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|SCAM ALERT!!!! Beware Of A Builder Called Egbosajohnny by oyewole123: 7:44pm On Aug 08, 2015|
Mr Iguma Johnny ( alias egbosajohnny) is not only fraudulent but an incompetent & dishonest builder operating here on NL
Johnny I know you have threatened me to stay quiet with your email today @ 1508hr but I only fear God and I will let all hard working NLer be aware before they get scammed
Remember that you are still wanted at the police station where they arrested you few weeks ago for stealing planks from my neighbour and more of your threats will be welcome and directed to the right channel
I have employed good number of NL builders and masons ( segcymore, hsl broker, Trumpcoat etc) without any complaint after completion of my houses, up till date I serve as a referee to them and I have given recommendations to potential clients of theirs. Please the named NLer can attest/dispute openly to this if they wish
I employed Johnny in March 2015 to construct a storey building of 3- bedroom flat carcass only ( thread on NL) after seeing his numerous thread soliciting for job on NL but turned up to be my biggest regret. I would have used builders am used to but they were busy at that time and my project was out of their base. I was skeptical employing his service initially but after several telephone calls pestering and begging me that he needed the job to survive because of his immediate family struggling issues etc . Am human I decided to give him a chance but with the conditions that my manager will see to quality control and everyday monitoring too. Important building stages will be double supervised. He accepted
This morning I was told Johnny absconded from the city/site yesterday leaving paid jobs undone; not paying his workers after collecting money from me via bank transfer; not paying for some building materials after collecting money from me and abandoning the collapsed roof concrete parapet he built ( second collapsed building part within 2 months)
I do not want to bore u with details, I have moved on but want to pass on two messages:
1) Warn NLer about who to entrust with their hard earned fund
2) let Johnny know that he is wanted for all the fraud he committed which include:
- owing the electrician 50k
- owing the POP man 151k
- owing the plumber 20k
And all materials u collected money for but took on credit, the sellers and mason sweat will haunt you down. YOU CAN RUN BUT CANNOT HIDE. If you claim innocent, report to the police station where you were arrested before and clear your name, remember to tell all who you are owing to be present so do not sneak in and out . If you claimed I owe you for FINISHED job, prove it then and I promise to pay back in three fold
Lastly, thank God I employed another competent builder few weeks ago ( alongside Johnny) when his incompetency was getting worse (my building part collapsed twice under his supervision in a space of 2 months) but did not chase him away because of his serious family issues and plenty of apologies . He threatened to harm or kill my new builder and his men if they continued on my site, Johnny was reported to the police , the case is still on going ( HSLbroker on NL can attest to it)
All the atrocities/things Johnny might have done to my building is fully covered by the blood of Jesus. What God has started, NO HUMAN CAN STOP IT
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|Re: SCAM ALERT!!!! Beware Of A Builder Called Egbosajohnny by ladyF(f): 7:47pm On Aug 08, 2015|
|Re: SCAM ALERT!!!! Beware Of A Builder Called Egbosajohnny by mufutau55(m): 8:31pm On Aug 08, 2015|
Not another one.... I am suspecting the Ondo Project... please tell me it's not true.
|Re: SCAM ALERT!!!! Beware Of A Builder Called Egbosajohnny by MANGAM(m): 9:00pm On Aug 08, 2015|
|Re: SCAM ALERT!!!! Beware Of A Builder Called Egbosajohnny by segcymoor(m): 9:01pm On Aug 08, 2015|
Take heart bros. Quite unfortunately!
|Re: SCAM ALERT!!!! Beware Of A Builder Called Egbosajohnny by brag3: 9:24pm On Aug 08, 2015|
Wow, I am so Sorry to hear this.
and I thought Brabus was bad. This takes some beating.
The Grace of God will get you through this.
No one is greater than God.
We will all pay for our sins when the time comes.
|Re: SCAM ALERT!!!! Beware Of A Builder Called Egbosajohnny by segzy14(m): 9:28pm On Aug 08, 2015|
Sorry sir,u remember me?
The cheapest might not be the best.
Dr. Take heart.
|Re: SCAM ALERT!!!! Beware Of A Builder Called Egbosajohnny by beedam(f): 9:29pm On Aug 08, 2015|
Not tonight again! But this one na oga o
He is the thief himself. The sweat of all you mentioned about will surely hunt him IJN.
His soul will not rest till he settle them.
|Re: SCAM ALERT!!!! Beware Of A Builder Called Egbosajohnny by beedam(f): 9:31pm On Aug 08, 2015|
He is the senior. Too bad! But why nah?
Integrity has gone with the wind
|Re: SCAM ALERT!!!! Beware Of A Builder Called Egbosajohnny by kopell: 9:37pm On Aug 08, 2015|
NA WA OOOOO, people will not believe how many case like this are underground. To bad.
|Re: SCAM ALERT!!!! Beware Of A Builder Called Egbosajohnny by oyewole123: 9:40pm On Aug 08, 2015|
You are right sir
It is the Ondo project but it will come out to be my best project very soon in Jesus name
|Re: SCAM ALERT!!!! Beware Of A Builder Called Egbosajohnny by mufutau55(m): 10:10pm On Aug 08, 2015|
God will always replace the lost... let your faith be strong Doc. It is well IJN.
|Re: SCAM ALERT!!!! Beware Of A Builder Called Egbosajohnny by Nobody: 10:41pm On Aug 08, 2015|
Wahala dey o let's be truthful at what we do o, wetin man go chop wey no dey finish ?
|Re: SCAM ALERT!!!! Beware Of A Builder Called Egbosajohnny by Nobody: 10:50pm On Aug 08, 2015|
True and is most unfortunate.
My respect is dwindling fast for artisans on here.
The back door resolution has actually done more hard than good. How do I know that even the best in the house is not a fraudster that has had issue resolved off of the forum?
|Re: SCAM ALERT!!!! Beware Of A Builder Called Egbosajohnny by segcymoor(m): 11:17pm On Aug 08, 2015|
EgunMogaji:d best in the house? Oya na oga spyder cone on board o. Awon egun nwa o
|Re: SCAM ALERT!!!! Beware Of A Builder Called Egbosajohnny by Nobody: 11:27pm On Aug 08, 2015|
Oga Segcy, don't get me into hot soup o, na beg I dey beg u o
Me I no mention Honorable name o
|Re: SCAM ALERT!!!! Beware Of A Builder Called Egbosajohnny by gabbytabby: 11:54pm On Aug 08, 2015|
Johnny casted a front door cantilever for a nairalander about 2 years ago and took off the support within 2weeks and the cantilever collapsed and at that point I realised that he does not know what he is doing hence my hmmm to some of his clamourings for contract. He walked away from this without completing work he had been paid for.
I did pray that he has learnt a bit more when I saw the ondo project.
You have an opportunity to look back on work done by a nairalander contractor avail yourself of this opportunity. If he has a habit of collecting money and not doing the work chances are he will do the same on yours, send private emailed and get some references.
Trust me it is a jungle out there, you cannot even trust family and collusion is the order of the day. Everyone is an engineer.
|Re: SCAM ALERT!!!! Beware Of A Builder Called Egbosajohnny by Nobody: 12:23am On Aug 09, 2015|
This mornings dramas just made me even more steadfast that on my build I will do only what I can on my 2 or 3 weeks vacation and lock my gate when I leave. And the builder and I will have a contract signed in front of a lawyer.
But even with all of that I am sure they have "loopholes" already formed.
I heard from another member a year ago about how the artisan came with his wife and children and elder brothers to beg him not to involve police when shyte hit the fan.
PS: Mr. Egbosa, you were on my short list of builders I was going to invite for a bid next month. I am sure you'll understand my reconsideration of that decision.
|Re: SCAM ALERT!!!! Beware Of A Builder Called Egbosajohnny by gabbytabby: 1:00am On Aug 09, 2015|
|Re: SCAM ALERT!!!! Beware Of A Builder Called Egbosajohnny by gabbytabby: 1:08am On Aug 09, 2015|
I had my own share of stories and similarly decided to supervise myself and lock the gate when I am ready to leave. That way no one gives me stroke. The last one l took a chuck of time off started and finished it then bailed.
Not everyone can do this but at least we pray that they find a contractor who knows what they are doing.
|Re: SCAM ALERT!!!! Beware Of A Builder Called Egbosajohnny by eghosajohnny: 2:20am On Aug 09, 2015|
Wao what a story well if not the call from segzy14 I wouldn't have known this was on,well they say clear conscience fears no acquisation.
Well I have but a little story about all this cos I can't say much and I have never seen people who claim they have travelled wide will be lying
Now to start with that project I started from march till now when he was paying money to my account I worked there till friday before I left and pls I want you to read this message carefully.
From that time till now he has a manager who supplies materials how did I buy materail and not pay,the only work I did was the BQ which was given directly to me which I was buying my cement little by little and I never owed the seller cos the seller was a small secetary girl.
We did casting of the decking and as we started the casting I discovered with the ratio that the sand is not good to follow it up like that cos when I complained the manager came to site and was shouting what is not good hear so to avoid trouble not to say because I wasn't given the materials to buy I decided to add much cement and along side when the cement wasn't going to be enough I called DR and told him he said he will remove it from my money and sand too,and he did on 3stage installment.
Now on the side he claimed that collapsed happened on the 23rd of may and before then we had built the first floor to lintels level and I said we can take some planks from the decking from some edges to board it the carpenters met with the manager that its not dried not knowing it was because they had job to do that was why they said so and the manager told DR and he said I should leave it for another 2weeks I said ok and the carpenter boarded the lintels and it was late that day that they couldnt join it with the pillars but thefollowing day unfortunately heavy rain fell that morning with wind and it was that place that fell even the kitchen wall that has single block wall to the lintel did not fall and he even said it was the wind and I said yes that it was the lintel plank the wind blew that droped the wall,this man said I will pay and I didn't argue just to make him relax and I bought the blocks and cement because my money was with him and I set the wall up.
The second one if you check the design you will see that the front verandah has no pillar on one end same too at the kitchen when we got there I had to put the pillar at the front since the carpenter had to do that place that day before telling him and I told him about the kitchen too that I will do the same but DR disagreed that atleast he wanted that place like that,that place took me time to tell the carpenter to board I had to go and buy 1inch rod to beam that parapet but the day it happened I told him and he denied all this was happening as a result of the fact that my money was with him and he sent 40k of my money to start the reconstruction of the place I had to plead before he added 20k,
About the planks I'm accused of stealing from the opposite site (hmm)I quoted 50planks and as we were boarding the ground floor lintel those people were friends with us even some of their workers were the ones I ised in building the house and we share things in common we still give them water and for that we needed some planks just to complete a litlle part remaining on the lintel I had to meet the mason there and told him and he agreed and we used the wood then a man came who I never new was the engineer of the site said I collected his planks I said yes that I wll return it as soon as the decking was cure and due to pull but the whole became fast and didn't remember to return that time and when the man came I promised him tjat as soon as we are through with the parapet we will give him any planks he want he agreed and the day we pulled it I called and told him it was ready but he didn't come and came after 5days and without calling me went to the station to bring police and before I came there one of my worker was rude and the police were annoyed and said they will take him to station so we went and I relesed the boy all this was just to push my so called clients work and I'm being accused of stealing even by him,well its ok.
Now my fellow builders here on nairaland I want to know if this is possible to do to ourselves me and doctor agreed on the plastering work on the same 23rd of may and later the same morning after concluding the palster he now asked if I will supervise all other work as he will need some and I said ok and I told him 218k that the 18k will be for the house rent and 200k for the job and when the roof was done by hlbroker since I gave him my quote and without concluding he went to meet hlbroker and I didn't know what they agreed but as the carpenter worked I asked them the height and they told me 6mtr and I related it to my client and he said they agreed 7mtr as he called hlbroker the hlbroker called me and was shouting at me then when they roofed and left DR called and we discussed on the BQ and security plasyering and I told to add what he will add to the money on the main building that I want to render the wall with 2inch and some places that need to be filled too cos that how I do me plastering and the wall will be brushed with water cement so al the wall will be showing cement wall he added the money and the follow day his manager brought frame I hanged it and pay the labours cos I added all to the plastering work and 2days later he sent me money so I can get bamboo and they can start scaffolding,immediately I called for the bamboo and they promised to bring it the following day and the womand sent her acc number and I paid a mason was with me the same time I gave him some money so he can come and be mantaining the hole on the wall and scraping the floor,after this few things a line called me though I know the line thinking it was dR I picked it was his wife that DR said I shouldn't ise the money,I asked why she said she didn't know I said ok and was wondering bit I didnt worry much,in the evening DR called that a neighbour called him that the rod I used for the BQ is 10mm and the blocks I used aren't strong I said sir this rod I mounted it and sent to you is it now that the BQ is roofed that the rod is 10mm why didn't the person say when it was under construction the next thing was its hlbroker who is coming to render the wall I said ha DR just like that he said I will render the fence and I told him that some of that money has being used he started shouting,he removed the money from my money for fence I didn't say anything cos all I wanted to deliver that building later he called and talked of the supervision money and I told him that supervising this guys will be hard and he said they have theor oga I backed away the following money I was annoyed and said to myself a fellow nairalander doing this I'm surprised I had to text hlbroker pls don't come and he called and I said can I do you this thing as u came to roof and know that I'm on ground you would have left the site for me he dropped and told DR that I was threatning him DR called that he had called police insulting me and I told him this is what I said he said and so left me and was insulting my family I nearly returned it back to him but I controlled myself that was how hlbroker came for the plastering as they started the plastering I saw it was not what DR told me I tried to talk to him but the mason was rude and in the process someone called me to just be looking at them since they have their oga I followed untill this thursday when surprisingly I saw the mason rendering the wall I was surprised bit disnt say any and snapped it and send to DR and he asked who asked them to render the fence I replied I thought it was you he didn't reply on time then he later replied I asked them to continue cos its cheap and the job is good forgetong that even when we agreed I added 6pilar precast to it that I will with the plastering.
That of the plumbering DR sent me a mail stating that if the plumber accept 150k for the piping to soakaway and borehore and that only fitting is what he will pay for again and if he agrees he can start on monday that was then I showed the plumber direct the mail he said ok and went chisling the wall and in the evening DR called and I told him he said 200k thinking he will price it cos that's what he does but he didn't that because the plumber is their family plumber I gave him all money and added 8k to it to make 158' and all of a sudden the plumber started acting funny delaying the job and one day said the BQ wasn't added and I told him that I have 4witness that was there as I gave you the phone and I left it with you and he droped it before I came back,DR was worried and after much insisted on their numbers I gave but told the plumber to express him self. But to just tell DR that its 200k he agreed and DR asked him and he said me and him agreed on 200k that I have only gave him 140k then I called the plumber to rememer that this money was tranfered he said he wrote it and doctor said he will pay him the 200k complete and I told him it not my concern because if I hadn't add that money and just told hom the 150k would you paid this extra 50k.
So I just thought what will I be doing when the fence work is done my supervision he reduced from 218k to 150k and he still removed 40k from it for me to use it to construct what me and him concluded and the money wasn't enough and he gave me another. 20k on friday with 36k of pop so I collected that 56k and left cos as I write now the front fence that is remaining to cast the gate my money with DR is 49k,the parapet is remaining 28k,from my supervision from the calculation I still have 30k from cos he has given me 60k which I still used for his work.
This is all that happened and DR if you are man of honour read this post and if I lie send all your mail cos that mostly our means of communication,I respect client a lot at a point I can displease myself for a client but some of them take it for granted I don't quit job easily but this push was too much.
When we started and it was just the manager ,me and him it was all smooth,I started to dislike the manager when he kind of blackmailed unknowing to me when materials remain I said I will keep it to surprise my client but he came that he had stress and when money came for the next stage he pleaded we take the some money so we can use the material I had on ground that was the survey he did for DR that there was no red copy and they said he should bring 40k and he doesn't have and I said since its the same DRs work take 45k 5k for transport and he gave me 15k that was my mistake with his manager and since then money will meet him he will take say his car has fault DR doesn't give him money,the last one was when DR sent money for the parapet before I new he remove 54k and was telling me nonsence that was why his parapet was delayed cos i was annoyed but when the work was delaying the BQ project I had to use my money to finish the casting it was later he then told me that the cement he bought he didn't pay for 14bags and I said who will pay the one I bought to finish the job.
This is all I have to say and we builders here most of us know this and if doctor says he is not owing this amount there are mail I do send to acknowledge payment so there are many proof,I wanted to let it go but he just felt the best thing is for him to spoil my name and to think of it is it bad to tell a client that it was in his project that your wife had a baby which is now mockery and the only time DR called was 2days before I went to site at about 8:20pm on thursday march 14 since we started communicating it was all on mail that he is now saying I was calling him begging for the job,we builder here are to make internet forum.
We are not beggers
|Re: SCAM ALERT!!!! Beware Of A Builder Called Egbosajohnny by csiworksnig(f): 2:41am On Aug 09, 2015|
Sorry sir, even the ones you know well can do worse. Reputation is important. I tank God for my life.
|Re: SCAM ALERT!!!! Beware Of A Builder Called Egbosajohnny by eghosajohnny: 2:43am On Aug 09, 2015|
To start with I hope this post isn't for me that I came with family to beg cos I just don't understand the post well pls don't be offended. Cos many things happen when something happen.
I can never put my family in my business its me and me alone and no matter what I keep my name cos good name they say is better than riches.from my experience with DR he has being an ingrate and inhuman imagine when I told my client that I had an accident as I was driving when I travelled,right on the phone there was no sorry or how is your leg,I came the leg was paining me I told him in the evening but because I couldn't go to site to snap his gate on a sunday for that matter DR wrote a termination letter not even to call to know,it was his manager who saw it and I told him to help me tell DR before he wrote another agreement say its my excuse.
How I wish someone from ondo is here to visit fagun you will hear what they are saying about he did but I just said he is the owner of the house let him do what he pleases
I can't say much but I believe what is yours is yours even if he tries all this it doesn't stop me to reach where I will get to this year.
All other job I did since I started his work I couldn't post them cos of respect,anytime I send update I send all areas so if he see anything we can correct on time .
|Re: SCAM ALERT!!!! Beware Of A Builder Called Egbosajohnny by BONES488: 2:44am On Aug 09, 2015|
|Re: SCAM ALERT!!!! Beware Of A Builder Called Egbosajohnny by csiworksnig(f): 2:53am On Aug 09, 2015|
So who is telling the truth.... U are both acting like girls. This could be settled peacefully, No one knows tomorrow. The eng is nt a fraud, if he was he would have left or ran away with d first money u gave him. And pls Mr eng, never abandon a clients project, u just have to face d worst and finish it, Please do try settle this
|Re: SCAM ALERT!!!! Beware Of A Builder Called Egbosajohnny by Nobody: 4:30am On Aug 09, 2015|
Nope, I didn't say it was you that went to beg with family.
Get well soon.
|Re: SCAM ALERT!!!! Beware Of A Builder Called Egbosajohnny by eghosajohnny: 6:00am On Aug 09, 2015|
I'm very happy to treat this issue today cos when you hear something you conclude because you want to believe the story just the way you heard it
When I was employed to do that job I was told to be in charge and the work was going on and we went to check the cantiliver and when we came to site before we got to that stage we diid the decking of the penthouse and the cantilivar at the kitchen entrance and before all this differnt people will be coming to bring their own idea and I told my client that he should allow me get this idea myself and when the iron bender for the decking work I told him to add pillar as we have chisel the space but he refused and me client wouldn't say anything and I told him it won't stay even the decking I was the one who was adding rods to the wall where the decking will stay tell my boy to tie it.
When the incident happened I told my client that he should allow me do it the it ought to be,he refused and called the same welder,showing him what to do as I told my boy that he tie it to the pillar in the wall the same welder refused and did it the same way I went to get a welder who now did the job and we cast it but all this while I was calling the client,sending mails but he won't pick nor reply mail for one week and 2 days before I called the boys and we left and it was then I travelled.
It is always good for people to always say the truth after 3 and half months he came to nigeria and called me I went to meet and he had to add pillar I said ok and left,how did I run pls ask him if we didn't meet when he came back
|Re: SCAM ALERT!!!! Beware Of A Builder Called Egbosajohnny by eghosajohnny: 6:17am On Aug 09, 2015|
Thank you sir,but the case was choiceless when I will be supervising and accepting the amount on the grounds that some jobs will be given not even anywork just the rendering we have concluded and I was paid to get started and he just stoped the work and gave it to hlbroker promising to give the fence I didn't mind and before I know it he gave it away and the said supervision money I have used 40k to work on the parapet so what will do.even the pop art work the guy said they might send him out there cos he's the only one with me there so I just told to say anything if they can allow him finish the job and was surprise they are telling saying now that I've paid him at all 5k,I don't know how that is possible
Sir,on who's telling the truth let DR akinterinwa oyewole bring out the mail we've being sending as regards this project he's a big client let him defend what he started
|Re: SCAM ALERT!!!! Beware Of A Builder Called Egbosajohnny by spyder880(m): 7:32am On Aug 09, 2015|
Oga na you be my Oga o! Much respect my man
|Re: SCAM ALERT!!!! Beware Of A Builder Called Egbosajohnny by Nobody: 7:38am On Aug 09, 2015|
I sense something started getting worst when u brought a Nairalander in to work , I won't mention names but u can only give your best with sincerity, u don't av to hard your own money since the owner of the house has been using u for the project, take ur client like a family whom u will give all the sincerity to, secondly DR u don't av to keep multiple people for inspection on a project sir, the problem u get is one trying to damage the others services and @ the end of the day there will be problems, an issue happened on a project and let me share with u here, I av a sister who stays abroad and my own elder brother had to inspect the works for her and I was the one asking her to pay whatever amount my brother charges her and I will tell u a lot of errors was made and to our surprise we got to know my brother has been over billing his own blood sister and even getting money for what was not needed at the site, problem started when he cheated on the bricklayer who after a lil argument exposed the dirty transaction btw him and my brother and u won't believe all materials used were all fake , cement used for the building wasn't enough to give out quality looks and it even got to the plumbing guy who left pipes unfitted together under the ground and when we pump water to the tank , it vanishes in few minute like a spirit was drinking the water, after a lot of critical errors was discover, it tooke good stressful days to discover the pipe left underground unfitted, the plumber blocked the waste drainage with pure water nylon, then we started thinking a spirit was somewhere on the site this is what u will get when u decide to be greedy and lost ur integrity, I had to take the project from there because I was the one my sister blamed for not telling her when she asks if all was well at the site and me trying to safe the family from arguement and quarrel I will tell her all was well at the site , I started using my own money to cover up my brother's mess and tried to work as a tiler even when it was my profession, u can imagine even ur own blood will betray u at some point, despite my brother knows the problem our sister was facing abroad, pls Nairalanders people abroad are not pluckingoney on the tree likewise everyone here who uses his hard earned money on a project, let's be considerate and offer our best and at the end u get a better record for yourself and even u get paid for your honesty. Mr Eghosa u were trying to be sincere when u introduce the roofer to DR and I think u need to get back that trust DR had in u before he offered u his project, DR sir pls take things easy with him and I believe he has learned his lesson to be honest and be more open at what he does even there are always u can talk friendly at ur client to get yourself pocket money when u hail him or her for assistance, let's av a community of trust, honesty and sincerity in our all ours services, ibi ti eyan ti se Ise lo n ti je sugbon ajeju Ni ko da, God bless us all , happy Sunday house. Oga Eghosa talk to DR and appeal , customers are always right , I want us o know that we all av a role to play in each other's life but let's play a good role and get the best from our roles. Thanks to seun ,oga mufutau55 and all the bosses of boss I hail from my end here o
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|Re: SCAM ALERT!!!! Beware Of A Builder Called Egbosajohnny by akinola98: 7:56am On Aug 09, 2015|
|Re: SCAM ALERT!!!! Beware Of A Builder Called Egbosajohnny by Nobody: 8:21am On Aug 09, 2015|
mufutau55:is the ondo project Hajji , Johnny really mess up things over there. this is picture of the collapse parapet Johnny did, Johnny really want to extirpate is name from this forum.
When i met Johnny on site at the time i got the contract of roofing and covering the building, i had an observation of this parapet.
one it lack adequate reinforcement and the casting was not purely mixed with accurate cement to hold this parapet.
secondly, cutter rods was not installed in the parapet, and without the cutter rods, we can't attach the roof to the building and if we can't attach the roof to the building then wind can carry the roof away.
thirdly, Johnny didn't create any space that our roofing wall plate are going to be laid, which is the foundation of our roofing before the construction of the tie beams.
Fourthly, one coach of blocks was missing on top of all the walls inside the building.
I'm saying all this because i'm the one plastering the house and this collapse parapet is not only delaying me, is a set back for my workers, we have our time frame to stay one the site and move on to the next project.
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