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Re: "It's A Man's Duty To Clean, Cook And Raise The Kids" - Reno by bizzibodi(m): 8:00pm On Sep 04, 2021 |
This man needs to have his dura mata examined....even primitive men who never knew Adam or knows d Bible know it is woman's role to cook,clean d house will men hunt,farm & build shelter. 1 Like |
Re: "It's A Man's Duty To Clean, Cook And Raise The Kids" - Reno by Nobody: 8:01pm On Sep 04, 2021 |
UndauntedYOCA:Exactly.The first line on your signature cracked me up lol. 1 Like |
Re: "It's A Man's Duty To Clean, Cook And Raise The Kids" - Reno by solofresh(m): 8:18pm On Sep 04, 2021 |
saphiere:You be Mumu 1 Like |
Re: "It's A Man's Duty To Clean, Cook And Raise The Kids" - Reno by socialmediaman: 8:29pm On Sep 04, 2021 |
begoniaa: ...as a helper . Sure. You, me and Reno are saying the same thing, so in fact, I don't see the point you're trying to make. Or I get it. I even brought up Legislature/delegated legislature. The latter assists the former, but in actuality, the latter is not an arm of government. Ok this will be long but let me start from here. Reno made very high level statement of fact which is open to misinterpretation. In fact ladies have already started saying being a helper means they can choose to or not....No it's not a choice, it's an assignment, if she can't do it, communicate with him to ensure you both work something out. Also, observe as I keep using the word "role" which means performing that part does not make her less of a woman. Most men like me usually assign that role to her and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that. Remember that the man was doing these things before she came along (because there was no helper). So she does not come into the picture and decide what she wants to do or not, she submits herself to his authority and helps him take up some roles. It is very possible that we (You, Reno, I) are saying the same thing, I don't want to assume. I wish he clarified further by saying the man can assign certain roles to the woman and those become her responsibilities as part of helping him and submitting herself to his God-given authority. So essentially, what I am saying is, It's my job according to Reno, but once I assign it to her, it becomes her job and I can focus on something else. If you and Reno agree with this, then we're all saying the same thing. So what selective perception are you talking about? You crossed out my last post which was made to reinforce my point that assigning a role to the woman makes it her responsibility/duty Outsourcing, which is your point, is simply one of the things you can do, as the 'head', charged with working. You were not giving a superior/counter opinion; I pointed that out and am reiterating it. Just to clarify, outsourcing was not my main point. Delegation to the woman was my main point. If for some reason she can't perform the role, then some men can outsource cooking to a restaurant or food service company, or delegate to someone else, like an employee (domestic helper/worker) I have not disagreed with your "head" submission. Now we're talking The crux of the post is all even how the work is meant for the head, and the helpmeet help. Agreed You realize that this is the classic argument between patriarchs and feminists here? The guys here are just disagreeing with the twist and inclusion Reno brought, that weighs heavily on the side of the head working and serving, etc., rather than only being respected and followed and commanding (the part which majority of men favors). My focus here is in the home. The man is designed to be the head. In a professional setting, the most qualified should be elected or appointed, I don't have a problem with that, and so do many men that I know. In fact, when I see someone with a different opinion about women in the professional or political setting, I disagree respectfully. On the point of the head working and serving, yes I see guys disagreeing with the head working and serving as I also see ladies saying the men can't assign, and should do it themselves (which they can/do if there is no woman to help). I can't argue with everyone, in fact I stop arguing or responding once they become disrespectful because it shows we're not on the same page/level. I try as much as possible to respect people when I argue or disagree with them, but if they can't reciprocate, I move. You're charged to do; the woman is charged to help. Agreed, as long as my point on delegation is understood. I think the world is simpler than we make it look. Consider this scenario below. Lady, you're beautiful and I like you, please join me and help me let's make a home. (Or, hey man, I like you and I think I could be your lady to help you with what you're doing and I think with my help you/we could succeed). Man says "Help me do this and that while I do this and that." She says, "remember I have to work as well to augment your income, this will burn me out quickly. Man says "Ok I will help you with that when I can, to make it easier for you, and If it's too much for me to help, then we can hire someone and delegate, or maybe outsource"..... This is how things should work, and these are the kind of people I roll with, I don't have time for nonsense. In the work place I use words like "please do me a favor", "can you help me get this done"... and I say "thank you" and "I appreciate you" when the work is done. And when what is assigned is not being done, I ask "we agreed that you'll do this right?, why aren't you doing it? or… can you help me get it done please? Is it too much for you, do you need some help? I don't command people though they understand its their job to do what is assigned to them. You don't even have to delegate. She's already meant to help? So you could more or less say the whole works, building, chores, tending, cooking, multiplying, succeeding, etc., are both for you to do. In fact, I love the connotation of equality implied in this Reno's POV that I'm starting to see. So, could you even say now that men and women have the same responsibilities? As commanded by God? You do, I help in doing. Agreed, you don't have to delegate, but most men will. She's there to help and even before marriage we both agree on roles and responsibilities. It's my job as the man to delegate and we both work it out. In fact in many cases, due to the fact that it has been a long standing tradition, the roles are already assumed, no long talk. To your last question about having the same responsibilities, If we can continue along Reno's statement, it's the man's job, but God gave him a helper, and to my point, he delegates some roles to her and she submits herself and takes them willingly, because she's there to help. I also made a point about when the roles become too much, it can be worked out, only cruel men are inconsiderate and want to burn out their wives. We were all raised differently so I don't expect every man to be kind and understanding, it is left for the woman to know what is good for her. Marriage is not by force and I encourage every man to raise their female children to be self sufficient or at least independent of needing a man's money, before getting married, so she can willingly go into marriage knowing the rules and willing to abide by them because she respects the institution, admires him (or is in love with him) and wants to be with him |
Re: "It's A Man's Duty To Clean, Cook And Raise The Kids" - Reno by Gannyradical(m): 8:30pm On Sep 04, 2021 |
See this yeye boy's legs self |
Re: "It's A Man's Duty To Clean, Cook And Raise The Kids" - Reno by CaveAdullam: 8:32pm On Sep 04, 2021 |
Iyaebe: To HELP HIM cook, clean, wash and do all the works while he relax under a short coconut tree receiving fresh air. Hope Reno is still in line with us. |
Re: "It's A Man's Duty To Clean, Cook And Raise The Kids" - Reno by gazza07(m): 8:40pm On Sep 04, 2021 |
Man's is very confuse, hard confuse Trentee4eva: |
Re: "It's A Man's Duty To Clean, Cook And Raise The Kids" - Reno by slimmax: 8:57pm On Sep 04, 2021 |
JovialJune:Aunty stop making a fool of your self , go to the same bible and read about the virtous woman � A wise woman builds her home , a foolish woman pulls it down 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: "It's A Man's Duty To Clean, Cook And Raise The Kids" - Reno by Nobody: 10:01pm On Sep 04, 2021 |
JovialJune: Prov31 on a virtuous woman Verse 15- She riseth also while it is yet night, and giveth meat to her household, and a portion to her maidens. 1 Like |
Re: "It's A Man's Duty To Clean, Cook And Raise The Kids" - Reno by razible5384(m): 10:05pm On Sep 04, 2021 |
JovialJune:i will assume this to be a joke 1 Like |
Re: "It's A Man's Duty To Clean, Cook And Raise The Kids" - Reno by offiahvictor(m): 11:19pm On Sep 04, 2021 |
saphiere:don't allow Reno mislead you. I love you so much that I wouldn't want your marriage to crash. thank me later. |
Re: "It's A Man's Duty To Clean, Cook And Raise The Kids" - Reno by offiahvictor(m): 11:21pm On Sep 04, 2021 |
Gannyradical:hahahaha hehehe Gannyradical:hahahaha hehehe 1 Like |
Re: "It's A Man's Duty To Clean, Cook And Raise The Kids" - Reno by offiahvictor(m): 11:22pm On Sep 04, 2021 |
saphiere:Mumu talk, except Bible verses. |
Re: "It's A Man's Duty To Clean, Cook And Raise The Kids" - Reno by newdawn2017(f): 11:45pm On Sep 04, 2021 |
Goldbw122:Why do hate clear truths ?? He has said nothing but d gospel truths here. Its not me a man will enslave that way shaa as I ve come to enlightenment dis way. Black men be nightmares & slave drivers to their fellow black sister. Watch them become normal responsible & humble human beings as soon as they marry white women abroad orbring them back here. 1 Like |
Re: "It's A Man's Duty To Clean, Cook And Raise The Kids" - Reno by newdawn2017(f): 11:48pm On Sep 04, 2021 |
saphiere:Black African males please. |
Re: "It's A Man's Duty To Clean, Cook And Raise The Kids" - Reno by newdawn2017(f): 11:53pm On Sep 04, 2021 |
Pierocash:keep kid urself & reading d bible upside down. Raising kids is the man's place & directing them in dway of Jehovah his wife will support him when he is not around & have gone to d fields to toil, his wife will follow things up. |
Re: "It's A Man's Duty To Clean, Cook And Raise The Kids" - Reno by ume1000: 12:20am On Sep 05, 2021 |
JovialJune:why don't you provide for the family then 1 Like |
Re: "It's A Man's Duty To Clean, Cook And Raise The Kids" - Reno by Nobody: 12:24am On Sep 05, 2021 |
newdawn2017: What Bible upside down is he turning your duty is irreversible except you are not a virtuous woman, to the kitchen you belong For clarity read the whole chapter emphasis on Prov31:15 on a virtuous woman She riseth also while it is yet night, and giveth meat to her household, and a portion to her maidens. 3 Likes |
Re: "It's A Man's Duty To Clean, Cook And Raise The Kids" - Reno by ume1000: 12:30am On Sep 05, 2021 |
JovialJune:how about the man provide the finance at his own discretion if the must fund the home you must do your part Every organization is founded on rules and roles The legislature (unlike in Nigeria ) does not make laws at its own discretion Neither does the judiciary nor the executive they follow the Constitution Perhaps you want your marriage to be synonymous to the Nigerian community. Where people act by instinct ( 1 Like |
Re: "It's A Man's Duty To Clean, Cook And Raise The Kids" - Reno by DaInferno(m): 12:31am On Sep 05, 2021 |
Pierocash:am taking this comment to that page 1 Like |
Re: "It's A Man's Duty To Clean, Cook And Raise The Kids" - Reno by EMMALEX4REAL: 12:33am On Sep 05, 2021 |
Dis one is looking for home to break dont try dis at home where patience ozokwor is ur moda inlaw 1 Like |
Re: "It's A Man's Duty To Clean, Cook And Raise The Kids" - Reno by ume1000: 12:37am On Sep 05, 2021 |
JovialJune:forget about his mother You just confirmEd you have no usefulness in a marriage other than your rotten overdrilled borehole 1 Like |
Re: "It's A Man's Duty To Clean, Cook And Raise The Kids" - Reno by ume1000: 12:43am On Sep 05, 2021 |
LilMissFavvy:cause that's what he is Post like his are the reasons for the ever high divorce rate in the us Post like this encourage homosexuality (as women would likely craze mens role and vice versa) |
Re: "It's A Man's Duty To Clean, Cook And Raise The Kids" - Reno by BRATISLAVA: 12:56am On Sep 05, 2021 |
socialmediaman: Where and where is this clearly stated in your Bible? Or is it the over flogged and misinterpreted passage on submission that men don't read beyond? The failure of most marriages lies with men. They are always ducking responsibility and trying to push it on the wife. What kind of "boss" cannot accept responsibility for the organizations state of disrepair? Instead they butress poor leadership with submission in the most irresponsible and callow manner. Reno has said something men don't like, so they will demonize him. What he said is the truth, though. Modern men are weak and bicker endlessly. They want women to do everything for them. They cannot ever be the "boss", if such a thing exists. 1 Like |
Re: "It's A Man's Duty To Clean, Cook And Raise The Kids" - Reno by BRATISLAVA: 1:04am On Sep 05, 2021 |
Sleekfingers: The poorer men are, the more entitled they feel to using women. One can't blame their views, because that's poverty speaking. They usually hide behind religion. 3 Likes |
Re: "It's A Man's Duty To Clean, Cook And Raise The Kids" - Reno by ume1000: 1:06am On Sep 05, 2021 |
JovialJune:if you name a pet given to your by your parent Would you call such a pet your equal The woman was made for the man (cause the man was lonely) The woman was made after the man The woman was named by the man The woman was taken from the man ( Jesus said and qoute "greater is he that giveth than he that receiveth " Contrary to popular belief no two things are made equal , equating every thing on Earth would bring life to a stall For instance the poor work hard to be rich (imagine what would happen if everyone was rich) Trying to urpser the man as head of the home Would work only if you are married to a weakling There never can be two captains in a ship The earth moves rolves the sun cause it's bigger and stronger (has more gravitional force) imagine they where equals ( there would be no day and night, no seasons ) The black hole keeps the Galaxy in stability It's called the natural order discrupting such orderliness often leads to chaos and confusion as seen in usa of today(with people confuse on their sexuality ) Such confusion in a home would only breed homosexual offsprings( children who find it difficult to distinguish their sexuality) 1 Like |
Re: "It's A Man's Duty To Clean, Cook And Raise The Kids" - Reno by BRATISLAVA: 1:07am On Sep 05, 2021 |
streetfabulous: Forget about delegation. What are his responsibilities? Or will he keep delegating to evade his duties? A leader who cannot answer to doing anything isn't a leader. How can a head be unable to do anything? Is it now the weaker vessel that has all the strength to carry out the delegations that the head is running from? The way men twist and turn the Bible to keep themselves as beneficiaries of women's labor is pathetic. Whoever told men that cleaning and hard labor in the home is for women lied to them. It's men who are to sweat and labor for their living, not women. According to the same Bible. But men don't want that, hence all the delegation talk. Who doesn't like good things. 1 Like |
Re: "It's A Man's Duty To Clean, Cook And Raise The Kids" - Reno by socialmediaman: 2:02am On Sep 05, 2021 |
BRATISLAVA: The word “boss” was used hypothetically there to explain role delegation. I suggest you follow the arguments with the person I quoted to understand the points made. But since you raised the point on submission, check out the verses below for biblical reference. Also, check out this post I made with many clarifications on this topic: https://www.nairaland.com/6735274/mans-duty-clean-cook-raise/6#105494112 Verses: 1 Corinthians 11:3 KJV. But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God. Ephesians 5:23 KJV. For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body. Ephesians 5:22-24 KJV. Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body. Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing. 1 Like |
Re: "It's A Man's Duty To Clean, Cook And Raise The Kids" - Reno by Navalsadiq(m): 2:51am On Sep 05, 2021 |
I have told you guys that this man is jobless 1 Like |
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