Now, since the origin of our talk was about. The verse in Matt 7 which U quoted earlier.

Let's take a trip into the Bible and see exactly what it says about God's will for christians.

A quick peep into Mark 3, from verse 31.

"31 Then Jesus’ mother and brothers arrived. Standing outside, they sent someone in to call him. 32 A crowd was sitting around him, and they told him, “Your mother and brothers are outside looking for you.”

33 “Who are my mother and my brothers?” he asked.

34 Then he looked at those seated in a circle around him and said, “Here are my mother and my brothers! 35 Whoever does God’s will is my brother and sister and mother.”


Whoever does God's will is my brother, sister and mother.

That was christ jesus talking about God's will.

He was the same person who was quoted. In
Matthew 7:21-23 "Not everyone who says to me 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father in heaven.

So what is the will of God?

What was the will of God he was talking about then?
This is the question you must answer truthfully. Cus it seems it is where all the confusion for your sect lies.

I am definitely sure it was not this jamboree of "Destroying weapons" you are talking about.

I will continue.

MaxInDHouse:


In the beginning God's will is for humans to fill this planet and live as one big and happy family globally:

“Be fruitful and become many, fill the earth and subdue it, and have in subjection the fish of the sea and the flying creatures of the heavens and every living creature that is moving on the earth.” Genesis 1:28

Satan led a rebellion against God and the first human pair joined him that's why God stepped aside for Adam and his descendants to see the consequences of rebellion against God's sovereignty.

Jesus came to unite faithful people throughout the earth so that they can start doing what God purposed in the beginning!

How can one man bring people from different geographical locations under the heavens together to fulfil this will of God?

So Jesus started by gathering Jews and trained them to become zealous preachers and industrious teachers of God's will {Mark 1:17} they are to take Jesus' teachings to all the corners of the earth {Matthew 28:19-20} so that individuals having the same line of thought regarding God's will may worship as one {John 17:22} they will be the evidence that Jesus who is the promised Prince of Peace {Isaiah 9:6} has come and fulfilled his earthly mission of laying down the foundation of subject under God's kingdom! Act 1:8

So what is God's will that no other religion can do except JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES?

God promised through Isaiah that towards the time when God will send angels to wipe out unrighteousness on this planet He will send His Holy Spirit to help in gathering faithful people throughout the world under one umbrella, they will start using God's word to settle all their disparities peacefully among themselves, divert their resources into the production of food and information materials, erased the making, buying, selling and usage of weapons and vow never to raise weapons against anyone again! Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3

So when Jesus was laying this foundation his Jewish listeners found it really difficult to agree with him because they wanted to dominate the world thinking that with Jesus there is no nation that should be able to stand in their way not to talk of Rome that was dominating them back then.

Today only Jehovah's Witnesses are zealously preaching and industriously teaching throughout the earth about God's kingdom and making all their members to fulfil what was written in that Bible book regarding God's will for mankind to speak as if we're one family! Zephaniah 3:9

All others are still fighting and killing one another due to politics and racism! Revelations 6:3-4


But if you know any other religion that's working hard to erase the making, buying, selling and usage of weapons in the minds of their members please let me know! Isaiah 54:17

This is more serious than i thought , but I will be patient and Ask my questions. Now endeavour to answer directly.
Remember I asked you a question, WHAT IS THE WILL OF GOD WHICH JW ARE DOING, BUT WHiCH OTHER CHURCHES ARE NOT?
And your answer from what I can gather is that you are Trying to fulfill one prophecy in the book of Isaiah.
Is that the will of God for christians for which they will be judged by?
It's alright. Well, Let's analyse the Bible Passages you quoted.


Lets start by quoting Isaiah 2;

2
This is what Isaiah son of Amoz saw concerning Judah and Jerusalem:

In the last days

the mountain of the Lord’s temple will be established
as the highest of the mountains;
it will be exalted above the hills,
and all nations will stream to it.

3 Many peoples will come and say,

“Come, let us go up to the mountain of the Lord,
to the temple of the God of Jacob.
He will teach us his ways,
so that we may walk in his paths.”
The law will go out from Zion,
the word of the Lord from Jerusalem.
4 He will judge between the nations
and will settle disputes for many peoples.
They will beat their swords into plowshares
and their spears into pruning hooks.
Nation will not take up sword against nation,
nor will they train for war anymore.

5 Come, descendants of Jacob,
let us walk in the light of the Lord.


Now let's analyse this.
Firstly,

"Nations will not take up swords against nations, not train for war anymore."

Now which work is JW doing to erase the making buying and selling of weapons in the world?
Please tell us. Cus last time I checked atomic weapons are still being produced. So try explain how JW are fulfilling "Nations will not take up weapons/swords against nations"

You also said, and I quote;
"all other churches are Still fighting and killing one another due to politics and rascism"

Please which church do u know where they are killing one another and engaging in rascism? cus I don't know of Any

MaxInDHouse:

Most of you just want to hear others tell you what will make you feel comfortable so there's no need arguing over religions promoting materialism.
However God's ORGANIZATION has a duty and that's what Jesus meant when he emphasized on the doing of God's will:

“Not everyone saying to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter into the Kingdom of the heavens, but only the one doing the will of my Father who is in the heavens will. Many will say to me in that day: ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and expel demons in your name, and perform many powerful works in your name?’ And then I will declare to them: ‘I never knew you! Get away from me, you workers of lawlessness!’ Matthew 7:21-23

The highlighted in blue is what makes Jehovah's Witnesses a group that everyone needs to join because you can't possibly do God's will today if you're not one of Jehovah's Witnesses!

Wonderful quotation . Matt 7:21
"Not everyone saying to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter into the Kingdom of the heavens, but only the one doing the will of my Father who is in the heavens."

Now what are the will of the father in heaven?
Which other Christian sects don't do but which JW do?
Let's discuss this clearly. Since you have highlighted it in blue.

MaxInDHouse:


I have lots of fans on this forum, few love and respect me, some are my secret admirers, but the majority hate me because i stands firm for God's organization.
Those standing to be corrected knows that i didn't wake up one day to become a competent Bible student i got all my inspiration through the organization of Jehovah's Witnesses.
So whenever doesn't want to subject himself or herself to the organization can't be my friend because i will forever continue to tell all admirers that they can become better Bible students than Maximus if they subject to the teachings of JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES.
Well that is what Kobo doesn't want to do!

Competent Bible student 🤣
Issorait

Well, when you are done hyping urself and blowing your own trumpet, I hope you will listen. No one hates you. The fact that you don't share the same belief with someone else doesn't mean they hate you.
However , when you face a group and tell them they are wrong and you are the only right sect, you are propagating hate. Why haven't you gone to do that to the Islamic community? I am sure you won't.

In all we do, endeavour to preach love and respect people's belief .

Even if you feel or know (according to your belief) that they are wrong.

If you JW will do that you won't have a problem

At the end of the day, your judgement won't be by the church or sect you belong to, it will be individual.
No one Will be judged specially because he is JW or because he is Deeperlife.

Even if you are a JW and u are found wanting you will face the consequences.

So cease preaching church

MaxInDHouse:


I have lots of fans on this forum, few love and respect me, some are my secret admirers, but the majority hate me because i stands firm for God's organization.
Those standing to be corrected knows that i didn't wake up one day to become a competent Bible student i got all my inspiration through the organization of Jehovah's Witnesses.
So whenever doesn't want to subject himself or herself to the organization can't be my friend because i will forever continue to tell all admirers that they can become better Bible students than Maximus if they subject to the teachings of JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES.
Well that is what Kobo doesn't want to do!

God's organization 🤣
No one hate you bro. You are the ones preaching the gospel of hate. I asked u, why not correct her on her wrong posts. Instead. Of supporting her movement. You say u are an inspiration 🤣

The erroneous teachings that those who are poor must be sinners is part of our problems today.

That is the result of ur prosperity gospel.

Ken4Christ:


There is nothing absolutely wrong with the message of prosperity. It's with the manner and ways it is presented.

God wants us to to be rich so we can help the poor and promote the gospel. But most people want to be rich so they can achieve their selfish goals.

I will be so rich to the point that I will empower thousands of people. I am not there yet but I know I will get there.

Those are pride themselves in how many jets they have and properties they have without helping the poor have missed it.

"God wants us to be rich" please provide a quote to support that.

We are all learning.

The problem with ur prosperity message is the teaching and mindset that "if you are serving God faithfully ,you will be Rich.
You confuse a lot with Christianity

Please quote me a tangible Bible reference to substanciate prosperity gospel in Christianity.

Mind you, the entire Bible is not Christianity. So don't go and start referencing Abraham.

Christianity is mirroring Christ, his precepts and Teachings.

MaxInDHouse:


The mistake most of you people are making is what is influencing Kobo's comments.
She has been influenced by my comments but she doesn't want to subject herself to the same line of thought with JWs.
So she is never one of Jehovah's Witnesses it's my comments that has molded her that's why most people often think i and Kobo are the same person while others feels she's one of Jehovah's Witnesses.

Kobojunkie is not JW? Wonders shall never end.
Then if she has been influenced by ur comments, and she makes erroneous comments that makes her look like a confused individual, are You not supposed to correct her?
Since u are the role model JW

MaxInDHouse:


I am Maximus one of Jehovah's Witnesses the other person is not my brother or sister in the faith so ask him or her where he or she belongs.

Jehovah's Witnesses believe that without Paul no gentile has any connection with Christ Jesus because Jesus specifically chose Paul to connect people of the nations so if anyone say he or she will not comply with Paul's letter such a person is not a Christian from the viewpoint of Jehovah's Witnesses!

Wonderful! so Kobojunkie is no longer Jehovah witness?🤣
Why are you denying your brother?

MaxInDHouse:


The highlighted shows that you know nothing about God's people today because you can never ever find any of our publication where a single of Paul's letter is undermined!

Then it must be either you and kobojunkie are there ones who just come to this forum to argue offpoint and say unspeakable stuffs to prove your points.

I can remember the day a person dropped a passage on damages of sexual immoralities. Kobojunkie called him a liar.

MaxInDHouse:
Jesus said:

"By their FRUITS you will know" Matthew 7:15-20

Before Satan got angry the world was under his reign yet he was managing the little way he could but after Jesus' earthly mission Satan realized that his destruction is getting close so he began initiating his own agents right in the midst of those claiming CHRISTIANS {Matthew 13:25} it's their growth that's felt globally today! 2Timothy 3:1-5

Why?

Because Satan wants to blacklist Jesus' disciples so he went ahead to initiate many false prophets all claiming ministers of light {2Corinthians 11:14} if you look critically at the things happening in the world today you will agree with me that 90% of atrocities committed are carried out by religionists claiming they know Jesus either Muslims or Christians while atheists, agnostics, Judaists, Buddhists, Hindus and Traditionalists now seems better than those attributing their form of religion to Abraham.

Well it's a sacred secret for another day.

Know that only those PRACTICING what Jesus taught are on God's side no matter how nice, kind or generous a person is all their gestures are like excrement before the true God! Isaiah 64:6

If you want to know more about the secret i'm with you!

How do you chose when to quote from the epistles of Paul at one time, while yet at another time say Paul's teachings are irrelevant and don't hold water as compared to Christ's teachings?

Is it some form of confusion of your sect or what exactly ?

OPICANTO2223:
You should also ask why do we have many mosques in Afghanistan and many middle eastern countries plus Nigerian, but corruption have eaten deep the bone marrow deep.

That is the point of the discussion.
What is so different about Nigeria's case ?

Is it the people?

Ken4Christ:


The church has deviated from the ancient path set by the early church:

1. Most churches don't preach Christ anymore. Rather, they preach their pastor and extol him as god.

2. Most pastors don't live by examples anymore.

3. Most churches don't preach moral messages anymore. Only sweet messages that the people want to hear.

4. No planned follow up and visitations on new souls to build them up.

5. No genuine love amongst the brethren anymore that should inspire people to come to Christ.

6. The internet world is corrupting the minds of our young ones faster than the church is affecting their lives.

7. Some churches are purely established as business centers to defraud gullible souls.


We need revival in the church. We need to discover the ancient path. We need to get away from materialism and focus more on the things of heaven.

May God deliver the church from worldliness in the mighty name of Jesus. Amen.

You have made a lot of points that I agree with.

But let's talk about Materialism.
That has been the greatest undoing of True religion. The minute the church started preaching "wealth" or "financial prosperity" as the evidence of serving God or living a holy life, a lot changed.

This is a question we all should attempt.

It is interesting to see thousands( if not millions) of people step out of their homes on a beautiful Sunday morning like this, in beautiful attires, heading to church. Very same way we See other sets of believers trooping to Mosques accross the country on Fridays.

The display of faith is so beautiful to watch, as if they are being pulled by one unseen supernatural force, that compels them, which is Invisible to the naked eye. Yet it becomes confusing when you realise the fact that these very same millions of "believers" are responsible for untold wickedness and corruption in every level.

The huge question is WHY IS THIS SO?

Is it the religious centres or is it the people?
Or how can a people who claim to love God, do the complete reverse of what they profess?

Lol

achorladey:


You will see him boast about military intelligence and yet he simply don't know when his intelligence are exposed as foolish and insanities peddling

🤣

achorladey:


After all it is of no relevance

Abi na

MaxInDHouse:

Jesus has just one group doing his father's will and it's important we IDENTIFY that group in the midst of thousands of sects all claiming worshipers of God with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines!

Exactly🤣

MaxInDHouse:


Your question is of no relevance my boy!

If you don't understand the meaning of what i said then it shows you know nothing!

Exactly. It is of no relevance🤣🤣since you obviously can't answer. Keep deceiving yourself

MaxInDHouse:


My friend go after the GIFTS we are working at the FRUIT! Matthew 7 16-18

Lol. When someone avoids a question he is being asked, it is either because he has no answer to it, or he founds out he will be shown guilty in the answer he provides.

I know one of the above 2 is the case. Enjoy bro.
But an advice, stop fooling yourself with the mindset that Jehovah witness is the only or true christian church. In fact you are showing yourselves to be fake with your attitude.

MaxInDHouse:


The first century Christians weren't members of different religions claiming denominations rather they have the same line of thought {John 17:22; 1Corinthians 1:10; Ephesians 4:3} that's known to all observers that's why they were referred to as CHRISTIANS! Act 11:26

So mention your religion for everyone to know what you believe don't hide under anonymous claiming denominations there's no such thing in true religion!

Uncle that is not the question I asked you.
Read again and carefully answer the question this time around.

Dtruthspeaker:


Just say you have no answer. Your attempt to turn it on me is in vain for clearly all these Laws you stated we already do them. No one announces 'i am a witch". No ibo man worshipped his Amadioha in Sango land. You do sneaky sneaky to have sex with a person's daughter so that you do not get into trouble. All these contained in The Law.

So just say that you could not refute my response so you thought to switch the burden on me but E no work!

So rest. There is nothing valid for you to say.

Your name is complete opposite of what you are.
You dey lie Wella.
Uneccesary lies sef

We are talking of practicing mosaic laws as Christian you are saying we were already practicing them culturally.
You and who was practicing mosaic laws culturally? stop lying to prove your points.

We are talking of mosaic laws in church. Of which tithing is. My point is why bring out only tithing? Kuku practice everything. Kill witches, stone people caught fornicating. Etc. The laws are numerous. If you say you are under the law, practice every one of them well.

kurlz:


Don't stress yourself, let her learn from experience, they don't tell a child not to put hand in fire when the fire burns the child he will learn, so leave her to work she will start complaining and quit by herself because she may not be able to meet up with time, stress, shores, kids care, pressure....... And may not be able to condole how she will be treated when working under someone. You are even stressing it too much let her work under someone and learn by her self, it's just for a little while.

Well, it won't always happen that way. If what he is saying about his wife is true, she may not be willing to quit even when the career is tough.

phemy36:


May God bless you 💯. I don't understand the kind of female we have this day. Their thinking is shallow

I seriously tire. They want to be independent , push a career etc. That is the new trend. A man has set you up enough for you to grow and still be able to manage the home, he is catering for the finances of the home and all, but you just want to dive into the labour pool.
Well, it is well.

Dtruthspeaker:


And which of these are we not under? Are you not in trouble when you are caught having sex with the daughter of a man whom you have not married?

Or when your neighbour is a witch are you not agitated and concerned?

Or if you see a man fûcking a goat won't you bash him?

We already had all the Laws with us even before the White bandits brought the bible and we were already obeying them.

Oga stop whining yourself sir. Your cultural laws are way different from the mosaic laws which u are pushing.

I asked you a question you refused to answer. How many sorceress have u killed?

Your cultural laws do not kill people serving or worshipping other gods. Stop twisting the script .

Just say that you enjoy the tithing laws because it deals with money. [center][/center]

Porksupplyib:


Let's take a trip into the laws which you want to put urself under.

Exodus 22, let's start from
16
If a man seduces a virgin who is not pledged to be married and sleeps with her, he must pay the bride-price, and she shall be his wife. 17 If her father absolutely refuses to give her to him, he must still pay the bride-price for virgins.

18 “Do not allow a sorceress to live.

19 “Anyone who has sexual relations with an animal is to be put to death.

20 “Whoever sacrifices to any god other than the Lord must be destroyed.[e]

21 “Do not mistreat or oppress a foreigner, for you were foreigners in Egypt.

22 “Do not take advantage of the widow or the fatherless. 23 If you do and they cry out to me, I will certainly hear their cry. 24 My anger will be aroused, and I will kill you with the sword; your wives will become widows and your children fatherless.

25 “If you lend money to one of my people among you who is needy, do not treat it like a business deal; charge no interest. 26 If you take your neighbor’s cloak as a pledge, return it by sunset, 27 because that cloak is the only covering your neighbor has. What else can they sleep in? When they cry out to me, I will hear, for I am compassionate.

28 “Do not blaspheme God[f] or curse the ruler of your people.

29 “Do not hold back offerings from your granaries or your vats.[g]

“You must give me the firstborn of your sons. 30 Do the same with your cattle and your sheep. Let them stay with their mothers for seven days, but give them to me on the eighth day.

31 “You are to be my holy people. So do not eat the meat of an animal torn by wild beasts; throw it to the dogs.

This is less than a hundredth of the laws which was given to the isrealites. Among which is Tithing.
Since you so love the laws please endevour to pick everyone of them out and practice them so that you won't be punished by God.

Take verse 18 for example. How many sorceress have you killed?

Verse 20, how many worshippers of other God's have you destroyed?

How many did Paul and the early church gather up and kill?

I find it interesting that people claim to have the bible, but just refuse to read for themselves. You are not practicing mosaic laws. You are Christians. Read the scriptures and see what was practiced by the foundational christians. If Moses laws and life was good enough, Christ won't have come. Christ won't have died for the world.

Well, it is left to you to do as you please with your life and salvation.

Dtruthspeaker:


Why have you taken it (ad hominem) personal? If you do not want to obey The Law is it not you who bears the consequences? Hapumaka.

Let's take a trip into the laws which you want to put urself under.

Exodus 22, let's start from
16
If a man seduces a virgin who is not pledged to be married and sleeps with her, he must pay the bride-price, and she shall be his wife. 17 If her father absolutely refuses to give her to him, he must still pay the bride-price for virgins.

18 “Do not allow a sorceress to live.

19 “Anyone who has sexual relations with an animal is to be put to death.

20 “Whoever sacrifices to any god other than the Lord must be destroyed.[e]

21 “Do not mistreat or oppress a foreigner, for you were foreigners in Egypt.

22 “Do not take advantage of the widow or the fatherless. 23 If you do and they cry out to me, I will certainly hear their cry. 24 My anger will be aroused, and I will kill you with the sword; your wives will become widows and your children fatherless.

25 “If you lend money to one of my people among you who is needy, do not treat it like a business deal; charge no interest. 26 If you take your neighbor’s cloak as a pledge, return it by sunset, 27 because that cloak is the only covering your neighbor has. What else can they sleep in? When they cry out to me, I will hear, for I am compassionate.

28 “Do not blaspheme God[f] or curse the ruler of your people.

29 “Do not hold back offerings from your granaries or your vats.[g]

“You must give me the firstborn of your sons. 30 Do the same with your cattle and your sheep. Let them stay with their mothers for seven days, but give them to me on the eighth day.

31 “You are to be my holy people. So do not eat the meat of an animal torn by wild beasts; throw it to the dogs.

This is less than a hundredth of the laws which was given to the isrealites. Among which is Tithing.
Since you so love the laws please endevour to pick everyone of them out and practice them so that you won't be punished by God.

Dtruthspeaker:


The Law is always The Law even if people disobey it. No different from The Law of fornication (whorrdom) or tattoos which people are now accustomed to disregarding them.

But The Law is still The Law and the op was asking bout The Law.

Lol. Which law ?
How many laws are you following? Should I post a few for you so that you know if you are following them or if you are a SINNER?

When I hear people say "support your wife, support your wife in WHATEVER she wants to do etc I just smile.
You are all interesting people.

You forget the fact that the woman cannot always have her way as it was when she was a spinster. In marriage things are different. The woman will not always be logical. The home is a business on its own and it must not suffer.

Take for instance she gets a job in Abuja and they live in Lagos, you are saying the man should support her and let her go to Abuja?
You are all joking. Or maybe she says she want to be an actress and the man doesn't like it, he should still allow her?

Marriage comes with lots of sacrifices. And the 2 must sacrifice to make it work. This era of feminine push for career may work for some homes, but it won't work for every home.

Well, I blame the man. This is a talk they should have had a long time ago even before marriage. Now it will be a tough nut to crack

coputa:
Despite the introduction of christainity in the African continent, it is still backward and ravaged by poverty

They refused to bring technology to Africa, because it will actually take Africans to heaven.

Unfortunately your allegations are baseless.
When the missionaries brought religion, they equally pushed education. They built numerous schools and ensured the black man get literate. Ensured schools were free for the children to attend. Etc That was the foundation for scientific development amongst others.

You cannot just say the only pushed religion and nothing more.

Technology is evolving by the day, nobody will help you to keep up with the international race if you don't help yourself.

stanlink:
Hello I'm just think if I will get salvation if I indulge in sexual activities early on a Sunday morning before going for service, the thought of guilt is all over my head although I'm married someone please advise

You are married, thus your sexual activity with your wife isn't a sin.

And lest I forget, your going to church isnt to seek salvation. It is to commune with the brethren. You should be way past seeking salvation already.