Bishopkingsley:


The one who oppose God is giving you different questions to ask so you will not channel and think evil generated from him

Notice he asked the first question that brought mankind to fall

Did God say you shall not eat from the tree?

Why do you chose to blame God rather than accept mankind followed the wrong path

Cabble4:

*He is.
*The whole world for now can't see the truth that is hidden in plain sight. Is there anyone whether Pastor who or who, who can say he/she understands clearly and without any question 50% passage of the bible? Of course not! If anyone say yes, he/she is worse than Liar Mohammed. Even the Story of Adam & Eve being told by Satan[The deceiver, The Liar] that, eating the Fruit will make them God and God Himself confirming in Gen:3:22 that they have become God raises so many questions if actually Satan is really who the Bible seems to portray.
*I believe there would come a time, all will be revealed and the Omniscience and Omnipotence of God will be appreciated. Till then, they are at liberty to think and say whatever they feel like because the blindness is intended.

Bishopkingsley:


God provided free will which Satan uses to oppose God

There is freedom of choice

A true all-powerful and All-knowing won't violate your own free will

God is not a dictator

Cabble4:

You are the one following a wrong path here. Open your eyes, would you? Read Genesis chapter 2 and 3. Does your ideology of Adam, Eve, God & Satan make any sense to you?

Cabble4:

Is so said to see how you defend ignorance! Really?
Let Me ask you. Provided you have a company and a staff you employed is sabotaging your company into bankruptcy. Would you because of your supposed "Free Will" still keep the employee? And if Yes, are you really a business man out to make profits?
I hope you don't tell Me humanity is not God's business because if you do, we will have to arranged for......let Me pause for your response.

Bishopkingsley:


Gen:3:22 that they have become God raises so many questions

There is not hard

Now God told them the final end of the result

God did not want to start explaining the process before the end

Satan knew the process and explained it to them show them the sweet part which they believed

Satan has always mixed lie with truth he won't just say only lie because he knows we have sense to decode it but he will mix it to sweet u

God then confirm the process that the devil said when we disobeyed him ask your self did the final result that God told them did it not finally happen

Bishopkingsley:


Once you enter this christ because Christianity is above religion it is the way of life

Once you become born again you will never die because body death is not the real death the real death is separation from God Which takes place when those who refuse God are placed in the lake of fire

So once you are saved you will live forever with God

Bishopkingsley:


Jesus worship God... Jesus (God) coming to earth is to show us how to live life how to pray etc

God is the word, the word entered Mary who gave birth to the word called Emmanuel, God with us, God then chose to call himself Jesus meaning God's salvation or Saviour

Bishopkingsley:


Note the employee has already been sacked but guess what he went out to lie and say he did not do anything wrong to me that I was the one at fault he ended up taking many of my workers who believed him to start his own company and kept on coming to my own through the back door
*Sacked? Satan is very much in the universe which includes God's company premises. What are you saying? The earth is Mine and the fullness of it there of". You can claim Satan is sacked when he ceased to exist.
This means, My question still stands, "Would you keep the staff because of the concept of free will as you supposed?


If I kill him then people would say wow so he was right that I was a dictator and wicked man so I let him do his worst for every one to see who he really is and as he is doing his worst am bust correcting all the bad things he does

Cabble4:

To begin, No body disobeyed. God gave Adam and Eve a choice to take and gave the consequences as a curse if they decided to take. God himself concealed the real process involved in the curses. It was God's plan for them to be like Him and as such will have to make some sacrifices which are the curses. So, when they ate the fruit, it aligned with God's plans. "Thou shall not eat" is a disclaimer please. Adam and Eve NEVER DISOBEYED.

tamonokare:


You think the promise of living forever or the threat of lake of fire can make me become a Christian ? Is that why you're practising Christianity ? My friend i am not a coward neither am i greedy. I'm not interested in your endless life or anything when i die. I'm ok with the life i have. And your lake of fire threat is just laughable.

If accepting Jesus will save me from the biblical lake of fire , what will save me from the lake of fire in the Qur'an ? The one that is made for non Muslims.

Bishopkingsley:


It was God's plan for them to be like Him and as such will have to make some sacrifices which are the curses

My beloved brother what you are trying to do is reverse Psychology

No it won't and can't happen in the things of God

Just beleive God at his word don't try to reason it it not a mental, mind calculation it by faith

That how God want it to be

Bishopkingsley:


Be specific which ideology are you talking about

Cabble4:

*Because you couldn't understand doesn't mean that's how God wants it to be. You people rest your ignorance on the guise of "That's how God wants it to be" which is far from the truth. Leave reverse psychology for psychologist. Read the Bible with an unbiased mind, ask the relevant questions where things are not clear to the Holy Spirit and He is the Wisest Counselor I know & all the platitudes of "That's how God wants it to be" will not come up.

Cabble4:

Satan's question never brought Mankind to fall and much less the fruit. Mankind is "FALL ALREADY". Spirit inside Flesh which is mankind is Fall Already. So, they don't necessary need to heed to Satan or eat the fruit to fall because they are down already. As I said, anything that put on Flesh is Fall Already.

Bishopkingsley:


That is how God wants it to be

Explains why God said the things he revealed in the Bible is what he wants us to know

And there are things which he hides this one's is only for him

That why he commanded John not to write some specific things which are not for us to know

From Genesis to revelation every thing is by faith

God knows they are genius in the world which if the Bible is a common book they will easily understand it

But the Bible is not ordinary book you can use sense only on

No you must use faith and believe in the Almighty to understand some aspects he wants you to know

Bishopkingsley:


Am sorry that is not what God told us

That is not from God

AntiChristian:


Are you saying Jesus worshipped himself?
Are you saying the father and son are the same?
Are you saying Jesus is YHWH?

Are you saying Jesus was the one saying" behold this is my beloved son in whom I'm well pleased" in the Bible?

For God so loved the world that He gave Himself...

Cabble4:

My friend listen. No one can go to God without Faith. So, no one is against Faith. What I am against is hiding ignorance in the Platitude of "That's how God wants it to be". The mere fact that it is written in the bible is because He wants you to know. May that day come soonest where this truth that has been hidden in plain sight for ages to be revealed to all.

Cabble4:

Prove that you need to study the bible more. So, you don't know that Flesh is death and the Spirit is Life?

Bishopkingsley:


Which truth exactly are you talking about

Cabble4:

The one hidden in plain sight you can't see.

Bishopkingsley:


Brother flesh only became death when we chose the wrong path

Before we chose the wrong path

That flesh had the ability to live forever here on earth

Bishopkingsley:


And what exactly is in plain sight that I can not see

Cabble4:

*How can what's wrong chose what's right? Flesh is Corruption and immortal. Corruption and immortality doesn't live for ever please, Jesus!! Only the incorruptible and immortality lives for ever,ROM:8; 1Corinth:15:44 read down.
*Are you afraid to accept the truth because you will see that, your whole life has been a lie or just what?

michael77777:
this is why I hate religious sections... always writing long epistles and quoting non existing verses...



why can't you go straight to the point?

Bishopkingsley:


The things you are stating only is true because man fell through Adam

Jesus came with the same flesh that Adam had and still defeated the devil with the same flesh which you condemn

Evil did not originate with the flesh rather with the devil

You can't mix things up to suit your mind set

Cabble4:

*He is.
*The whole world for now can't see the truth that is hidden in plain sight. Is there anyone whether Pastor who or who, who can say he/she understands clearly and without any question 50% passage of the bible? Of course not! If anyone say yes, he/she is worse than Liar Mohammed. Even the Story of Adam & Eve being told by Satan[The deceiver, The Liar] that, eating the Fruit will make them God and God Himself confirming in Gen:3:22 that they have become God raises so many questions if actually Satan is really who the Bible seems to portray.
*I believe there would come a time, all will be revealed and the Omniscience and Omnipotence of God will be appreciated. Till then, they are at liberty to think and say whatever they feel like because the blindness is intended.

Cabble4:

*man never had to Fall when he is already made a fallen state. Jesus Christ is God Almighty 100%. There is the Supreme Authority factor at play in Him which no ordinary man has, please and please. Don't talk more. Because the more you reply, the less enlightened you sound please and please.

OsusTroller:

If your god is in constant battle with his own creation, even though he's All-knowing and all-powerful, then your god is stupid and ridiculous.
This also infere that your god is not all-powerful and a.ll-knowing.
If I were your god, I'm sure that I'll do much better.

Bishopkingsley:


Bible never said man was already made in a fallen state from the beginning

Don't say what is not in the scriptures

Rather you hear,,, he was made in the image of God

There is no where in the Genesis that God did that because God declared it was good