oyewole123:
Mr Iguma Johnny ( alias egbosajohnny) is not only fraudulent but an incompetent & dishonest builder operating here on NL
Johnny I know you have threatened me to stay quiet with your email today @ 1508hr but I only fear God and I will let all hard working NLer be aware before they get scammed

Remember that you are still wanted at the police station where they arrested you few weeks ago for stealing planks from my neighbour and more of your threats will be welcome and directed to the right channel

I have employed good number of NL builders and masons ( segcymore, hsl broker, Trumpcoat etc) without any complaint after completion of my houses, up till date I serve as a referee to them and I have given recommendations to potential clients of theirs. Please the named NLer can attest/dispute openly to this if they wish

I employed Johnny in March 2015 to construct a storey building of 3- bedroom flat carcass only ( thread on NL) after seeing his numerous thread soliciting for job on NL but turned up to be my biggest regret. I would have used builders am used to but they were busy at that time and my project was out of their base. I was skeptical employing his service initially but after several telephone calls pestering and begging me that he needed the job to survive because of his immediate family struggling issues etc . Am human I decided to give him a chance but with the conditions that my manager will see to quality control and everyday monitoring too. Important building stages will be double supervised. He accepted

This morning I was told Johnny absconded from the city/site yesterday leaving paid job undone; not paying his workers after collecting money from me via bank transfer; not paying for some building materials after collecting money from me and abandoning the collapsed roof concrete parapet he built ( second collapsed building part within 2 months)

I do not want to bore u with details, I have moved on but want to pass on two messages:
1) Warn NLer about who to entrust with their hard earned fund
2) let Johnny know that he is wanted for all the fraud he committed which include:
- owing the electrician 50k
- owing the POP man 151k
- owing the plumber 20k
And all materials u collected money for but took on credit, the sellers and mason sweat will haunt you down. YOU CAN RUN BUT CANNOT HIDE. If you claim innocent, report to the police station where you were arrested before and clean your name, remember to tell all who you are owing to be present so do not sneak in and out . If you claimed I owe you for FINISHED job, prove it then and I promise to pay back in three fold

Lastly, thank God I employed another competent builder few weeks ago ( alongside Johnny) when his incompetency was getting worse (my building part collapsed twice under his supervision in a space of 2 months) but did not chase him away because of his serious family issues and plenty of apologies . He threatened to harm or kill my new builder and his men if they continued on my site, Johnny was reported to the police , the case is still on going ( HSLbroker on NL can attest to it)

All the atrocities/things Johnny might have done to my building is fully covered by the blood of Jesus. What God has started, NO HUMAN CAN STOP IT

brag3:
Wow, I am so Sorry to hear this.
and I thought Brabus was bad. This takes some beating.
The Grace of God will get you through this.
No one is greater than God.
We will all pay for our sins when the time comes.

mufutau55:
Not another one.... I am suspecting the Ondo Project... please tell me it's not true.

Hajji M.

oyewole123:

You are right sir. It is the Ondo project but it will come out to be my best project very soon in Jesus name

kopell:
NA WA OOOOO, people will not believe how many case like this are underground. To bad.

EgunMogaji:

True and is most unfortunate.
My respect is dwindling fast for artisans on here.
The back door resolution has actually done more hard than good. How do I know that even the best in the house is not a fraudster that has had issue resolved off of the forum?
Sad really.

segcymoor:

d best in the house? Oya na oga spyder cone on board o. Awon egun nwa o

gabbytabby:
Johnny casted a front door cantilever for a nairalander about 2 years ago and took off the support within 2weeks and the cantilever collapsed and at that point I realised that he does not know what he is doing hence my hmmm to some of his clamourings for contract. He walked away from this without completing work he had been paid for.

I did pray that he has learnt a bit more when I saw the ondo project.

You have an opportunity to look back on work done by a nairalander contractor avail yourself of this opportunity. If he has a habit of collecting money and not doing the work chances are he will do the same on yours, send private emailed and get some references.

Trust me it is a jungle out there, you cannot even trust family and collusion is the order of the day. Everyone is an engineer.

EgunMogaji:


This mornings dramas just made me even more steadfast that on my build I will do only what I can on my 2 or 3 weeks vacation and lock my gate when I leave. And the builder and I will have a contract signed in front of a lawyer.

But even with all of that I am sure they have "loopholes" already formed.

I heard from another member a year ago about how the artisan came with his wife and children and elder brothers to beg him not to involve police when shyte hit the fan.

PS: Mr. Egbosa, you were on my short list of builders I was going to invite for a bid next month. I am sure you'll understand my reconsideration of that decision.

EgunMogaji:


This mornings dramas just made me even more steadfast that on my build I will do only what I can on my 2 or 3 weeks vacation and lock my gate when I leave. And the builder and I will have a contract signed in front of a lawyer.

But even with all of that I am sure they have "loopholes" already formed.

I heard from another member a year ago about how the artisan came with his wife and children and elder brothers to beg him not to involve police when shyte hit the fan.

PS: Mr. Egbosa, you were on my short list of builders I was going to invite for a bid next month. I am sure you'll understand my reconsideration of that decision.

EgunMogaji:


This mornings dramas just made me even more steadfast that on my build I will do only what I can on my 2 or 3 weeks vacation and lock my gate when I leave. And the builder and I will have a contract signed in front of a lawyer.

But even with all of that I am sure they have "loopholes" already formed.

I heard from another member a year ago about how the artisan came with his wife and children and elder brothers to beg him not to involve police when shyte hit the fan.

PS: Mr. Egbosa, you were on my short list of builders I was going to invite for a bid next month. I am sure you'll understand my reconsideration of that decision.

eghosajohnny:
Wao what a story well if not the call from segzy14 I wouldn't have known this was on,well they say clear conscience fears no acquisation.

Well I have but a little story about all this cos I can't say much and I have never seen people who claim they have travelled wide will be lying

Now to start with that project I started from march till now when he was paying money to my account I worked there till friday before I left and pls I want you to read this message carefully.

From that time till now he has a manager who supplies materials how did I buy materail and not pay,the only work I did was the BQ which was given directly to me which I was buying my cement little by little and I never owed the seller cos the seller was a small secetary girl.


We did casting of the decking and as we started the casting I discovered with the ratio that the sand is not good to follow it up like that cos when I complained the manager came to site and was shouting what is not good hear so to avoid trouble not to say because I wasn't given the materials to buy I decided to add much cement and along side when the cement wasn't going to be enough I called DR and told him he said he will remove it from my money and sand too,and he did on 3stage installment.


Now on the side he claimed that collapsed happened on the 23rd of may and before then we had built the first floor to lintels level and I said we can take some planks from the decking from some edges to board it the carpenters met with the manager that its not dried not knowing it was because they had job to do that was why they said so and the manager told DR and he said I should leave it for another 2weeks I said ok and the carpenter boarded the lintels and it was late that day that they couldnt join it with the pillars but thefollowing day unfortunately heavy rain fell that morning with wind and it was that place that fell even the kitchen wall that has single block wall to the lintel did not fall and he even said it was the wind and I said yes that it was the lintel plank the wind blew that droped the wall,this man said I will pay and I didn't argue just to make him relax and I bought the blocks and cement because my money was with him and I set the wall up.

The second one if you check the design you will see that the front verandah has no pillar on one end same too at the kitchen when we got there I had to put the pillar at the front since the carpenter had to do that place that day before telling him and I told him about the kitchen too that I will do the same but DR disagreed that atleast he wanted that place like that,that place took me time to tell the carpenter to board I had to go and buy 1inch rod to beam that parapet but the day it happened I told him and he denied all this was happening as a result of the fact that my money was with him and he sent 40k of my money to start the reconstruction of the place I had to plead before he added 20k,

About the planks I'm accused of stealing from the opposite site (hmm)I quoted 50planks and as we were boarding the ground floor lintel those people were friends with us even some of their workers were the ones I ised in building the house and we share things in common we still give them water and for that we needed some planks just to complete a litlle part remaining on the lintel I had to meet the mason there and told him and he agreed and we used the wood then a man came who I never new was the engineer of the site said I collected his planks I said yes that I wll return it as soon as the decking was cure and due to pull but the whole became fast and didn't remember to return that time and when the man came I promised him tjat as soon as we are through with the parapet we will give him any planks he want he agreed and the day we pulled it I called and told him it was ready but he didn't come and came after 5days and without calling me went to the station to bring police and before I came there one of my worker was rude and the police were annoyed and said they will take him to station so we went and I relesed the boy all this was just to push my so called clients work and I'm being accused of stealing even by him,well its ok.

Now my fellow builders here on nairaland I want to know if this is possible to do to ourselves me and doctor agreed on the plastering work on the same 23rd of may and later the same morning after concluding the palster he now asked if I will supervise all other work as he will need some and I said ok and I told him 218k that the 18k will be for the house rent and 200k for the job and when the roof was done by hlbroker since I gave him my quote and without concluding he went to meet hlbroker and I didn't know what they agreed but as the carpenter worked I asked them the height and they told me 6mtr and I related it to my client and he said they agreed 7mtr as he called hlbroker the hlbroker called me and was shouting at me then when they roofed and left DR called and we discussed on the BQ and security plasyering and I told to add what he will add to the money on the main building that I want to render the wall with 2inch and some places that need to be filled too cos that how I do me plastering and the wall will be brushed with water cement so al the wall will be showing cement wall he added the money and the follow day his manager brought frame I hanged it and pay the labours cos I added all to the plastering work and 2days later he sent me money so I can get bamboo and they can start scaffolding,immediately I called for the bamboo and they promised to bring it the following day and the womand sent her acc number and I paid a mason was with me the same time I gave him some money so he can come and be mantaining the hole on the wall and scraping the floor,after this few things a line called me though I know the line thinking it was dR I picked it was his wife that DR said I shouldn't ise the money,I asked why she said she didn't know I said ok and was wondering bit I didnt worry much,in the evening DR called that a neighbour called him that the rod I used for the BQ is 10mm and the blocks I used aren't strong I said sir this rod I mounted it and sent to you is it now that the BQ is roofed that the rod is 10mm why didn't the person say when it was under construction the next thing was its hlbroker who is coming to render the wall I said ha DR just like that he said I will render the fence and I told him that some of that money has being used he started shouting,he removed the money from my money for fence I didn't say anything cos all I wanted to deliver that building later he called and talked of the supervision money and I told him that supervising this guys will be hard and he said they have theor oga I backed away the following money I was annoyed and said to myself a fellow nairalander doing this I'm surprised I had to text hlbroker pls don't come and he called and I said can I do you this thing as u came to roof and know that I'm on ground you would have left the site for me he dropped and told DR that I was threatning him DR called that he had called police insulting me and I told him this is what I said he said and so left me and was insulting my family I nearly returned it back to him but I controlled myself that was how hlbroker came for the plastering as they started the plastering I saw it was not what DR told me I tried to talk to him but the mason was rude and in the process someone called me to just be looking at them since they have their oga I followed untill this thursday when surprisingly I saw the mason rendering the wall I was surprised bit disnt say any and snapped it and send to DR and he asked who asked them to render the fence I replied I thought it was you he didn't reply on time then he later replied I asked them to continue cos its cheap and the job is good forgetong that even when we agreed I added 6pilar precast to it that I will with the plastering.

That of the plumbering DR sent me a mail stating that if the plumber accept 150k for the piping to soakaway and borehore and that only fitting is what he will pay for again and if he agrees he can start on monday that was then I showed the plumber direct the mail he said ok and went chisling the wall and in the evening DR called and I told him he said 200k thinking he will price it cos that's what he does but he didn't that because the plumber is their family plumber I gave him all money and added 8k to it to make 158' and all of a sudden the plumber started acting funny delaying the job and one day said the BQ wasn't added and I told him that I have 4witness that was there as I gave you the phone and I left it with you and he droped it before I came back,DR was worried and after much insisted on their numbers I gave but told the plumber to express him self. But to just tell DR that its 200k he agreed and DR asked him and he said me and him agreed on 200k that I have only gave him 140k then I called the plumber to rememer that this money was tranfered he said he wrote it and doctor said he will pay him the 200k complete and I told him it not my concern because if I hadn't add that money and just told hom the 150k would you paid this extra 50k.

So I just thought what will I be doing when the fence work is done my supervision he reduced from 218k to 150k and he still removed 40k from it for me to use it to construct what me and him concluded and the money wasn't enough and he gave me another. 20k on friday with 36k of pop so I collected that 56k and left cos as I write now the front fence that is remaining to cast the gate my money with DR is 49k,the parapet is remaining 28k,from my supervision from the calculation I still have 30k from cos he has given me 60k which I still used for his work.

This is all that happened and DR if you are man of honour read this post and if I lie send all your mail cos that mostly our means of communication,I respect client a lot at a point I can displease myself for a client but some of them take it for granted I don't quit job easily but this push was too much.

When we started and it was just the manager ,me and him it was all smooth,I started to dislike the manager when he kind of blackmailed unknowing to me when materials remain I said I will keep it to surprise my client but he came that he had stress and when money came for the next stage he pleaded we take the some money so we can use the material I had on ground that was the survey he did for DR that there was no red copy and they said he should bring 40k and he doesn't have and I said since its the same DRs work take 45k 5k for transport and he gave me 15k that was my mistake with his manager and since then money will meet him he will take say his car has fault DR doesn't give him money,the last one was when DR sent money for the parapet before I new he remove 54k and was telling me nonsence that was why his parapet was delayed cos i was annoyed but when the work was delaying the BQ project I had to use my money to finish the casting it was later he then told me that the cement he bought he didn't pay for 14bags and I said who will pay the one I bought to finish the job.


This is all I have to say and we builders here most of us know this and if doctor says he is not owing this amount there are mail I do send to acknowledge payment so there are many proof,I wanted to let it go but he just felt the best thing is for him to spoil my name and to think of it is it bad to tell a client that it was in his project that your wife had a baby which is now mockery and the only time DR called was 2days before I went to site at about 8:20pm on thursday march 14 since we started communicating it was all on mail that he is now saying I was calling him begging for the job,we builder here are to make internet forum.
We are not beggers

eghosajohnny:


To start with I hope this post isn't for me that I came with family to beg cos I just don't understand the post well pls don't be offended. Cos many things happen when something happen.


I can never put my family in my business its me and me alone and no matter what I keep my name cos good name they say is better than riches.from my experience with DR he has being an ingrate and inhuman imagine when I told my client that I had an accident as I was driving when I travelled,right on the phone there was no sorry or how is your leg,I came the leg was paining me I told him in the evening but because I couldn't go to site to snap his gate on a sunday for that matter DR wrote a termination letter not even to call to know,it was his manager who saw it and I told him to help me tell DR before he wrote another agreement say its my excuse.

How I wish someone from ondo is here to visit fagun you will hear what they are saying about he did but I just said he is the owner of the house let him do what he pleases

I can't say much but I believe what is yours is yours even if he tries all this it doesn't stop me to reach where I will get to this year.

All other job I did since I started his work I couldn't post them cos of respect,anytime I send update I send all areas so if he see anything we can correct on time .

gabbytabby:
Johnny casted a front door cantilever for a nairalander about 2 years ago and took off the support within 2weeks and the cantilever collapsed and at that point I realised that he does not know what he is doing hence my hmmm to some of his clamourings for contract. He walked away from this without completing work he had been paid for.

I did pray that he has learnt a bit more when I saw the ondo project.

You have an opportunity to look back on work done by a nairalander contractor avail yourself of this opportunity. If he has a habit of collecting money and not doing the work chances are he will do the same on yours, send private emailed and get some references.

Trust me it is a jungle out there, you cannot even trust family and collusion is the order of the day. Everyone is an engineer.

csiworksnig:
So who is telling the truth.... U are both acting like girls. This could be settled peacefully, No one knows tomorrow. The eng is nt a fraud, if he was he would have left or ran away with d first money u gave him. And pls Mr eng, never abandon a clients project, u just have to face d worst and finish it, Please do try settle this

segcymoor:

d best in the house? Oya na oga spyder cone on board o. Awon egun nwa o

mufutau55:
Not another one.... I am suspecting the Ondo Project... please tell me it's not true.

Hajji M.