rhektor:

At first I thought that you would have learnt to stay on discussing the issue however you kept attacking kumuyi forgetting that Jesus himself warns us never to be the judge. Kumuyi has never called himself a prophet yet you call him a false prophet your hatred for him can not be hidden. I never......i have, I am etc SELF RITGGTEOUSNESS

1. A prophet is anyone who supposedly speaks the message of God, and since Kumuyi has always pretended to do exactly that, he is indeed one of the false prophets and false teachers God warned us against, this because he teaches lies in the name of God.

2. Humans are by their very design judgment-making machines. We judge everything from the our breath when we wake up in the morning,to the state of our stomach when we lie down to sleep at night. Even he color of the sky, the weather, our dreams we judge, good and bad.
Jesus Christ did not come that you may stop being human. Surely , Jesus Christ did not come to give us Laws, even tell us to judge people by their fruits ans then declare that we are not cease in judging our surroundings including the people in it - Matthew 7 vs 1 - 6. No, Jesus Christ instead declared that we stop judging by human standards- ideas,laws, traditions - ,but instead by God's own Law,the New Covenant Law which is the Law in the Kingdom of God - John 7 vs 24. And what is righteous judgement? It is judgement that is carried out according to God's own Law, Jesus Christ- for when we judge all things according to His commandments, then it is according to God's Will and wisdom and He stands as witness to you.- John 8 vs 15 - 18

3. I have not even an ounce of hate in me against the man called Kumuyi. However, I hate every lie he has told to decieve millions away from the Truth of the living God from his very start. I hate every doctrine and tradition of men, lies, he has filled the hearts of his followers with such that there every act of obedience to this doctrines amounts to a sin in the eyes of God.

I hate that in his ignorance of Jesus Christ being the New Covenant Law in the Kingdom of God, this man continues to teach, in God's place mind you- Jeremiah 31 vs 34 -, from the Old Covenant Law of Moses,to His followers, causing them to sin against God each time they open their mouths to speak or pray in the name of God.

His followers are rendered by him no different from idol worshipers where God is concerned and their worship of God rendered meaningless - all this a result of the lies that Kumuyi has propagated for several decades now, in the name of God.

So try to get it right! Pointing out that this man is indeed a false teacher and a false prophet has nothing to do with hatred for the man as he was judged over 2000 years ago by Jesus Christ Himself. It is to let people know that this is indeed on of those that Jesus Christ spent more than half of his time teaching us to beware of.

alBHAGDADI:

This man is an open false prophet who will roast in the darkest part of hell.

What he's basically saying is that he himself is not a sinner, which is a clear attack on the truth in the Bible as seen below.

Romans 3:23 KJV
23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

The Bible says all have sinned, But Kumuyi is saying he's not a sinner. He's calling the Bible which says "all have a sinned" a liar.

1 John 1:18 KJV
8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.

The verse above is the reason why nothing Kumuyi says can ever be believed by me. The verse says if we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us. Kumuyi is making it clear that he has no sin. This means he's a liar and the truth is not in him, according to the Bible.

I am a sinner, we are all sinners according to the flesh. But my spirit is not a sinner because it is Born of God and anything Born of God does not sin.

1 John 3:9 KJV
9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

But it is the flesh that sins, not the spirit of a true Christian who is saved once and for all eternity.

If Kumuyi says his flesh doesn't sin, then he's a big liar. His spirit sins as well because he preaches a works-based salvation contrary to the Bible.

Then what is repentance??

I'm not a sinner.. come & put me in hell

Kobojunkie:
1. A prophet is anyone who supposedly speaks the message of God, and since Kumuyi has always pretended to do exactly that, he is indeed one of the false prophets and false teachers God warned us against, this because he teaches lies in the name of God.

2. Humans are by their very design judgment-making machines. We judge everything from the our breath when we wake up in the morning,to the state of our stomach when we lie down to sleep at night. Even he color of the sky, the weather, our dreams we judge, good and bad.
Jesus Christ did not come that you may stop being human. Surely , Jesus Christ did not come to give us Laws, even tell us to judge people by their fruits ans then declare that we are not cease in judging our surroundings including the people in it - Matthew 7 vs 1 - 6. No, Jesus Christ instead declared that we stop judging by human standards- ideas,laws, traditions - ,but instead by God's own Law,the New Covenant Law which is the Law in the Kingdom of God - John 7 vs 24.

You claimed that Jesus did not come to give us law. Then what's that new covenant law of God? Who brought it? Can you see how you've been contradicting yourself in the bid to sound like you know what you are writing you kept shooting yourself

Kobojunkie:

And what is righteous judgement? It is judgement that is carried out according to God's own Law, Jesus Christ- for when we judge all things according to His commandments, then it is according to God's Will and wisdom and He stands as witness to you.- John 8 vs 15 - 18

What is the meaning of all these?

Kobojunkie:

3. I have not even an ounce of hate in me against the man called Kumuyi. However, I hate every lie he has told to decieve millions away from the Truth of the living God from his very start. I hate every doctrine and tradition of men, lies, he has filled the hearts of his followers with such that there every act of obedience to this doctrines amounts to a sin in the eyes of God.

Jibby jabber
In a bid to make sure that you keep criticism fire burning you shot yourself in the foot. "I hate all the lies that the man has told in the name of God..." yet you did not think that it is important to point out one of those lies

Kobojunkie:

I hate that in his ignorance of Jesus Christ being the New Covenant Law in the Kingdom of God, this man continues to teach, in God's place mind you- Jeremiah 31 vs 34 -, from the Old Covenant Law of Moses,to His followers, causing them to sin against God each time they open their mouths to speak or pray in the name of God.

How much hate fill your heart?

Kobojunkie:

His followers are rendered by him no different from idol worshipers where God is concerned and their worship of God rendered meaningless - all this a result of the lies that Kumuyi has propagated for several decades now, in the name of God.

Wouldn't it be silly to keep saying this same thing without proof? Isn't false witness one of the things God doesn't want us to engage in?

Kobojunkie:

So try to get it right! Pointing out that this man is indeed a false teacher and a false prophet has nothing to do with hatred for the man as he was judged over 2000 years ago by Jesus Christ Himself.

You have point out nothing here man instead you only write much texts that explain nothing. It's all junks like your moniker depicts. It is like talking much but saying nothing

Kobojunkie:

It is to let people know that this is indeed on of those that Jesus Christ spent more than half of his time teaching us to beware of.

There nothing to know in this your rant. Look at yourself and teach yourself first before you become teacher of others

rhektor:

You claimed that Jesus did not come to give us law. Then what's that new covenant law of God? Who brought it? Can you see how you've been contradicting yourself in the bid to sound like you know what you are writing you kept shooting yourself

What is the meaning of all these?

Jibby jabber
In a bid to make sure that you keep criticism fire burning you shot yourself in the foot. "I hate all the lies that the man has told in the name of God..." yet you did not think that it is important to point out one of those lies

How much hate fill your heart?

Wouldn't it be silly to keep saying this same thing without proof? Isn't false witness one of the things God doesn't want us to engage in?

You have point out nothing here man instead you only write much texts that explain nothing. It's all junks like your moniker depicts. It is like talking much but saying nothing

There nothing to know in this your rant. Look at yourself and teach yourself first before you become teacher of others

Ok

Kobojunkie:
Ok

Alright

ikorodureporta:


Then what is repentance??

I'm not a sinner.. come & put me in hell

Someone who does not know what he's saying. All these pseudo intellectuals on nairaland be overrating themselves. See the way he was writting as if he's the PA to God on sinful matters

lilvicky68:

Sugar

You play Scrabble?

BRATISLAVA:


You play Scrabble?

Yea

desiredhome:

It's amazing how ignorant people keep equating their pastor (a mere moral) with God..... with the wickedness and evil that has kept this country as it is today.......

I don't get.

BRATISLAVA:


Proponents of the "righteousness is filthy rags" and the grace message will disagree strongly with you.

Lol!

jesusjnr2020:
I don't get.

I mean those who feel/believe that their pastors are without sin/

livingchrist:
Sinners are called to repentance so that they can recieve the gift of salvation.
1 Timothy 1:15
This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief.

Luke 15:17
I say unto you, that likewise joy shall be in heaven over one sinner that repenteth, more than over ninety and nine just persons, which need no repentance.

Sinners need to repent to gain salvation, but the righteous need no repentance to do so.
That's why Jesus came to call the sinners to repentance and not the righteous, and also why heaven rejoices over a sinner that repents more than 99 righteous persons, because the righteous have no need to repent to be saved, but the sinners do.

lilvicky68:

Yea

Do you play online?

desiredhome:

I mean those who feel/believe that their pastors are without sin/

Is it not possible?

Was Job with sin when God proudly showcased him to Satan as perfect?

Mind you, that was before the coming of Jesus.

By the way, this is not about the pastor in question neither is he my pastor just in case you got that twisted. You should know me better by now. I don't defend pastors but the Truth.

jesusjnr2020:
Is it not possible?

Was Job with sin when God proudly showcased him to Satan as perfect?

Mind you, that was before the coming of Jesus.

By the way, this is not about the pastor in question neither is he my pastor just in case you got that twisted. You should know me better by now. I don't defend pastors but the Truth.

Yes, I got you right but as far as these pastors are mortal being, they can't live above sin.....the fact is people don't know what these pastors do in their private lives.....
You can only account for your own life

How we the Church survive? If he goes that route, there will no one naira from tithe.

Kobojunkie:
1. STOP LYING! There's no Truth in any of what this man has said.

2. Your ideas of restitutions have nothing to do with God since what He, God, instead commands that you give away all you have to the poor, if you want to become His followers. So how can giving away some mean the same as giving it all away?

You needed to read between lines to understand the how 'restitution' is used here before commenting.

Also, by Christ telling the richman to sell all he had and lent to the poor did not mean he should do so. Reading down will give you a clue why Christ told him so. Don't read the bible in verses and draw conclusion/meaning within the verse context, read the whole chapter and get the meaning

BRATISLAVA:

Do you play online?

Yes..wordwars

jesusjnr2020:
Luke 15:17
I say unto you, that likewise joy shall be in heaven over one sinner that repenteth, more than over ninety and nine just persons, which need no repentance.

Sinners need to repent to gain salvation, but the righteous need no repentance to do so.
That's why Jesus came to call the sinners to repentance and not the righteous, and also why heaven rejoices over a sinner that repents more than 99 righteous persons, because the righteous have no need to repent to be saved, but the sinners do.

All men are sinners, denying this makes you a liar.

Ecclesiastes 7:20 For there is not a just man upon earth, that doeth good, and sinneth not.

Psalms 130:3
If thou, LORD, shouldest mark iniquities, O Lord, who shall stand?

1 John 1:8-10 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.

The blood of Jesus can not wash a man who say he has no sin, it means you are calling God a liar who command every man to repent.

Acts 17:30
And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent:

The ninety nine that need no repentance are already Jesus sheep, meaning they are already cleansed with the blood of Jesus and they abide in Christ, apart from this sorry is your name.

Who is a sinner?

A sinner is not the Christian that commits sin.

Jesus defines sin, and by extension a sinner.

“of sin, because they do not believe in Me;”
‭‭John‬ ‭16:9‬ ‭NKJV‬‬

So according to Jesus, a sinner is that man who doesn’t believe in His finished work .

What makes this man a sinner is the sin in him.

The sin in him is the rejection of Christ.

This is the unpardonable sin.

This is the blasphemy of the Holy Ghost.

“Jesus said to them, “If you were blind, you would have no sin; but now you say, ‘We see.’ Therefore your sin remains.”
‭‭John‬ ‭9:41‬ ‭NKJV‬‬

The status of the Christian is not in works but faith in the finished work.

“So from now on we regard no one from a human point of view [according to worldly standards and values]. Though we have known Christ from a human point of view, now we no longer know Him in this way.”
‭‭2 Corinthians‬ ‭5:16‬ ‭AMP‬‬


God bless.

@Livingchrist

My friend, context is king.

“And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent:”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭17:30‬ ‭KJV‬‬

What does it mean to wink at?

The Greek word is “hupereido”

In this context it means to “take no notice of”

In reading the whole chapter you’ll observe that the Greek had their own way of worshiping the unknown God , bearing the image of an idol.

Obviously , their own way was not the acceptable way.

By saying God winked at the way the Greeks were worshiping God, the author meant God wasn’t taking notice of their manner of worship.

That is, God is not pleased or enticed or carried away by their worship.

Any worship that is not Christ- centered is idolatry , for the father says in one place:

“and lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭3:17‬ ‭KJV‬‬

This is why he now commands all men everywhere to repent.

What is this repentance?

Believing in the finished work of Christ.

psucc:
You needed to read between lines to understand the how 'restitution' is used here before commenting.

Also, by Christ telling the richman to sell all he had and lent to the poor did not mean he should do so. Reading down will give you a clue why Christ told him so. Don't read the bible in verses and draw conclusion/meaning within the verse context, read the whole chapter and get the meaning

1. Jesus Christ did not teach you restitution. No, many of you chose to learn it from reading the story of persons like Zaccheus. Problem with that is that you are never told that Zaccheus become a follower of Jesus Christ after that, nor did Jesus Christ give His approval to that which Zaccheus did at that time or any other time.

2. Jesus Christ instead taught that anyone who wants to be worthy of Him I.e. become His follower, has to deny himself, lose his life(everything), carry his cross in order to do so.He told of this even in parables - parable of the Hidden treasure in Matthew 13 vs 44 & the parable of the Jewel in Matthew 13 vs 45 -46. . In Matthew 19 vs 16 - 26, Jesus Christ explains to the rich young man sell all of his possessions and give it away if he wanted to become a follower of His, Jesus Christ, and in Matthew 19 vs 27 - 30, we hear that all of His disciples had to do exactly that in order to become His followers and we learn of the reward that awaited them at the end.

See, Jesus Christ did not teach of restitution - a partial giving away of your possessions - as the way to becoming a follower of Jesus Christ. He taught instead that you are meant to give it all away in order to become one of His.

Allihamdulilahi

Kobojunkie:
See con-man!
1. So all these decades, God previously had need for the money given him by sinners but God has suddenly changed His mind now? It is almost always God changing His mind with this man, isn't it. When will this man ever admit that he has lied to the multitudes for so long?

2. Now God only wants Offerings and tithes from Kumuyi's sheep and not from those who see right through him. Na wa oo!

No be everything person dey talk nah. Let's just enjoy his lies. He thinks everyone is Stupid like his gullible followers.

YUSUPH1986:
Allihamdulilahi

You be sinner too? Go and ask him for your Tithes oooo

Oh! Pastor Kumuyi, I'm a huge sinner and I'm just realizing it. Please, I paid N10m as tithes and N2.5m as offering last Sunday. Can I send my account number?

HappyPagan:


See this Christian using logic to analyze the things of the Spirit... Wonderfully wonderful....

Sharap

Good news! But how do they recognize sinners?

I remember when Daddy Freeze advocated for exactly this same thing, and every so-called Christian went berserk.

Well, there you have it, spoken from a well respected Man of God.

I guess some idiots will still come here to advocate.

Tithing in itself is a part of the Jewish tradition, it should not form part of our modern day beliefs as Christians. Whilst I understand what Churches use tithe money for and some churches are very sincere with its use, tithing should not be made compulsory and churches should stop guilt tripping people into paying tithes. Whatever offering a Christian makes should come from their hearts, Churches can remind, cajole and try to appeal to their followers to pay tithes, but they should never scare their followers into doing so.

RichBoy247:


You be sinner too? Go and ask him for your Tithes oooo

Nope. We don't give tithes

How you wan take kno d sinners?

WoodWorkingBox:


https://www.google.com/amp/s/dailypost.ng/2021/06/18/pastor-kumuyi-vows-to-return-tithes-offerings-of-sinful-deeper-life-members/%3futm_term=Autofeed&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook%2523Echobox%253D1624034793&amp