| Re: Marginalisation: Women Playing The Victim Cards by FreeIgboho: 5:57pm On Oct 13, 2021 |
pansophist:
Rubbish. Total, arrant, rubbish.
Using your logic, Nigeria is 50% men, how many women are electric pole climbers, shit packers, truck drivers, thief catchers, bricklayers, panel beaters, cow killers and more ? All my life, I've never seen women do these jobs. A question for you Mr equality, do you know any women that applied for these jobs that was rejected? Just one?
One more thing to add, the Scandinavia is praised as being the region on earth where gender equality is a reality of life. The government in Sweden comprises of women mostly even, just go to youtube and search for "Swedish House of assembly", its mostly women. Still, women don't do this jobs. Infact it is proven that the more equal a society becomes, then the work disparity widens.
Men still earn more than women everywhere because men do the jobs women don't want to do. Everywhere, there are advertisement about recruiting more women in STEM fields, but few applies. Now put advert about models needed, then it would be filled with women. The failure to accept that men and women are not the same, and also do not want the same thing is the basis for expecting 50/50 everywhere.
Nonsense
You are making my point! All those are jobs that put food on the table and women are systemically excluded from them! Yet u are insisting they contribute to family expenses equal to men. How hard is it to drive a taxi? But women are systemically excluded from it by societal expectations not because it is hard! 3 Likes |
| Re: Marginalisation: Women Playing The Victim Cards by cococandy(f): 5:59pm On Oct 13, 2021 |
They are no longer useless and leeches pocohantas:
The good thing about this thread is, suddenly MOST Nigerian women are doing well educationally and career-wise.
Suddenly, most NL guys would know rich independent women.
I am very grateful for this thread. I don’t want to see anyone say Nigerian ladies are dull and jobless again.  3 Likes |
| Re: Marginalisation: Women Playing The Victim Cards by reddingtonblack: 5:59pm On Oct 13, 2021 |
DoggoneDogg:
It is a FACT that female entertainers make more money than their male counterparts. Men are not complaining because entertainment is more or less a female thing.
However, in fields related to men like football & contact sports for example, you women STILL claim to be marginalized.
This is pure hypocrisy & manipulation.
This is exactly why female achievements are not regarded as credible because there is that lingering notion that she may have gotten it by cheating. The only problem i have with your post is the word i cancelled, pls alway chose the real fact above your fact. the highest paid musicians remains the male. talk of; wizkid, davido, burna boy, mr eazi, olamide, flavour, kiss daniel respectively, before we now have aunty tiwa savage we hope are sextape boost are to 3rd or 4th, maybe d marginalisation noise go reduce sef  |
| Re: Marginalisation: Women Playing The Victim Cards by Nobody: 5:59pm On Oct 13, 2021 |
Godoverevery:
What is the point of sending a female child to school and empowering her if at the end of it all she still feels marginalised.
Right from my primary school in the early 90's till this point I always competit with ladies on the same level ground...nothing was given to me freely because am a man.
Is really annoying that people like ini edo and co will always come out to play the same old card of African female child/women are marginalised....this am a woman change is a total nonsense because is fellow women that mocks themselves.
I will be analysing every sector and section of social life to prove this old lies wrong
Education
Just take a look around you and tell me which female child is actually stopped from going to school because of her gender......Right from my primary school untill university there were more female student than the male......we receive the same quality of Education so were the marginalisation??
Work/job
Currently in nigeria is easy for a woman to get a job than a man.....Apart from the engineering sector which is dominated by the male most sector is dominated by the female(banks,medical,hotels,entertainment)...so were the marginalisation.
Politics
Nobody gifts anyone an elective post anywhere in the world rather you fight for it....Men fight for it with blood and sweat so if a woman wants to hold this post she must be ready to fight not expecting to be handed over on a platter.
If a woman should come out to contest for elective post in this country even her fellow women won't vote for her....so were is the marginalisation
Entertainment
Is no news apart from music which men dominant the movie industry is dominated by the female who make more money than the male....people like ini edo won't question why they are paid more than there male colleagues in the same profession.
Relationship/marriage
Today in nigeria if you can not provide for your family u are useless man.....even in ordinary relationship a lady will expect you to provide things she needs..No money No love yet they still complain and play victim card.
They can't date broke guys but will expect well to do guys to date a lady who can't even do a 1k sub for herself......they only have the right to choose but not men......were is the marginalisation
In marriage you pay to marry her,you provide shelter, food,clothing etc...if the marriage crash you pay child support.....A full adult totally dependent on another and still feel she meant to be equal with him......were is the marginalisation
State and federal government pays equally to both gender on the same level
Private sector pays equally to both gender on the same level.
I have a lil sis.....there was nothing I enjoy or had that she didn't get from our parent.....I challenge any lady here to tell me how she was treated inferior to her brothers.
What is the point of sending a female child to school from primary to higher institution and at the end of the day she will be totally dependent on the man and will always feel she isn't given enough to be independent.
The moment we start debunking the lies and stop victim mentality the better for the next generation of girls.....this lies is the reason why most our ladies are unproductive and lazy.
Help the female child by letting her know she can do it on her own.....she can competit and no one can stop her except herself.
Women stop spreading the message of victim mentality/marginalisation to our girls this 2021 not 1960.
I see that this thread was created to incite the never-ending gender wars but anyways... First things first, it's quite ironic you proudly claim females are not marginalized in a third world country (with its widespread poverty and ranking 133 in gender equality index) which is heavily traditional/custom-based and religious (the two being major culprits for female subjugation). According to Statista, literacy rate in urban areas in Nigeria is 86% for males and 74% for females and this is not even factoring rural areas, to paint an overall picture of the differences between education rates for both sexes because let's face it, the gap would be much wider due to traditions, customs, religion etc that relegates women to just the kitchen and marriage alone. Take the north for instance, were it is acceptable to marry off girl children at the onset of puberty and education not being emphasized/encouraged for females. That, In and of itself, is marginalization. Make no mistake though, the north isn't the only region were females are barred from accessing education. So your point doesn't hold much weight. And to prove my point: Access to education for school-age girls in Nigeria is also low. Statistics from Nigeria’s Universal Basic Education Commission (UBEC) showed that males had higher enrolment numbers for basic education as of 2018. Also, in the 2019 West African Senior School Certificate Examination (WASSCE) in Nigeria, only 48.30% per cent of the total number of candidates were female. However, Nigeria girls have shown incredible excellence in potential. According to UBEC, females had the most basic education promotion and completion rates. Also, 50.23% of the candidates who got five credits inclusive of English and Mathematics in 2019 WASSCE were female.Source: dataphyte.com In the area of work/job, how is it much easier for a female to get one and not a male? Can you provide statistics or a study that supports your line of argument? Because with the crippling economy and high unemployment, how is it possible at all for ANYONE to get a job. A simple Google search is all it takes for you to not be ignorant. Findings further reveal a gender discrepancy in economic empowerment. According to the United Nations Development Programme, Nigerian women only earn 77 cents for every dollar that men get for the same work. This means that a Nigerian woman would earn ₦7,700 for a ₦10,000 job. In fact, even though women comprise slightly less than 50% of Nigeria’s population, they account for over 70% of those in extreme poverty. Another manifestation of the economic inequality experienced by Nigerian women is financial exclusion. As much as seven in 10 Nigerian women do not own bank accounts and more than half of them are financially excluded. Also, while women accounted for most of Nigeria’s agricultural workforce (75% in 2014), they represent only 13% of agricultural landowners.
Source: dataphyte.com And even when they are employed, females still face discrimination. This is an abstract from a study: [b] The need to reduce the gender pay gap is an ongoing concern in developing countries. One aspect of gender inequality that is often neglected is the gender pay differential in the public and private sectors. In Nigeria, the structure and employee entry into public and private sectors differ significantly and could constitute a source of pay gap. This study decomposed the wage gap individually in the public and private sectors in Nigeria in 2009 using the Blinder–Oaxaca and quantile decomposition methods. The findings point to a smaller gender pay gap in the public sector compared to the private sector, due to better educational qualifications and higher income stream arising from longer stay in the workforce. Discrimination accounts for a significant portion of gender wage gap, although it is larger in the private sector. Women selection bias is a prominent factor in the private sector, while it is not much of a concern in the public sector. The results also show the existence of glass ceiling in the public sector and sticky floor in the private sector. Policies to address discrimination against women either in wage setting or hiring process should be introduced in both sectors. Increased participation of women in the private sector through creation of women-friendly jobs should be promoted in order to close the wage gap. Mandatory compliance with minimum wage regulations in the private sector should be enforced to attract more women to the sector and therefore narrow the wage gap at the bottom. [/b] Source: link.springer.com A quick Google search nullifies all your points In the area of politics [b]There are multiple factors. Some are related to the political party systems and structures. For instance, the high cost of politics prevents women from standing for positions. Often women don’t have enough money to pay for the mandatory expression of interest and nomination forms required by political parties to run for positions on their platforms. In addition, election campaign costs are exorbitant. And poor access to education means poor access to gainful employment. Unpaid labour burdens, unequal inheritance rights and outright discrimination also mean that women are less likely to be able to afford to follow through the process of getting leadership positions. There are also societal factors that impede women’s representation. They include cultural or religious norms surrounding marriage, indigeneship – a concept that recognises only ethnic groups native to a particular state – and the structures that portray women as subordinate to men. Even educated women face hindrances. They encounter gender stereotypes that assign leadership to men, sexual assault, pay gaps and unpaid labour, including child care and housework, placing them at a disadvantage. There is also a lack of political will and effective government action. The media give poor coverage to female candidates. It’s not the same as the coverage men get. Women candidates are often subjected to gender related electoral violence, threats and hate speech because of the perception that women want to get what is traditionally men’s. Why is representation of women in politics important? As about half of the population are women, their participation will create a balance of power between genders. This is an indicator of development in any society. Over the years, I’ve witnessed a rise in the number of women serving in elected and appointed political position, the world over. But that is not the case for Nigerian women. The full and equitable participation of women in public life is essential to building and sustaining strong, vibrant democracies. When women are not participating in politics, it’s less likely that policies will benefit them. Women need to participate to bring attention to issues that uniquely affect them, and to change attitudes towards gender. [/b] Source: theconversation.com A quick and simple Google search In the area of Marriage You lot act like you're doing women a favour when you marry them. You literally do not. Both women and men are providers in marriage because most households are dual-income. The wife literally has more burdens because she majorly takes care of the kids, cleans the house and still goes to work. You men are so whiny, grow up! A simple Google search nullifies all your points. You're just an ignoramus. 4 Likes 1 Share |
| Re: Marginalisation: Women Playing The Victim Cards by Deserea: 6:01pm On Oct 13, 2021 |
SenecaTheYonger:
Presidents are not chosen based on law and culture but by law and politics. Nobody is going to throw a crown on a woman and call her president without her getting in the mud and fighting it out with other candidates
Pls stop replying that clo.wn |
| Re: Marginalisation: Women Playing The Victim Cards by FreeIgboho: 6:02pm On Oct 13, 2021 |
PrimadonnaO:
You know you've not said anything, yeah?
How has the paternalistic society stopped women from aspiring to be Presidentz et al? By conditioning and expectations, that's how. Human beings don't aspire to things you've conditioned them to believe from childhood is beyond them. Only the rare woman indeed can overcome such conditioning 2 Likes |
| Re: Marginalisation: Women Playing The Victim Cards by cococandy(f): 6:03pm On Oct 13, 2021 |
DoggoneDogg:
So why was Ini Edo complaining?? It may surprise you to know that people speak on issues not necessarily because it affects them directly but because those who are affected may not have the voice and reach to make the changes they need. Very surprising 4 Likes |
| Re: Marginalisation: Women Playing The Victim Cards by SenecaTheYonger: 6:05pm On Oct 13, 2021 |
FreeIgboho:
But they can systemically discourage her right from birth to even think of aspiring to such No they can’t. Stop looking for excuses. 2 Likes |
| Re: Marginalisation: Women Playing The Victim Cards by YoungRay007: 6:07pm On Oct 13, 2021 |
Arelyn:
O.P, you are fast about this as I was planning to write something about this Ini Edo comment during the course of the weekend....
The truth is this ideology is one of the major problem that is destroying our society. Women playing this victim card has encouraged the formulation of loads of societal policies to protect them like an endangered specie while men has to pick the crumbs off the table
Success is not handed out to men on a platter of gold, in short men do engage in unhealthy competition amongst themselves to get to the top but naturally concede excellence or success to a woman that can show enough grit and determination
I work in IT field and can tell you men are not doing better than woman that believe their success lies upstairs in their brains and not in between their legs. It is more natural for a determined lady to get to the pinnacle of her career compared to a man that has to fight both tooth and nail to get recognition for his effort among the sea of men in similar space
After careful study and a bit of anecdotal experience, I realized that the statement tries to provide comfort or solace for ladies with lazy mentality and mediocrity ideology. They blame failure on their environment or society without recognition of their gross incompetence in the management of opportunities around them
In present day times compared to many years back in Nigeria, it's is much easier to solicit for sex with money or affluence because we are blessed with a large chuck of women that don't want to try but use every form of packaging to present prostitution in a acceptable and less demaging manner which is quite obvious in her- Ini Edo's, sector of the economy
Anytime you hear people say that around, tell them to make research on the percentage of women enrolling in traditionally male dominated courses and see how well they are doing, the number of female financial institutions CEO in Nigeria and the world at large speaks volume of my submission
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| Re: Marginalisation: Women Playing The Victim Cards by EjaikreTheViper(f): 6:09pm On Oct 13, 2021 |
Godoverevery:
What is the point of sending a female child to school and empowering her if at the end of it all she still feels marginalised.
Right from my primary school in the early 90's till this point I always competit with ladies on the same level ground...nothing was given to me freely because am a man.
Is really annoying that people like ini edo and co will always come out to play the same old card of African female child/women are marginalised....this am a woman change is a total nonsense because is fellow women that mocks themselves.
I will be analysing every sector and section of social life to prove this old lies wrong
Education
Just take a look around you and tell me which female child is actually stopped from going to school because of her gender......Right from my primary school untill university there were more female student than the male......we receive the same quality of Education so were the marginalisation??
Work/job
Currently in nigeria is easy for a woman to get a job than a man.....Apart from the engineering sector which is dominated by the male most sector is dominated by the female(banks,medical,hotels,entertainment)...so were the marginalisation.
Politics
Nobody gifts anyone an elective post anywhere in the world rather you fight for it....Men fight for it with blood and sweat so if a woman wants to hold this post she must be ready to fight not expecting to be handed over on a platter.
If a woman should come out to contest for elective post in this country even her fellow women won't vote for her....so were is the marginalisation
Entertainment
Is no news apart from music which men dominant the movie industry is dominated by the female who make more money than the male....people like ini edo won't question why they are paid more than there male colleagues in the same profession.
Relationship/marriage
Today in nigeria if you can not provide for your family u are useless man.....even in ordinary relationship a lady will expect you to provide things she needs..No money No love yet they still complain and play victim card.
They can't date broke guys but will expect well to do guys to date a lady who can't even do a 1k sub for herself......they only have the right to choose but not men......were is the marginalisation
In marriage you pay to marry her,you provide shelter, food,clothing etc...if the marriage crash you pay child support.....A full adult totally dependent on another and still feel she meant to be equal with him......were is the marginalisation
State and federal government pays equally to both gender on the same level
Private sector pays equally to both gender on the same level.
I have a lil sis.....there was nothing I enjoy or had that she didn't get from our parent.....I challenge any lady here to tell me how she was treated inferior to her brothers.
What is the point of sending a female child to school from primary to higher institution and at the end of the day she will be totally dependent on the man and will always feel she isn't given enough to be independent.
The moment we start debunking the lies and stop victim mentality the better for the next generation of girls.....this lies is the reason why most our ladies are unproductive and lazy.
Help the female child by letting her know she can do it on her own.....she can competit and no one can stop her except herself.
Women stop spreading the message of victim mentality/marginalisation to our girls this 2021 not 1960.
Best post I have read this year. Thanks for this. Keep telling them 3 Likes |
| Re: Marginalisation: Women Playing The Victim Cards by Magnoliaa(f): 6:09pm On Oct 13, 2021 |
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| Re: Marginalisation: Women Playing The Victim Cards by Owen247: 6:11pm On Oct 13, 2021 |
Justbehave:
This one is really touching and still yet,they feel men are marginalizing them. This only prove a point. Women are greedy and difficult to satisfy.
I pity men who are still blind to what is happening. have seen elder bros make life sacrifices for their younger sis. While some willing,able and ready sis struggled to make sure that d familys sacrifice isnt in vain. One guy for my area was shot and killed abroad.y ? Niga go dey push drugs to train em younger sis them. Now where em younger sis them dey? Their all single mothers at home out of wedlock. One other guy droped out of MOUAU and started electrical biz and stil had to erect a house for his mum and sis dem, he was d one dat stil had to bury his late fada. And stil have to be payin his sis dem uni sch fees and all dey do when back frm sch is to stay indoors and paint lips and nails while my guy hustles for d raba. My guy mata plenty, free this lazy girls dem. 6 Likes |
| Re: Marginalisation: Women Playing The Victim Cards by FreeIgboho: 6:11pm On Oct 13, 2021 |
cococandy:
The people you’re addressing are too dumb for this conversation.
As if outlawing gender based marginalization automatically means everyone’s mindset has changed and men in authority will stop their discrimination against women.
It’s like talking to goats. They won’t get it
Oh, I know it's an exercise in futility. Thsnks 1 Like |
| Re: Marginalisation: Women Playing The Victim Cards by Gabe427: 6:11pm On Oct 13, 2021 |
Godoverevery:
What is the point of sending a female child to school and empowering her if at the end of it all she still feels marginalised.
Right from my primary school in the early 90's till this point I always competit with ladies on the same level ground...nothing was given to me freely because am a man.
Is really annoying that people like ini edo and co will always come out to play the same old card of African female child/women are marginalised....this am a woman change is a total nonsense because is fellow women that mocks themselves.
I will be analysing every sector and section of social life to prove this old lies wrong
Education
Just take a look around you and tell me which female child is actually stopped from going to school because of her gender......Right from my primary school untill university there were more female student than the male......we receive the same quality of Education so were the marginalisation??
Work/job
Currently in nigeria is easy for a woman to get a job than a man.....Apart from the engineering sector which is dominated by the male most sector is dominated by the female(banks,medical,hotels,entertainment)...so were the marginalisation.
Politics
Nobody gifts anyone an elective post anywhere in the world rather you fight for it....Men fight for it with blood and sweat so if a woman wants to hold this post she must be ready to fight not expecting to be handed over on a platter.
If a woman should come out to contest for elective post in this country even her fellow women won't vote for her....so were is the marginalisation
Entertainment
Is no news apart from music which men dominant the movie industry is dominated by the female who make more money than the male....people like ini edo won't question why they are paid more than there male colleagues in the same profession.
Relationship/marriage
Today in nigeria if you can not provide for your family u are useless man.....even in ordinary relationship a lady will expect you to provide things she needs..No money No love yet they still complain and play victim card.
They can't date broke guys but will expect well to do guys to date a lady who can't even do a 1k sub for herself......they only have the right to choose but not men......were is the marginalisation
In marriage you pay to marry her,you provide shelter, food,clothing etc...if the marriage crash you pay child support.....A full adult totally dependent on another and still feel she meant to be equal with him......were is the marginalisation
State and federal government pays equally to both gender on the same level
Private sector pays equally to both gender on the same level.
I have a lil sis.....there was nothing I enjoy or had that she didn't get from our parent.....I challenge any lady here to tell me how she was treated inferior to her brothers.
What is the point of sending a female child to school from primary to higher institution and at the end of the day she will be totally dependent on the man and will always feel she isn't given enough to be independent.
The moment we start debunking the lies and stop victim mentality the better for the next generation of girls.....this lies is the reason why most our ladies are unproductive and lazy.
Help the female child by letting her know she can do it on her own.....she can competit and no one can stop her except herself.
Women stop spreading the message of victim mentality/marginalisation to our girls this 2021 not 1960.
I fault your first point on education. although not as much as it was then, here in the north we still hear of girls who are forced into marriage right after secondary school. To become a house wife even when she actually still wants to go to school. And there's always a means to do so forget their broke....there are a lot of scholarship programs here in the north. Thinking about it again I know of guys who hussle to send themselves to school despite their circumstabces. That being said don't you think they are speaking of for the women who were not as privileged as they were being "marginalized" in one way on the other. I'm not decisive ony side.... Just throwing my opinion either ways the world was never a fair place women can't be equal either they are the higher or the lower we can only manage the degree 1 Like |
| Re: Marginalisation: Women Playing The Victim Cards by house10s: 6:12pm On Oct 13, 2021 |
badman007:
This is the most stupid thing I’ve read all year.
In a world full of people with obvious religious prejudice and Bias against women. It goes to show how Unenlightened and uninformed you are about the issue of women’s rights/marginalisation. u just dey speak grammer 1 Like |
| Re: Marginalisation: Women Playing The Victim Cards by reddingtonblack: 6:13pm On Oct 13, 2021 |
cococandy:
The people you’re addressing are too dumb for this conversation.
As if outlawing gender based marginalization automatically means everyone’s mindset has changed and men in authority will stop their discrimination against women.
It’s like talking to goats. They won’t get it
Just a simple question; how have you being marginalized. naa epistle we dey see abi you want extra sheet 8 Likes |
| Re: Marginalisation: Women Playing The Victim Cards by Justbehave(m): 6:14pm On Oct 13, 2021 |
Owen247:
have seen elder bros make life sacrifices for their younger sis. While some willing,able and ready sis struggled to make sure that d familys sacrifice isnt in vain. One guy for my area was shot and killed abroad.y ? Niga go dey push drugs to train em younger sis them. Now where em younger sis them dey? Their all single mothers at home out of wedlock. One other guy droped out of MOUAU and started electrical biz and stil had to erect a house for his mum and sis dem, he was d one dat stil had to bury his late fada. And stil have to be payin his sis dem uni sch fees and all dey do when back frm sch is to stay indoors and paint lips and nails while my guy hustles for d raba. My guy mata plenty, free this lazy girls dem. My brother I tire for them. 5 Likes |
| Re: Marginalisation: Women Playing The Victim Cards by Godoverevery: 6:16pm On Oct 13, 2021 |
Hyerin:
I see that this thread was created to incite the never-ending gender wars but anyways...
First things first, it's quite ironic you proudly claim females are not marginalized in a third world country (with its widespread poverty and ranking 133 in gender equality index) which is heavily traditional/custom-based and religious (the two being major culprits for female subjugation).
According to Statista, literacy rate in urban areas in Nigeria is 86% for males and 74% for females and this is not even factoring rural areas, to paint an overall picture of the differences between education rates for both sexes because let's face it, the gap would be much wider due to traditions, customs, religion etc that relegates women to just the kitchen and marriage alone. Take the north for instance, were it is acceptable to marry off girl children at the onset of puberty and education not being emphasized/encouraged for females. That, In and of itself, is marginalization. Make no mistake though, the north isn't the only region were females are barred from accessing education. So your point doesn't hold much weight.
And to prove my point:
Access to education for school-age girls in Nigeria is also low. Statistics from Nigeria’s Universal Basic Education Commission (UBEC) showed that males had higher enrolment numbers for basic education as of 2018. Also, in the 2019 West African Senior School Certificate Examination (WASSCE) in Nigeria, only 48.30% per cent of the total number of candidates were female. However, Nigeria girls have shown incredible excellence in potential. According to UBEC, females had the most basic education promotion and completion rates. Also, 50.23% of the candidates who got five credits inclusive of English and Mathematics in 2019 WASSCE were female.
Source: dataphyte.com
In the area of work/job, how is it much easier for a female to get one and not a male? Can you provide statistics or a study that supports your line of argument? Because with the crippling economy and high unemployment, how is it possible at all for ANYONE to get a job.
A simple Google search is all it takes for you to not be ignorant.
Findings further reveal a gender discrepancy in economic empowerment. According to the United Nations Development Programme, Nigerian women only earn 77 cents for every dollar that men get for the same work. This means that a Nigerian woman would earn ₦7,700 for a ₦10,000 job. In fact, even though women comprise slightly less than 50% of Nigeria’s population, they account for over 70% of those in extreme poverty. Another manifestation of the economic inequality experienced by Nigerian women is financial exclusion. As much as seven in 10 Nigerian women do not own bank accounts and more than half of them are financially excluded. Also, while women accounted for most of Nigeria’s agricultural workforce (75% in 2014), they represent only 13% of agricultural landowners.
Source: dataphyte.com
And even when they are employed, females still face discrimination. This is an abstract from a study:
[b]The need to reduce the gender pay gap is an ongoing concern in developing countries. One aspect of gender inequality that is often neglected is the gender pay differential in the public and private sectors. In Nigeria, the structure and employee entry into public and private sectors differ significantly and could constitute a source of pay gap. This study decomposed the wage gap individually in the public and private sectors in Nigeria in 2009 using the Blinder–Oaxaca and quantile decomposition methods. The findings point to a smaller gender pay gap in the public sector compared to the private sector, due to better educational qualifications and higher income stream arising from longer stay in the workforce. Discrimination accounts for a significant portion of gender wage gap, although it is larger in the private sector. Women selection bias is a prominent factor in the private sector, while it is not much of a concern in the public sector. The results also show the existence of glass ceiling in the public sector and sticky floor in the private sector. Policies to address discrimination against women either in wage setting or hiring process should be introduced in both sectors. Increased participation of women in the private sector through creation of women-friendly jobs should be promoted in order to close the wage gap. Mandatory compliance with minimum wage regulations in the private sector should be enforced to attract more women to the sector and therefore narrow the wage gap at the bottom.[/b]
Source: link.springer.com
A quick Google search nullifies all your points
In the area of politics
[b]There are multiple factors. Some are related to the political party systems and structures. For instance, the high cost of politics prevents women from standing for positions. Often women don’t have enough money to pay for the mandatory expression of interest and nomination forms required by political parties to run for positions on their platforms. In addition, election campaign costs are exorbitant. And poor access to education means poor access to gainful employment. Unpaid labour burdens, unequal inheritance rights and outright discrimination also mean that women are less likely to be able to afford to follow through the process of getting leadership positions.
There are also societal factors that impede women’s representation. They include cultural or religious norms surrounding marriage, indigeneship – a concept that recognises only ethnic groups native to a particular state – and the structures that portray women as subordinate to men.
Even educated women face hindrances. They encounter gender stereotypes that assign leadership to men, sexual assault, pay gaps and unpaid labour, including child care and housework, placing them at a disadvantage.
There is also a lack of political will and effective government action.
The media give poor coverage to female candidates. It’s not the same as the coverage men get. Women candidates are often subjected to gender related electoral violence, threats and hate speech because of the perception that women want to get what is traditionally men’s.
Why is representation of women in politics important?
As about half of the population are women, their participation will create a balance of power between genders. This is an indicator of development in any society. Over the years, I’ve witnessed a rise in the number of women serving in elected and appointed political position, the world over. But that is not the case for Nigerian women.
The full and equitable participation of women in public life is essential to building and sustaining strong, vibrant democracies. When women are not participating in politics, it’s less likely that policies will benefit them. Women need to participate to bring attention to issues that uniquely affect them, and to change attitudes towards gender.[/b]
Source: theconversation.com
A quick and simple Google search
In the area of Marriage
You lot act like you're doing women a favour when you marry them. You literally do not. Both women and men are providers in marriage because most households are dual-income. The wife literally has more burdens because she majorly takes care of the kids, cleans the house and still goes to work. You men are so whiny, grow up!
A simple Google search nullifies all your points. You're just an ignoramus.
All this are just tools to keep on limiting the girl child. Let talk about the North.......we aren't that naive to fact even the male child are not educated as well??.....the almajiri system affect both gender. The educated family among them don't marry off there child of at 15yrs or pls show me any educated man in the north marrying off is child at 15yrs. You can keep playing the Victim card but please next time speak about your own experience. Where you marginalised in your family Did your parent marry you off at 15yrs?? Did your parent stop you from going to school 8 Likes |
| Re: Marginalisation: Women Playing The Victim Cards by FreeIgboho: 6:18pm On Oct 13, 2021 |
membranus:
Don't you have any other objection than this your "paternalistic society" rebuttal. Even what you meant by the term, and how it has affected the Okonjo Iwealla, Awosika, Usman, Ezekwesili, Merkel and Thatcher from getting to the top, you failed to enlighten us. You keep on repeating the same thing. Please find better argument to butress your point. It is not just paternalistic society. It is the entire system, from top to bottom. Right from birth, even b4 birth, parental expectations and conditioning, societal customs and traditions, etc. Of course there are always exceptions but it takes the rare woman indeed and unique set of circumstances to overcome all that 1 Like |
| Re: Marginalisation: Women Playing The Victim Cards by Owen247: 6:23pm On Oct 13, 2021 |
dollynnn:
You are correct. ur d first person i have clicked a follow button for, because u saw d truth and u identified it irespective of ur gender. 6 Likes |
| Re: Marginalisation: Women Playing The Victim Cards by FreeIgboho: 6:26pm On Oct 13, 2021 |
SenecaTheYonger:
No they can’t. Stop looking for excuses. Yes they can. The entire system is geared towards exactly that. Right from birth, even b4 birth when the parents prefer boy, parental expectations and conditioning, societal culture, customs, and traditions, etc. It takes a RARE human indeed and very unique set of circumstances to be able to overcome all that 1 Like |
| Re: Marginalisation: Women Playing The Victim Cards by advanceDNA: 6:26pm On Oct 13, 2021 |
FreeIgboho:
You are making my point! All those are jobs that put food on the table and women are systemically excluded from them! Yet u are insisting they contribute to family expenses equal to men. How hard is it to drive a taxi? But women are systemically excluded from it by societal expectations not because it is hard! what the Op has been asking u is ....show proof that women are excluded from these jobs how are women excluded?? who systematically excluded women....u dont just they are excluded becos they are not many in these job roles...how many male nurses are in the nigeria... are men excluded from nursing? yes, some people laugh and mock male nurses... but does that mean men are excluded..... stop deceiving urself ....women dont want equality when it comes to plumbing, carpentry, mechanic, underwater engineer, trailer driving, etc... they want equality in juicy places of power and they dont want to fight for it...they want men to roll over and hand it over....they want law to make seats of power available to them automatically and uncontestable by any man...even in company's board ....they want automatic vicepresident seat by law, commissioner seats, all those seats that dont need election... and when there would be election,,,,men should not be allowed to compete.... its what Scandinavian countries are doing now, surpressing men so that women can rise...its not hidden.... lets see how far it goes.. last last we all need each other 7 Likes |
| Re: Marginalisation: Women Playing The Victim Cards by Magnoliaa(f): 6:26pm On Oct 13, 2021 |
pocohantas:
And punish the ones that say Nigerian men are the only ones working and providing for 99% of homes.
Amennnnnnnnnnnnnn! Amennn! Indayashakalaboshakalaba! Amen. The mouth-twisting you're pointing out is so funny to watch, mehnn. sorry o. We have just gotten to realize you men even notice we are doing well educationally and career-wise. The Op even said the female entertainers get paid MORE than the males. Meaning it is normal that they are buying houses na.
Let me bookmark this thread.
The future is…  Ohhh. I LOVE this. Female entertainers get PAID more? Naim be say clitocurrency and sugar-daddyism are BS and lies then. The female musicians and artistes are getting paid more because they are talented and are putting in the work! Awesome. Nice one. I am beginning to see that Nigerian women are hardworkers. That Nigerian women make up majority of the banking sector. That Nigerian women are not jobless and dull.
Most importantly, you can get men to agree with you by making them think they are disagreeing with you. Wooooooooooooooooorrrrddddddd! No, to be sincere. This is gold. Get men to agree with you by making them think they are disagreeing with you. Hmm! **writes on a sticky note and pins to a wall* God bless Nigerian women. And God Bless the First Lady! 1 Like |
| Re: Marginalisation: Women Playing The Victim Cards by shaybebaby(f): 6:27pm On Oct 13, 2021 |
SenecaTheYonger:
He literally explained this in his post about wine not wanting to play politics because of how deadly it is.
At least Learn to read. There’s nothing stopping a women from being president. It’s not written in the constitution that a woman cannot be president. But there are less women willing to do it because they don’t venture into dangerous field.
Who made it dangerous? Surely it can't be the women who haven't had a chance to look in.
So answer the question please.
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| Re: Marginalisation: Women Playing The Victim Cards by JayCynic(m): 6:28pm On Oct 13, 2021 |
cococandy:
The people you’re addressing are too dumb for this conversation.
As if outlawing gender based marginalization automatically means everyone’s mindset has changed and men in authority will stop their discrimination against women.
It’s like talking to goats. They won’t get it
You're the one who is too delusional to accept reality. If women are afforded equal opportunities as men, given the same rights as men, allowed to compete for leadership positions as much as men, accorded the same suffrage as men, allowed to own, administer and distribute wealth as men, allowed to be employed in the same jobs as men. Women are allowed to do literally everything that men can do. How then are women marginalized? 12 Likes |
| Re: Marginalisation: Women Playing The Victim Cards by DoggoneDogg: 6:31pm On Oct 13, 2021 |
[s] cococandy:
It may surprise you to know that people speak on issues not necessarily because it affects them directly but because those who are affected may not have the voice and reach to make the changes they need.
Very surprising [/s] Charity begins at home madam. Why will she be speaking about the gap outside her scope when there is a gender pay gap IN HER OWN SECTOR? 5 Likes |
| Re: Marginalisation: Women Playing The Victim Cards by Nobody: 6:31pm On Oct 13, 2021 |
Godoverevery:
All this are just tools to keep on limiting the girl child.
Let talk about the North.......we aren't that naive to fact even the male child are not educated as well??.....the almajiri system affect both gender.
The educated family among them don't marry off there child of at 15yrs or pls show me any educated man in the north marrying off is child at 15yrs.
You can keep playing the Victim card but please next time speak about your own experience.
Where you marginalised in your family
Did your parent marry you off at 15yrs??
Did your parent stop you from going to school Because it didn't happen to me, doesn't mean it doesn't happen. Are you stupid? There is empirical data that nullifies all your points! It's even in abundance sef. You're just an illiterate because your write-up literally makes no sense and you can't back it up. Next time you make such ludicrous claims, provide statistics supporting them. then again, child marriages is a thing in the north, do you live in Nigeria at all? Or are you typing from lala land? |
| Re: Marginalisation: Women Playing The Victim Cards by BigBellyBurst(m): 6:31pm On Oct 13, 2021 |
I think the solution to Gender war is for men and women to live on two different planets.
Im beginning to get sick of it. 2 Likes |
| Re: Marginalisation: Women Playing The Victim Cards by Stylishdebby(f): 6:32pm On Oct 13, 2021 |
Though somehow speechless. But for the fact that majority of women are marginalise, doesn't mean it all women. Some women do provide for themselve. THE WORK, they are both in the same level and also should be paid equally. Like the hotel and other entertaining work, the employers feels that women can do a better work. Yes most men also can do too. Am not against you, your words are true to a point. i come in peace. 1 Like |
| Re: Marginalisation: Women Playing The Victim Cards by DoggoneDogg: 6:32pm On Oct 13, 2021 |
[s] reddingtonblack:
The only problem i have with your post is the word i cancelled, pls alway chose the real fact above your fact. the highest paid musicians remains the male. talk of;
wizkid, davido, burna boy, mr eazi, olamide, flavour, kiss daniel respectively, before we now have aunty tiwa savage we hope are sextape boost are to 3rd or 4th, maybe d marginalisation noise go reduce sef [/s] Music is not the only form of entertainment. Take note. 7 Likes |
| Re: Marginalisation: Women Playing The Victim Cards by Magnoliaa(f): 6:34pm On Oct 13, 2021 |
pocohantas:
The OP is actually correct. Henceforth I hope we are all in agreement that Nigerian women are doing well in all spheres.
Someone like you knows a rich working woman sef. So this woman can buy a GL43 tomorrow and she won’t get called olosho. She worked for her money. This one sweet o.
Nothing to counter. OP is very correct. Nigerian women are not being marginalized, they are doing well educationally and professionally.
The future is…
Y’all get triggered even when they agree with you? Wonderful. It's the disagreement for meeeee!!!!!! Likeeeee. Even when you say what these guys want to hear, mba ooo, they will sha disagree and I'll be like: oga, na same thing we dey tok naa... 2 Likes |
| Re: Marginalisation: Women Playing The Victim Cards by MNDY(m): 6:35pm On Oct 13, 2021 |
pocohantas:
The OP is actually correct. Henceforth I hope we are all in agreement that Nigerian women are doing well in all spheres.
Someone like you knows a rich working woman sef. So this woman can buy a GL43 tomorrow and she won’t get called olosho. She worked for her money. This one sweet o.
Nothing to counter. OP is very correct. Nigerian women are not being marginalized, they are doing well educationally and professionally.
The future is…
Y’all get triggered even when they agree with you? Wonderful. Hahahahaha...I laugh enter Buhari's office. See as you dey take style shift goalpost. We will not stop calling una olosho whenever una shock us and flaunt properties/lifestyle wey pass una earnings while un-marginalized. 3 Likes |
