JackDaAlienz:

My father's friend loved those 2 boys with all his heart.
Because his wife couldn't birth a boy for him.
He cherished them and pampered them
Bit look at how they treat him 20 years later.

Man had partial stroke after one of them beat him up for asking him where he is coming back from late at night.

Its not by raising them with perfect love
They will exhibit their ORIGINAL parents behavior
What if their father was a Hardcore killer who raped and pregnanted a Mad woman
Mad woman give birth and they put the baby in orphanage.

That baby has the genetics of his ruthless killer father. No matter how much love you show him that baby will still exhibit his original parents behaviour because he has his genes

Stop commenting because you sound really dumb and embarrassing. What a waste of education?

JackDaAlienz:

Adopted kid spotted

Your papa na adopted Pikin from your grand mother. Werey, bastărd.

Divay22:
Adoption is not the cause but how they were raised..
A baby you adopted or a toddler you adopted doesn't know anything.. Blame it on your father's friend..

Well said

Germi9:
I read people say bad parenting LOL i have seen parents who were so bad In bringing up children yet non of the children were bad, am talking about marrying more than 5 different wives or women,beating them,not even providing,smoking and carrying small small girls to the house and lots of nasty things.
What will be, will be ..as a child you chose whom you want to be cos no be your parents go follow you go school
Even the children of pastors,police and professors are worse quote me

I think you are confusing strict with bad.
Bad is letting the child do and have whatever they want, and servants at their beck and call

Dybala11:

An incident was shared on this forum probably last year or in 2 years ago. A man used a Cutlass to decapitate and kill his biological brother because they had an argument over the ownership of a mango tree. Biological brothers brought up by their parents o. May God help us all.

That example of 2years ago too far sef just Tuesday August 30th 2022 inthe headlines.,
Mr. Peter Orji, a native of Uruagu in Nnewi North Anambra State shot dead his own biological elder brother, Mr. Godwin Orji for disconnecting his light over non-payment of his electricity tariff/NEPA Bill.
Ordinary argument over Nepa bill one biological brother ended the life of another.
If na adopted siblings now, we for not hear word again.

Sept 3rd 2022 Ahmadu Munkaila and a father of five children in Gagarawa local government of Jigawa State made the headlines for killing his parents and was not in any way regretting killing them!!!
September 22nd 2022 an undergraduate boy from Anambra Also made headlines for murdering his own biological parents !!!. He was smoked out when the offensive odour of the decomposing corpses made the neighbors curious to check the house thoroughly!

Sadly, social vices, yahoo, armed robbery, are not exclusive to non bilological adopted children and their surrogate families alone!!

A biological child can kill his or her parents too and siblings sharing the same blood can kill each other is vice versa
It’s the sad reality of today’s decadent society!!. .Even some pastor children turn out wayward!!!.
One of President Shehu Shahari's biological sons was caught as a drug dealer and a user and also imprisoned.Even some kids of pastors, imams, professors etc have been known to turn into hoodlums. We pray for grace, patience , long life and strength to train our children the right way in todays secular world!

Parrot69:

Your papa na adopted Pikin from your grand mother. Werey, bastărd.

That's what I expected an adopted child to say

ObalendeCMS:
My aunt has an adopted son of 4 years old. From what I’ve seen so far, that boy will be a pain in the a$$ for my aunt in the future. The boy has already started exhibiting some character of whoever his parents are, coupled with the fact that my aunt is very bad in parenting. I pity the boy; better he had been left with his rightful parents. He won’t have any family member to associate with because it’s glaring he’s adopted and my aunt has a bad record with almost everyone in the family.

Lol. You knew that your aunty is bad at parenting but you still went ahead to blame his biological parents you didn't know for what he's turning out to be.
Are you blaming his dad or mum or both of them have the same characteristics? You see, that's why we say that many of you are dumb.

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SyrusdeHansome:
Is madness a genetic condition?

Yes. In many cases.. I thought everybody knows this

Dybala11:

Oh God, this one has already believed the lies told by OP. Think for yourself guy, think.
What OP listed there are vices and there's no correlation between vices and genetics, vices are not inheritable. Upbringing/parenting and the society/exposure/peer pressure is the key word, not adoption.
Using the OP's logic, are you saying that all/most of the bad people we have in history and on Earth right now became bad because they were adopted?
OP himself is a self professed homosexual/gay and there are lots of individuals here that hate gays and see it as a social vices too, should those people also conclude then that the OP became gay because he was adopted?

I have seen such before..

Went to abroad came back with nothing.

Johnn78:

That example of 2years ago too far sef just Tuesday August 30th 2022 inthe headlines.,
Mr. Peter Orji, a native of Uruagu in Nnewi North Anambra State shot dead his own biological elder brother, Mr. Godwin Orji for disconnecting his light over non-payment of his electricity tariff/NEPA Bill.
Ordinary argument over Nepa bill one biological brother ended the life of another.
If na adopted siblings now, we for not hear word again.

Sept 3rd 2022 Ahmadu Munkaila and a father of five children in Gagarawa local government of Jigawa State made the headlines for killing his parents and was not in any way regretting killing them!!!
September 22nd 2022 an undergraduate boy from Anambra Also made headlines for murdering his own biological parents !!!.

Sadly, social vices, yahoo, armed robbery, are not exclusive to non bilological adopted children and their surrogate families alone!!

A biological child can kill his or her parents too and siblings sharing the same blood can kill each other is vice versa
It’s the sad reality of today’s decadent society!!. .Even some pastor children turn out wayward!!!.
One of President Shehu Shahari's biological sons was caught as a drug dealer and a user and also imprisoned.Even some kids of pastors, imams, professors etc have been known to turn into hoodlums. We pray for grace, patience , long life and strength to train our children the right way in todays secular world!

Amen to this prayer o. Lot of things are happening in this life.

wiseone28:
I have seen such before..
Went to abroad came back with nothing.

You're in support of the OP right? Well, I have a different opinion to OP' o.

Epositive:
The deliquencies exhibited by these kids have little to do with being adopted. It's more of poor upbringing and peer pressure. Even well-trained biological kids are falling short so...?
You are just being overzealous here. If you had raised points on medical issues, that would have been more rational. Even at that, nothing is guaranteed even with your own biological children.

If you are an orphan, or you lost one parent at an early age or you were greatly sponspored by a relative, you might appreciate adoption better.

I intend to adopt atleast 2 kids later in life, if I'm comfortable enough to cater for them. To give them a good life they may never had. My own way of contributing to humanity and as an extension of love towards children.

I'm having the same thought but I prefer female kids. Boys can be a pain in the ass.

Dybala11:

You're in support of the OP right?
Well, I have a different opinion to OP' o.

Till you witness one then you will

sweetgala:


Ignorance is a terrible disease and you are evidently afflicted.
How did you come to the daft conclusion that "madness" is hereditary or genetic !

I thought everyone knows this. That's one of the reasons inquiries are made b4 marriage.
See below

Onyiiobi7735:

The popular pastor Onyechi Daniel said in his book" Faulty Foundation" that illegitimate children are often more troublesome than others.

What survey did he carry out? Ojukwu was an illegitimate child

Should we allow this kind of thread on the front page? What message are we sending to people? You're indirectly instructing adopted folks to revolt against their parents.

You cannot use your experience to draw a conclusion. Some bandits today know their biological parents... So? Some kids kill their biological parents. Should we then terminate reproduction??

Adoption should be fully encouraged in Nigeria, please. The kids we fail to train and nurture may grow to haunt others. It doesn't matter whether they're your seed or not. I'm completely and totally for adoption; kids, teens, I don't mind.

There's a lot of sense in your disposition o, but there's also no guarantee that a legitimate child won't go astray into cultism, yahoo and other vices.

Moreover, another thing that causes waywardness of adopted children (especially to their 'parents') is when they get to know that they were adopted and dt the ppl they hitherto call 'daddy and mummy ' are nothing but 'strangers'.
That family bond is subconsciously broken as a result bcus d adopted children, being kids and not bring able to fully process such information, begin to rebel.

JackDaAlienz:
I remember early 2000, my dad was planning to adopt a kid Into our family.
Later I found out that my father's friend adopted 2 boys.
My uncle warned my dad not yo try it.
I even remember going to orphanage with him to see how it goes.
For some reason he didn't adopt again.

Fast foward to 20 years later
That my father's friend is living in hell,
He says those 2 boys he adopted turned out to be into yahoo, drugs, cultisim.
They even beat him up and steal his money.

Till today im forever grateful to my uncle for preventing my dad from adoption.
Because all the families I know that adopted kids back in the 2000. None of them have peace, they always fighting, quarreling
It's a huge mess.
This is why i think Adoption is not worth it at all

op you no get talk... Adopting a kid from an orphanage doesn't spell doom if you do ur parental work well

So because those kids turned out to be bad adults, adoption is not longer worth it? The way you guys reason things in Africa is just mind blowing. And the FTC guy is calling others emotional. The person that used an instance of an unwanted outcome to judge the entire situation is not emotional, it is the person telling him that's not how it should be that is emotional. So because Evan's parents gave birth to a child who turned out to be a deadly kidnapper, giving birth is no longer worth it, right? This is exactly why there's so much hate in Nigeria. One Yoruba person does something you don't like and to you "Yoruba people are not worth it". A lady commits a crime and to you "Nigerian women are wicked". The herd mentality is strong. It is only when it comes to your own herd that you begin to apply individualism.

Epigenetical research has made us understand that the environment has an overwhelming effect on gene expression. There's an insanely high probability those children that turned out to be yahoo boys and whatever were influenced by thier environment and/or lack of proper parental guidance. Without the intention of going into the popular nature vs nurture debate, it worth mentioning that regardless of whatever behaviors your genes are predisposed to, if you're not exposed to the triggers or external factors that would ignite them at the formative stage of your brain, they wouldn't automatically manifest when you become an adult. Even the good guys you see today have some genetical predispositions that they don't even know about because they grew up in environments that don't support them.

Doing yahoo is not an emotion like anger, happiness, etc. It is a well thought out process that demands acquired skills. For one to go into it, you'll have to have the need, know about it, know about the possible outcomes, have the desire, acquire the skills, have the necessary platform, etc. These are mostly environmental factors. I'm not downplaying the influence of genes on the way we reason, I'm saying environment plays more roles. And it makes zero sense for you to decry abortion because of the few bad outcomes while ignoring all the good ones. There are many couples that can't give birth. There are many children in orphanages that don't get the proper care they need either due to the lack of one-on-one attention or the lack of funds . Decrying adoption is the most unreasonable thing to do at this point, especially when it comes from someone that doesn't have reproductive issues.

zubito:
A woman in a satellite village in Abuja is going through the same experience with boys she adopted few years ago. There is need for more research on the cause of this trend. It's not merely a coincidence.

A woman in Festac town, his two adopted sons are football stars

Exactly, its not the Adoption that is the issue, may be partly due to how they were raised or environment and other influences.

Divay22:
Adoption is not the cause but how they were raised..
A baby you adopted or a toddler you adopted doesn't know anything.. Blame it on your father's friend..

good for her. Her adopted children are football stars.

PoliteActivist:


A woman in Festac town, his two adopted sons are football stars

I had to sign up because of you. You’re not making sense. People are correcting you. And you’re doing agidi. How can you just say adoption is not good because of one case. And you’re just talking down on everybody. Bloody narcissist. I hope your girlfriend leaves you. Anybody that seeks to win an argument is a baby.

wiseone28:
Till you witness one then you will

Oh, so you believe in that statement that only adopted kids end up becoming hired killers, Yahoo Yahoo boys/girls, ritualists, kidnappers, terrorists etc, abi?
And that all and many more of those vices are inheritable via genes?
So according to you and the OP, there's genetic Yahoo Yahoo and so on?
Have a lovely day sir, whatever works for you.

Who are you campaigning for?

kazyhm:


Nature will always find a way to express itself.........

Nurturing a child is at the development stage..... nature are exhibited at full maturity........

I'm not a fan of adoption.......

How about siblings who turn out polar opposites?
The Ransome Kutis? Google Whitey Bolger and his brother. One a ruthless gangster, the other mild mannered scholar

Please correct your statements, like other children adopted children can turn positive or negative. Your statement is like that of a child without much thoughts, just hurried conclusion.

I trust my Nigerian people, haha, with their rushed conclusion, now all adopted children are bad from your statement.

Its due to your fears and disappointment, it does not have anything to do with reality. Adopted children can be just as wonderful as other children. If you are afraid or scared of Adopting, and will not love those children or do not have parenting skills, then adoption is not for you.

If you also keep all this stories about bad adopted children and do not understand why they may turn out bad, then adoption is not for you. Its one thing to know stories of Adopted children that turned negative, its another thing, to understand why they turned negative, so you can be aware of negative parental influences.

Dybala11:

Oh, so you believe in that statement that only adopted kids end up becoming hired killers, Yahoo Yahoo boys/girls, ritualists, kidnappers, terrorists etc, abi?
And that all and many more of those vices are inheritable via genes?
So according to you and the OP, there's genetic Yahoo Yahoo and so on?
Have a lovely day sir, whatever works for you.

He didn't say all but majority

JackDaAlienz:
I remember early 2000, my dad was planning to adopt a kid Into our family.
Later I found out that my father's friend adopted 2 boys.
My uncle warned my dad not yo try it.
I even remember going to orphanage with him to see how it goes.
For some reason he didn't adopt again.

Fast foward to 20 years later
That my father's friend is living in hell,
He says those 2 boys he adopted turned out to be into yahoo, drugs, cultisim.
They even beat him up and steal his money.

at all

Stupid excuse and lame story. How about blaming that man for raising them to be yahoo. Your uncle is part of the blame here for how he raised them. Adoption is as good as having your own biological kid. Your biological kid would turn yahoo if raised the same way your that man raised those kids .

wiseone28:
He didn't say all but majority

So you and the OP believe that majority of the bad people we have on Earth are adopted right?
Where and how did you collate this data sir?
You seemed to be privy to an info others don't know about, enlighten us and table your argument please.

For the record, I'm only teasing you o. What you're basically doing is called fallacy and it's against science o. You don't state something that only occurs in few cases out of many as a law/principle.

AfroKnight:
nature vs nurture

Which is more potent?

The eternal argument

That argument has had an answer since.

Nature is more potent.
No matter how u nurture a python, it's nature is still resident.