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Re: Is Frosbel Now An Atheist ? by johnydon22(m): 7:24am On Dec 22, 2014 |
honourhim: hehehehehehe answer is "Because his parents told him and showed him in the bible" |
Re: Is Frosbel Now An Atheist ? by malvisguy212: 7:35am On Dec 22, 2014 |
Jack65:it may interest you that the guy do not know the scripture very well,the guy say paul contradict jesus on faith and work, he quote ephesians2:8, but unfortunately ephesians2:8 was talking about salvation is free not work and faith as he claim. Read here. https://www.nairaland.com/1981918/did-paul-invent-christianity |
Re: Is Frosbel Now An Atheist ? by Jack65: 7:46am On Dec 22, 2014 |
malvisguy212: Is that all you saw? How about his conversion story and the discrepancies ? |
Re: Is Frosbel Now An Atheist ? by vooks: 7:51am On Dec 22, 2014 |
Frosbel, There is an age old approach to theology of doubting EVERYTHING and then only working with what is left. Could you please tell us so far what it is that you find left after removing all the lies and junk in the Bible? |
Re: Is Frosbel Now An Atheist ? by Hiswordxray(m): 8:36am On Dec 22, 2014 |
johnydon22:Go and research very well. The one written by 70 AD was a copy of the real one. The books of the gospel were written much more late. Off course you didn't research deep before jumping to wrong conclution just as you did study your bible well before becoming an atheist. |
Re: Is Frosbel Now An Atheist ? by johnydon22(m): 8:57am On Dec 22, 2014 |
Hiswordxray: lmao so i am now an atheist hahahahahahaha... please i am done with u |
Re: Is Frosbel Now An Atheist ? by honourhim: 9:35am On Dec 22, 2014 |
johnydon22: His parents also told him about the virgin birth in the bible so since he has discarded that one he should discard the rest and do a total research, publish his findings for us to look into. |
Re: Is Frosbel Now An Atheist ? by mumumugu(m): 9:39am On Dec 22, 2014 |
frosbel: you dont have to call him mumu. You and i are mumu |
Re: Is Frosbel Now An Atheist ? by mumumugu(m): 9:41am On Dec 22, 2014 |
davien: the general good of those around you should surpass your own hapiness. That is the meaning of unselfishness |
Re: Is Frosbel Now An Atheist ? by johnydon22(m): 10:25am On Dec 22, 2014 |
honourhim:No not only him, we shouldnt wait around for him to do the research and bring his findings cus u and i know we will still disagree with his findings.. why not all of us put our beliefs aside and go into our own truth research instead of just believing it like our parents taught us, then we can compare and contrast our findings. let us seek the truth ourselves. 1 Like |
Re: Is Frosbel Now An Atheist ? by Nobody: 10:39am On Dec 22, 2014 |
vooks: Imagine if I was your friend for over 10 years and you suddenly realised that I was not really who I claimed to be. For example I was not a graduate, never lived in the US and was never in the CIA. Would you not begin to doubt everything I ever told you ? One LIE is all it takes to introduce doubt and any sensible person will begin to find if everything else is truth. |
Re: Is Frosbel Now An Atheist ? by Nobody: 10:40am On Dec 22, 2014 |
Hiswordxray: No original copies exist to validate your claim. |
Re: Is Frosbel Now An Atheist ? by Nobody: 10:41am On Dec 22, 2014 |
Jack65: Actually Paul is one of the most authentic people on the bible even more than the gospel writers. Femi has his own point of view which I don't agree with. Thanks. |
Re: Is Frosbel Now An Atheist ? by Nobody: 10:43am On Dec 22, 2014 |
Ifeann: Then you have not read any historical and theological material other than the bible. And besides I believe God inspired the Bible and protected it. So I have no doubts. You cannot protect God's word, God does it himself. It is because MAN has tried to protect what he presumes to be the word of God that he has made a terrible mess of it and in the process introduced fabrications and outright lies. |
Re: Is Frosbel Now An Atheist ? by vooks: 10:44am On Dec 22, 2014 |
What is the ONE LIE that led you here? frosbel: |
Re: Is Frosbel Now An Atheist ? by Nobody: 10:51am On Dec 22, 2014 |
vooks: Bible contradictions. |
Re: Is Frosbel Now An Atheist ? by johnydon22(m): 11:00am On Dec 22, 2014 |
people saying everything in the bible is the word of God... Am still wondering how jewish myth and jewish history is the word of God... 1 Like |
Re: Is Frosbel Now An Atheist ? by vooks: 11:04am On Dec 22, 2014 |
ONE LIE please. Just one frosbel: |
Re: Is Frosbel Now An Atheist ? by Nobody: 11:22am On Dec 22, 2014 |
vooks: Virgin Birth |
Re: Is Frosbel Now An Atheist ? by vooks: 11:23am On Dec 22, 2014 |
Re: Is Frosbel Now An Atheist ? by Nobody: 11:29am On Dec 22, 2014 |
vooks: 1. Isaiah 7:14 was not referring to Jesus. Read this verse again and then read Isaiah 8:1-4 2. How did Matthew and Luke know that Mary and Joseph dreamed these dreams since dreams are very private experiences. 3. Who was the father of Jesus : God the Father or God the Holy Spirit 4. Why did Jesus's parents and siblings still consider him ordinary despite his miraculous birth, is that not odd. read , Mark 3:21,John 7:5. 5. If no MAN produced the seed that gave birth to Jesus, where did the 'Y' Chromosome come from ? |
Re: Is Frosbel Now An Atheist ? by vooks: 11:50am On Dec 22, 2014 |
frosbel: You know better than Matthew 2. How did Matthew and Luke know that Mary and Joseph dreamed these dreams since dreams are very private experiences.How did Moses know that God created the earth in 6 days and the exact order of the creation seeing nobody was there? Is it beyond reason to entertain the idea of them sharing the dreams? Joseph died early and Mary was there up to after Pentecost. 3. Who was the father of Jesus : God the Father or God the Holy SpiritHe is the Son of God. He was conceived of the Holy Spirit. But let me ask you. Was Jesus existing before his conception? If yes, who was his Father BEFORE conception? How differently could they have treated him? 5. If no MAN produced the seed that gave birth to Jesus, where did the 'Y' Chromosome come from ?How could a rotting corpse with coagulated blood sustain life of Lazarus? Is it scientifically possible? Your brain dies within minutes of breathing your last |
Re: Is Frosbel Now An Atheist ? by Nobody: 11:56am On Dec 22, 2014 |
^^^^^ These are not logical answers to what are valid questions, even a child will reject them all. I need intelligent responses not pentecostal regurgitated nonsense. Besides Matthew who wrote the gospel was not Matthew the apostle. Get some facts in that religious brain of yours 1 Like |
Re: Is Frosbel Now An Atheist ? by vooks: 12:00pm On Dec 22, 2014 |
Neither are your questions logical nor original but regurgitated garbage spewed by amateur skeptics over the years Like I told you before, it takes some minimal intelligence to be a skeptic frosbel: |
Re: Is Frosbel Now An Atheist ? by Nobody: 12:03pm On Dec 22, 2014 |
vooks: These are my own candid questions. But, now I know you lack any intelligence to discuss these important issues and it is for this very reason that you remain caged in the prison of superstition ideas and myth. Who is next...... 1 Like |
Re: Is Frosbel Now An Atheist ? by vooks: 12:05pm On Dec 22, 2014 |
Move on to the next 'LIE' please. You are embarrassing skeptics Is thinking painful? frosbel: |
Re: Is Frosbel Now An Atheist ? by Nobody: 12:07pm On Dec 22, 2014 |
vooks: don't make a fool of yourself and put your ignorance on public display, we don't what it spreading to anyone else , lol. But let me give you another opportunity, go and borrow the brain of someone who you think/know is capable of processing logic arguments and then come back here with your points rebutting my questions. |
Re: Is Frosbel Now An Atheist ? by vooks: 12:09pm On Dec 22, 2014 |
Thinking don't come easy to all of us I concede and I apologize for condescension Every other skeptic hallucinates they are the first. usually after reading Amazon reviews. I have read ALL of Dawkins inside out BTW. I am a member of 4 skeptics and atheists blogs and I know trash when I see it. You are amateur and your low IQ don't meet the threshold of a skeptic frosbel: |
Re: Is Frosbel Now An Atheist ? by Nobody: 12:10pm On Dec 22, 2014 |
vooks: I am not a Dawkin's fan, but let me ask you, when you read his book, what did you garner from his arguments ? |
Re: Is Frosbel Now An Atheist ? by vooks: 12:11pm On Dec 22, 2014 |
He is extremely intelligent. I salute his brains frosbel: |
Re: Is Frosbel Now An Atheist ? by Ifeann(f): 12:15pm On Dec 22, 2014 |
frosbel: You don't know me so don't assume you are more widely read than me. I will floor you anyday in a debate on theology. I told you the reason why most Muslims, agnostics, atheists and closet atheists(like yourself) have an issue with John. We can go deeper on the topic. I have evaluated many arguments on the issue that I addressed and gave u my opinion. That it doesn't agree with yours does NOT mean I haven't read any historical and theological material other than the bible as you ignorantly said. You said,"You cannot protect God's word, GOD DOES IT HIMSELF. It is because MAN has tried to protect what he presumes to be the word of God that he has made a terrible mess of it and in the process introduced fabrications and outright lies." Can't you see the glaring contraction in this your statement. If you can't see the contradiction then you are not sincerely searching for truth my friend, you have already made up your mind. 1 Like |
Re: Is Frosbel Now An Atheist ? by Nobody: 12:15pm On Dec 22, 2014 |
vooks: good, now go back and answer my questions and let us forgive each other for this unwarranted tirade I want a healthy argument not accusations and insults. Just assume I am a new believer who wants answers or even a beloved brother who is about to lose his faith. Forget that it is me , Frosbel the nasty, lol. |
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