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MAXINDHOUSE, A STRONG MEMBER OF JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES HAS FALLEN INTO HIS OWN TRAP BY CONFESSING THAT JESUS IS GOD

Introduction
The apostle was quick to reveal his amazement that there were those who had traded a knowledge of the truth for a false teaching (Galatians 1:6). They had been led astray by those willing to distort the truth and destroy the simplicity of the good news. There have always been those people . . . willing to misuse and abuse the scriptures, either unscrupulously for their own promotion, or through ignorance and misguidance from others. A single changed word, an expanded or unauthorized definition, a personal bias, a small mistake, can, with time and transmission, become a stumbling block to many. Nothing seems to cement false teaching as rapidly as sheer blind acceptance. The unwillingness to search and find the truth, along with a contentment to accept at face value what is taught, often becomes the albatross of many lives.

Truth will always expose lies and falsehood, ridicule the bearer and send him run like a timid puppy with tail in between its legs.

It was a heated debate between the forces of darkness and the angel of light.

Truth will stand on its own. Likewise, false doctrine will crumble from its own inherent weakness when compared to the absolute standard. Any false doctrine, when carefully examined, possesses some facsimile to the truth. Indeed, most false teaching tends to shore up its ramparts with a mixture of scripture and Biblical thoughts. It is this mixing and mingling of the truth and untruth that all too often becomes the pitfall for the less careful student.
Anyone who has been trained and skilled in the presentation of twisted rules of hermeneutics and the misrepresentation of the meaning of any context of scripture can easily manipulate the unsuspecting. Often such a distorted presentation may appear on the surface to be logical and scriptural. Only complete examination can reveal otherwise!

Greatzeus:
Jesus is Lord
Jesus is God in the flesh
Jesus is Messiah
Jesus is Saviour
Period!!!!!!!!!

EFULEFU1:
Jehovah witnesses hate Jesus to the bone

1. Jesus told His disciples to witness Him (Jesus) in Acts 1:8 but Jws say they will rather witness Jehovah

2. The Bible calls Jesus God (Isaiah 9:6, John 14:8-9, john 20:28, Colossians 1:16 etc) yet jws say Jesus is a god.

3. Jesus said all eyes will see him when he appears again, jws say Jesus appeared invisibly in 1914 Even they themselves didn't see him; this is madness

4. The Bible is clear that Jesus created all things (Colossians 1:16) but Jws say NO, it was their God Jehovah who first created Jesus and Jesus created all other things wow

5. The Bible commands us to do ALL things in the Name of JESUS, jws say no, they will do all things in Jehovah

6. Jws will not sing or listen to a song containing JESUS, they will rather sing a dirge. Same Jesus who is worshipped by even angels

7. Jws say Jesus is angel Michael when the Bible says Jesus is God and Saviour; by extension the saviour of jws is angel Michael

8. Jws have doctored the Bible to form their nwt to make Jesus an angel and a god

9. JWs make mockery of Jesus everyday ; mocking at His deity, same thing the High Priest and elders did to Jesus when He stood before them In trial

10. Jws lie that, Jesus' ressurection wasn't physical; for them, Jesus' body corrupted

Flee Jehovah WITNESSES

It's a Big Cult

Shine your eyes

GardenOfGod:
Jehovah's Witnesses teach many things that are contrary to the scriptures. The most abominable of these errors is what they teach concerning Jesus According to the Witnesses, Jesus is "a god, but not the almighty God, who is Jehovah" (Let God Be True, p. 33). Instead, they say that Jesus is "a created individual" who "is the second greatest personage of the universe"
(Make Sure Of All Things, p. 207)

Afamsi:
The Bible said The Word was with God, and the Word was God. The angel sent by the father told Mary that the name of her son shall be
" Emmanuel" meaning 'God with us'. Jesus will always remain God whether anybody believe it or not

GardenOfGod:
I have been trying to avoid their "antichrist spirit" because their heart and soul have been corroded. They are like ocultic initiates, who took an oath to protect their doctrine.
So I often regard responding to them a waste of time and resources.

If I were to confront the "spirit" in them, I would use the power of truth to expose them. When you expos a lie with truth, the bearer becomes neked.

For example, I will drop one truth to question the sanctity and scholarly IQ of the New World Translators of their own perverted version of the Bible.

MaxInDHouse:
There are many religious groups teaching different things about Jesus so there's no reason to kill yourself over what JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES believe.
Just work on your own beliefs Jesus said "if it yields positive results everyone will see it" Matthew 5:13-16

MaxInDHouse:
I just hope what you meant by sanctity and scholarly IQ should be put to test by fine WORKS that everyone can SEE {Matthew 5:14} and not some fruitless arguments of no benefits! 1Timothy 6:4; Titus 3:9

GardenOfGod:
The New Testament teaches that Jesus is God in many passages. "In the Beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. . . . All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made. In Him was life, and the life was the light of men" (John 1:1-4).
Here, as in these other passages in the New Testament (John 1:14; I John 1:1; and Revelation 19:13), the designated Word, or Logos, refers especially to Jesus. That John is referring to Jesus becomes clear when we look at John 1:14, where he said, "And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us." John said, "The Word was God."

The Witnesses say the word God in the original appears here without the definite article "the"
and should be translated "a god." They fail to point out that the New Testament is filled with references to "God" without the use of a definite article in the Greek (two hundred and eighty-two times). Even the translators who render John 1:1 to read a god translate the exact same phrase as "God" in ninety-four percent of the other two hundred and eighty-one instances. To be consistent, these should say a god. This construction occurs twenty times in John's gospel alone. Should John 1:18, then, be translated, "No one has seen a god at anytime?"
Take notice of the INCONSISTENCY in their translation.

There are many others but I don't have time for them.

MaxInDHouse:
You don't need giving yourself too much headache over John 1:1.
See how it was originally written in Greek, then PREACH to yourself how the two different texts KJV translated "God" is the same!

MaxInDHouse:
You don't need giving yourself too much headache over John 1:1.
See how it was originally written in Greek, then PREACH to yourself how the two different texts KJV translated "God" is the same!

Am sure you think WatchTower wrote original Greek text.
Here's the original with correct transliteration and translation.

MaxInDHouse:
Chai, abeg cover your face!

So after all your argument it's the same thing you're presenting shey?

Does the two Greek texts rendered "God" in the screenshot look the same?

One is Theon while the other is Theos

Abeg check am wella wella before your next paparazzi because the New Word Translation rendered one as "God" and the other as god please which translation is correct now?

No shame o!

GardenOfGod:
Notice how the same Greek word for "God" is translated "God" in numerous Bible passages and never "a god"

GardenOfGod:
You will fall into your own snare.... You shouldn't have brought up the issue with me at all.

Your emphasis is on "Theos"

GardenOfGod:
MAXINDHOUSE, A STRONG MEMBER OF JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES HAS FALLEN INTO HIS OWN SNARE BY CONFESSING THAT JESUS IS GOD

Introduction
The apostle was quick to reveal his amazement that there were those who had traded a knowledge of the truth for a false teaching (Galatians 1:6). They had been led astray by those willing to distort the truth and destroy the simplicity of the good news. There have always been those people . . . willing to misuse and abuse the scriptures, either unscrupulously for their own promotion, or through ignorance and misguidance from others. A single changed word, an expanded or unauthorized definition, a personal bias, a small mistake, can, with time and transmission, become a stumbling block to many. Nothing seems to cement false teaching as rapidly as sheer blind acceptance. The unwillingness to search and find the truth, along with a contentment to accept at face value what is taught, often becomes the albatross of many lives.

Truth will always expose lies and falsehood, ridicule the bearer and send him run like a timid puppy with tail in between its legs.

It was a heated debate between the forces of darkness and the angel of light.

Truth will stand on its own. Likewise, false doctrine will crumble from its own inherent weakness when compared to the absolute standard. Any false doctrine, when carefully examined, possesses some facsimile to the truth. Indeed, most false teaching tends to shore up its ramparts with a mixture of scripture and Biblical thoughts. It is this mixing and mingling of the truth and untruth that all too often becomes the pitfall for the less careful student.
Anyone who has been trained and skilled in the presentation of twisted rules of hermeneutics and the misrepresentation of the meaning of any context of scripture can easily manipulate the unsuspecting. Often such a distorted presentation may appear on the surface to be logical and scriptural. Only complete examination can reveal otherwise!

MaxInDHouse:
You are a clown!
Of course Jesus is God {John 1:1} just as Moses was God nah! Exodus 7:1

GardenOfGod:
Am done with you young man... Am posting our conversations here... Am not accusing you.... Its your words that am bringing here

MaxInDHouse:
The highlighted is your problem!

My friend, you're alone in the search for truth {Matthew 7:13-14} it's after you've found the truth that you will now have brothers and sisters with whom you will share the same line of thought. Matthew 12:46-50

Not just following a confused crowd of people having contracting teachings and conflicting doctrines whose only intention is to antagonize a specific group with unique Identity!

Only JEHOVAH is rendered THEON (GOD) in the Greek text but whenever it has to do with Jesus it's always THEOS (God) of course there is no meaning in rendering a title doctor or Doctor because it's just a title!

@ Matthew 1:23 it's THEOS (God) which could be used for Jesus, Moses and any other God for that matter. But whenever you see THEON it means JEHOVAH (God)

GardenOfGod:
Every statement you make is a snare that you will fall into..

MaxInDHouse:
Only JEHOVAH is rendered THEON (GOD) in the Greek text but whenever it has to do with Jesus it's always THEOS (God) of course there is no meaning in rendering a title doctor or Doctor because it's just a title!

@ Matthew 1:23 it's THEOS (God) which could be used for Jesus, Moses and any other God for that matter. But whenever you see THEON it means JEHOVAH (God)

GardenOfGod:
JEHOVAH = THEON
JESUS = THEOS
According to MaxInDHouse

Please who is the "God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob" in Matthew 22:32?

Matthew 22:32, NIV: "I am the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob'? He is not the God of the dead but of the living.

Please who is the GOD spoken of here "Jesus" or "Jehovah?" according to the Greek word?

The Greek word "THEOS" (God) stands for "JESUS" according to MaxInDHouse, meaning that Jesus is GOD as seen in that passage.

Today MaxInDHouse has CONFESS AND CONFIRM THAT JESUS IS GOD to the glory of God the Father.

GardenOfGod:
I told him to bring up Matt. 22 :32 in Greek intearlinear Bible... His dilemma started when he posted it....




Here comes his way to confession of our Lord Jesus as God


Notice his acceptance of the fact that "THEOS" stands for "Jesus"

GardenOfGod:
The Greek word "theos" translated "God" is recording over 300 places in the New Testament of the Holy Scriptures.
I challenge Mr. MaxInDHouse to prove that Jesus is not God if "theos" doesn't stand for "Jesus"

#OPENCHALLENGE TO MAXINDHOUSE

SEVERAL QUESTIONS TO MAXINDHOUSE

1. Who translated your New World Translation?
Where were they educated?
What are their credentials?
What manuscripts did they use?

2. Why did they translate "Kurios" which means "Lord"and "Theos" which means "God," with the word "Jehovah" 217 times in the New Testament of your New World Translation?
There are more than 400 English translations of the New Testament today, and not one of them translated Kurios (Lord) Jehovah except you! Indeed, it would be interesting to hear your explanation!

3. Why did you insert the word other in your translation of Colossians 1:16? The translation of the Greek is correctly rendered: "For by him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things were created by him and for him."

But your translation reads: "Because by means of him all other things were created in the heavens and upon the earth. . ." Are you not aware of the fact that the word other is not found in the Greek text?
Your New World Translation also translated "theos" as "Jehovah"
Maybe 'Jehovah is also an "Angel"

MaxInDHouse:
Walahi Talahi you're sick oh!
Well this shows how embattled you are each time you see my post on Nairaland!

For your information, both Moses and Jesus are Gods (THEOS) none is to be worshiped except Jehovah God (THEON) that's the secret!

Janosky:
Why do you DECEIVE yourself?

[b]Bros, you know John 1:18 has two versions:

Therefore, John 1:18 "only Begotten god/God at his Father's side" is not a yardstick to back your claim.
John1:18 ,Is Almighty God begotten in heaven?
"Begotten" has punctured your claim


Greek 3588 2316 "ho theos-the God"

Greek 3588 2316 is @ John 1:1, John 14:1, did John refer it to Jesus?

Greek 3588 2316 is @ John 14:1, did Jesus refer it to himself?

Greek 3588 2316 is @ Ephesians1:3,Rom15:6,
2 Corinthians 1:3, 2 Corinthians 11:31, did Paul refer to Jesus?

Greek 3588 2316 is @1 Peter 1:3, did Peter refer to Jesus?

Greek 3588 2316 is @ Matthew 1:23, does Greek 3588 2316 refer to Jesus?
Bros, be honest oooo[/b]

MaxInDHouse:
Only JEHOVAH is rendered THEON (GOD) in the Greek text but whenever it has to do with Jesus it's always THEOS (God) of course there is no meaning in rendering a title doctor or Doctor because it's just a title!

@ Matthew 1:23 it's THEOS (God) which could be used for Jesus, Moses and any other God for that matter. But whenever you see THEON it means JEHOVAH (God)

GardenOfGod:
The Greek word "theos" translated "God" is recording over 300 places in the New Testament of the Holy Scriptures.
I challenge Mr. MaxInDHouse to prove that Jesus is not God if "theos" doesn't stand for "Jesus"

#OPENCHALLENGE TO MAXINDHOUSE

SEVERAL QUESTIONS TO MAXINDHOUSE

1. Who translated your New World Translation?
Where were they educated?
What are their credentials?
What manuscripts did they use?

2. Why did they translate "Kurios" which means "Lord"and "Theos" which means "God," with the word "Jehovah" 217 times in the New Testament of your New World Translation?
There are more than 400 English translations of the New Testament today, and not one of them translated Kurios (Lord) Jehovah except you! Indeed, it would be interesting to hear your explanation!

3. Why did you insert the word other in your translation of Colossians 1:16? The translation of the Greek is correctly rendered: "For by him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things were created by him and for him."

But your translation reads: "Because by means of him all other things were created in the heavens and upon the earth. . ." Are you not aware of the fact that the word other is not found in the Greek text?
Your New World Translation also translated "theos" as "Jehovah"
Maybe 'Jehovah is also an "Angel"

Janosky:
Ho theos- Greek 3588 2316.
@John 14:1, did Jesus say he is NOT ho theos ?
@ John 1:1, did John say Jesus is NOT ho theos?
@ 1 Peter 1:3, did Peter say Jesus is NOT ho theos?
@ Romans 16:5-6 & 2 Corinthians11:31,did Paul say Jesus is NOT ho theos?

Yes. Jesus is NOT the God Almighty his Father.
Greek Matthew 1:23, "with us is Greek 3588 2316
. Jesus is NOT "ho theos" his Father.

[b]John 5:37, Jesus says we have never seen his Father's shape nor heard the Father's voice."
"With us is the God" because his son/Messenger was sent to teach us his Father's doctrine, John 7:16.
Matthew 10:40, if you know you know
[/b]

Janosky:
Ho theos- Greek 3588 2316.
The definite article Greek 3588 2316 @ John1:1 "ho theos".
Jesus is NEVER ho theos.

@John 14:1, did Jesus say he is NOT ho theos ?
@ John 1:1, did John say Jesus is NOT ho theos?
@ 1 Peter 1:3, did Peter say Jesus is NOT ho theos?
@ Romans 16:5-6 & 2 Corinthians11:31,did Paul say Jesus is NOT ho theos?

Yes. Jesus is NOT the God Almighty his Father.
Greek Matthew 1:23, "with us is Greek 3588 2316
. Jesus is NOT "ho theos" his Father.

[b]John 5:37, Jesus says we have never seen his Father's shape nor heard the Father's voice."
"With us is the God" because his son/Messenger was sent to teach us his Father's doctrine, John 7:16.
Matthew 10:40, if you know you know
[/b]

GardenOfGod:
You are stabbing yourself..... In case you have forgotten... Look down.


You are confused.

Attend to the questions I posted for you.

Janosky:

Greek lexicon 3588 2316 , ho theos for the God and Father @ John 1:1
John 14:1, did Jesus say he is "ho theos"?

@ John 1:1, is the Word ho theos?
Emphatic no !!!!!!
@ 1 Peter 1:3
@ Romans 16:5-6 & 2 Corinthians11:31

Yes. Jesus is NOT, NEVER ho theos- the God Almighty his Father.
Greek Matthew 1:23, "with us is Greek 3588 2316.

Trinity fall yakata

MaxInDHouse:
Only JEHOVAH is rendered THEON (GOD) in the Greek text but whenever it has to do with Jesus it's always THEOS (God) of course there is no meaning in rendering a title doctor or Doctor because it's just a title!

@ Matthew 1:23 it's THEOS (God) which could be used for Jesus, Moses and any other God for that matter. But whenever you see THEON it means JEHOVAH (God)

GardenOfGod:
JEHOVAH = THEON
JESUS = THEOS
According to MaxInDHouse

Please who is the "God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob" in Matthew 22:32?

Matthew 22:32, NIV: "I am the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob'? He is not the God of the dead but of the living.

Please who is the GOD spoken of here "Jesus" or "Jehovah?" according to the Greek word?

[b]The Greek word "THEOS" (God) stands for "JESUS" according to MaxInDHouse, meaning that Jesus is GOD as seen in that passage.

GardenOfGod:
Quotes all those portions in original Greek lets see if "theos" is translated God or god according to New World translation

GardenOfGod:
This one is more confused than MaxInDHouse


Maybe you should start from where MaxInDHouse stopped here.....
Please who is the" theoa"in Matt. 22 :32? Jesus or Jehovah?


Notice his acceptance of the fact that "THEOS" stands for "Jesus"

Janosky:
@ John 1:1,Ho theos is the God, the Father of the word.
The definite article "The- Greek 3588 always refer to the person.
That is why 'the word' is not a speech but a person.
In like manner, Greek 3588-the God ho Theos NEVER referenced Jesus.

@Hoses 12:3-4, angel is God.
Therefore, your claim at John 1:1, doesn't hold water.

MaxInDHouse:
Only JEHOVAH is rendered THEON (GOD) in the Greek text but whenever it has to do with Jesus it's always THEOS (God) of course there is no meaning in rendering a title doctor or Doctor because it's just a title!

@ Matthew 1:23 it's THEOS (God) which could be used for Jesus, Moses and any other God for that matter. But whenever you see THEON it means JEHOVAH (God)

Janosky:
Point of correction:
@ John 1:1, JEHOVAH is ho theos.
@John 14:1, Jesus says JEHOVAH is ho theos.
@ 1 Peter 1:3, Peter says JEHOVAH is ho theos.
@ 2 Corinthians 11:31,1:3, Paul says JEHOVAH is ho theos.
@ Matthew 1:23, JEHOVAH is ho theos.
Because the son JEHOVAH sent is teaching his Father's doctrine,as the Messenger, John 7:16.

JEHOVAH = THEON
JESUS = THEOS
According to MaxInDHouse

Please who is the "God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob" in Matthew 22:32?

Matthew 22:32, NIV: "I am the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob'? He is not the God of the dead but of the living.

Please who is the GOD spoken of here "Jesus" or "Jehovah?" according to the Greek word?

The Greek word "THEOS" (God) stands for "JESUS" according to MaxInDHouse, meaning that Jesus is GOD as seen in that passage.

GardenOfGod:
Who told you it is my claim?
MaxInDHouse your brother told me that "theos" is "Jesus" while "theon" is Jehovah... And you are saying the opposite

Yes. Jesus is NOT, NEVER ho theos- the God Almighty his Father.
Greek Matthew 1:23, "with us is Greek 3588 2316.

Trinity fall yakata
Maybe you should start from where MaxInDHouse stopped here.....
Please who is the" theos"in Matt. 22 :32? Jesus or Jehovah?
Only JEHOVAH is rendered THEON (GOD) in the Greek text but whenever it has to do with Jesus it's always THEOS (God) of course there is no meaning in rendering a title doctor or Doctor because it's just a title!

@ Matthew 1:23 it's THEOS (God) which could be used for Jesus, Moses and any other God for that matter. But whenever you see THEON it means JEHOVAH (God)

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You shared a Trinitarian manuscript of John 1:1 & Matthew 1:23 where Greek 3588 was omitted and replaced with dash sign -.
Is that action by your Trinitarian mentors not dishonest?

Whereas, Trinitarians did not omit Greek 3588 attached to "Word" @ John 1:1.

Janosky:
Bros, we are talking about the truth in the Greek Bible manuscript joor.
Is Brother Max the Greek Bible manuscript?

@ Greek John 14:1, Jesus Christ says JEHOVAH is Greek 3588 2316 ho Theos.

Greek John 1:1, John wrote that JEHOVAH is ho Theos.

You shared a Trinitarian manuscript of John 1:1 & Matthew 1:23 where Greek 3588 was omitted and replaced with dash sign -.
Is that action by your Trinitarian mentors not dishonest?

Whereas, Trinitarians did not omit Greek 3588 attached to "Word" @ John 1:1.
Compare your manuscript ( 2 Screenshots) and the more genuine manuscript without any omission.