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Re: Is God Wicked For Doing This? by Nobody: 11:20pm On Apr 21, 2021 |
kingxsamz: Shame unto anyone that the existence of the Earth is ascribed to. The Earth was never amazing and it will never be. The Earth has always been a ridiculous structure and it will always be a ridiculous structure. Nobody is an intelligent design. Life is absurd. 2 Likes |
Re: Is God Wicked For Doing This? by harmargedon: 11:33pm On Apr 21, 2021 |
Dtruthspeaker:how does this even make sense.
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Re: Is God Wicked For Doing This? by shadeyinka(m): 4:56am On Apr 22, 2021 |
kingxsamz:When people are found to be too stupid, you can only treat them to the kind of class that befits them! 2 Likes |
Re: Is God Wicked For Doing This? by shadeyinka(m): 4:59am On Apr 22, 2021 |
FOLYKAZE:His parents too inherited it from their first ancestors hence, they weren't the primary cause of his blindness. Was the blindness of the man not cured by God!? Then Gods works is made manifest in his life! 1 Like |
Re: Is God Wicked For Doing This? by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:07am On Apr 22, 2021 |
The problem ATHEISTS and AGNOSTICS do have with our book (Bible) is listening to all Dickson and Harryson claiming they're teachers of God's word. Most of you guys studied in the universities and though you know that each lecturer teaches certain subjects you just feel like blaming God after you've taken in junks from misinformed Churchgoers and their title chiefs (Pastors) As an agent of the intelligence i know that even in the military we have fields of specialization though we all know how to aim with guns but each department has different skills, so i wonder how could it be that all these different religions contradicting themselves could be Christians for real? It's either one must be real while others are fake or everything is DELUSION. So i set out to do my findings. First i need to know what should be the end result of this faith if rightly applied? You and i know that the end result of *Farming is abundance of food *Tailoring is production of fitted clothings *Policies is orderliness So what should be the end result of the knowledge found in the Bible? (if there is any at all) I discovered that the book talked about man created in the likeness of the Creator {Genesis 1:26} this means that unlike animals that only live by instinct humans are endowed with the knowledge to make things better or/and make better things! The big question now is WHY THEN IS THE EARTH FILLED WITH TROUBLE IF HUMANS CAN TRAVEL OUTSIDE EARTH? That's how i came to the conclusion that the book (Bible) wasn't a Science textbook so i don't need to ask for solution to problems resulting from pollution or dirtiness in the Bible rather this book is like a manual from the Creator to guide mankind on how we can live peacefully and happily with our neighbours! So the group of persons having the right application of what this book says will be able to solve problems resulting from social conflicts devastating all human societies within their own gathering! Isaiah 2:2-4 compare to Micah 4:1-3 Therefore it's not about solving problems resulting from mismanagement, pollution or misconduct but how people deal with people! Then i began my research on all the religions on this planet claiming they know God, none meet up with this requirement they're all a failure. But just as i am about to settle with ATHEISM i prayed to this so called God at least for the last time to prove Himself anyhow He wish (if He exist at all) from that moment Jehovah's Witnesses started coming to disturb me. At first i never thought their coming could make any sense but at last i decided to start asking them questions based on what i read in the Bible and what i had been taught about God. To my shocking surprise everything turned upside down as if i am now reading a new book totally different from the same Bible i've known all my life! JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES changed my orientation completely and i began seeing the Bible from a new perspective. That's when i realized that this people have used this book (Bible) to form one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers globally! So if all the people on this planet are JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES there will be no wars since they have squashed Racism and Politics, poverty will disappear since their GB (who rules them globally will handle all the resources) crime will reduce drastically (if any) because whoever goes against the rules will be excommunicated and no one could stand such if everyone around you are JWs, people will always have something to rejoice about as everyone will be his/her brother's keeper since they always care for the mental, physical, emotional and social wellbeing of their neighbours. So if you're doubting the existence of a Creator i understand how you feel but let me tell you that with JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES Organization on this planet i have no doubt again that there is someone somewhere responsible for life and He really care about the mental, physical, emotional and social wellbeing of the creatures He made in His likeness! Isaiah 48:17-18 May you have PEACE! FOLYKAZE: |
Re: Is God Wicked For Doing This? by Image123(m): 10:15am On Apr 22, 2021 |
LordReed: i guess that's me in this case. You are yet to give an example of God as a standard for God. If for example, you make a complaint about a thing or person or position, there should be a standard or gauge to measure by. If you say this not a real phone or device, it's likely because you have an idea of what a real phone is. So when you say God is not God(Omniwhatever, Perfect, Eternal etc). It reasonably should be because you have a better definition or example. Till date, you are yet to give a better definition or example. Therefore it's absurd of you to question the fittings of godly attributes. The other way we can help is to compare known to unknown, or visible to invisible. While humans are not animals or trees for instance, we sometimes compare or use for illustrative purposes. Like when you say the man is a lion, or she's a dog, or he's like a goat, or pig. You have an idea of the connection/connotation. We compare man and God because the Bible makes such comparisons/illustration several times. Also man is made in the image of God. When you say God should not hate His enemies, you should be able to justify it. If you are doing something, what justification do you have for another not to do same. This is the summary of what we discussed before you took your tail, only for you to come and tell your minion this nonsense months/weeks later. 1 Like |
Re: Is God Wicked For Doing This? by LordReed(m): 11:06am On Apr 22, 2021 |
Image123: LMAO! Took which tail? Bwahahahahaha! You say you have an omniwhatever god then you want to compare him to a none omniwhatever being and you believe you are making sense? LMAO! 2 Likes |
Re: Is God Wicked For Doing This? by Image123(m): 2:03pm On Apr 22, 2021 |
LordReed: You are yet to establish any sane reason for making claims. On what basis do you claim that God cannot/should not do something that you do? 1 Like |
Re: Is God Wicked For Doing This? by LordReed(m): 2:41pm On Apr 22, 2021 |
Image123: Where did I make such a claim? 2 Likes |
Re: Is God Wicked For Doing This? by Image123(m): 3:00pm On Apr 22, 2021 |
LordReed: God should not hate His enemies. 1 Like |
Re: Is God Wicked For Doing This? by LordReed(m): 3:21pm On Apr 22, 2021 |
Image123: Where did I say that? 1 Like |
Re: Is God Wicked For Doing This? by FOLYKAZE(m): 4:27pm On Apr 22, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse: The premises of this discussion is not centred on the existence of God. It is much of the position that of God on the suffering of mankind. You will agree with me, like every witness out there, that man is suffering. The JW have tried to excuse God away from the suffering of mankind, using passages from the bible. But all those answers provided are not satisfactory enough. It is therefore a duty that all God believers should explain why a God should be excluded from the sufferings of humanity |
Re: Is God Wicked For Doing This? by FOLYKAZE(m): 4:43pm On Apr 22, 2021 |
shadeyinka: Jesus could have easily spelled it out that the primary cause of the guy blindness is Adam or far distance ancestors sin if that was the case. The guy eye was defected because God wanted to show proof that he is able to heal blindness. That is what Jesus meant by manifestation of God work. Reading little further, John 11:3 KJV: "When Jesus heard that, he said, This sickness is not unto death, but for the glory of God, that the Son of God might be glorified thereby." As you can see above, just like the case in 9:3, these purposes of God was imminent for his own gratification. Can you imagine that? God created this young man without sight, left in total darkness, sufferings, tedious struggle for survival, left on the street begging for many years because he want himself glorified. This is like inflicting people with a deadly disease and at same time selling the cure. If this isn't wickedness, I don't know what else it is. |
Re: Is God Wicked For Doing This? by Image123(m): 4:45pm On Apr 22, 2021 |
LordReed: Is it okay for God to hate His enemies? 1 Like |
Re: Is God Wicked For Doing This? by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:01pm On Apr 22, 2021 |
If we are all Jehovah's Witnesses 99% of the problems we have on this planet will be gone. What we will be battling with then is oldage and death. No more wars, food shortages, bag governance, crimes will be things of the past! All the religions on this planet are fake if their members can't come out boldy to say the same thing. That's why we (JWs) don't blame God. He has given us the Bible to help mankind solve all issues resulting from the way man is treating his fellowman on this planet. But how many people are taking in the wisdom from above? Well out of about 9,000,000,000 inhabitants of the earth only about 9,000,000 availed themselves for divine wisdom. So God's word says only those adhering STRICTLY to divine wisdom will enjoy relative LOVE, JOY and PEACE within their gathering. Micah 4:1-3 That's why God said all other inhabitants of the earth that failed to take in this divine wisdom will be exterminated! John 3:16 FOLYKAZE: |
Re: Is God Wicked For Doing This? by shadeyinka(m): 5:17pm On Apr 22, 2021 |
FOLYKAZE:He didn't need to. His disciples thought that either the man or his parents had commited a sin to be visited by such a calamity. Jesus position was that no: the man's problem isn't because of his sins just like millions of others in the world. So, for God to show that He could heal blindness, you think it makes sense for God to create one million blind people only to cure one? What about the 999,000 remaining blind people? FOLYKAZE:In other words, you think God made Lazarus sick, so that he can die and Jesus will go there to raise him? Did Lazarus truely die? Did Jesus resurrect Lazarus? Are you agreeing that God can resurrect a dead person? FOLYKAZE:Just look at your logic and determine if it has any common sense in it. There are thousands of blind people in the world, but God has to specially create one so that He can claim to heal him? Khai! 1 Like |
Re: Is God Wicked For Doing This? by LordReed(m): 5:27pm On Apr 22, 2021 |
Image123: 1. It makes no sense that the god you claim is so powerful has enemies. 2. It makes no sense that the god you claim knows the beginning from the end and made all things would harbour such an emotion. Why would the god even have emotions? Emotions are a function of neurochemical modification of the body, does your god get neurochemical modification of the body? 3 Likes |
Re: Is God Wicked For Doing This? by FOLYKAZE(m): 6:27pm On Apr 22, 2021 |
shadeyinka: This is you telling us, without bible reference, that he didn't need to inform his disciples that the cause of the young man blindness is the sin of some distance ancestors. The disciples wouldn't have asked any question if they were in the known. Jesus answer shows that the blindness isn't caused by anyone's sin but just so that God healing ability can be manifested through the innocent man. This is some kind of gratification. shadeyinka: You know that pandemic can be created to sell a medicine or corner loyalty. It happens in the medical and computer world. And when such happens, it is classified as crime against humanity, a sheer wickedness. Was it not God who afflicted Uriah-David Child with sickeness? 2 Samuel 12:15 ESV. Then Nathan went to his house. And the Lord afflicted the child that Uriah's wife bore to David, and he became sick. Was he not the one who court loyalty with disease and antidote? Exodus 15:26 ESV Saying, “If you will diligently listen to the voice of the Lord your God, and do that which is right in his eyes, and give ear to his commandments and keep all his statutes, I will put none of the diseases on you that I put on the Egyptians, for I am the Lord, your healer.” shadeyinka: Lazarus was made sick, left to die, and his loved ones in mourning mood. God proclaimed according to the bible there is nothing he can't do. Resurrection is good, but the preemptive purpose Lazarus resurrection is to glorify himself and Jesus. If it wasn't, he wouldn't have allow Lazarus to fall sickin the first place. That is self gratification, wickedness and evil move. shadeyinka: If he is good, he would healed all the sick and blind all at once |
Re: Is God Wicked For Doing This? by FOLYKAZE(m): 6:28pm On Apr 22, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse: Preach on. |
Re: Is God Wicked For Doing This? by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:32pm On Apr 22, 2021 |
The preaching is gradually becoming like that of Jonah, so enjoy the rest of your days my friend! FOLYKAZE: |
Re: Is God Wicked For Doing This? by shadeyinka(m): 10:18pm On Apr 22, 2021 |
FOLYKAZE:Jesus simply corrected the erroneous views of his disciples FOLYKAZE:I can see the logic. Create a pandemic and profit by selling just one bottle of drug. Great strategy! FOLYKAZE:And the child died and went back to it's source. How is that your business? FOLYKAZE:To the living death is horrible! To the dead, death is bliss! I can understand that you are tied to this Earth with the "earth bounds" living their lives in you. Lazarus was sick, sickness has always been part of this world. FOLYKAZE:That's your opinion. Until people like your kind are evicted from this world, pain and misery is expected. 1 Like |
Re: Is God Wicked For Doing This? by FOLYKAZE(m): 1:11pm On Apr 23, 2021 |
shadeyinka: And added that those afflictions were served for the glorification of God and himself. shadeyinka: Poor thinking. John 9:38 And he said, Lord, I believe. And he worshipped him. The blind boy, his parents, jew who questioned him,and those who knew he was blind before. How many were they? How many believed? How many went on worshipping Jesus? Even in the case of Lazarus John 11:45 Then many of the Jews which came to Mary, and had seen the things which Jesus did, believed on him. Isn't this courting of loyalty? What do you think people do in the church? Worshiping God and Jesus to resolve a dilemma they had initially created. shadeyinka: He afflicted the child with a disease, and have him dead unjustly. This wickedness and complete evil. Such a God can only be demon shadeyinka: If death is bliss, why are you still alive? You should have taken that horrible life of yours. shadeyinka: It is evolutionary survival of fitness... No one live for anyone. shadeyinka: Sickness is integral doing of God. shadeyinka: People like you should become stone and not die.. |
Re: Is God Wicked For Doing This? by shadeyinka(m): 1:46pm On Apr 23, 2021 |
FOLYKAZE:Was God not glorified at his healing? FOLYKAZE:It is you with poor thinking. You are the one who thinks that God will afflict 100,000 with blindness only to heal just one for bragging rights FOLYKAZE:The child died and went back to its Creator: what's your business with that? FOLYKAZE:It's programmed by God in ALL living beings to do all to be alive. I tell you, if God calls me home now, I'm good to go! I am peace with either I live or die now! FOLYKAZE:Sickness is an integral part of the fallen world. 1 Like |
Re: Is God Wicked For Doing This? by LordReed(m): 2:57pm On Apr 23, 2021 |
shadeyinka: Religious bigotry at its finest. 1 Like |
Re: Is God Wicked For Doing This? by shadeyinka(m): 3:01pm On Apr 23, 2021 |
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Re: Is God Wicked For Doing This? by LordReed(m): 3:04pm On Apr 23, 2021 |
shadeyinka: Including you so your exclusionary statement serves to reveal how much of a bigot you are. 2 Likes |
Re: Is God Wicked For Doing This? by shadeyinka(m): 3:08pm On Apr 23, 2021 |
LordReed:But I'm not afraid to die: probably you are! As long as there are godless people in this world, sin will reign and pain with it. There is certainly a time for eviction in this reality game: are you afraid? 1 Like |
Re: Is God Wicked For Doing This? by LordReed(m): 3:11pm On Apr 23, 2021 |
shadeyinka: No bigot, I am not afraid however bigot you think you are better than me and will be given a second chance. LoL, nice way to expose yourself religious bigot. Bwahahahahaha! 1 Like |
Re: Is God Wicked For Doing This? by FOLYKAZE(m): 4:41pm On Apr 23, 2021 |
shadeyinka: That was his sinister motive. Making people sick so that they can fall under his feet for healing. shadeyinka: Isn't that's the case today? Sickle cell disorder is by far the commonest inherited disorder in the world and three quarters of cases occur in Africa. We have over 10 million sickle cell carrier in Africa alone. Please tell sir, how many of these patients have your demonic God healed? How many are falling over themselves, languishing away their time, and emptying their pulse in your churches today? Your God is just evil, he is a failure! shadeyinka: The child do die, he was killed by your God. Infanticide is a crime against humanity. Such a treasonous and evil God that kill innocent child rendered all around. shadeyinka: You said living is horrible, move into bliss of death by committing suicide. shadeyinka: Fallen/evil world created by God? |
Re: Is God Wicked For Doing This? by FOLYKAZE(m): 4:59pm On Apr 23, 2021 |
LordReed:Thank goodness you saw that |
Re: Is God Wicked For Doing This? by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:15pm On Apr 23, 2021 |
shadeyinka: Jesus will surely exterminate all unbelievers {Luke 19:27} when his father gives him the order to do so! Psalms 110:1-2 But until then most of them still need Churchgoers like you to assist them in life! FOLYKAZE: So keep praying for them! |
Re: Is God Wicked For Doing This? by LordReed(m): 6:04pm On Apr 23, 2021 |
FOLYKAZE: It's sad and funny. 1 Like |
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