Pastor Williams Kumuyi, the founder of the Deeper Christian Life Bible Ministry, has disclosed why he would return the tithes and offering of some members of his church.

Kumuyi said he would return the tithes and offerings of any of his member who is still living in sin.

He stated this while addressing his members at the church’s headquarters in Lagos, on the topic of holiness.

Kumuyi stressed that sinners who have refused to repent but support the church with their money are wasting their resources.

Stressing on the importance of living a holy life, Kumuyi said God does not need a “sinner’s money.”

He maintained that it is pointless for a sinner to pay tithes and offerings in church.

“If you are a sinner here, God does not need your money. All the money you are giving in this church does not get to God. You are just wasting your money.

“As a matter of fact if I know the numbers of sinners here and how much they gave as tithes and offering I will remove it and give it back to them. God does not need it and the church does not need it,” Kumuyi said.

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Kumuyi stressed that sinners who have refused to repent but support the church with their money are wasting their resources.

Stressing on the importance of living a holy life, Kumuyi said God does not need a “sinner’s money.”

He maintained that it is pointless for a sinner to pay tithes and offerings in church.

“If you are a sinner here, God does not need your money. All the money you are giving in this church does not get to God. You are just wasting your money.

“As a matter of fact if I know the numbers of sinners here and how much they gave as tithes and offering I will remove it and give it back to them. God does not need it and the church does not need it,” Kumuyi said.

See con-man!
1. So all these decades, God previously had need for the money given him by sinners but God has suddenly changed His mind now? It is almost always God changing His mind with this man, isn't it. When will this man ever admit that he has lied to the multitudes for so long?

2. Now God only wants Offerings and tithes from Kumuyi's sheep and not from those who see right through him. Na wa oo!

How and when?

Pastors take care of sheep. Nigerian Pastors sell the wool and milk the sheep.

Human being wey say im be sheep, na to use am full barn.

Hmm!..dat kind thing.

Kobojunkie:
See con-man!
1. So all these decades, God previously had need for the money given him by sinners but God has suddenly changed His mind now? It is almost always God changing His mind with this man, isn't it. When will this man ever admit that he has lied to the multitudes for so long?

2. Now God only wants Offerings and tithes from Kumuyi's sheep and not from those who see right through him. Na wa oo!

See this Christian using logic to analyze the things of the Spirit... Wonderfully wonderful....

HappyPagan:

See this Christian using logic to analyze the things of the Spirit... Wonderfully wonderful....

I no blame you at all!

Righteousness2:
He is absolutely right!
Your tithe, offering, seeds and all that does not equal your Salvation.
What God is interested in is our Heart.

Yes Sir, God is interested in your heart. It is The man of God that is interested in the other things.


Your tithes and offerings are his salvation from Poverty.

Kobojunkie:
I no blame you at all!

You are welcome.

Though he says the truth, God doesn't accept their (Sinners) offerings, he won't be able to restitute all.

In fact, the first restitution is to give back to the poor, through scholarship in the church owned schools, etc.

This way he might have 'returned the sinners' tithe'.

psucc:
Though he says the truth, God doesn't accept their (Sinners) offerings, he won't be able to restitute all.

In fact, the first restitution is to give back to the poor, through scholarship in the church owned schools, etc.

This way he might have 'returned the sinners' tithe'.

1. STOP LYING! There's no Truth in any of what this man has said.

2. Your ideas of restitutions have nothing to do with God since what He, God, instead commands that you give away all you have to the poor, if you want to become His followers. So how can giving away some mean the same as giving it all away?

This man is an open false prophet who will roast in the darkest part of hell.

What he's basically saying is that he himself is not a sinner, which is a clear attack on the truth in the Bible as seen below.

Romans 3:23 KJV
23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

The Bible says all have sinned, But Kumuyi is saying he's not a sinner. He's calling the Bible which says "all have a sinned" a liar.

1 John 1:18 KJV
8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.

The verse above is the reason why nothing Kumuyi says can ever be believed by me. The verse says if we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us. Kumuyi is making it clear that he has no sin. This means he's a liar and the truth is not in him, according to the Bible.

I am a sinner, we are all sinners according to the flesh. But my spirit is not a sinner because it is Born of God and anything Born of God does not sin.

1 John 3:9 KJV
9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

But it is the flesh that sins, not the spirit of a true Christian who is saved once and for all eternity.

If Kumuyi says his flesh doesn't sin, then he's a big liar. His spirit sins as well because he preaches a works-based salvation contrary to the Bible.

alBHAGDADI:

This man is an open false prophet who will roast in the darkest part of hell.

What he's basically saying is that he himself is not a sinner, which is a clear attack on the truth in the Bible as seen below.

Romans 3:23 KJV
23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

The Bible says all have sinned, But Kumuyi is saying he's not a sinner. He's calling the Bible which says "all have a sinned" a liar.

That you're a sinner doesn't make everyone else the same.

That all have sinned... doesn't mean all are still sinning and yet sinners.

So stop using the Bible to justify your continual sinning.

The Bible also says the soul that sinneth shall die. Ezekiel 18:20-24

So unless you repent, you shall likewise perish! Luke 13:3, 5.

God bless.

alBHAGDADI:

This man is an open false prophet who will roast in the darkest part of hell.

What he's basically saying is that he himself is not a sinner, which is a clear attack on the truth in the Bible as seen below.

Romans 3:23 KJV
23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

The Bible says all have sinned, But Kumuyi is saying he's not a sinner. He's calling the Bible which says "all have a sinned" a liar.

For all have sinned does not mean that all should continue to sin sir. Even though its not comely to tag anyone a sinner but you are also doing what you are accusing Kumuyi of.

alBHAGDADI:

1 John 1:18 KJV
8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.

The verse above is the reason why nothing Kumuyi says can ever be believed by me. The verse says if we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us. Kumuyi is making it clear that he has no sin. This means he's a liar and the truth is not in him, according to the Bible.

I am a sinner, we are all sinners according to the flesh. But my spirit is not a sinner because it is Born of God and anything Born of God does not sin.

Stop contradicting yourself sir, the same John that you are quoting says that whatever is born of God does not sin
1 John 3:9, KJV: "Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God."
Romans 6:1 "What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?"

alBHAGDADI:

1 John 3:9 KJV
9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

But it is the flesh that sins, not the spirit of a true Christian who is saved once and for all eternity.

If Kumuyi says his flesh doesn't sin, then he's a big liar. His spirit sins as well because he preaches a works-based salvation contrary to the Bible.

You would do better to tackle the issue at hand and not the personal attack on Kumuyi. I don't know when y'all will stop this "I better pass my neighbour" attitude. I am right everyone is wrong kind of Christianity is the foundation of self righteousness. Same error committed by Kumuyi is what you are committing also

Peace

rhektor:
You would do better to tackle the issue at hand and not the personal attack on Kumuyi. I don't know when y'all will stop this "I better pass my neighbour" attitude. I am right everyone is wrong kind of Christianity is the foundation of self righteousness. Same error committed by Kumuyi is what you are committing also

I had no issue with your response until this part here.

This is about being right and everyone else wrong. This is about using the wisdom Jesus Christ gave us more than 2000 years to judge that which He warned that we be aware of and preach against. Kumuyi is a false Teacher and a false prophets whose very fruits, even in this reveals him as just that. What is wrong with admitting that which we know?

How do you determine that I am equally guilty of committing the very same error that Kumuyi commits even here. I have not deceived people into paying tithes and Offerings to me in the name of God, this against God's own commandment and I haven't preached the doctrines and traditions of me,Lies that Jesus Christ Himself declared where not of Him, to anyone ,let alone multitudes. Clearly, hi fruits reveal him as one who is not of Jesus Christ. I have also carefully remove the plank from my eye so I can clearly see that which is in my brothers eyes. So why am I guilty of the same error as this man for calling him out as a false prophet as Jesus Christ declared of his kind?

You no get yan

jesusjnr2020:
That you're a sinner doesn't make everyone else the same.

That all have sinned... doesn't mean all are still sinning and yet sinners.

So stop using the Bible to justify your continual sinning.

The Bible also says the soul that sinneth shall die. Ezekiel 18:20-24

So unless you repent, you shall likewise perish! Luke 13:3, 5.

God bless.

Proponents of the "righteousness is filthy rags" and the grace message will disagree strongly with you.

Jesus came to save the sinners and not the righteous.

livingchrist:
Jesus came to save the sinners and not the righteous.

Liar!

Jesus came to call sinners to repentance, not the righteous!

Luke 5:32
I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.

HappyPagan:

Yes Sir, God is interested in your heart. It is The man of God that is interested in the other things.


Your tithes and offerings are his salvation from Poverty.

So he turns your 10% into millions and billions. You should be flogged for remaining poor with 90%, don't you think?

jesusjnr2020:
Liar!

Jesus came to call sinners to repentance, not the righteous!

Luke 5:32
I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.

Sinners are called to repentance so that they can recieve the gift of salvation.
1 Timothy 1:15
This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief.

Kobojunkie:
I had no issue with your response until this part here.

This is about being right and everyone else wrong. This is about using the wisdom Jesus Christ gave us more than 2000 years to judge that which He warned that we be aware of and preach against. Kumuyi is a false Teacher and a false prophets whose very fruits, even in this reveals him as just that. What is wrong with admitting that which we know?

How do you determine that I am equally guilty of committing the very same error that Kumuyi commits even here. I have not deceived people into paying tithes and Offerings to me in the name of God, this against God's own commandment and I haven't preached the doctrines and traditions of me,Lies that Jesus Christ Himself declared where not of Him, to anyone ,let alone multitudes. Clearly, hi fruits reveal him as one who is not of Jesus Christ. I have also carefully remove the plank from my eye so I can clearly see that which is in my brothers eyes. So why am I guilty of the same error as this man for calling him out as a false prophet as Jesus Christ declared of his kind?

At first I thought that you would have learnt to stay on discussing the issue however you kept attacking kumuyi forgetting that Jesus himself warns us never to be the judge. Kumuyi has never called himself a prophet yet you call him a false prophet your hatred for him can not be hidden. I never......i have, I am etc SELF RITGGTEOUSNESS

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So he turns your 10% into millions and billions. You should be flogged for remaining poor with 90%, don't you think?

God the Great Money Doubtle...ROI 90% spiritual... Dem no dey flog sheep cane... sheep no need cane..

HappyPagan:


God the Great Money Doubtle...ROI 90% spiritual... Dem no dey flog sheep cane... sheep no need cane..

God has nothing to do with this. It's your puny little thinking. You claim that a man is unfairly turning 10% into millions and billions. What should you claim for the one with 90% that you are pitying?

Okay

BRATISLAVA:


Proponents of the "righteousness is filthy rags" and the grace message will disagree strongly with you.

Sugar

Image123:


God has nothing to do with this. It's your puny little thinking.

jesusjnr2020:
That you're a sinner doesn't make everyone else the same.

That all have sinned... doesn't mean all are still sinning and yet sinners.

So stop using the Bible to justify your continual sinning.

The Bible also says the soul that sinneth shall die. Ezekiel 18:20-24

So unless you repent, you shall likewise perish! Luke 13:3, 5.

God bless.

It's amazing how ignorant people keep equating their pastor (a mere moral) with God..... with the wickedness and evil that has kept this country as it is today.......