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Re: Help! Friends, Family & Former School Mates From Nig Are Killing Me With Demands by Dollyak(f): 12:05am On Jul 09, 2015
astrodome:


25% of income as mortgage payment for donkey years is low? Where did you get that from?
Homeowners in 24 of the 30 largest metros covered by Zillow were paying more for homes in the fourth quarter of 2012 relative to their region’s median income than they were from 1985 through 1999. Metros with the largest difference between their pre-bubble and fourth quarter 2012 price-to-income ratios included San Jose (52.1 percent more), Los Angeles (48.8 percent more), Portland, OR, (45.4 percent more), San Diego (44.6 percent more) and Denver (40.8 percent more).

http://www.forbes.com/sites/zillow/2013/04/16/high-home-price-to-income-ratios-hiding-behind-low-mortgage-rates/
Re: Help! Friends, Family & Former School Mates From Nig Are Killing Me With Demands by mickey45: 12:06am On Jul 09, 2015
bravolad:
It's usually the case when you are well-off to Carter for the need of others. You do not necessarily have to send money to friends & relatives on a monthly basis except your parents. Even those who reside in Nigeria face similar challenges but a greater expectations await those who live outside the shores of this country.

Have special budget for your immediate family; parents & siblings. But the best approach is to set them up with some initiative that will provide them with monthly income. This requires a relatively huge sum over a period. Let them know you are borrowing to fund that business. Give them a timeline for refund (though you will not take the money from them). This will drastically reduce or eliminate over reliance on you for financial needs.

For distance relations and friends, help when it's absolutely imperative. I have an incline you have flamboyant Facebook page that keeps attracting your old friends. You must not be on fb much less chat every time. You must also learn to avoid those who overtly ask for help on a frequent basis. I can assure you that on the flip of the coin, they will not help. But then, the much you can help that will not put a financial strain on you & your family is a good measure of His grace.

Exactly what I plan doing. With God's blessings, I'd rather set someone up (knowing d shame n hurt that comes wt having to depend on someone for something u knw u'd have no probs wt if u'd made d right choices before)
And task them wt d responsibility of seeing to their own upkeep. Moreso, anyone who comes from that axis say d person's cousin/brother etc wld b directed to go assist d former in enlarging the business whilst d former also takes care of his assistant. That'll put an end to increasing demands from that axis.

God help us in the country. For some families, a single persons breakthrough is what lifts d others out of extreme poverty so one can't totally ignore them.

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Re: Help! Friends, Family & Former School Mates From Nig Are Killing Me With Demands by InvertedHammer: 12:09am On Jul 09, 2015
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LOL.


Ph.D, two cars, mortgage, six figures income.

OP is just out to feed his ego.

Everyone wants money from him. Ok.

Ehhmmmm....that's all.

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Re: Help! Friends, Family & Former School Mates From Nig Are Killing Me With Demands by lolu20: 12:12am On Jul 09, 2015
@op,u can lie o.ike e o yi gan o.

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Re: Help! Friends, Family & Former School Mates From Nig Are Killing Me With Demands by InvertedHammer: 12:13am On Jul 09, 2015
OREMUSSANCTUS:
Carry cocaine to indonesia, if u want to end it once and for all.
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Good one.

How are NLers going to help him?

Na JJC dry worry OP.

People who talk the way he wrote are usually the ones that just got into US and living in fantasy land. He is probably sharing a room somewhere with a room mate.
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Re: Help! Friends, Family & Former School Mates From Nig Are Killing Me With Demands by Gurgle(f): 12:14am On Jul 09, 2015
astrodome:
Help!! Friends, family, former school mates and others are killing me with financial demands. Everyday I receive facebook (fb) messages, phone calls, email messages and messages from other communication avenues from family members, friends close and distant, school mates I have not seen in 20 years but with whom I reconnected on fb, and even random fb friends (meaning I do not know them personally but somehow we managed to be friends on fb). They all have the same story: please send me money, anything.

Each month I send nearly 3k to Nigeria and they keep asking for more.

Do they think I pluck money from trees in America?
Do they think every Nigerian in America is doing drugs or credit card fraud to make money?
Are they thinking that since Akin or Emeka made it in America (in many cases by selling drugs and doing credit card fraud), I should also make it and therefore be able to satisfy their unending demands?

How do I explain to them that I have bills (auto, mortgage, water-sewer, electricity, gas, phone, credit card) to pay. And then I have to run my family (of 4) and fuel 2 cars, and on top of that, I have to save also for the rainy day - for when kids get to college.

I am able to resist the random fb friends because I do not have any personal connection with them, but how do I scare the ones I know off without sounding rude and unhelping? I know that when you stop giving, you become an enemy.
Help! Before a fellow nairalander runs amock on the streets of America because of pressure from Nigeria cry cry cry cry

Just for disclosure: I am well-heeled in the US mid-upper middle class, earning a 6-figure pay, holds a PhD, and involved in R4D activities. But I live in a US city (name withheld) where mortgage payment alone takes 25% of my monthly income. So you can imagine that after paying all bills, I do not have tons of money left over to give out on frequent basis.

Please advise on how to handle this, Naija style grin grin. Thanks

Dear you don't need to explain anything to them. If its like that they should come to America and break their backs working as you are

I don't need to advise you since everybody has taken the words from my mouth but if you carry on in this behavior I PROMISE YOU

when you return home for good after sending shedloads of money home and without making any kind of useful provision for yourself, the same people will start to murmur behind your back

"after how many years in US he hasnt got anything to show for it"

"after how many years he couldn't even build a one bedroom talk less of a house"

"look at that useless man, he would have been better off staying Nigeria self"

I honestly promise you that.

Nobody says you shouldn't help others but please, help yourself first o?

Because the way they will treat you when you get there will be such a shock

and you will already have retired by then, you will die a broken man

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Re: Help! Friends, Family & Former School Mates From Nig Are Killing Me With Demands by senator2b: 12:14am On Jul 09, 2015
I dont see any reason why u all are advising this guy cos every advise you offer him he has a reason to counter it, meaning he is not willing to take the advises been rendered to him. so my advise is that keep on giving every dick & harry i know one day monkey go market e no go return.

just try and call those who benefited from your magnanimity ask them for little of financial help just cook up something u need it for and see their reactions, then u will know who they really are. i'm not stopping u from helping pple but there shld be a limit to it.

remember Jesus in HIS days could not satisfy everybody. better find some one u can trust and make investment for naija ooooooooo so that when d journey gets tougher there is something to fall back at home. dont make ur friends live like a king and u dying like a pauper.
Re: Help! Friends, Family & Former School Mates From Nig Are Killing Me With Demands by Rexnegro(m): 12:15am On Jul 09, 2015
astrodome:
Help!! Friends, family, former school mates and others are killing me with financial demands. Everyday I receive facebook (fb) messages, phone calls, email messages and messages from other communication avenues from family members, friends close and distant, school mates I have not seen in 20 years but with whom I reconnected on fb, and even random fb friends (meaning I do not know them personally but somehow we managed to be friends on fb). They all have the same story: please send me money, anything.

Each month I send nearly 3k to Nigeria and they keep asking for more.

Do they think I pluck money from trees in America?
Do they think every Nigerian in America is doing drugs or credit card fraud to make money?
Are they thinking that since Akin or Emeka made it in America (in many cases by selling drugs and doing credit card fraud), I should also make it and therefore be able to satisfy their unending demands?

How do I explain to them that I have bills (auto, mortgage, water-sewer, electricity, gas, phone, credit card) to pay. And then I have to run my family (of 4) and fuel 2 cars, and on top of that, I have to save also for the rainy day - for when kids get to college.

I am able to resist the random fb friends because I do not have any personal connection with them, but how do I scare the ones I know off without sounding rude and unhelping? I know that when you stop giving, you become an enemy.
Help! Before a fellow nairalander runs amock on the streets of America because of pressure from Nigeria cry cry cry cry

Just for disclosure: I am well-heeled in the US mid-upper middle class, earning a 6-figure pay, holds a PhD, and involved in R4D activities. But I live in a US city (name withheld) where mortgage payment alone takes 25% of my monthly income. So you can imagine that after paying all bills, I do not have tons of money left over to give out on frequent basis.

Please advise on how to handle this, Naija style grin grin. Thanks
I have read comments and can't help but to laugh out my sexy six pac belle...anyway sir I'll like to say u should do it like dis...how do I mean ? well when next u send money make it known that they should not ask or expect anytin until so so months or year depending on which one suit u, simply put give them a time frame or duration,that u too need money to run ur life and ur money....as in when saying capitalize it infact repeat it again and again. Aside that start showing them that its not what they think just because u re in US don't mean u pluck money on trees....my words my mind hope they help. Goodluck.
Re: Help! Friends, Family & Former School Mates From Nig Are Killing Me With Demands by astrodome: 12:19am On Jul 09, 2015
Dollyak:

Homeowners in 24 of the 30 largest metros covered by Zillow were paying more for homes in the fourth quarter of 2012 relative to their region’s median income than they were from 1985 through 1999. Metros with the largest difference between their pre-bubble and fourth quarter 2012 price-to-income ratios included San Jose (52.1 percent more), Los Angeles (48.8 percent more), Portland, OR, (45.4 percent more), San Diego (44.6 percent more) and Denver (40.8 percent more).

http://www.forbes.com/sites/zillow/2013/04/16/high-home-price-to-income-ratios-hiding-behind-low-mortgage-rates/

Where I live is a nice suburb and not the big metros in your list. The 25% is what my bank and I agreed upon. So not sure what you are driving at
Re: Help! Friends, Family & Former School Mates From Nig Are Killing Me With Demands by Gurgle(f): 12:22am On Jul 09, 2015
M4gunners:
Op you are not alone. I'm also in the same situation you are. I have blocked my fb,next online will be whatapp. They have no heart i tell you.

just don't give anybody your number. don't need to come off communications completely
Re: Help! Friends, Family & Former School Mates From Nig Are Killing Me With Demands by BaddieKay(f): 12:23am On Jul 09, 2015
seedgreen:
Following
Re: Help! Friends, Family & Former School Mates From Nig Are Killing Me With Demands by okonri(m): 12:28am On Jul 09, 2015
With your six figure income, you still have credit card debt to pay and an apparently unending mortgage payments. What happened? Btw no pun intended.


astrodome:
Help!! Friends, family, former school mates and others are killing me with financial demands. Everyday I receive facebook (fb) messages, phone calls, email messages and messages from other communication avenues from family members, friends close and distant, school mates I have not seen in 20 years but with whom I reconnected on fb, and even random fb friends (meaning I do not know them personally but somehow we managed to be friends on fb). They all have the same story: please send me money, anything.

Each month I send nearly 3k to Nigeria and they keep asking for more.

Do they think I pluck money from trees in America?
Do they think every Nigerian in America is doing drugs or credit card fraud to make money?
Are they thinking that since Akin or Emeka made it in America (in many cases by selling drugs and doing credit card fraud), I should also make it and therefore be able to satisfy their unending demands?

How do I explain to them that I have bills (auto, mortgage, water-sewer, electricity, gas, phone, credit card) to pay. And then I have to run my family (of 4) and fuel 2 cars, and on top of that, I have to save also for the rainy day - for when kids get to college.

I am able to resist the random fb friends because I do not have any personal connection with them, but how do I scare the ones I know off without sounding rude and unhelping? I know that when you stop giving, you become an enemy.
Help! Before a fellow nairalander runs amock on the streets of America because of pressure from Nigeria cry cry cry cry

Just for disclosure: I am well-heeled in the US mid-upper middle class, earning a 6-figure pay, holds a PhD, and involved in R4D activities. But I live in a US city (name withheld) where mortgage payment alone takes 25% of my monthly income. So you can imagine that after paying all bills, I do not have tons of money left over to give out on frequent basis.

Please advise on how to handle this, Naija style grin grin. Thanks
Re: Help! Friends, Family & Former School Mates From Nig Are Killing Me With Demands by Nobody: 12:29am On Jul 09, 2015
astrodome:


Of course, I say no more often than I say yes. But the ''yes'' is still huge.

Simply tell them you have a project taking much fom you at the moment (mortgage), you wish you could help but unfortunately you cant (dont say maybe next month, never promise)..
And when pple who ask you all the time starts a conversatiin, make it sumple. Dont ask for how they are coping, just end the convo quicck with it was so nice hearing from you and thnks SO much for checking on me.... Remin polite yet sharp (some nigerians have little hearts nd dont mind draining you till your last cent).
Re: Help! Friends, Family & Former School Mates From Nig Are Killing Me With Demands by Nobody: 12:30am On Jul 09, 2015
Op, you are a learner grin grin....Disconnect all your social networks and create new ones and most importantly, change your number or put it on perpetual voicemail for calls from Nigeria grin grin..I have known peace in my life again since i followed this simple steps..Once you are abroad everyone thinks you pluck money from the trees.

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Re: Help! Friends, Family & Former School Mates From Nig Are Killing Me With Demands by astrodome: 12:34am On Jul 09, 2015
okonri:
With your six figure income, you still have credit card debt to pay and an apparently unending mortgage payments. What happened? Btw no pun intended.



Duh! Credit card is used to maintain a credit history. You pay back as soon as used. Even Obama has a credit card. You apparently don't know jack about this

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Re: Help! Friends, Family & Former School Mates From Nig Are Killing Me With Demands by Goldenboy007(m): 12:35am On Jul 09, 2015
Dollyak:
Op, with your ridiculously low mortgage to salary ratio, 3k a month isn't that bad. I am sure you live in texas, Washington (North West) or some sh!!t, because there are not many states/career(Excluding medical fields) that pays decent six figures with such a ridiculously low rental ratio, unless you are a world class specialist.
Anyways, you just need to learn to say no. If you are going to give, you need to make sure it's going towards a self sustaining programme for your family and friends. The amount my dad have given to his ridiculously large nuclear family is definitely into seven figures. Yet, nothing to show for it undecided. Therefore, be strict and give wisely.

Thanks for this analysis madam, I doubt if this dude is telling the truth! 25% of salary as Mortgage ? That's ridiculously low... No bank will collect that from you if you are earning a 6 figure as you claimed ! And you pay 3k every month for charity? National average salary of a research scientist is 71k, for an associate professor is 91k.....if we divided this by 12, and then remove approximately 22% as tax...dude... Except you are paying mortgage for a Subway station train stop. Then in your in some of your previous post you talked about Utah... Oya begin explain yourself before I hand you over to Nairaland Wolves wey go tear you to pieces !

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Re: Help! Friends, Family & Former School Mates From Nig Are Killing Me With Demands by Fredzy7(m): 12:40am On Jul 09, 2015
astrodome:
Each month I send nearly 3k to Nigeria and they keep asking for more.

Do they think I pluck money from trees in America?
Do they think every Nigerian in America is doing drugs or credit card fraud to make money?
Are they thinking that since Akin or Emeka made it in America (in many cases by selling drugs and doing credit card fraud), I should also make it and therefore be able to satisfy their unending demands?


Just for disclosure: I am well-heeled in the US mid-upper middle class, earning a 6-figure pay, holds a PhD, and involved in R4D activities. But I live in a US city (name withheld) where mortgage payment alone takes 25% of my monthly income. So you can imagine that after paying all bills, I do not have tons of money left over to give out on frequent basis.

Please advise on how to handle this, Naija style grin grin. Thanks
Haba bro Jones you con dey disclose our matter for nairaland, you earn 600 and you only give 3, u are lucky you are not giving 100 or more, but all the same tell them business Is down and they will think the DEA busted your warehouse or tell them you will give them some powder to take to Indonesia, let their brains do the thinking (I must add LOL before I am flagged)
Re: Help! Friends, Family & Former School Mates From Nig Are Killing Me With Demands by Dollyak(f): 12:40am On Jul 09, 2015
astrodome:


Where I live is a nice suburb and not the big metros in your list. The 25% is what my bank and I agreed upon. So not sure what you are driving at
Fair enough smiley
Re: Help! Friends, Family & Former School Mates From Nig Are Killing Me With Demands by Goldenboy007(m): 12:42am On Jul 09, 2015
astrodome:


Where I live is a nice suburb and not the big metros in your list. The 25% is what my bank and I agreed upon. So not sure what you are driving at

Bros your story get k-leg o, anybody living in US will have a problem believing your story. Talk true, you have added salt and pepper ?

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Re: Help! Friends, Family & Former School Mates From Nig Are Killing Me With Demands by mickey45: 12:46am On Jul 09, 2015
Goldenboy007:
Op or bros or Mister...my people say ; it is not every cloth one spreads outside. I give this one this, I gave that one that , this one begs from me, that one botrrows from me. You earn 6 figures, you did this, you did that. I smell exaggeration here, people that truly give don't make noise but empty barrel makes the loudest noise. Ahan na only you dey US? Bros cool down and humble yourself so that God will lift you up! Probably you are a graduate assistant pursuing your PhD because I have met many associate professors in US and they are not this lousy. 6 figures lekwa Sabi yourself no be abuse o!

I'm looking at you use "LOUSY" and wondering if the person who said "we complain in others what actually is in us" wasn't right after-all.

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Re: Help! Friends, Family & Former School Mates From Nig Are Killing Me With Demands by astrodome: 12:47am On Jul 09, 2015
Goldenboy007:


Bros your story get k-leg o, anybody living in US will have a problem believing your story. Talk true, you have added salt and pepper ?

I am not competing with you or anyone. Believe what you want, who cares?
Re: Help! Friends, Family & Former School Mates From Nig Are Killing Me With Demands by astrodome: 12:49am On Jul 09, 2015
Dollyak:

Fair enough smiley

I have several colleagues at similar pay range and their houses are similar as mine with similar mortgage rates.

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Re: Help! Friends, Family & Former School Mates From Nig Are Killing Me With Demands by Truckpusher(m): 12:58am On Jul 09, 2015
smh
Re: Help! Friends, Family & Former School Mates From Nig Are Killing Me With Demands by astrodome: 1:00am On Jul 09, 2015
Fredzy7:

Haba bro Jones you con dey disclose our matter for nairaland, you earn 600 and you only give 3, u are lucky you are not giving 100 or more, but all the same tell them business Is down and they will think the DEA busted your warehouse or tell them you will give them some powder to take to Indonesia, let their brains do the thinking (I must add LOL before I am flagged)
Lol 6 figure is not equal to 600K ((I wish). Now I see where all the arguments from some respondents are coming from. 6 figure = 100,000 up to 999,000.
I am somewhere comfortable in that huge range. Most Americans are on 5 figure pay: 10,000 to 99, 999
Re: Help! Friends, Family & Former School Mates From Nig Are Killing Me With Demands by Goldenboy007(m): 1:01am On Jul 09, 2015
astrodome:


I am not competing with you or anyone. Believe what you want, who cares?

Its not competition bros, but don't let people living in US look silly. These stories are needless ! Give info on need-to-know basis ! You may live in the US but do not paint a larger-than-life scenerio! ...and lastly...please I am not replying that your other moniker.
Re: Help! Friends, Family & Former School Mates From Nig Are Killing Me With Demands by Nobody: 1:01am On Jul 09, 2015
@ OP

Create another accounts you can use to communicate with your friends in America and stop signing into the old ones. Tell them to get something doing!
Re: Help! Friends, Family & Former School Mates From Nig Are Killing Me With Demands by astrodome: 1:02am On Jul 09, 2015
Goldenboy007:


Its not competition bros, but don't let people living in US look silly. These stories are needless ! Give info on need-to-know basis ! You may live in the US but do not paint a larger-than-life scenerio! ...and lastly...please I am not replying that your other moniker.

What is larger than life?
Re: Help! Friends, Family & Former School Mates From Nig Are Killing Me With Demands by Nobody: 1:09am On Jul 09, 2015
mr.astrodome , the best service you can offer God is service to humanity. stop complaining. .m keep giving out. Your final breakthrough is around.
Re: Help! Friends, Family & Former School Mates From Nig Are Killing Me With Demands by Nyceguy92: 1:10am On Jul 09, 2015
[quote author=astrodome post=35643137]

Hello bros,

I understand what you are passing through because I happen to have relatives who reside in the U.S.

Unless one is that close or told, one wouldn't know that life in the U.S is very stressful and difficult.

Most of these calls are for stuffs like laptops, phones and such fancy stuff.

Others are for more serious problems like imminent ejection by land, school fees or failing business.

The extended family system which we practice is a noble thing and I know that many would like to help both family and friends if they can.

The real drain on the pocket are the numerous bills you mentioned. Plus you might need to build or finish your house at home, etc.

However, with your six-figure, income, you should be able to dole out a little to those most in need as follows:

Filter the requests per those that can wait vs urgent needs,

What is the amount involved; if it is huge, you can send part and let them get the remainder.

If your old school mate makes income and merely wants stuff made in America, you may get him perfume, shoes or other fashion item at your convenience.

Alternatively, you can check in a bag as extra load at $200 via somebody travelling home.

Let your family members and friends know that you have other responsibilities.

It is difficult to please everybody.

I wish you luck.
Re: Help! Friends, Family & Former School Mates From Nig Are Killing Me With Demands by aktunde(m): 1:16am On Jul 09, 2015
@OP
I think you have provided too much information just to ask a simple question and that has broken the credibility of your story. Now I don't know if you really need help or if you just want to show off. Why tell us about your degree, cars, even salary just to prove a point? Are all these necessary? I'm in same shoes, I get such demands and I deal with it without being unnecessarily lousy. Common man!

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Re: Help! Friends, Family & Former School Mates From Nig Are Killing Me With Demands by astrodome: 1:16am On Jul 09, 2015
[quote author=Nyceguy92 post=35648981][/quote]

Thanks. One of the best responses here. My former professor once told me that one of the reasons many Africans are poor is because of our family social system. What do you think?
Re: Help! Friends, Family & Former School Mates From Nig Are Killing Me With Demands by goodgate: 1:17am On Jul 09, 2015
Goldenboy007:


Bros your story get k-leg o, anybody living in US will have a problem believing your story. Talk true, you have added salt and pepper ?
Believing the OP seems a huge task for me,he sound like an attention seeking MOFO in AJcity.

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