perambulator:


either way we are saying the same thing. When a man says that he doesnt think much of the woman.

Ladycewhy:
The popular phrase is "what do you bring to the table" and men usually ask women this question.

But what does "table" mean for a man? . It simply means financial capability. Which is directly or indirectly proportional to his job or business.

I have seen men wail and nag about how women only rate them according to their pockets or what they do for a living. But when the only thing you have on your table is money, well you might as well be sized up by what you have on the table.


In a scenario where a woman offers support , loyalty, home making, care on that table ,it is regarded as incosequential except she has financial input as well sometime equal percentage with the man.

Men have subconsciously sold the idea that all they have to offer is money, yet they cry when their pocket is used to size them up. What an irony.

Ladycewhy:
The fact is only child birth is a natural phenomenon.There is nothing fallacious about it. You can only associate something as a natural phenomenon to a gender if the task cannot to taken up by the other . It's just like having a penls and vagina. Don't mistake natural instincts for natural phenomenon.


By natural instincts women are nuturers while men are protectors .

CumOnHer:
The table is a place of negotiation, a place of offer. It is a place where capacities are put to the test. It is not to be confused as a place in exchange for gender roles as mostly viewed by women.
A woman's most bargaining power on the table is her pussy. She mounts on the table, lay on her back and spread the legs. The pussy is the trump card she throws on the table.
When a man comes to the table, he comes in the expectation of long term plans capable of achieving long term goals whereas when a woman comes to the table, she sizes up the table for self seeking advantage.



PS - I would be opening a counter thread anytime soon.

Ladycewhy:
starting with your dull mother I guess?

cococandy:

Bingo!!! Thanks for letting us agree and get to the same consensus quicker than later.

Yes many of you don’t think much of women
You tell us that EVERYDAY. In every way possible.

Your first response to me lends to that.

IMEI:



Redpill is a pill i once swallowed and chewed out. There's some truths in it, but alot of it is farfetched as well, especially because it skews males perceptions of females

Be honest with yourself, for what purpose does redpill enlighten men about female nature?

Redpillers don't/hardly respect females due to the knowledge

Redpillers don't/hardly respect females due to the knowledge

perambulator:

Firstly i cant remember my 1st response to you. i honestly did not even know when i started a conversation with you. I answered as objectively and mature as possible without bias. I stated from the beginning that bringing something to the table for a woman has nothing to do with money or at least it shouldnt.


Many Men have a bad attitude .....so also a lot of women. Nobody deserves automatic respect this applies to both men and women. If you behave badly, have and attitude problem or a chip on your shoulder , you will be treated badly whether you are male of female. You seem to be on a war path. There are many men who dont think much of women just as there are many women who dont think much of men...what is your point?

Like I said you seem very confrontational...I'm out!!!

i have since checked this 1st post where you quoted me. Value in a relationship in a subjective thing. the fact that one person (male or female) feels that they add value does not mean the other party sees them as adding value to them. You made a fundamental error in your post by assuming you are the one to determine if you are adding value!!!! You value in a relationship is not what you think you bring but what the other party thinks you bring!!!

cococandy:
Your first response to me is that many women do not have much to offer. That they over estimate their value to men. That wasn’t very respectful. And I used it as an example to buttress your point. I didn’t add anything to what you said. See how it looks from a different perspective? For you, saying that is no big deal. Just another post but for the women you’re referring to, it’s disrespectful.

You know it’s funny how saying disrespectful stuff about women comes naturally but when a woman points it out, she’s confrontational.

perambulator:



is that a lie? is every woman an asset? Are you an asset simply by virtue of being a woman? what nonsense are you talking here? Are all women asets? i if not then am i not correct?
I suspect you read again or brush up on your English better still read my 1st 2 posts in this thread.

There is no perspective here, you seem to have a chip on your shoulder!!!!!! Not everybody adds value both men and women, and even those who may add value to one person may not add value to another. Therefore "many dont!" or "overestimate their value" is a factual statement!!! that doesnt mean there arent men who are just Arseholes but arseholes are not limited to one sex only!!!!!

Ladycewhy:
Tell us what else they offer that is not directly or indirectly linked to their financial capability.

Ladycewhy:
So by your logic ,do we now conclude that women of the past were bad heads and based marriages on pussy alone? .


And by the way it's also common sense that the table for men is bills and financial capability and responsibility . Deny and twist it all you want , MEN HAVE NOTHING TO PUT ON THE TABLE OTHER THAN MONEY.

Hence the reason they feel emasculated when they loose their jobs in marriages and become useless to themselves and nagging to their wife.

I don't know about men of other societies ,but Nigerian men see money as a means of control cos that is all they have to offer , hence they fear a woman that earns well or even more than them. You will hear "this one go fit submit so? ". Like why would a grown adult submit to you a mere mortal like her unto say you be Lord and savior?

ume1000:

men: I offer fd**k
women :I offer p***y

Men:i offer protection
women:have given all

Men :money for upkeep of the home
Women : got nothing left

Men: I offer you a name(my name)
Women:got no name to give

CHoccolaTE:


But you didn't add the part where the man carried his kids in his womb and raised his kids by himself while the woman stood by saying she has nothing left to give.
Oya complete the conversation.

cococandy:


No he offered her a name.
like she was nameless before he met her.
Don’t forget the ‘protection’ too

CHoccolaTE:


But you didn't add the part where the man carried his kids in his womb and raised his kids by himself while the woman stood by saying she has nothing left to give.
Oya complete the conversation.

CumOnHer:
The table is a place of negotiation, a place of offer. It is a place where capacities are put to the test. It is not to be confused as a place in exchange for gender roles as mostly viewed by women.
A woman's most bargaining power on the table is her pussy. She mounts on the table, lay on her back and spread the legs. The pussy is the trump card she throws on the table.
When a man comes to the table, he comes in the expectation of long term plans capable of achieving long term goals whereas when a woman comes to the table, she sizes up the table for self seeking advantage.



PS - I would be opening a counter thread anytime soon.

Ladyewhy:

In a scenario where a woman offers support , loyalty, home making, care........

CHoccolaTE:


What do they even mean when they say they offer "protection"?
Protection from what exactly?
Deluded lot.

mickybeejay:
I don't need to ask you what you are bringing to the table if you are indeed valuable.


But the question only pops up when you don't have anything to offer, yet you are placing unnecessary demands on me.

cococandy:


Obviously, they offer us protection from their fellow men.

They are so close. So close to realizing that they are the problem . But they run face-first smack into the point and still somehow miss it entirely.
I’ve never seen such a phenomenon in my life

Like Why would we need protection if y’all behaved yourselves?

And even though they say that, it’s not even true. How many of them call out abusive men? How many prioritize building a society where women don’t have to hide pepper spray in their purses? How many speak up against violence towards women instead of justifying it? I could go on and on. Many may not actively participate in creating unsafe spaces for women but they tolerate the ones who do. And attack the women who confront the dangerous ones. So they are protecting no one.

Protection indeed.

They deliberately created a world that’s unsafe for women and in return we have to submit to them so that they can protect us from the problems they cause.

Ladycewhy:
So by your logic ,do we now conclude that women of the past were bad heads and based marriages on pussy alone? .


And by the way it's also common sense that the table for men is bills and financial capability and responsibility . Deny and twist it all you want , MEN HAVE NOTHING TO PUT ON THE TABLE OTHER THAN MONEY.

Hence the reason they feel emasculated when they loose their jobs in marriages and become useless to themselves and nagging to their wife.

I don't know about men of other societies ,but Nigerian men see money as a means of control cos that is all they have to offer , hence they fear a woman that earns well or even more than them. You will hear "this one go fit submit so? ". Like why would a grown adult submit to you a mere mortal like her unto say you be Lord and savior?

cococandy:


No he offered her a name.
like she was nameless before he met her.
Don’t forget the ‘protection’ too

Ladycewhy:
The popular phrase is "what do you bring to the table" and men usually ask women this question.

But what does "table" mean for a man? . It simply means financial capability. Which is directly or indirectly proportional to his job or business.

I have seen men wail and nag about how women only rate them according to their pockets or what they do for a living. But when the only thing you have on your table is money, well you might as well be sized up by what you have on the table.


In a scenario where a woman offers support , loyalty, home making, care on that table ,it is regarded as incosequential except she has financial input as well sometime equal percentage with the man.

Men have subconsciously sold the idea that all they have to offer is money, yet they cry when their pocket is used to size them up. What an irony.

Biglittlelois:



Then tell us what men bring to the table apart from finance, and also the agenda men set for women to pass in other to qualify for the table.

Ladycewhy:
The popular phrase is "what do you bring to the table" and men usually ask women this question.

But what does "table" mean for a man? . It simply means financial capability. Which is directly or indirectly proportional to his job or business.

I have seen men wail and nag about how women only rate them according to their pockets or what they do for a living. But when the only thing you have on your table is money, well you might as well be sized up by what you have on the table.


In a scenario where a woman offers support , loyalty, home making, care on that table ,it is regarded as incosequential except she has financial input as well sometime equal percentage with the man.

Men have subconsciously sold the idea that all they have to offer is money, yet they cry when their pocket is used to size them up. What an irony.

pocohantas:


Well said. He never asked me that stupid question. That question is not meant to be answered! Anyone asking that question doesn’t really care about your response. He/she has formed an opinion and anything you say would be used against you.

That said, I brought light skin and vibes. A good man should be able to build an empire out of that.

cococandy:


Like I said, you already formed your opinion. And you just proved my point. When you meet a woman, you’ve already decided she has nothing to offer. You asking that question is a way to get them to audition for you. To feed your ego as to why they are “worth” your time. EVEN THOUGH, you’re the one who went after them in the first place.
Make it make sense

ume1000:
pregnancy is as a product of sex ,you are not offering it in marriage ,the moment she offers her p***y she accepts the consequences
A man offers her dignity by placing his seed in her overused , sometimes cursed womb(due to abortion)

A man offers her respect by cohabiting with her sometimes shameless self(if she sleeps around ) believe it or not most women sleep around

Ladychewy for no try this her nonsense if I open narialand this morning