Kobojunkie:
Galatians is not God's Law but instead Paul's view expressed in His letter to the Christians in Galatia.

Again, it is against God's Law to add or remove or even even any commandment....Jesus Christ is God's Law. Any idea that contradicts or adds additional commandments to that which He gave us and finished on the cross is instead against God .I.e. AntiChrist.

Twists all you want the bible is one and whole.

In John 14:12, Jesus says whoever believes in Him will do not only the works that He did, but even greater works.

You can never believe in homosexuality and Christ at the same time.

Romans 8:3-4 For what the Law could not do, weak as it was through the flesh, God did: sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh and as an offering for sin, he condemned sin in the flesh, so that the requirement of the Law might be fulfilled in us, who do not walk according to the flesh but according to the Spirit. For those who are according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh, but those who are according to the Spirit, the things of the Spirit.


Genesis 2:24: “For this cause a man shall leave his father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife; and the two shall become one flesh” (Matt. 19:5 AT; . Mark 10:7–8 )

Jesus affirmed the covenanted union of one man and one woman as the only normative expression of human sexuality.

Kobojunkie:
There is no deviation here since Jesus Christ, the one who is God's Law , never said any of that to you. That idea is a lie born on man's conceit and not of God.

Best to leave God out of these things or else His Truth might end up shocking you.

Matthew 19

3 And Pharisees came up to him and rtested him by asking, s“Is it lawful to divorce one’s wife for any cause?” 4 He answered, t“Have you not read that he who created them from the beginning made them male and femal[/b]e, 5 and said, u‘T[b]herefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife, and vthe two shall become one flesh’?

Morningblues:
Love wins: What do you guys think.

I have a question to ask

Can adult human males produce eggs and adult human females produce sperms

free2ryhme:

Twists all you want the bible is one and whole.
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Jesus affirmed the covenanted union of one man and one woman as the only normative expression of human sexuality.

I had to filter out your attempts at twisting scripture to get to the one statement that actually matters some.

Jesus Christ is God's New Covenant Law in the Kingdom of God so this Law is not for those in the world but for those who belong in the Kingdom of God. What Jesus Christ affirmed in Matthew 19 vs 5 - 6 is God's Law as far as the marriage contract concerns individuals in the Kingdom of God. Those who are not of Him are not subject to the same Law.

P.S. Please be aware that a Christian has no right given him by God or Jesus Christ to go around imposing his or her Christian ideas or beliefs on those in the world - already condemned by God.
It is foolishness to require that the world be modeled after Jesus Christ when Jesus Christ Himself made it clear that His Kingdom is NOT of this world.

free2ryhme:

Matthew 19

3 And Pharisees came up to him and rtested him by asking, s“Is it lawful to divorce one’s wife for any cause?” 4 He answered, t“Have you not read that he who created them from the beginning made them male and femal[/b]e, 5 and said, u‘T[b]herefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife, and vthe two shall become one flesh’?

Did Jesus Christ tell you that He came to give even this law to the world?

Kobojunkie:
I had to filter out your attempts at twisting scripture to get to the one statement that actually matters some.

Jesus Christ is God's New Covenant Law in the Kingdom of God so this Law is not for those in the world but for those who belong in the Kingdom of God. What Jesus Christ affirmed in Matthew 19 vs 5 - 6 is God's Law as far as the marriage contract concerns individuals in the Kingdom of God. Those who are not of Him are not subject to the same Law.

P.S. Please be aware that a Christian has no right given him by God or Jesus Christ to go around imposing his or her Christian ideas or beliefs on those in the world.
It is foolishness to require that the world be modeled after Jesus Christ when Jesus Christ Himself made it clear that His Kingdom is NOT of this world.

No one is imposing any idea. As Christians our lives should be guided by God' s word.

Yet this topic we discuss has found its way even to the pulpit and certain denominations are accepting these practices as normal to conform to with the world . It should not be

If Christ's stand is one man and a woman I believe this should be the basis for any relation not some immoral contraptions.

Also sin is sin whether be it corruption, killings, sexual immorality etc

Kobojunkie:
Did Jesus Christ tell you that He came to give even this law to the world?

God gave His laws to help people love God with all their hearts and minds.


Jesus said, “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished” (Matthew 5:17–18).

free2ryhme:
1. No one is imposing any idea. As Christians our lives should be guided by God' s word.

2. Yet this topic we discuss has found its way even to the pulpit and certain denominations are accepting these practices as normal to conform to with the world . It should not be

3. If Christ's stand is one man and a woman I believe this should be the basis for any relation not some immoral contraptions.

4. Also sin is sin whether be it corruption, killings, sexual immorality etc

1. I agree that the personal lives of each one who belongs to the Kingdom of God ought to be lived in accordance with the Law, Jesus Christ.

2.However, you attempt to muddle things up by attempting to bring in issues that concern your churches, which themselves are of this world, and not of the Kingdom of God. Your churches are what I like to call 'glorified business entities registered and run by men specifically for the advancement of the goals of men - they are in no way connected with the Church of Jesus Christ which He states is built by His person.

3. Jesus Christ's law is the basis only for those who belong in His Kingdom- not for those in the world who refuse Jesus Christ.

4. Also, sin is not arbitrarily defined. God alone is the one who has authority to define for us that which is sin. And according to His Law, it is sin to depict as sin that which God Himself has not defined as such.
In the Kingdom of God, Sexual immorality is as defined by Jesus Christ and His law as regards such sin is as stated in both Matthew 5 vs 27 - 32 and Matthew 19 vs 1 - 12.

Remember, no man has power to add to or remove from God's Law

free2ryhme:
1. God gave His laws to help people love God with all their hearts and minds.

Jesus said, “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished” (Matthew 5:17–18).

God's Old Covenant Law of Moses, which is the Law that Jesus Christ referred to in the verse 17, was given by God specifically to those who have the blood of Jacob coursing through their veins - Deuteronomy 30 vs 15 - 20 .

God's New Covenant Law, Jesus Christ, is given by God to individuals/ whosoever - not people, nor groups or nations - who will believe in Him, John 3 vs 16

Morningblues:


You re a cis straight person, telling other people how they were born and weren’t born, you have no right to speak on something you know nothing about nor have you live through, and how do you know the natural order of life, some principles your parent taught you from outdated times. If you point is nobody is born a lesbian is simply ignorant and you should keep it to yourself. Live and let live.

But you have a moral right to condemn and judge straight people over their opinions and sexual orientation but won’t tolerate same over yours?

Isn’t that hypocritical?

Kobojunkie:
1. I agree that the personal lives of each one who belongs to the Kingdom of God ought to be lived in accordance with the Law, Jesus Christ.

2.However, you attempt to muddle things up by attempting to bring in issues that concern your churches, which themselves are of this world, and not of the Kingdom of God. Your churches are what I like to call 'glorified business entities registered and run by men specifically for the advancement of the goals of men - they are in no way connected with the Church of Jesus Christ which He states is built by His person.

3. Jesus Christ's law is the basis only for those who belong in His Kingdom- not for those in the world who refuse Jesus Christ.

4. Also, sin is not arbitrarily defined. God alone is the one who has authority to define for us that which is sin. And according to His Law, it is sin to depict as sin that which God Himself has not defined as such.
In the Kingdom of God, Sexual immorality is as defined by Jesus Christ and His law as regards such sin is as stated in both Matthew 5 vs 27 - 32 and Matthew 19 vs 1 - 12.

Remember, no man has power to add to or remove from God's Law

God and Jesus gave basis for all relationship in Genesis and Matthew a man and a woman

The word of God tells Christians what Sin is, Homosexuality is one of them.


Aggressive minorities ( supporter of LGBT+) should not force their views down our throats

Morningblues:


Christians alway cherry pick what to support and what not to support. The government should criminalize fornication, Adultery,lying and other Things their Bible condemn, They will start crying fire and brimstone. Because lgbt doesn’t concern most of them that why they re hateful

Is it just about Christianity?
Do you think your forebears would have supported all you said before the advent of Christianity? Do you think the African traditional culture would have clapped at young unmarried people brazenly ( not secretly) engaging in those you listed there?

Stop judging Christians based on their opinions when you condemn their opinions about your sexual orientation. It is hypocritical to do that.
You think they should’ve judge and express opinions. Yet you think you have the sole prerogative to judge and express your opinions.
That’s wrong

bukatyne:


How did the moniker you quoted display hate?

Someone said 'something is wrong': does that translate to hate for the perpetrator?

She even added that God hates homosexuality and loves the homosexual; yet you mention hate.

Can I also accuse you of hating heterosexual people?

Thank goodness you are not a Christian.

The wonder is professing Christians who sees nothing wrong with homosexuality under the guise of feminism.

Great response!

free2ryhme:

1. God and Jesus gave basis for all relationship in Genesis and Matthew a man and a woman

2. The word of God tells Christians what Sin is, Homosexuality is one of them.

3. Aggressive minorities ( supporter of LGBT+) should not force their views down our throats

1. God gave basis for all relationships in Genesis. Man fell, God condemned man to die as a result of the fall.

Jesus Christ then came to offer individual man redemption and a chance to reclaim that original glory, this by offering to each man, not all of mankind as before, a new Law and Kingdom to live for.

2. Jesus Christ is the Word of God and Jesus Christ never indicated homosexuality as sin. Instead He listed as sin Lust in one's heart as sin, indicating that marriage is a contract between a man and a woman.
3. I ain't supporting any one except doing what Jesus Christ commanded I do which is that I love my neighbor as I love my own self, loving my enemies more.

Nothingserious:

Stop judging Christians based on their opinions when you condemn their opinions about your sexual orientation. It is hypocritical to do that.
You think they should’ve judge and express opinions. Yet you think you have the sole prerogative to judge and express your opinions.
That’s wrong

But according to Jesus Christ, Christians are meant to not judge based on their personal opinion but are instead to judge righteously, this based on Jesus Christ's teachings and commandments to them.

Kobojunkie:
1. God gave basis for all relationships in Genesis. Man fell, God condemned man to die as a result of the fall.

Jesus Christ then came to offer individual man redemption and a chance to reclaim that original glory, this by offering to each man, not all of mankind as before, a new Law and Kingdom to live for.

2. Jesus Christ is the Word of God and Jesus Christ never indicated homosexuality as sin. Instead He listed as sin Lust in one's heart as sin, indicating that marriage is a contract between a man and a woman.
3. I ain't supporting any one except doing what Jesus Christ commanded I do which is that I love my neighbor as I love my own self, loving my enemies more.

Homosexuality is sin but there is grace to mend their ways with Christ

You are sitting on the fence. Jesus spoke the truth and not lace it with sweet words.

You are more of a sympathizer

free2ryhme:
1. Homosexuality is since but there is grace to mend their ways with Christ

You are sitting on the fence. Jesus spoke the truth and not lace it with sweet words.

You are more of a sympathizer

Again, Jesus Christ never listed homosexuality as sin. And this can be verified by searching through His teachings and commandments as written of in the Gospels.

P.S. there were also homosexuals during the time and days of Jesus Christ, yet not once did he launch an attack against the group or the sinners of His day.

Kobojunkie:
God's Old Covenant Law of Moses, which is the Law that Jesus Christ referred to in the verse 17, was given by God specifically to those who have the blood of Jacob coursing through their veins - Deuteronomy 30 vs 15 - 20 .

God's New Covenant Law, Jesus Christ, is given by God to individuals/ whosoever - not people, nor groups or nations - who will believe in Him, John 3 vs 16

You guys will always weave your way around so you dont offend others where is bothers on choosing a stand between good and bad.



Continue...

Kobojunkie:
Again, Jesus Christ never listed homosexuality as sin. And this can be verified by searching through His teachings and commandments as written of in the Gospels.

P.S. there were also homosexuals during the time and days of Jesus Christ, yet not once did he launch an attack against the group or the sinners of His day.

He said a man and a woman anything contrary is from the devil.


Even in the times of Paul there was homosexuality and he condemned it

free2ryhme:
You guys will always weave your way around so you dont offend others where is bothers on choosing a stand between good and bad.
Continue...

Here's a challenge... rather than accuse me of weaving.... point out the weave so we can hash it out.

Kobojunkie:
Here's a challenge... rather than accuse me of weaving.... point out the weave so we can hash it out.

I don't have strength.

Anything contrary to God's word should be thrown into the trash.

You keep pushing a perception that it is fine to accept homosexuality.

Mind you the aspect that I am interested if is the individual genuinely believe Christ died not adore such lifestyle and is willing to make amends with God.

free2ryhme:
He said a man and a woman anything contrary is from the devil.

Again, that is the definition of the marriage contract for those who belong in the Kingdom of God.
Those who do not belong in the Kingdom of God are not under that law.

free2ryhme:

I don't have strength.
Anything contrary to God's word should be thrown into the trash.
You keep pushing a perception that it is fine to accept homosexuality.
Mind you the aspect that I am interested if is the individual genuinely believe Christ died not adore such lifestyle and is willing to make amends with God.

God's Word, Jesus Christ, told you that His Kingdom is not of this world. So you attempting to impose that which is of the Kingdom of God on those who are instead of this world are in violation of God Word.

Jesus Christ said those who belong to Him live in this world but are not of this world. So again, you going around pretending that you have authority to impose Jesus Christ, God's New Covenant laws, on those who God has already judged and condemned is against God's ruling.

Kobojunkie:
Again, that is the definition of the marriage contract for those who belong in the Kingdom of God.

Those who do not belong in the Kingdom of God are not under that law.

For those who choose to do otherwise well it is up to them and their ways


I am not forcing my views except I see something contrary and take a stand. Likewise the aggressive minority should not force their views even on others too

free2ryhme:
For those who choose to do otherwise well it is up to them and their ways
I am not forcing my views except I see something contrary and take a stand. Likewise the aggressive minority should not force their views even on others too

You force your view on them when you judge them by a standard that is not even of their world.

Kobojunkie:
But according to Jesus Christ, Christians are meant to not judge based on their personal opinion but are instead to judge righteously, this based on Jesus Christ's teachings and commandments to them.

Lol! This is nice and smart. Thanks for pointing that out.

However pointing out the ills to someone for correction isn’t same as judging the person.
A Christian can criticize and correct as encouraged by the Bible.

By the way, my idea was just on a homosexual being critical of the sexual orientation of a straight person and even hating on straight persons but turning around to say a straight person had no right to comment on his/her sexual orientation. It looks a bit hypocritical.

Nothingserious:
Lol! This is nice and smart. Thanks for pointing that out.

1. However pointing out the ills to someone for correction isn’t same as judging the person.
A Christian can criticize and correct as encouraged by the Bible.

2. By the way, my idea was just on a homosexual being critical of the sexual orientation of a straight person and even hating on straight persons but turning around to say a straight person had no right to comment on his/her sexual orientation. It looks a bit hypocritical.

1. A person who happens to be a Christian can indeed criticize as any anonymous individual can - we are humans and we have opinions on issues too, but the moment you bring up the fact that you are Christian or you bring God into the discussion, then you are required to judge righteously.

2. The mistake made in that came when they dragged God and Christianity into that muck. Not saying God sees it the same way because God expects all those who belong to Him to live in continual submission to and obedience of His teachings and commandments all of the times.

Kobojunkie:
You force your view on them when you judge them by a standard that is not even of their world.

I am telling them to stop forcing sin and immorality down our throats.

free2ryhme:

I am telling them to stop forcing sin and immorality down our throats.

You, who are of the Kingdom of God(not of the world) live in their world yet you claim that they are forcing sin and immorality down your throats?

Kobojunkie:
1. A person who happens to be a Christian can indeed criticize as any anonymous individual can - we are humans and we have opinions on issues too, but the moment you bring up the fact that you are Christian or you bring God into the discussion, then you are required to judge righteously.

2. The mistake made in that came when they dragged God and Christianity into that muck. Not saying God sees it the same way because God expects all those who belong to Him to live in continual submission to and obedience of His teachings and commandments all of the times.

God abhors homosexuality of all kind. Why shld someone force it on our kids, TV shows and programmes and lifestyles. What is the agenda.

God has been censored on every broadcasts and they push for witchcraft and scorcery on TV programmes even in cartoons. If that is not extreme to you then I don't know you think you are saying

Kobojunkie:
You, who are of the Kingdom of God(not of the world) live in their world yet you claim that they are forcing sin and immorality down your throats?

I am of the kingdom of God does not mean I should not take a stand btw good and evil while on earth.

free2ryhme:
God abhors homosexuality of all kind. Why shld someone force it on our kids, TV shows and programmes and lifestyles. What is the agenda.

God has been censored on every broadcasts and they push for witchcraft and scorcery on TV programmes even in cartoons. If that is not extreme to you then I don't know you think you are saying

If God wanted to be on your TV, He would have built His own TV station from Heaven down or even added a law mandating we built Him one. Alas, God never did that so I am not certain what you are whining about.

As for those shows that pretend to be of God that you have gotten yourselves into watching, did God sanction any of them from Heaven for you to consider them of to be God? Even those preachers you watch on TV, did God tell you that He sanctioned any of them or are you not deceiving yourself believing they are sent or sanctioned by Him?