldier and yet a holy spirit baptised member of the early church. Who was said to be God fearing yet you stand on your point that YOU ARE RIGHT and every other person and sect is WRONG.

That is what I call, ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. I take no joy in dragging anyone or showing off that I can quote the scriptures. I am only a student by grace of Christ.
We are free to live with our beliefs.
No need for unending arguments. I wish the JW folks well in their lifetime, may your wish come true.

Back to more important aspect of the Topic at hand.

cornelboy:

I specifically said politics and military services. Christians will definitely work and do business.

Where is the love when a Christian brother from Russia is killing another brother from Ukraine based on the commands of two immortal humans?

Study through the new testament again and you'd clearly see the modulus operandi of the early church.
Not engaging in politics and military services are some of the ways they are not part of this world.

Of course, we must be subject to authorities, you don't understand what that means?

If Nigeria legalized gay rights and transgenderism today, does that mean Christians should engage in the mad practices because the government legalized it?

What Paul taught is the same as what Jesus taught about "giving to Cesar what is Cesar's and to God what's God's".
As a good citizen, you must pay the tax, be a law abiding citizen, perform your duties and obligations etc.
God's will must definitely be the priority for a Christian.

Smiles. Yes you clearly said politics and military service. In fact you said Must not be involved in any form of government.
And I clearly told you that that must include those in civil service.
Cus those in Civil service are definitely involved in supporting the government in power.

That by the way.
I also clearly gave us a whole chapter showing cornelius a soldier who was upright and God for and who became converted to Christianity by Paul and Was baptised with water and the holy spirit. Yet he still remained a soldier and worked for God.

I have shown you a lot. But nevermind I clearly understand the problem

MaxInDHouse:


Only sin against Holy Spirit is unforgivable! Matthew 12:31-32

If only you're willing to learn!

🤣😆🤣😆🤣😆.who is talking about unforgivable or forgivable sins?

You are really an interesting case study.

You can continue in your sins as a JW . Don't worry you are covered🤣

achorladey:


Show us the command in your Bible where it says all early Christians were politically neutral and never participated in the military as stated word for word by Jesus himself.

Your lies and manipulations cannot be followed

Please beg him to show us o.

cornelboy:

Jesus, the apostles, the early church were all politically neutral and never participated in military services. They were only after the assignment Jesus gave them.
I already showed you a clear reasons why a true Christian cannot participate in politics or military services.

Matthew 28:20
[20]Teach these new disciples to obey all the commands I have given you. And be sure of this: I am with you always, even to the end of the age.”

All the commands are to be learned and obeyed. No room for cherry picking.

Smiles. That is the mistake you make.
The early church comprised of people who lived their lives as we all do now. They had business men, artisans etc.and. Yes they must have had soldiers and government officials in their midst.

Yes some of them were missionaries who moved around like Paul, but many were workers, just like you and I.

When you say Christians cannot participate in any government and MUST remain neutral in everyway, I hope u understand that anyone doing government job will contravene that stand?😆

Now what does the bible say about christians obeying authorities?
Let me help u.

In Titus 3:1

Remind them to be subject to rulers, to authorities, to be obedient, to be ready for every good deed,

In Roman 13

Every person is to be in subjection to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those which exist are established by God. Therefore whoever resists authority has opposed the ordinance of God; and they who have opposed will receive condemnation upon themselves. For rulers are not a cause of fear for good behavior, but for evil. Do you want to have no fear of authority? Do what is good and you will have praise from the same.

I can go on and On. Do you see that even as. A Christian you are obliged to serve and obey ruling authorities wherevvr you aware?

These were admonitions of Paul. I hope you don't consider them irrelevant😆

Ken4Christ:


Prosperity message is supported both in the old and new testament. But since you want me to limit it to the new testament, I will certainly do that. I actually have two books on the subject of prosperity. The first is titled; Scripture Keys to Prosperity while the second is titled, Prosperity Scriptures.

Let's look at a few scriptures in the New Testament on this subject;

3 John 2
Beloved, I wish above all things THAT THOU MAYEST PROSPER and be in health, even as thy soul prospereth.

2nd Corinthians 8:9
For ye know the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, that, though he was rich, yet for your sakes he became poor, that ye through his poverty might be rich.

Luke 6:38
Give, and it shall be given unto you; GOOD MEASURE, pressed down, and shaken together, and running over, shall men give into your bosom. For with the same measure that ye mete withal it shall be measured to you again.

The above verse says that you will get far bigger than what you give away. This is prosperity.

I have so many scriptures, at least up to 100 verses I can quote from the New Testament but time is not my friend right now.

God wants us to have money but he also wants us to be ready to release that money to help the poor.

Smiles.. I am coming sir. this discussion will bee well treated. Thank you for not backing down.

Porksupplyib:


We would be looking at the life of Cornelius.
Cornelius in the Bible was a centurion, a commander in the Italian Regiment of the Roman military. He lived in Caesarea.

ACT chapter 10;

1 There was a certain man in Caesarea called Cornelius, a centurion of the band called the Italian band,

2 A devout man, and one that feared God with all his house, which gave much alms to the people, and prayed to God alway.

3 He saw in a vision evidently about the ninth hour of the day an angel of God coming in to him, and saying unto him, Cornelius.

4 And when he looked on him, he was afraid, and said, What is it, Lord? And he said unto him, Thy prayers and thine alms are come up for a memorial before God.

5 And now send men to Joppa, and call for one Simon, whose surname is Peter:

6 He lodgeth with one Simon a tanner, whose house is by the sea side: he shall tell thee what thou oughtest to do.

7 And when the angel which spake unto Cornelius was departed, he called two of his household servants, and a devout soldier of them that waited on him continually;

8 And when he had declared all these things unto them, he sent them to Joppa.

9 On the morrow, as they went on their journey, and drew nigh unto the city, Peter went up upon the housetop to pray about the sixth hour:

10 And he became very hungry, and would have eaten: but while they made ready, he fell into a trance,

11 And saw heaven opened, and a certain vessel descending upon him, as it had been a great sheet knit at the four corners, and let down to the earth:

12 Wherein were all manner of fourfooted beasts of the earth, and wild beasts, and creeping things, and fowls of the air.

13 And there came a voice to him, Rise, Peter; kill, and eat.

14 But Peter said, Not so, Lord; for I have never eaten any thing that is common or unclean.

15 And the voice spake unto him again the second time, What God hath cleansed, that call not thou common.

16 This was done thrice: and the vessel was received up again into heaven.

17 Now while Peter doubted in himself what this vision which he had seen should mean, behold, the men which were sent from Cornelius had made enquiry for Simon's house, and stood before the gate,

18 And called, and asked whether Simon, which was surnamed Peter, were lodged there.

19 While Peter thought on the vision, the Spirit said unto him, Behold, three men seek thee.

20 Arise therefore, and get thee down, and go with them, doubting nothing: for I have sent them.

21 Then Peter went down to the men which were sent unto him from Cornelius; and said, Behold, I am he whom ye seek: what is the cause wherefore ye are come?

22 And they said, Cornelius the centurion, a just man, and one that feareth God, and of good report among all the nation of the Jews, was warned from God by an holy angel to send for thee into his house, and to hear words of thee.

23 Then called he them in, and lodged them. And on the morrow Peter went away with them, and certain brethren from Joppa accompanied him.

24 And the morrow after they entered into Caesarea. And Cornelius waited for them, and he had called together his kinsmen and near friends.

25 And as Peter was coming in, Cornelius met him, and fell down at his feet, and worshipped him.

26 But Peter took him up, saying, Stand up; I myself also am a man.

27 And as he talked with him, he went in, and found many that were come together.

28 And he said unto them, Ye know how that it is an unlawful thing for a man that is a Jew to keep company, or come unto one of another nation; but God hath shewed me that I should not call any man common or unclean.

29 Therefore came I unto you without gainsaying, as soon as I was sent for: I ask therefore for what intent ye have sent for me?

30 And Cornelius said, Four days ago I was fasting until this hour; and at the ninth hour I prayed in my house, and, behold, a man stood before me in bright clothing,

31 And said, Cornelius, thy prayer is heard, and thine alms are had in remembrance in the sight of God.

32 Send therefore to Joppa, and call hither Simon, whose surname is Peter; he is lodged in the house of one Simon a tanner by the sea side: who, when he cometh, shall speak unto thee.

33 Immediately therefore I sent to thee; and thou hast well done that thou art come. Now therefore are we all here present before God, to hear all things that are commanded thee of God.

34 Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons:

35 But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him.

36 The word which God sent unto the children of Israel, preaching peace by Jesus Christ: (he is Lord of all

37 That word, I say, ye know, which was published throughout all Judaea, and began from Galilee, after the baptism which John preached;

38 How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him.

39 And we are witnesses of all things which he did both in the land of the Jews, and in Jerusalem; whom they slew and hanged on a tree:

40 Him God raised up the third day, and shewed him openly;

41 Not to all the people, but unto witnesses chosen before God, even to us, who did eat and drink with him after he rose from the dead.

42 And he commanded us to preach unto the people, and to testify that it is he which was ordained of God to be the Judge of quick and dead.

43 To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins.

44 While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word.

45 And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost.

46 For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God. Then answered Peter,

47 Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we?

48 And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days.

Now I hope you know Cornelius was a gentile?

He was even said to be the first gentile to be Converted to Christianity.
Before his ordained meeting of Paul and his conversion, he was regarded to as a holy man. Who loved God and prayed to him.
His actions and righteousness was so noticed by GOD that even an angel of the Lord appeared to him in a vision, setting up the meeting with Paul.

Do you know Cornelius was regarded as God fearing even though he was a Soldier?

Do you know that even after his baptism and conversion and receiving the holy spirit he still remained in the intalian Army as a Centurion
?

Or you saw where Paul told him he MUST leave the army Job he was doing?

Please point me to it. 🤣

I find all ur dortrines interesting and a bit unfortunate how badly you have interpreted God's word to yourselves..

Well, I await that interesting quotation that shows Soldiers cannot be saved.

We would be looking at the life of Cornelius.
Cornelius in the Bible was a centurion, a commander in the Italian Regiment of the Roman military. He lived in Caesarea.

ACT chapter 10;

1 There was a certain man in Caesarea called Cornelius, a centurion of the band called the Italian band,

2 A devout man, and one that feared God with all his house, which gave much alms to the people, and prayed to God alway.

3 He saw in a vision evidently about the ninth hour of the day an angel of God coming in to him, and saying unto him, Cornelius.

4 And when he looked on him, he was afraid, and said, What is it, Lord? And he said unto him, Thy prayers and thine alms are come up for a memorial before God.

5 And now send men to Joppa, and call for one Simon, whose surname is Peter:

6 He lodgeth with one Simon a tanner, whose house is by the sea side: he shall tell thee what thou oughtest to do.

7 And when the angel which spake unto Cornelius was departed, he called two of his household servants, and a devout soldier of them that waited on him continually;

8 And when he had declared all these things unto them, he sent them to Joppa.

9 On the morrow, as they went on their journey, and drew nigh unto the city, Peter went up upon the housetop to pray about the sixth hour:

10 And he became very hungry, and would have eaten: but while they made ready, he fell into a trance,

11 And saw heaven opened, and a certain vessel descending upon him, as it had been a great sheet knit at the four corners, and let down to the earth:

12 Wherein were all manner of fourfooted beasts of the earth, and wild beasts, and creeping things, and fowls of the air.

13 And there came a voice to him, Rise, Peter; kill, and eat.

14 But Peter said, Not so, Lord; for I have never eaten any thing that is common or unclean.

15 And the voice spake unto him again the second time, What God hath cleansed, that call not thou common.

16 This was done thrice: and the vessel was received up again into heaven.

17 Now while Peter doubted in himself what this vision which he had seen should mean, behold, the men which were sent from Cornelius had made enquiry for Simon's house, and stood before the gate,

18 And called, and asked whether Simon, which was surnamed Peter, were lodged there.

19 While Peter thought on the vision, the Spirit said unto him, Behold, three men seek thee.

20 Arise therefore, and get thee down, and go with them, doubting nothing: for I have sent them.

21 Then Peter went down to the men which were sent unto him from Cornelius; and said, Behold, I am he whom ye seek: what is the cause wherefore ye are come?

22 And they said, Cornelius the centurion, a just man, and one that feareth God, and of good report among all the nation of the Jews, was warned from God by an holy angel to send for thee into his house, and to hear words of thee.

23 Then called he them in, and lodged them. And on the morrow Peter went away with them, and certain brethren from Joppa accompanied him.

24 And the morrow after they entered into Caesarea. And Cornelius waited for them, and he had called together his kinsmen and near friends.

25 And as Peter was coming in, Cornelius met him, and fell down at his feet, and worshipped him.

26 But Peter took him up, saying, Stand up; I myself also am a man.

27 And as he talked with him, he went in, and found many that were come together.

28 And he said unto them, Ye know how that it is an unlawful thing for a man that is a Jew to keep company, or come unto one of another nation; but God hath shewed me that I should not call any man common or unclean.

29 Therefore came I unto you without gainsaying, as soon as I was sent for: I ask therefore for what intent ye have sent for me?

30 And Cornelius said, Four days ago I was fasting until this hour; and at the ninth hour I prayed in my house, and, behold, a man stood before me in bright clothing,

31 And said, Cornelius, thy prayer is heard, and thine alms are had in remembrance in the sight of God.

32 Send therefore to Joppa, and call hither Simon, whose surname is Peter; he is lodged in the house of one Simon a tanner by the sea side: who, when he cometh, shall speak unto thee.

33 Immediately therefore I sent to thee; and thou hast well done that thou art come. Now therefore are we all here present before God, to hear all things that are commanded thee of God.

34 Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons:

35 But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him.

36 The word which God sent unto the children of Israel, preaching peace by Jesus Christ: (he is Lord of all

37 That word, I say, ye know, which was published throughout all Judaea, and began from Galilee, after the baptism which John preached;

38 How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him.

39 And we are witnesses of all things which he did both in the land of the Jews, and in Jerusalem; whom they slew and hanged on a tree:

40 Him God raised up the third day, and shewed him openly;

41 Not to all the people, but unto witnesses chosen before God, even to us, who did eat and drink with him after he rose from the dead.

42 And he commanded us to preach unto the people, and to testify that it is he which was ordained of God to be the Judge of quick and dead.

43 To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins.

44 While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word.

45 And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost.

46 For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God. Then answered Peter,

47 Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we?

48 And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days.

Cornelboy. I have an interesting bible passage I would love us to go through together. It has to do with your issue with christians being in thee army or being soldiers.
Are you ready?

MaxInDHouse:

This is where you're getting it all wrong!

JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES are like Israelites in ancient times they were not perfect humans on the planet back then but they know God's will and they did it!

🤣😆🤣😆🤣

So as far as you are a JW you can continue in your sin and still qualify for the kingdom of God?
Wonderful!🤣
You never cease to amaze me. 😆

cornelboy:

Believing in Christ is not just a feeling you get in your head or a mere confession with your mouth. It's actually learning and putting everything Jesus taught and commanded into practice.

For example, Jesus taught us to love our brothers, friends, neighbours and enemies and even pray for them, but the church I grew up in, CAC and some other Pentecostal churches like MFM, RCCG among others pray against their enemies and even pray for their death.
Isn't that against Jesus's teachings?

Most of these churches don't see anything wrong in their member joining the military. Obviously, military guys are just tools in the hands of evil politicians.

Imagine a Christian brother from Nigeria going to fight and kill another Christian in Niger. Who are they fighting for? Whose side would God support?
This is a serious problem.
Not only are they killing their enemies, they are killing their fellow Christian brothers also. So where's the love in killing your brothers, neighbours and enemies?

"Believing in christ is not just a feeling you get in your head."
You are absolutely right.

And if you read my posts well u should have read "Believing in Christ and obeying his precepts". It goes beyond just believing. You must obey. That is the will of God.

Christ preached LOVE. Love for even ones enemy and not only fellow brethren.
So yes, I agree that those who pray for the death of their enemies are wrong and need to restudy their bible. Now I didn't need to be a JW to know that.
That is what your Bible, and a good relationship with Christ and the holy spirit would teach you.
And millions of believers around the world's know this and practice it.
So this isn't anything "special".
So tell me, do you still believe only Jehovah witnesses are doing the will of God?
And will make the kingdom of God?

When even amoung Jehovah witness we have thousands to million still living in flesh and sin, while yet still forming "Most holy brethren" ?
Don't worry, I have many of you as colleagues. I see the life they live.

achorladey:


As in will of God is word for word what is in Isaiah and Micah

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

MaxInDHouse:


Jesus' disciples are one with the same line of thought! John 17:22

Satan is responsible for countless religions all claiming worshipers of Jesus with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines! Matthew 13:25

Exactly which includes your sect. The Jehovah witness organization.
Very contradictory teachings.

I can even say urs is the most contradictory!😆

MaxInDHouse:


So substantiate what exactly is the will of God so that everyone can see it clearly since you say some religionists are claiming they belong to Jesus yet they're not doing God's will and such groups will insist they're also worshiping Jesus! Matthew 7:21-23

I already did. Pleease stop wasting our precious time here. Read up if u skipped it. I dropped almost a whole chapter to support and Show the TRUTH according to Christ.

All u have ever done is run to the book of Isaiah

MaxInDHouse:


Ọmọ there are 41,000 different religions all claiming Christians today with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines all in the name of doing God's will.

That's exactly what Satan is using to blindfold you people {2Corinthians 4:4} yet with all your so called PRECEPT you will pick up weapons against your fellow religionists or support the killing your fellow religionists when politics and racism calls.

Ọmọ stop deceiving yourself the one and only thing Jesus came to teach us as God's will is what the prophets taught regarding oneness in the midst of God's people! Matthew 5:17

Stop being delusional 🤣

Who helped you with ur counting ?
Who is picking up weapons against fellow religionist? Which TRUE BODY OF CHRIST is supporting killings of Others.

Stop deceiving yourself bro.
You need real deliverance

The only way I will accept that Satan isn't deceiving you is if you can point out from the teachings of Christ, or Paul or any of the apostles that what is in Isaiah 2 is THE WILL OF GOD and that only one sect of christians or one church will make heaven!

MaxInDHouse:


Ọmọ there are 41,000 different religions all claiming Christians today with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines all in the name of doing God's will.

That's exactly what Satan is using to blindfold you people {2Corinthians 4:4} yet with all your so called PRECEPT you will pick up weapons against your fellow religionists or support the killing your fellow religionists when politics and racism calls.

Ọmọ stop deceiving yourself the one and only thing Jesus came to teach us as God's will is what the prophets taught regarding oneness in the midst of God's people! Matthew 5:17

Yes I agree that there are numerous sects with diiverse irellevant beliefs and dortrines, who claim to be TRUE christians.
We can also equally say Satan has blindfolded your sect to believing what you believe since even Jesus didnt preach or teach all what you are pushing as dortrines or THE WILL OF GOD.

MaxInDHouse:


So how are you (personally) doing GOD'S WILL today?

JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES are preaching zealously and industriously teaching throughout the earth for anyone who listens to us to drop weapons against their fellowman and embrace the Prince of Peace who commanded us to LOVE our neighbours {Mark 12:31} LOVE our enemies {Luke 6:27-28} and LOVE our fellow believers exactly as he live us! John 13:34-35

That's what each member of JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES is doing as we go visiting our neighbours to tell them what Christ taught us {Matthew 28:19-20} regarding peace making throughout the earth! Matthew 5:9

I may need to remind you of the fact that JW are not the only Christian sect evangelising the gospel.
Maybe you delude yourself to believe you are.

The gospel of Christ love and salvation is being spread across the world by true christians and believers.

The gospel you spread is only another Version which you chose to believe is truth but which we have no evidence of from any of Christ's teaching or that of any of the apostles. But which u hold on to because it is a prophecy in thee book of Isaiah.

The gospel of Christ is LOVE. Love your neighbor, love your enemies. Etc. That cannot be Overemphasised.
But all these talks of "dropping weapons" or interfering in wars of nations which you have built your Christianity around are what I am still yet to find in the gospel of Christ or in that of any of there apostles.

When you find it please point us there. Please spare us of the book of Isaiah or. micah.

achorladey:



Now it is, how he is doing God's will today?

Look here again

For my Father’s will is that everyone who looks to the Son and believes in him shall have eternal life, and I will raise them up at the last day.

Leave him. Let him remain in his intentional blindfolded state. I dont know why simple English is so difficult.

MaxInDHouse:


So how are you (personally) doing GOD'S WILL today?

JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES are preaching zealously and industriously teaching throughout the earth for anyone who listens to us to drop weapons against their fellowman and embrace the Prince of Peace who commanded us to LOVE our neighbours {Mark 12:31} LOVE our enemies {Luke 6:27-28} and LOVE our fellow believers exactly as he live us! John 13:34-35

That's what each member of JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES is doing as we go visiting our neighbours to tell them what Christ taught us {Matthew 28:19-20} regarding peace making throughout the earth! Matthew 5:9

You do the will of the father by believing in Christ and obeying his precepts.

Not by trying to fulfil one prophecy in the book of Isaiah.
Christ didnt preach or teach that.

I pray God will open your eyes as well as that of others trapped in your delusion

What is the will of God ? Let's take a peek into
John 6; 30- 40

30 So they asked him, “What sign then will you give that we may see it and believe you? What will you do? 31 Our ancestors ate the manna in the wilderness; as it is written: ‘He gave them bread from heaven to eat.”

32 Jesus said to them, “Very truly I tell you, it is not Moses who has given you the bread from heaven, but it is my Father who gives you the true bread from heaven. 33 For the bread of God is the bread that comes down from heaven and gives life to the world.”
Sir,” they said, “always give us this bread.”

35 Then Jesus declared, “I am the bread of life. Whoever comes to me will never go hungry, and whoever believes in me will never be thirsty. 36 But as I told you, you have seen me and still you do not believe. 37 All those the Father gives me will come to me, and whoever comes to me I will never drive away. 38 For I have come down from heaven not to do my will but to do the will of him who sent me. 39 And this is the will of him who sent me, that I shall lose none of all those he has given me, but raise them up at the last day. 40 For my Father’s will is that everyone who looks to the Son and believes in him shall have eternal life, and I will raise them up at the last day.”



For emphasis. Verse 40. "For the father's will is that everyone who looks to the Son and believes in him shall have eternal life, and I will raise them up at the last day."

🖕That is the undeniable word of Christ.

MaxInDHouse:

There are many Gods and their worshipers yapa but none of all those Gods can speak confidently about what will happen among their worshipers like JEHOVAH.
So when He promised that individuals from different geographical locations on this planet will form one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers using His word (Bible) that is what His only begotten Son came to establish as the Prince of Peace {Isaiah 9:6} Jesus made sure that he commissioned a movement that will take this teaching to all the corners of the earth {Matthew 28:19-20} and each of his disciples baptized will be his WITNESS that the Prince of Peace has come to establish the doing of God's will! Act 1:8

Exactly

MaxInDHouse:
God is LOVE! John 4:8

Worshipers of the same God must resolve all their disparities peacefully among themselves {Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3} that's what Jesus came to establish among faithful people as God's will!

That was what Jesus came to establish, but No evidence?🤣

The will of the father according to you is that there should be no war, no disparity among God's people.🤣

And that was what Christ came to establish but he said nothing about it? Neither did Paul say anything about such. And that is the will of God that will qualify Christians for the kingdom of God?

Wonderful!

Now I know the JW's problem 😆

MaxInDHouse:


I have given you enough if you're not ready to accept it's OK.
Just do me a favor:
Tell me one virtuous deed that no members of all other religions can't fulfil apart from what i just told you.
Remember that all their good deeds will be trashed if it's not in tune with Jesus' teachings! Isaiah 64:6

May you have PEACE!

No bro. You have given none. Give a quotation to back up the point that Jesus and The apostles said that the will of God( that will qualify men for the kingdom of God) is trying to fulfil what is in Isaiah 2.

Oya make it clear and Precise

MaxInDHouse:


That is exactly what all the Apostles stood for but if you're not really studious you won't get it clear.

Remember that Jesus COMMANDED his disciples to LOVE one another just as he love them {John 13:34-35} and they are to have the same line of thought {John 17:22 compare to 1Corinthians 1:10; Ephesians 4:3} that will not be possible if members of the Christian faith are into military services in their homeland because politicians will surely instigate then to pick up weapons against their brethren in other lands so they won't be able to fulfil God's will as found in the Bible book of Isaiah 2:2-4 and repeated at Micah 4:1-3

May you have PEACE!

That is what the Apostles stood for?
But you have no biblical quote to back it up. Only heresays and ur own imaginations?

Simply drop quotations to this and I will agree with u. Stop saying "if u are not studious you won't get it"🤣

That is just a hoodwinking.

Courz:


To answer your question, The main reason for this is because a lot of Churches are One Man Businesses and the motive behind their existence is not to bring more Souls to Jesus. And you can tell their motives by what they like to preach about. You will hear a lot of outrageous teachings coming from different churches that do not include living a Good life and having good values There is too much focus on prosperity. A lot of people also like to hear what they want to hear. If a genuine Pastor preaches repentance and how to live a good life, watch the population of his congregation. They won't be many. I have seen some Good Pastors who are not after having a crowd of people and at the same time they teach their members a lot of things about Life. I personally have learnt a lot from some sermons online that have benefited me. So, not all Pastors are the same.

There are Pastors who are involved in Spiritism with the aim of having a crowd of people attending their Church. The more people they have, the more money they get. They know this. I have read testimonies from Pastors who made pacts with entities and have unspeakable items buried in their Church. This is real. If you do your research, you will see stories from Whistle-blowers. So, imagine the entities trooping into that church every Sunday. It isn't everyone you see in the Church that are Christians. Some are there for Missions. If the foundation of the Church is this, you won't see something good coming out of the people in that Church. The good thing is not all people are the same. There are people who are genuine with a Hunger to please God and Jesus. Unfortunately, they may find themselves in the wrong Church.

A lot of Pastors are just mere Motivational speakers. Once a man has the intention of using his church as a source of revenue, he will have no positive influence on his members. Greed will come in. Once the Head is corrupt, the rest of the people will be so. Sometimes, the people are a reflection of their religious Leader.

The Good thing is Almighty God and Jesus deal with people individually and not by denomination or Church. God already knows there are innocent people trapped in these Churches. This is why Jesus said God is looking for people who will serve him in Spirit and Truth without a strict attachment to denominations or religion. God isn't looking for people who look to their denomination for Salvation.

You have spoken well.
I actually do believe Africans (or should we say Nigerian) have succeeded in creating their own form of Christianity, which sits well with them. And this is reflecting in our lives as a people.

We imposed who we are on Christianity and refused to allow Christianity and the true gospel of Christ impose itself on us.
Thus, even though we claaim to be "devoted christians" we are still the Very same people we used to be.
The selfish, greedy, material, wicked individuals. Only a very few are truly an exception.

So despite our over religiousity we are still the same people

MaxInDHouse:


I'm really glad that you truly want to grasp that prophecy to the details and for doing so i say "may the true God bless you abundantly for considering the doing of His will" Malachi 3:16

First of all the scriptures say:
"Nations will not lift up weapons neither will they learn war anymore" Isaiah 2:4

Now remember when God promised Abraham that nations will come out of him {Genesis 12:2} Abraham never had a child at that time so let's apply the same scripture on each member of Jehovah's Witnesses found in different geographical locations on this planet:

Each of them is hearing the same promise as he OBEY the instruction from God's only approved son not to raise weapons as a means of settling disputes {Matthew 26:52} and this has helped us to stand out throughout the world so when members of other religions are supporting their politicians to fight and kill one another Jehovah's Witnesses are saying:
"Our Master, Lord and King Christ Jesus has commanded us never to raise weapons against anyone to settle disputes"

No member of Jehovah's Witnesses no matter the nation you can find us will support wars in any form so when members of other religions are found in the military services learning wars Jehovah's Witnesses are in the streets preaching zealously and industriously teaching that God's only approved Son has commanded us to stop using weapons to resolve issues. Matthew 28:19-20

Instead of building weapons God's people are spending billions of dollars to make Bibles and literatures to use in teaching their neighbours how to apply what God's Son said!

So when Jesus said:

"bring these enemies of mine here who did not want me to become king over them and execute them in front of me" Luke 19:27

He was referring to all those claiming they know God but learning how to go to other nations and KILL {2Timothy 3:5} not only their enemies {Luke 6:27-28} but also their so called fellow believers their supposed neighbours {Mark 12:31} that they should LOVE just as Jesus did! John 13:34-35

That's why Jesus said he will tell them that he never knew them! Matthew 7:23

Who told you members of other religion or other church sect are following/supporting politicians to wage wars ? Are you being delusional or you just enjoy hearing urself speak?

So the will of God that JW are Doing that will qualify only them for the kingdom of God is that they are trying to fulfil a chapter in Isaiah🤣
That is the will of God for christians ?

Ok let me ask you, why was this prophecy (you hold so dearly as the "Will of God for christians" )not preached by Paul and all these apostles? Why did Christ not preach of it as the Will of the father?

May God deliver you.