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| Muslims are oblivious of the Serious Flaws in the Taoheed (Oneness of Allah)! by TenQ: 1:47pm On Feb 26 |
The Flaws In The Taoheed (doctrine Of Oneness Of Allah) Destroys Allah As God The fundamental doctrine of Islam is the Taoheed meaning: The Oneness of Allah. Unfortunately, inasmuch as Muslims would like to grandrously magnify Allah and make him the same as the God of the people of the Book, they unfortunately limit him unknowingly. As a rule, Islam ALWAYS BREAK down with scrutiny. And this is why Muslims hardly ask questions. You will all see that a little examination of Islamic doctrine expose the weakness of the Taoheed. Taoheed makes Allah a limited God because of these claims of Islam below. Claims of Islam : 1. Allah is on his throne upon the waters above the seven heavens. 2. Allah descend everyday to the lowest heaven at the third part of the night to listen to the supplications of the Muslims 3. Muslims will SEE Allah with their eyes on the Day of judgement 4. Allah will appear to the Muslims and will change his shape to. another form on the Day of resurrection to a form unknown to the Muslims (Muslims will be in disbelief until until they see the shin of Allah) 5. Allah cannot enter into his creation because he is too big for that If ALL these are true, then 1. If Allah is above the seven heavens (which is also all above the earth), Allah cannot be omnipresent. It is logically impossible for Allah to be above the heavens and below it at the same time. 2. If Allah descend to the lowest heaven everyday at the third part of the night to listen to the supplications of the Muslims, then Allah cannot be omniscient. It is either that Allah is not knowledgeable that the earth is not flat but spherical (thus Allah is trapped forever on the earth) and it is thus impossible for Allah to be on his throne above the heavens at the same time 3. If Muslims will see Allah with their eyes on the Day of judgement, it means that Allah is finite both in scope and size. Moreover, Allah is NOT a spirit according to Islamic scholars, thus Allah is a physical being. 4. If Allah changes his shape to the Muslims, then this proves that the shape of Allah is created. If not, can any Muslim tell us what happened to the original shape of Allah when he appeared to you in a different shape. Obviously, the first shape not the second shape of Allah are not eternal. There is no Islamic doctrine that Allah is shapeless 5. If Allah is too big to enter his creation, how come he managed to pass through the layers of heaven to the lowest heavens in order to listen to the supplications of the Muslims at the third part of the night? 6. Of course, there is no dispute that Allah is One but then, What is the difference between the Oneness of Allah and the Oneness of Iblis (satan)? If there is no difference apart from difference in assigned attributes, then there is NOTHING special about the Taoheed of Allah. Of course, except if ALL these claims of Muslims about Allah is FABRICATED as usual Questions; 1. Can Allah be Above the seven heavens and be below it at the same time? 2. If it is true that Allah descends every third part of the night to the lowest heavens, doe it not mean that Allah is perpetually on earth? 3. If Muslims will see Allah physically in paradise, does it not show that Allah is limited? 4. If it is true that Allah will change his shape when he appears to Muslims in paradise, what happens to Allah's first shape? 5. If Allah is too big to enter into his creation, how then does he descend from his throne to the lowest heaven? 6. What is special with Taoheed of Allah since we know that Iblis is also one and unique? References are included next page! All my Friends on Nairaland: LegalWolf Vanessa7 AntiChristian Empiree, Rash4ductluv, BabaHeekmat, aekymbahd, motayoayinde, drlateef, Thatfairguy1, MrCodeSolo , Hisbah21, atsleepboy1 , Lordmoh , OBALOLA55, x123xlolls , Lukuluku69 , mhmsadyq, Ibsaq , Herkeym001 , Sulasa07 , hakeemhakeem , abduljabbar4 ,olaalekan ,Friend22 , uthlaw , Exc2000 , AbuTwins ,Akhirastriver ,Akinbahm , Sino , KayB , youngdroly , jaggabban , ukeleh , Realismailakabir , Bami8064 Greatgr , Gaskiyamagana , compton11, Alfarouq , MrCodeSolo Satmaniac saintHot, drlateef, Donkmore Akinbahm , IMEI , FATHAT , talk2hb1 , iamrealdeji , Encyclopedia1 , SWATMan rolams aheeqilmaktoom , Bintdawood , Flanker , Raheeqilmaktoom , rolams ,honesttalk21 , Negroid001 , Nvestor02 , Coolsat, iamrealdeji madridguy Almunjid MohammadSAW , STRI1 Explore2xmore satmaniac Ohyoudidnt , 4islam ThatFairGuy1 BroOptimist. Bakrabas. Musa95 Ibrahimlagosian Explore2xmore hakeemhakeem ItsReal correctguy101 Qasim6 youngdroly Bliss52 Qasim6 truthday Almunjid hayzedibd ahmedio2017 Ahmadusmanu Harnny cc: MightySparrow SIRTee15 ANTIlSLAM innotutorial FxMasterz advocatejare |
| Re: Muslims are oblivious of the Serious Flaws in the Taoheed (Oneness of Allah)! by TenQ: 1:47pm On Feb 26 |
REFERENCES: 1. Allah is on his throne upon the waters above the seven heavens. Quran 11:7 He is the One who created the heavens and the earth in six days, while His throne was on water, so that He might test you as to who among you is better in deed. Sahih Muslim 2653b Abdullah b. 'Amr b. al-'As reported: I heard Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) as saying: Allah ordained the measures (of quality) of the creation fifty thousand years before He created the heavens and the earth, as His Throne was upon water. Sunan Ibn Majah 4331 Mu’adh bin Jabal said: “I heard the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) say: ‘Paradise has one hundred grades, each of which is as big as the distance between heaven and earth. The highest of them is Firdaws and the best of them is Firdaws. The Throne is above Firdaws and from it spring forth the rivers of Paradise. If you ask of Allah, ask Him for Firdaws.’” 2. Allah descend everyday to the lowest heaven at the third part of the night to listen to the supplications of the Muslims Sahih Muslim 758a Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) as saying: Our Lord, the Blessed and the Exalted, descends every night to the lowest heaven when one-third of the latter part of the night is left, and says: Who supplicates Me so that I may answer him? Who asks Me so that I may give to him? Who asks Me forgiveness so that I may forgive him? 3. Muslims will SEE Allah with their eyes on the Day of judgement Abu Hurairah said : The people asked : Messenger of Allah! Shall we see our lord, the Exalted, on the Day of resurrection? He replied : Do you feel any trouble in seeing the sun at noon when it is not in the cloud? They said: No. He asked : Do you feel any trouble in seeing the moon on the night when it is full and not in the cloud? They replied: No. He said: By him in whose hand my soul is, you will not feel any trouble in seeing him except as much as you feel in seeing any of them. Jami` at-Tirmidhi 2557 Abu Hurairah narrated that the Messenger of Allah (s.a.w) said: "Allah will gather mankind on the Day of Resurrection on a single plane, then the Lord of the Worlds will come to them and say: 'Let every person follow what they used to worship.' So to the worshipper of the cross, his cross shall be symbolized to him, and to the worshipper of images his images, and to the worshipper of fire his fire. They will follow what they used to worship, and the Muslims will remain. Then the Lord of the Worlds will come to them and say: 'Do you not follow the people?' So they will say: 'We seek refuge in Allah from you, we seek refuge in Allah from you, Allah is our Lord, and we shall remain here until we see our Lord.' And He orders them and makes them firm.'"Thy said: "And you will see Him, O Messenger of Allah?" He said: "Are you harmed in seeing the moon on the night of a full moon?" They said: "No, O Messenger of Allah." He said: "So you will not be harmed in seeing Him at that hour. Then He will conceal Himself, then He will come, and He will make them recognize Him, then He will say: "I am your Lord, so follow Me." So the Muslims will arise and the Sirat shall be placed, and they shall be placed, and they shall pass by it the like of excellent horses and camels and their statement upon it shall be, "Grant them safety, grant them safety." And the people of Fire shall remain, then a party of them shall be cast down into it, and it shall be said (to the Fire): 'Have you become full?' So it shall say: Is there more? Then a party of them shall be cast down into it, and it shall be said: 'Have you become full?' So it shall say: Is there more? Until when they are all included into it, Ar-Rahman (the Most-Merciful) shall place His foot in it and its sides shall be all brought together, then He will say: 'Enough.' It will say 'Enough, enough.' So when Allah, the Exalted, has admitted the people of Paradise into Paradise and the people of Fire into Fire"- [He said:]- "Death shall be brought in by the collar and stood on the wall that is between the people of Paradise and the people of the Fire, then it will be said: 'O people of Paradise!' They will come near, afraid. Then it will be said: 'O people of the Fire!' They will come rejoicing, hoping for intercession. Then it will be said to the people of Paradise and the people of the Fire: 'Do you recognize this?' So they will-both of them-say: 'We recognize it. It is Death which was given charge of us,' so it will be laid down and slaughtered upon the wall [the one that is between Paradise and the Fire], then it will be said: 'O people of Paradise! Everlasting life without death!' And 'O people of the Fire! Everlasting life without death!'" Sahih al-Bukhari 4919 Narrated Abu Sa`id: I heard the Prophet (ﷺ) saying, "Our Lord Allah will lay bare His Shin, and then all the Believers, men and women, will prostrate themselves before Him, but there will remain those who used to prostrate in the world for showing off and for gaining good reputation. Such people will try to prostrate (on the Day of Judgment) but their back swill be as stiff as if it is one bone (a single vertebra). 4. Allah will appear to the Muslims and will change his shape to. another form on the Day of resurrection to a form unknown to the Muslims (Muslims will be in disbelief until until they see the shin of Allah) Sahih al-Bukhari 7439 Narrated Abu Sa'id Al-Khudri: We said, "O Allah's Messenger (ﷺ)! Shall we see our Lord on the Day of Resurrection?" He said, "Do you have any difficulty in seeing the sun and the moon when the sky is clear?" We said, "No." He said, "So you will have no difficulty in seeing your Lord on that Day as you have no difficulty in seeing the sun and the moon (in a clear sky)." The Prophet then said, "Somebody will then announce, 'Let every nation follow what they used to worship.' So the companions of the cross will go with their cross, and the idolators (will go) with their idols, and the companions of every god (false deities) (will go) with their god, till there remain those who used to worship Allah, both the obedient ones and the mischievous ones, and some of the people of the Scripture. Then Hell will be presented to them as if it were a mirage. Then it will be said to the Jews, "What did you use to worship?' They will reply, 'We used to worship Ezra, the son of Allah.' It will be said to them, 'You are liars, for Allah has neither a wife nor a son. What do you want (now)?' They will reply, 'We want You to provide us with water.' Then it will be said to them 'Drink,' and they will fall down in Hell (instead). Then it will be said to the Christians, 'What did you use to worship?' They will reply, 'We used to worship Messiah, the son of Allah.' It will be said, 'You are liars, for Allah has neither a wife nor a son. What: do you want (now)?' They will say, 'We want You to provide us with water.' It will be said to them, 'Drink,' and they will fall down in Hell (instead). When there remain only those who used to worship Allah (Alone), both the obedient ones and the mischievous ones, it will be said to them, 'What keeps you here when all the people have gone?' They will say, 'We parted with them (in the world) when we were in greater need of them than we are today, we heard the call of one proclaiming, 'Let every nation follow what they used to worship,' and now we are waiting for our Lord.' Then the Almighty will come to them in a shape other than the one which they saw the first time, and He will say, 'I am your Lord,' and they will say, 'You are not our Lord.' And none will speak: to Him then but the Prophets, and then it will be said to them, 'Do you know any sign by which you can recognize Him?' They will say. 'The Shin,' and so Allah will then uncover His Shin whereupon every believer will prostrate before Him and there will remain those who used to prostrate before Him just for showing off and for gaining good reputation. These people will try to prostrate but their backs will be rigid like one piece of a wood (and they will not be able to prostrate). Then the bridge will be laid across Hell." We, the companions of the Prophet (ﷺ) said, "O Allah's Messenger (ﷺ)! What is the bridge?'...... 5. Allah cannot enter into his creation because he is too big for that This is another area Muslims are sure of the answer without giving a corresponding argument 6. Allah is NOT a Spirit neither does he have a spirit Even though Muslim do not know what a spirit is, one thing they are sure about is that Allah is not a spirit. Quran 17:85 They ask thee concerning the Spirit . Say: "The Spirit (cometh) by command of my Lord: of knowledge it is only a little that is communicated to you" 7. Angels carry the throne of Allah Quran 40:7 Those [angels] who carry the Throne and those around it exalt [ Allah ] with praise of their Lord and believe in Him and ask forgiveness for those who have believed, [saying], "Our Lord, You have encompassed all things in mercy and knowledge, so forgive those who have repented and followed Your way and protect them from the punishment of Hellfire. |
| Re: Muslims are oblivious of the Serious Flaws in the Taoheed (Oneness of Allah)! by advocatejare(m): 8:23pm On Feb 26 |
TenQ:They are set of confuse people, they don’t know the Allah they are serving. They even call him king, olorun Oba Allah. Allah never refer to himself as a king |
| Re: Muslims are oblivious of the Serious Flaws in the Taoheed (Oneness of Allah)! by TenQ: 8:33pm On Feb 26 |
advocatejare:Except that Allah is supposed to be either stuck on his throne (carried by the angels) in heaven or stuck here on earth's lowest heaven. They can't answer to the contradictions. The more the manufacture lies to prop up Allah, Mohammed and Islam, the more they get entangled in their fables. 1 Like 1 Share |
| Re: Muslims are oblivious of the Serious Flaws in the Taoheed (Oneness of Allah)! by TenQ: 9:49pm On Feb 26 |
As a rule, Islam ALWAYS BREAK down with scrutiny. And this is why Muslims hardly ask questions. Doctrines based on fabrications usually cannot stand. Imagine the hadiths that are supposed to be iron--clad Sahih rendered impotent simply because it's a fabrication. Allah cannot be ONE and at the same time simultaneously OVER the heavens and UNDER it at the same time. |
| Re: Muslims are oblivious of the Serious Flaws in the Taoheed (Oneness of Allah)! by Qasim6(m): 10:37pm On Feb 26 |
Being a trinitarian is the worst thing that can happen to any one that believe in God. You are even trying hard to poke holes into the concept of Oneness of God, the concept adhered by Abraham, Moses and Jesus. As daft as you are, you want to destroy the fact that Allah is God almighty, even your god call his God Elaha, and Arab Christians call God Allah. My guy, u can only keep exposing ursef as the semi-pagan that you are. 3 Likes 1 Share |
| Re: Muslims are oblivious of the Serious Flaws in the Taoheed (Oneness of Allah)! by TenQ: 10:52pm On Feb 26 |
Qasim6:But, this is not the point for now. You can ask similar questions about the Trinity and I will oblige you with education. Quran 10:24 And if thou (Muhammad) art in doubt concerning that which We reveal unto thee, then question those who read the Scripture (that was) before thee. Verily the Truth from thy Lord hath come unto thee. So be not thou of the waverers. Ask Questions and you will learn and understand! You will discover that it's either Islam is full of lies or Allah is as limited as Iblis as he is also one. You don't even know the definition of Trinity yet you deny it. Is that not foolishness? Can you tell me exactly the definition of Trinity according to Allah? I am sure that you never saw the weakness of Taoheed like this. Can you see why you could not answer the questions? 1 Like |
| Re: Muslims are oblivious of the Serious Flaws in the Taoheed (Oneness of Allah)! by Qasim6(m): 11:05pm On Feb 26 |
TenQ: If you know what you believe in is the truth, hold fast to it. I also know without iota of doubt my belief is the ultimate truth so I'm going to hold fast to it. It's just a matter of time, we will soon be standing before our Creator. 1 Like |
| Re: Muslims are oblivious of the Serious Flaws in the Taoheed (Oneness of Allah)! by TenQ: 12:07am On Feb 27 |
Qasim6:It is not about Beliefs o! It is about the TRUTH. Some people in India believe strongly that the Cow is their Mother. Believe is useless as it doesn't make what is believed true. Jesus said: When you know the Truth, this Truth sets you free Allah says: Quran 29:46 Do not argue with the people of the Book unless in a fair way, apart from those who act wrongly, and say to them: "We believe what has been sent down to us, and we believe what has been sent down to you. Our God and your God is one, and to Him we submit." Unfortunately, the Truth is that Allah and Yahweh are not the same God. Yahweh is a Spirit and Allah is not! This should give you some concern. You refuse to think and ask some fundamental questions about the Messiah that would have saved your soul. 1. Why is Jesus the only human who is the spirit from Allah? 2. Why is Jesus the only human who is the word of Allah? 3. Why is Jesus the only human who is born without a Father? 4. Why is Jesus the only human who Allah took to himself in heaven and will be coming back again 5. Why is Jesus the only human who is a Co-Creator of life with Allah? But would you stop a little to think? My objective is to introduce you to the Messiah for the Salvation of your soul Jesus said: Unless aan is Born Again, he cannot enter Paradise Riyad as-Salihin 432 Abu Musa Al-Ash'ari (May Allah be pleased with him) reported: Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) said, "On the Day of Resurrection, Allah will deliver to every Muslim, a Jew or a Christian and say: 'This is your ransom from Hell-fire."' You think this hadith is true after Allah supposedly created Christianity!? A Muslim is one who lives by the mantra of Don't confuse me with the Truth because I have already made up my mind I pray you will not face eternity only to discover that you have been decieved by the Greatest Deciever! Allah says: ALL Muslims will enter Hell then Allah will later remove you and leave the evil doers hobbling on their knees! Quran 19:71-72 There is not one of you who will not go down to the Fire, that is a fixed Decree of your Lord Then, We will save those who were cautious of Us, but the harmdoers shall be left there hobbling on their knees Doesn't this concern you? 4 Likes 1 Share |
| Re: Muslims are oblivious of the Serious Flaws in the Taoheed (Oneness of Allah)! by TenQ: 7:38am On Feb 27 |
My questions have been elementarily simple. It's amazing that no Muslim here has deemed to process it. Questions; 1. Can Allah be Above the seven heavens and be below it at the same time? 2. If it is true that Allah descends every third part of the night to the lowest heavens, doe it not mean that Allah is perpetually on earth? 3. If Muslims will see Allah physically in paradise, does it not show that Allah is limited? 4. If it is true that Allah will change his shape when he appears to Muslims in paradise, what happens to Allah's first shape? 5. If Allah is too big to enter into his creation, how then does he descend from his throne to the lowest heaven? 6. What is special with Taoheed of Allah since we know that Iblis is also one and unique? |
| Re: Muslims are oblivious of the Serious Flaws in the Taoheed (Oneness of Allah)! by TenQ: 7:42am On Feb 27 |
Qasim6:Do you know that Islam is simply the Replacement of the Messiah with Mohammed ? And you think this is logical? |
| Re: Muslims are oblivious of the Serious Flaws in the Taoheed (Oneness of Allah)! by AntiChristian: 9:45am On Feb 27 |
TenQ: This is a lie! We believe in Jesus as the Prophet sent to the people of Israel and Muhammad was send later after him as the last prophet to humankind! If you believed Muhammad replaced Jesus then did Jesus replaced John the Baptist and previous Prophets before him? Why do you need the new Testament if the Old is not flawed? Islam remains the only religion that believes in the sanctity of all Prophets of Allah from Adam to Muhammad! |
| Re: Muslims are oblivious of the Serious Flaws in the Taoheed (Oneness of Allah)! by AntiChristian: 10:03am On Feb 27 |
advocatejare: No one really needs to answer you guys especially of unseen things about Allah! You believe your God can be one and be three persons! One person from the three can enter people as Holy Spirit! The other son can die, become man, eat, be born like human and even be protected by humans, etc. And the last God the father has other 24 elders helping me doing some other things in heaven! The answer to your post needless and pointless! Anything regarding faith is for us to believe! Allah says He (istawa) rose over His throne (as it befits His majesty) and we don't ask "how"! Allah says He descends at the last part of the night and we don't ask "how"! These questions are needless as Allah is the All-Powerful, and is able to do all things! |
| Re: Muslims are oblivious of the Serious Flaws in the Taoheed (Oneness of Allah)! by TenQ: 10:36am On Feb 27 |
I will answer you in TWO Parts AntiChristian:What is the lie? -Christian cannot enter paradise without Jesus -Muslims cannot enter paradise without Mohammed. Wouldn't the Angels ask you three questions of 1. Who is your Lord? 2. What is your Religion 3. Who is your prophet Is this verse maudu? Quran 3:85 And whoever desires a religion other than Islam, it shall not be accepted from him, and in the hereafter he shall be one of the losers. Are you as Muslims Born Again? John 3:3 Jesus answered and said to him, “Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.” Do you as Muslims beleive this? John 3:14-16 14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of Man be lifted up, 15 that whoever believes in Him should [a]not perish but have eternal life. 16 For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. AntiChristian:Who told you that Mohammed was sent after Jesus? What is the evidence? If you believe Jesus was sent to the people of Israel, What makes you different from Iblis? Does Iblis also NOT know this? AntiChristian:It is you Muslims who believe that Mohammed replaced Jesus: Don't you claim that Muhammad is the Last Prophet and thus the Greatest prophet? Don't you Muslims associate the name of Mohammed with the name of Allah? Don't you Muslims associate the knowledge of Mohammed with the knowledge of Allah? Don't you Muslims say Muhammad will intercede for you Muslims rather than Jesus? Is it untrue that just as a contemporary Christian cannot enter paradise without Jesus, a contemporary Muslim cannot enter paradise without reciting the shahada (which associates the name of Muhammad with Allah)? AntiChristian:Merging 10 religions together distorts the true Religion: it doesn't make it better. Have you heard of the Religion called ChrisLamHerb ? According to you, It must be better than Christianity, Islam and Traditional Worship combined See perfect argument. Dont you know that a FAKE is always a mixture of TRUTH and LIES? 3 Likes 1 Share |
| Re: Muslims are oblivious of the Serious Flaws in the Taoheed (Oneness of Allah)! by advocatejare(m): 10:38am On Feb 27 |
AntiChristian:Stop the crying, show us where Allah ever refers to himself as a king! Why do you call him Olorun Oba Allah? That was the question you were asked, not the aroye isonu |
| Re: Muslims are oblivious of the Serious Flaws in the Taoheed (Oneness of Allah)! by TenQ: 10:42am On Feb 27 |
THE SECOND PART: AntiChristian: I wrote this Thread Because of You, therefore, don't run away from the Questions: First, Let me bring you down memory lane from your POST Remember this your POST AntiChristian:Check My Response TenQ: Now, I have written this: Kindly respond to the questions! Questions: 1. Can Allah be Above the seven heavens and be below it at the same time? 2. If it is true that Allah descends every third part of the night to the lowest heavens, doe it not mean that Allah is perpetually on earth? 3. If Muslims will see Allah physically in paradise, does it not show that Allah is limited? 4. If it is true that Allah will change his shape when he appears to Muslims in paradise, what happens to Allah's first shape? 5. If Allah is too big to enter into his creation, how then does he descend from his throne to the lowest heaven? 6. What is special with Taoheed of Allah since we know that Iblis is also one and unique? If you are confused, I gave you the basis for my question in the original post https://www.nairaland.com/8013043/muslims-oblivious-serious-flaws-taoheed#128655646 |
| Re: Muslims are oblivious of the Serious Flaws in the Taoheed (Oneness of Allah)! by TenQ: 11:05am On Feb 27 |
AntiChristian:It is actually because you have no logical coherent response without it exposing other lies you have made to prop up Allah. AntiChristian:Of course, Yahweh is not like a stone that can only be in one place at a time and is completely unitary. And because you either dont know your religion or the lies are not adding up 1. When Jibril became a perfect man, did he stop being an Angel? 2. When Muhammad went to paradise and he saw all the prophets, were they resurrected or its another lie because prophets are supposed to be praying in their graves here on earth? 3. Yahweh can be in Heaven on His throne and Everywhere at the same time by His Spirit and His Command (the Word) can be directed anywhere in physical or spiritual space and time. 4. Even we humans are at least a Duality, How much more God the Creator AntiChristian:The 24 Elders worship Yahweh continually: I don't know your problem with that AntiChristian:Allah is able to do all things yet 1. He cannot have a son without a girlfriend 2. He can not enter his Creation without being limited 3. He cannot be in Heaven and on the Earth as the same time. But as usual of Muslims: they would rather hold on to cascade of lies because they refuse to ask questions. Do you know that 419 people will rather you don't ask many questions? Why!? Quran 5:101 O ye who believe! Ask not questions about things which, if made plain to you, may cause you trouble. But if ye ask about things when the Qur'an is being revealed, they will be made plain to you, Allah will forgive those: for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Forbearing. Is this not a classic 419 strategy? 4 Likes 3 Shares |
| Re: Muslims are oblivious of the Serious Flaws in the Taoheed (Oneness of Allah)! by Expanse2020(m): 11:11am On Feb 27 |
TenQ: The concept of bible , trinity is false that why we can accept bible as authentic book from Allah which Jeremiah 8:8 confirmed it But when you talk about the gospel giving to both Moses and Jesus they only said one thing O Isreal worship your my lord and your lord is One.... |
| Re: Muslims are oblivious of the Serious Flaws in the Taoheed (Oneness of Allah)! by AntiChristian: 11:16am On Feb 27 |
TenQ:Jesus didn't use the word Christians! It was invented after him. This is obviously a lie! -Muslims cannot enter paradise without Mohammed.This true and false! Muslims that came before Muhammad may enter Paradise with their respective Prophets! The Ummah of Muhammad is the last Ummah and the first to enter Paradise with Muhammad! Wouldn't the Angels ask you three questions ofThese are questions in the grave after death and burial! Is this verse maudu?The Qur'an is entirely Saheeh and never Mawdoo' nor Da'eef! Are you as Muslims Born Again?So i ask you, did Jesus tell everybody this same preaching? He preached to thousands and fed them. He met the rich ruler who asked his about eternal life. Did Jesus tell him about being born again? Were Moses, David, Abraham, etc born again before they enter Paradise? Being born again is Jihad-Nafsi which is striving against one's soul to do good and avoid evil as prescribed by God! Do you as Muslims beleive this?We do believe in Moses and as well as Jesus the son of Mary, a man approved of God ( who is not God) Acts 2:22. Who told you that Mohammed was sent after Jesus?The Islamic texts have evidences you can peruse! If you believe Jesus was sent to the people of Israel, I am human. Iblis is a Jinn. Jinns live longer and Allah has granted him respite not to die till the last day! It is you Muslims who believe that Mohammed replaced Jesus:The one who ran the last lap is usually the assumed winner of the race! And of course he is the greatest and final Prophet. His message was for Mankind and Jinns unlike others who were to lesser group of people! Don't you Muslims associate the name of Mohammed with the name of Allah?Allah associated his name with that of Muhammad! Muhammad is the messenger of Allah! Don't you Muslims associate the knowledge of Mohammed with the knowledge of Allah? This is false! The knowledge of Allah is infinite while Muhammad's knowledge as regards the religion came from Allah's revelations! Is it untrue that just as a contemporary Christian cannot enter paradise without Jesus, a contemporary Muslim cannot enter paradise without reciting the shahada (which associates the name of Muhammad with Allah)? Once again, Jesus is not aware of the word "Christian"! It was a creation after Jesus! And a contemporary Muslim who lived from and after the time of Muhammad must believe in him as the messenger of Allah. This is similar to the way the people of Moses believed him. Also People of Noah believed Noah as God's Prophet! They never worshiped them! Merging 10 religions together distorts the true Religion: it doesn't make it better.What are the 10 religions merged? Have you heard of the Religion called ChrisLamHerb ? Where did this come from and how relevant is this? To me all religions are creation of men apart from Islam! And a Christian is a Kaafir as well as a Christlamhab! |
| Re: Muslims are oblivious of the Serious Flaws in the Taoheed (Oneness of Allah)! by TenQ: 11:18am On Feb 27 |
At least you do not deny the weakness and illogicality of the Taoheed based on my submissions Questions: 1. Can Allah be Above the seven heavens and be below it at the same time? 2. If it is true that Allah descends every third part of the night to the lowest heavens, doe it not mean that Allah is perpetually on earth? 3. If Muslims will see Allah physically in paradise, does it not show that Allah is limited? 4. If it is true that Allah will change his shape when he appears to Muslims in paradise, what happens to Allah's first shape? 5. If Allah is too big to enter into his creation, how then does he descend from his throne to the lowest heaven? 6. What is special with Taoheed of Allah since we know that Iblis is also one and unique? Expanse2020:1. How do you know that the concept of Trinity is False? 2. How exactly did Allah define Trinity in the Quran? 3. Why do you think the Concept of Trinity is False according to How we Christians define it? At least you must understand a concept before denying it? |
| Re: Muslims are oblivious of the Serious Flaws in the Taoheed (Oneness of Allah)! by AntiChristian: 11:22am On Feb 27 |
advocatejare: Allah instructed us in the Qur'an: Say (O Muhammad SAW): "O Allah! Possessor of the kingdom, You give the kingdom to whom You will, and You take the kingdom from whom You will, and You endue with honour whom You will, and You humiliate whom You will. In Your Hand is the good. Verily, You are Able to do all things. Allah is bigger than a king! If you call your God a King then who are the subjects? If you call him "Kings of Kings" does that mean He's like one Paramount ruler bigger than other smaller ones? |
| Re: Muslims are oblivious of the Serious Flaws in the Taoheed (Oneness of Allah)! by TenQ: 12:20pm On Feb 27 |
AntiChristian:As if Jesus came to establish a Religion: He didnt sir. Jesus came to establish a relationship John 1:12 12 But to all who did receive him, who believed in his name, He gave the right to become children of God, Is God your Father? NO! AntiChristian:False! I chose my words carefully: "Contemporary" AntiChristian:And if TenQ in his grave said , "Jesus is my Prophet and not Mohammed", would it be accepted of me? Meaning that you have substituted Mohammed for Jesus as a means to salvation. AntiChristian:You have made my case: as long as that ayah is Saheeh, you have replaced Jesu with Mohammed. Of course the Quran cannot be trusted: but this is not the point for today so that we don't go off topic. AntiChristian:As far as you are concerned God is partial Romans 2:6-29 For there is no partiality with God. For as many as have sinned without law will also perish without law, and as many as have sinned in the law will be judged by the law (for not the hearers of the law are just in the sight of God, but the doers of the law will be justified; for when Gentiles, who do not have the law, by nature do the things in the law, these, although not having the law, are a law to themselves, who show the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and between themselves their thoughts accusing or else excusing them) in the day when God will judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ, according to my gospel. Even then Christ redeemed those who from the time of Noah were disobedient according to 1 Peter 3:19 The Prophet Isaiah spoke about the purpose of the Messiah Isaiah 53:5-6 But He was wounded for our transgressions, He was bruised for our iniquities; The chastisement for our peace was upon Him, And by His stripes we are healed. We all, like sheep, have gone astray, each of us has turned to our own way; and the LORD has laid on him the iniquity of us all. John 10:28 28 And I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; neither shall anyone snatch them out of My hand. Jesus defined it again John 17:1-3 17 Jesus spoke these words, lifted up His eyes to heaven, and said: “Father, the hour has come. Glorify Your Son, that Your Son also may glorify You, 2 as You have given Him authority over all flesh, that He should give eternal life to as many as You have given Him. AntiChristian:Is this your revised definition of Born Again? Jesus who invented the Word Born Again Defined it properly John 3:14-15 14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of Man be lifted up, 15 that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have eternal life. Did Jesus die on the Cross? AntiChristian:I did not ask you if you believed in Moses! Iblis do believe Moses too: what makes you different? But that is not the point: Jesus said: As moses lifted up the serpent in the Wilderness, so also He would be lifted up. If you beleive in Gods solution for the slavation of your soul, you will be saved. If not, you will perish. AntiChristian:How can Islamic text (that came 640 years after Jesus) be a proof especially when it contradicts the earlier revelations!? What prophecy connects any of the Prophet of Yahweh with Mohammed? AntiChristian:I didnt ask you about how log Jinns lived. You said that : You believe Jesus was sent to the people of Israel! And I said: What makes you different from Iblis? Does Iblis also NOT know this? AntiChristian:Really!? John the Baptist was Born Before Jesus BUT John the Baptist also died before Jesus According to your theory: who is the last among them? AntiChristian:Taqiyya master! Please give me a reference where Allah associated his name and knowledge with any man? Is Mohammed not a human being again? AntiChristian:Is it untrue then that you Muslims says: "Allah and his messenger knows best!" Except if I don't understand simple English again. After a BEST knowledge, what can be better? AntiChristian:And Jesus never came to establish a religion. Let me ask you: WHat is the name of the Religion of Moses? Because, Moses did not give ANY name to what is referred to as "Judaism" or "the religion of the Jews" What name did Allah in the Quran call the religion of the Jews? AntiChristian:Is it untrue that: Mohammed merged selected aspects of Judaism with Christianity and Arab Pagan worship to arrive at Islam? Idf NOT, why did Mohammed kiss the Black stone? Why do you circumnavigate the kaaba? Why does Mohammed copy some of the the traditions of the people of the Book? AntiChristian: Christians are Kaafir and yet Mohammed was copying Kaafirs just as he kissed the blackstone!? Sahih al-Bukhari 5917 Narrated Ibn `Abbas: The Prophet used to copy the people of the Scriptures in matters in which there was no order from Allah. The people of the Scripture used to let their hair hang down while the pagans used to part their hair. So the Prophet (ﷺ) let his hair hang down first, but later on he parted it. Tell Me: Is it the fake that copies the Original or the Original that copies the FAKE? 2 Likes 1 Share |
| Re: Muslims are oblivious of the Serious Flaws in the Taoheed (Oneness of Allah)! by TenQ: 12:23pm On Feb 27 |
Mr AntiChristian, The major Question is still this: Questions: 1. Can Allah be Above the seven heavens and be below it at the same time? 2. If it is true that Allah descends every third part of the night to the lowest heavens, doe it not mean that Allah is perpetually on earth? 3. If Muslims will see Allah physically in paradise, does it not show that Allah is limited? 4. If it is true that Allah will change his shape when he appears to Muslims in paradise, what happens to Allah's first shape? 5. If Allah is too big to enter into his creation, how then does he descend from his throne to the lowest heaven? 6. What is special with Taoheed of Allah since we know that Iblis is also one and unique? |
| Re: Muslims are oblivious of the Serious Flaws in the Taoheed (Oneness of Allah)! by AntiChristian: 12:47pm On Feb 27 |
TenQ: You are right! There's no answer to such questions just as the questions are useless. That's why I seldom answer you! Of course, Yahweh is not like a stone that can only be in one place at a time and is completely unitary.You've been reciting the above poems for long! Continue to sing as no answer will ever suffice you! We don't qualify Allah with such filthy languages! He is the Most perfect! I know it's certain Yahweh awoke as from sleep, as a warrior wakes from the stupor of wine. Psalm 78:65! For the foolishness of God is wiser than human wisdom, and the weakness of God is stronger than human strength. 1 Cor 1-25 The 24 Elders worship Yahweh continually: I don't know your problem with thatOf what importance is God having son and 24 elders? Who are the 24 elders? When were they created? What are their names? Of what essence are they? Can they die? Can they reproduce? Are they like God? Do they sing, clap and dance in worship like you do here? Do they pay tithe? Are they Christians since they worship God too? Do they believe Jesus died as God too? Allah is able to do all things yet Of course Allah can do all things! But somethings are not befitting His majesty! Whatever He says about Himself we believe without asking "how". We can ask you how does the son sit at the right hand of God when God is one? And where does the Holy Spirit sit if they are co-equal? But as usual of Muslims: they would rather hold on to cascade of lies because they refuse to ask questions. You are asking useless questions. That's why I love Islam. You don't ask useless questions! This verse you quoted forbids people to ask useless and unnecessary questions because some people used to put such questions to the Holy Prophet as were of no practical good for mundane affairs nor for spiritual up-lift. For example, once a certain person while sitting in a gathering asked him, "Who is my real father?'' Likewise, sometimes, some people put unnecessary questions concerning legal matters so as to get these defined, whereas they had been purposely kept undefined for the good of the people. Far example, when Hajj was made obligatory by a commandment in the Qur'an a certain person heard it, and instantly asked. "Has it been made obligatory to perform Hajj every year'" The Holy Prophet did not make any reply. The man repeated the question, but he again kept quiet. When the man put the question for the third time, he replied, "Woe to you! If I had said: 'Yes', the performance of Hajj every year would have become obligatory and people like you would have been unable to perform it and been guilty of disobedience. " The Holy Prophet himself forbade people to ask questions for the sake of it and to probe into things aimlessly. In a Tradition he warned, "The worst offender against the Muslims is the person who asked a question about something that had not been made unlawful but was made so because of his question." In another Tradition he said, "Allah has prescribed some obligatory duties for you; let not these go unfulfilled, and He has made certain things unlawful, so do not go near them. He has prescribed certain limits, do not transgress them. He has been silent concerning certain things, but not because He has forgotten them; so do not try to probe into such things." In these two Traditions a warning has been served against a very serious matter. There are certain things and commandments which have been left vague and without details. This is not because the Law-giver had forgo ten to give details or to make them specific but because He did not intend to limit these in order to leave a wide scope for the people. Therefore if a person goes on creating one issue after the other, by putting unnecessary and useless questions and thus creates limitations and specifications, he puts the people to unnecessary trouble. Likewise if he tries to deduce the details by the force of his "reasoning". and does trot rest content till.he has made the vague things specific and the indefinite definite. he in reality puts the Muslims in a very awkward position. This is because the more details we otter for the Unseen and the Next World, the more will be the chances for creating doubts about them and, likewise, the more limitations are imposed concerning the Commandments, the greater will be the chance for their violation. The people, who were involved in disbelief because they asked useless and unnecessary questions, were the Jews. At first they were involved in hairsplitting, which led them to put unnecessary questions about the details of the Faith and the Commandments. Consequently, they helped to impose upon themselves such restrictions as they could not observe and so became guilty of disobedience and disbelief, What a pity that the Muslims are following the Jews, step by step, in spite of these warnings by the Qur'an and the Holy Prophet! |
| Re: Muslims are oblivious of the Serious Flaws in the Taoheed (Oneness of Allah)! by TenQ: 4:41pm On Feb 27 |
AntiChristian:You have no answer simply because you CANNOT respond without your answers exposing the cascade of lies you have used to prop up Allah, Islam and Mohammed AntiChristian:Of course, when we did into the Quran for you, wee see Trinity and Duality within them unfortunately, when you don’t ask questions, how can you know. Let me help you with the Trinity of Jesus in the Quran Jesus is a Human messenger of Allah Jesus is a Spirit from Allah Jesus is the Word of Allah Can you please explain if the Word of Allah is a Spirit? Can you explain how Jesus is THREE distinct different personalities AntiChristian:It doesn’t surprise me that Allah doesn’t know more than Angels , Jinn, Humans as creatures AntiChristian:Who gave you the audacity to determine what is beneath God to do? But did not your prophet say that Allah descends to the lowest heaven: if I understand nature well, the lowest heaven is a creation of Allah Did Mohammed tell a lie that Allah descend to the lowest heaven? Did Mohammed tell a lie that Allah comes down everyday and the third part of the night to the lowest heaven to listen to the supplications of you Muslims? If this is NOT a lie, then Allah is trapped permanently on the earth: or doesn't Allah know that the earth is spherical? AntiChristian:Only 419s tell people not to ask Questions until they are completely swindled Unfortunately, the lies of Mohammed are well documented. 1. If Allah is above the seven heavens (which is also all above the earth), Allah cannot be omnipresent. It is logically impossible for Allah to be above the heavens and below it at the same time. 2. If Allah descend to the lowest heaven everyday at the third part of the night to listen to the supplications of the Muslims, then Allah cannot be omniscient. It is either that Allah is not knowledgeable that the earth is not flat but spherical (thus Allah is trapped forever on the earth) and it is thus impossible for Allah to be on his throne above the heavens at the same time. Is Allah permanently on his throne in paradise or permanently on earth? 3. If Muslims will see Allah with their eyes on the Day of judgement, it means that Allah is finite both in scope and size. Moreover, Allah is NOT a spirit according to Islamic scholars, thus Allah is a physical being. How can Allah be infinitely big if his throne is carried by angels and he can be seen by people? 4. If Allah changes his shape to the Muslims, then this proves that the shape of Allah is created. If not, can any Muslim tell us what happened to the original shape of Allah when he appeared to you in a different shape. Obviously, the first shape not the second shape of Allah are not eternal. There is no Islamic doctrine that Allah is shapeless. Which of the shapes of Allah is eternal? 5. If Allah is too big to enter his creation, how come he managed to pass through the layers of heaven to the lowest heavens in order to listen to the supplications of the Muslims at the third part of the night? 6. Of course, there is no dispute that Allah is One but then, What is the difference between the Oneness of Allah and the Oneness of Iblis (satan)? If there is no difference apart from difference in assigned attributes, then there is NOTHING special about the Taoheed of Allah. I expect you to run away as usual! |
| Re: Muslims are oblivious of the Serious Flaws in the Taoheed (Oneness of Allah)! by TenQ: 7:39pm On Feb 27 |
Do you know that 419 people will rather you don't ask many questions? Why!? Quran 5:101 O ye who believe! Ask not questions about things which, if made plain to you, may cause you trouble. But if ye ask about things when the Qur'an is being revealed, they will be made plain to you, Allah will forgive those: for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Forbearing. Is this not a classic 419 strategy? As a rule, Islam ALWAYS BREAK down with scrutiny. And this is why Muslims hardly ask questions. Doctrines based on fabrications usually cannot stand. Imagine the hadiths that are supposed to be iron--clad Sahih rendered impotent simply because it's a fabrication. Allah cannot be ONE and at the same time simultaneously OVER the heavens and UNDER it at the same time. |
| Re: Muslims are oblivious of the Serious Flaws in the Taoheed (Oneness of Allah)! by TenQ: 10:38pm On Feb 27 |
The Flaws In The Taoheed (doctrine Of Oneness Of Allah) Destroys Allah As God The fundamental doctrine of Islam is the Taoheed meaning: The Oneness of Allah. Unfortunately, inasmuch as Muslims would like to grandrously magnify Allah and make him the same as the God of the people of the Book, they unfortunately limit him unknowingly. As a rule, Islam ALWAYS BREAK down with scrutiny. And this is why Muslims hardly ask questions. You will all see that a little examination of Islamic doctrine expose the weakness of the Taoheed. Taoheed makes Allah a limited God because of these claims of Islam below. Claims of Islam : 1. Allah is on his throne upon the waters above the seven heavens. 2. Allah descend everyday to the lowest heaven at the third part of the night to listen to the supplications of the Muslims 3. Muslims will SEE Allah with their eyes on the Day of judgement 4. Allah will appear to the Muslims and will change his shape to. another form on the Day of resurrection to a form unknown to the Muslims (Muslims will be in disbelief until until they see the shin of Allah) 5. Allah cannot enter into his creation because he is too big for that If ALL these are true, then 1. If Allah is above the seven heavens (which is also all above the earth), Allah cannot be omnipresent. It is logically impossible for Allah to be above the heavens and below it at the same time. 2. If Allah descend to the lowest heaven everyday at the third part of the night to listen to the supplications of the Muslims, then Allah cannot be omniscient. It is either that Allah is not knowledgeable that the earth is not flat but spherical (thus Allah is trapped forever on the earth) and it is thus impossible for Allah to be on his throne above the heavens at the same time 3. If Muslims will see Allah with their eyes on the Day of judgement, it means that Allah is finite both in scope and size. Moreover, Allah is NOT a spirit according to Islamic scholars, thus Allah is a physical being. 4. If Allah changes his shape to the Muslims, then this proves that the shape of Allah is created. If not, can any Muslim tell us what happened to the original shape of Allah when he appeared to you in a different shape. Obviously, the first shape not the second shape of Allah are not eternal. There is no Islamic doctrine that Allah is shapeless 5. If Allah is too big to enter his creation, how come he managed to pass through the layers of heaven to the lowest heavens in order to listen to the supplications of the Muslims at the third part of the night? 6. Of course, there is no dispute that Allah is One but then, What is the difference between the Oneness of Allah and the Oneness of Iblis (satan)? If there is no difference apart from difference in assigned attributes, then there is NOTHING special about the Taoheed of Allah. Of course, except if ALL these claims of Muslims about Allah is FABRICATED as usual Questions; 1. Can Allah be Above the seven heavens and be below it at the same time? 2. If it is true that Allah descends every third part of the night to the lowest heavens, doe it not mean that Allah is perpetually on earth? 3. If Muslims will see Allah physically in paradise, does it not show that Allah is limited? 4. If it is true that Allah will change his shape when he appears to Muslims in paradise, what happens to Allah's first shape? 5. If Allah is too big to enter into his creation, how then does he descend from his throne to the lowest heaven? 6. What is special with Taoheed of Allah since we know that Iblis is also one and unique? References are included next page! All my Friends on Nairaland: LegalWolf Vanessa7 AntiChristian Empiree, Rash4ductluv, BabaHeekmat, aekymbahd, motayoayinde, drlateef, Thatfairguy1, MrCodeSolo , Hisbah21, atsleepboy1 , Lordmoh , OBALOLA55, x123xlolls , Lukuluku69 , mhmsadyq, Ibsaq , Herkeym001 , Sulasa07 , hakeemhakeem , abduljabbar4 ,olaalekan ,Friend22 , uthlaw , Exc2000 , AbuTwins ,Akhirastriver ,Akinbahm , Sino , KayB , youngdroly , jaggabban , ukeleh , Realismailakabir , Bami8064 Greatgr , Gaskiyamagana , compton11, Alfarouq , MrCodeSolo Satmaniac saintHot, drlateef, Donkmore Akinbahm , IMEI , FATHAT , talk2hb1 , iamrealdeji , Encyclopedia1 , SWATMan rolams aheeqilmaktoom , Bintdawood , Flanker , Raheeqilmaktoom , rolams ,honesttalk21 , Negroid001 , Nvestor02 , Coolsat, iamrealdeji madridguy Almunjid MohammadSAW , STRI1 Explore2xmore satmaniac Ohyoudidnt , 4islam ThatFairGuy1 BroOptimist. Bakrabas. Musa95 Ibrahimlagosian Explore2xmore hakeemhakeem ItsReal correctguy101 Qasim6 youngdroly Bliss52 Qasim6 truthday Almunjid hayzedibd ahmedio2017 cc: MightySparrow SIRTee15 ANTIlSLAM innotutorial FxMasterz advocatejare |
| Re: Muslims are oblivious of the Serious Flaws in the Taoheed (Oneness of Allah)! by SIRTee15: 1:13am On Feb 28 |
Qasim6: Since trinity makes no sense maybe U that have sense can explain this verse to me... Genesis 19 24 Then the LORD rained upon Sodom and upon Gomorrah brimstone and fire from the LORD out of heaven; Pls don't tell me the verse is corrupt. Thank U. |
| Re: Muslims are oblivious of the Serious Flaws in the Taoheed (Oneness of Allah)! by MightySparrow: 3:01am On Feb 28 |
TenQ: Allah may have existed as the almighty to Arabs thought of the 'almighty' among tribes and races like Olodumare for yorubas, Chineke for igbos, Ubangiji for Hausas, unknown God for the Greeks in the Bible. Allah was adopted by Mohammed to appeal to Arabs as the almighty God. He used the same method for the Jews but was resisted especially when he tried to rewrite the Jewish history. The fraudphet muddle things up to win acceptance from the Arabs and Christians. When his antics didn't work, he took to arms claiming that God sent him. He is not trustworthy at all as a bearer of any divine message. How can Allah say that sperm originate from spinal cord? He didn't understand his creation again? Allah is an imposition of Mohammed. 3 Likes 1 Share |
| Re: Muslims are oblivious of the Serious Flaws in the Taoheed (Oneness of Allah)! by TenQ: 4:37am On Feb 28 |
SIRTee15:It is even better when you give him as Genesis 19:24 Then the YAHWEH rained upon Sodom and upon Gomorrah brimstone and fire from the YAHWEH out of heaven; Even JW and fanatical Jews with their argumentative spirit are perplexed by this verse You will see that Mohammed is always lieing about Allah. Unknowingly, he set Allah in a serious predicament If it is true that Allah comes down every third part of the earth from his throne to the lowest heavens to listen to the supplications of the Muslims, then one or all these three is true 1. Allah is permanently trapped here on earth 2. The narration is a fabrication 3. Allah is oblivious that the earth is spherical. Either of these three disproves both Allah and Mohammed. You can thus see why they avoid the thread. Muslims truly believe in the mantra : Don't confuse me with the Truth because I have already made up my mind 2 Likes 1 Share |
| Re: Muslims are oblivious of the Serious Flaws in the Taoheed (Oneness of Allah)! by FxMasterz: 5:57am On Feb 28 |
Qasim6: He's not destroying the fact that Allah is God Almighty, he's asking you questions that challenges the fact. If you think he has destroyed that fact, that's only because you have no answer to the questions that have challenged the Almightiness of Allah. And Allah's Almightiness remains destroyed until you can provide an answer. What do you understand by the word 'Trinity'? I read where TenQ poised a question to Antichritian regarding the Trinity of Jesus in the Quran. Maybe you can help him answer the question because he blatantly avoided the question: Jesus is reflected in the Quran as a Human messenger of Allah. He is also the Spirit of Allah according to the Quran. Not only that, Jesus is also the Word of Allah as expressed by your Quran. Can you practically explain this obvious Trinity without deviating? How's one Person Human, Spirit and Word at the same time? This is another poser to you: I'm sure you believe that man has both spirit and body. That means man is a duality. What makes it difficult then for you to grasp the notion that God is a Trinity? 2 Likes |
| Re: Muslims are oblivious of the Serious Flaws in the Taoheed (Oneness of Allah)! by Antiislaam(m): 8:21am On Feb 28 |
TenQ: Muslims are the best example of what confusion is all about 1 Like |
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