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Re: Ikoli-Awolowo Relationship: Ijaw-Yoruba Political Relationship by TonyeBarcanista(m): 8:41pm On Dec 17, 2015 |
Ugomba:There is nothing like VP aspirant. GEJ was running for the position of Bayelsa state Governor when Obasanjo decided that the SS should run with Yar'adua. He went to GEJ ahead of fellow SSner Odili. And the agreement in PDP was to field SOUTHERN candidate in 2015(not just SE) after the north completed the two terms(2007 and 2011). Same Obasanjo made sure GEJ was favored to fly the ticket in 2011 against agreement made in 2007. 4 Likes |
Re: Ikoli-Awolowo Relationship: Ijaw-Yoruba Political Relationship by StuntingBlack(m): 8:43pm On Dec 17, 2015 |
EternalTruths: Are 'Southern Cameroun' and 'Cameroun' the same? 6 Likes |
Re: Ikoli-Awolowo Relationship: Ijaw-Yoruba Political Relationship by misterawo: 8:48pm On Dec 17, 2015 |
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Re: Ikoli-Awolowo Relationship: Ijaw-Yoruba Political Relationship by EternalTruths: 8:48pm On Dec 17, 2015 |
StuntingBlack: Common sense should have told you that he meant Southern Cameroon but unfortunately, common sense is not common ![]() 3 Likes |
Re: Ikoli-Awolowo Relationship: Ijaw-Yoruba Political Relationship by Ugomba(m): 8:49pm On Dec 17, 2015 |
TonyeBarcanista:your analysis is flawed. The agreement was that After Yaradua, an Igbo man will take over with PDP mandate. So Ijaw man as Yaradua VP was a sign of promoting equality in PDP which Igbo key PDP men agreed upon. Don't rewrite a Fact in a bid to establish ur Igbo hatred agenda. We are NOT in 1967-1970. It wil not sell again here in SS, not even Ikwerres wil buy it. 1 Like |
Re: Ikoli-Awolowo Relationship: Ijaw-Yoruba Political Relationship by TonyeBarcanista(m): 8:52pm On Dec 17, 2015 |
EternalTruths:I don't knw what Igbo has to do with Ijaw-Yoruba relationship. Why are you bringing igbo into a subject that does not concern the tribe? As in why not fulani? Odi is ijawland and I don't see how it affect the Igbo tribe that you keep mentioning. 10 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Ikoli-Awolowo Relationship: Ijaw-Yoruba Political Relationship by TonyeBarcanista(m): 9:01pm On Dec 17, 2015 |
Ugomba:You see my friend, you are talking nonsense. The PDP agreement of 2002 was North-South rotation. In fact, 2019 has been zoned to NORTH without being specific on the zone. NO Igboman or anyone else 'agreed' for SS to be Yar'adua VP. It was all OBJ and Clark's idea. This is a fact! Pray tell, who was the Igboman that entered such agreement? Also the race for 2015 was for the South not SE. It was very clear. Or you think GEJ, Imoke, Akpabio or Amaechi wouldn't have sought for party ticket in 2015 if Yar'adua had completed his two tenures? Na wa o... This is a recent history! 8 Likes |
Re: Ikoli-Awolowo Relationship: Ijaw-Yoruba Political Relationship by TonyeBarcanista(m): 9:03pm On Dec 17, 2015 |
![]() coolscott:Where you publish am? |
Re: Ikoli-Awolowo Relationship: Ijaw-Yoruba Political Relationship by Ugomba(m): 9:30pm On Dec 17, 2015 |
TonyeBarcanista:One does not have to be a psychologist to detect that you have a deep rooted Igbophobic agenda which u want to use the power of social media to spread. Maybe its the kind of brainwashing that was given to u while growing up as an ijaw guy. - You hid under the Nnamdi Kanu brouhaha which even we Anioma do not support to spread ur agenda in a bid to use it as a catalyst to create a SE vs SS enemity when many Igbo leaders were not in support of Nnamdi Kanu. - whats ur latest trickish tactics, Creating an Ijaw, Yoruba, Awolowo and Gowon political bromance thread with a Concealed aim to spite the Igbos, the same people who were threatened and insulted for voting for an Ijaw man.. - You fool no one here. You know exactly how these thread will degenerate into tribal bashing. - These your Agenda Can't sell again,not even here in Delta. Or even in Akwa Ibom/ Calabar. Because People are weary about Ijaws too, if you doubt it, let the Ijaws champion the Niger Delta Republic agitation and watch how we Aniomas, even the Efik, Ibibios, Urhobos, Annang etc will kick against it because An Ijaw Man Have His Own Sterotypes. 10 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Ikoli-Awolowo Relationship: Ijaw-Yoruba Political Relationship by TonyeBarcanista(m): 9:42pm On Dec 17, 2015 |
Ugomba:See yourself, are you an Efik, ibibio or annang man? You feel threatened because I seek to bring to the fore the benevolence of Yoruba sons towards the Ijaws and other ethnic south south minority groups. Your fear made you cook up the 'igbophobia thrash and other nonsense. By the way, Ijaws are primarily concerned with RESOURCE CONTROL like other ethnic groups in the SS. We are NOT calling for secession yet. In fact, we are primarily concerned with furthering to achieve our noble demands. I don't know why you are acting insecure. Any relationship with yorubas or other groups is for our own interest. GEJ our brother lost election but we all saw how close Dickson/Sylva contest was... In other words, we have moved on to the next chapter... Grow up! 19 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: Ikoli-Awolowo Relationship: Ijaw-Yoruba Political Relationship by hurricaneChris: 9:47pm On Dec 17, 2015 |
This bromance won't last. |
Re: Ikoli-Awolowo Relationship: Ijaw-Yoruba Political Relationship by T8ksy(m): 9:48pm On Dec 17, 2015 |
TonyeBarcanista: You should direct your asinine question to Zik (in his grave) and his mischievous folks. At that time a crisis within the movement was precipitated by the resignation of Dr. K.A Abayomi from the Legislative Council. Ernest Ikoli, then president of the NYM sought the party’s nomination for the vacancy. He was opposed by Samuel Akinsanya, then Vice President of the N.Y.M. The selection of Ikoli led to allegations of tribal discrimination: Azikwe and Akinsanya charged that the latter had been rejected only because the dominant group of Lagos yorubas would not countenance the nomination of an Ijebu yoruba. StuntingBlack: NCNC was formed in 1944 as National Council of Nigeria and the Camerouns. 3 Likes |
Re: Ikoli-Awolowo Relationship: Ijaw-Yoruba Political Relationship by Ugomba(m): 9:53pm On Dec 17, 2015 |
TonyeBarcanista:The Truth Hurts. My Straight Point Is That your hidden agenda is Dead On Arrival on this forum. 2 Likes |
Re: Ikoli-Awolowo Relationship: Ijaw-Yoruba Political Relationship by TonyeBarcanista(m): 9:57pm On Dec 17, 2015 |
T8ksy:Azikiwa wasn't smart at all. Which one is Lagos-yoruba and anti-Ijebu sentiment? Was Ikoli Yoruba at all? I don't even understand their argument. Wasn't Akinsanya a legitimate yorubaman? How can he and Zik accuse Awo of tribalism when Awo was a Yorubaman like him? This is like accusing me of being tribalistic for supporting Wike(Ikwerre) instead of Dakuku(Ijaw). Or accuse Sylva of tribalism for supporting Buhari(fulani) instead of GEJ(Ijaw). Na wa o! That doesn't show any sign of sportsmanship. 9 Likes |
Re: Ikoli-Awolowo Relationship: Ijaw-Yoruba Political Relationship by LadyExcellency: 10:14pm On Dec 17, 2015 |
TonyeBarcanista: @Ijawcitizen, you can lie no be small. Ever seen this interview and true confessions of Pastor Tunde Bakare by Punchng? The major excerpts below: Buhari Had Obsanjo's Endorsement Over Jonathan, If He Had dropped Me for Okonjo-Iweala In 2011 Presidential Election – Tunde Bakare The day before the final submission of names, former President Olusegun Obasanjo told El-Rufai that he was ready to support Buhari if he could drop me and replace me with Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala as his running mate. El-Rufai ran to me, that this was what Obasanjo said. The three of us were in the same hotel but in different suites. We went straight to Gen. Buhari and I said to him that breakthrough had come. I told him I had not filled the form and that there were five reasons why he must take Okonjo-Iweala. Number one, she is Delta-Igbo, you would have solved the problem of South-East/South-South. Number two, she’s a woman, you have settled the gender issue. Number three, Christian, balanced ticket. Number four, a former minister of finance and former minister of external affairs, experience which I don’t have. Number five, World Bank top executive, international exposure. Even though I have travelled round the world, I have not worked in any organisation, she is a better candidate. This is the form, I have not filled it. General Buhari looked at me and said did Obasanjo speak to you and I said no that he spoke to El-Rufai and I believe him. And he asked El-Rufai to repeat everything Obasanjo said to him and he did. He said to El-Rufai that well, you have worked with him and I have worked with him too, he would have something up his sleeves which we don’t know. Buhari turned to me and said, Pastor Bakare, I have waited long enough and today is the last day, if you are not going to fill the form, give it to me, I will look for someone until we can get a person like you. At that point, I became overwhelmed and I signed the form and El-Rufai seconded. That was the process; it was not an overnight thing. Credits: punchng.com |
Re: Ikoli-Awolowo Relationship: Ijaw-Yoruba Political Relationship by coolscott(m): 10:15pm On Dec 17, 2015 |
TonyeBarcanista:I will mention on your twitter handle. Will dedicate online promo funds for your write-ups from January. |
Re: Ikoli-Awolowo Relationship: Ijaw-Yoruba Political Relationship by TonyeBarcanista(m): 10:20pm On Dec 17, 2015 |
coolscott:Thanks boss... That will be great and helpful! |
Re: Ikoli-Awolowo Relationship: Ijaw-Yoruba Political Relationship by TonyeBarcanista(m): 10:25pm On Dec 17, 2015 |
Tunde Bakare said... El Rufai SAID...Obasanjo SAID... Lol! That is THEM-SAY THEM SAY... For Christ sake we all know that El rufai is a lying liar. Is he not the same person that published fake figures of GEJ independent celebration? Is he not the same man? For all I care(actually I don't care), nobody in his right mind will work with them-say them-say. Fact is, God through Obj made GEJ VP(2007) and President (2011). This is a fact And I won't reply you if you keep referring to me as IjawCitizen. LadyExcellency: 2 Likes |
Re: Ikoli-Awolowo Relationship: Ijaw-Yoruba Political Relationship by aljharem(m): 10:29pm On Dec 17, 2015 |
TonyeBarcanista you have done very well. It is funny how Igbos think supporting Jonathan = Ijaw under Igbo ethnicity. I don't understand that mentality. Thank you once again, I am a huge fan of yours truly. I make sure I read your topic from the beginning to the end because they speak the truth. I also love the fact you support Biafra based on freedom of association. Dude you are brilliant !!!!!!! I hope Ekoile and co can learn from you. 2 Likes |
Re: Ikoli-Awolowo Relationship: Ijaw-Yoruba Political Relationship by aljharem(m): 10:31pm On Dec 17, 2015 |
TonyeBarcanista: Good !!!!! |
Re: Ikoli-Awolowo Relationship: Ijaw-Yoruba Political Relationship by LadyExcellency: 10:33pm On Dec 17, 2015 |
TonyeBarcanista: This is one on one interview by punch correspondent with Pastor Tunde Bakare hence the excerpts are direct quotes. Stop twisting the truth to suit your line of thought. Obasanjo reluctantly gave in to GEJ presidency in 2011 because Buhari couldn't meet his conditions and nothing more. It was purely on personal interest hence there is nothing about Ijaw/Yoruba political alliance about it. - QED 1 Like |
Re: Ikoli-Awolowo Relationship: Ijaw-Yoruba Political Relationship by TRUTHTOPOWER: 11:09pm On Dec 17, 2015 |
misterawo: You mean the voices of self determination from Ijaws, Ogojas, Calabars, Anaangs, Efiks, Ibiobios which produced the Earnest Ikoli and the first Nigerian AG federation, Graham Douglas, was nothing but a babble to the Eastern lords! So fair an assessment from "freedom" fighters! As for the credit given to NCNC on the independence of Southern Cameroon, Wikipedia has a little info. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_Cameroons The Cameroonians left Nigeria because of the "Domineering" attitude of Nigerian politicians. Their separation started with British ordinance in 1953 and completed with UN plebiscite and resolutions of 1961. This happened not because of Nigerian politicians but despite their domineering attitude. your research will reveal the most likely oppressors in that unhappy union! 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Ikoli-Awolowo Relationship: Ijaw-Yoruba Political Relationship by Abagworo(m): 11:20pm On Dec 17, 2015 |
As usual they once again seek for unity with relevant Yorubas while Igbos stake their political relevance for them. Its alright but I am not one of the Igbos who did it. I'm glad voting a strong and incorruptible Northerner. In a nutshell according to the OP Igbos played no role in Jonathan's emergence but rather played a role in his downfall. Onye nwere nti nuru ihe. 4 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Ikoli-Awolowo Relationship: Ijaw-Yoruba Political Relationship by papparatzzi2013: 11:22pm On Dec 17, 2015 |
Abagworo: The quoted is actually a fact that is well known in the political clime of Nigeria. 5 Likes |
Re: Ikoli-Awolowo Relationship: Ijaw-Yoruba Political Relationship by Unamad: 11:32pm On Dec 17, 2015 |
Abagworo: One fact is Igbo had the Vice Presidency ticket under APC but becos of GEJ let it go so as not to share south east vote. Igbos have been punished more than any tribe becos of GEJ support. Further, GEJ had a responsibility to all in his administration to retain power for another 4 years but he was too weak. I doubt comments of TonyeBarcanista an Itsekiri man that did not support GEJ presidency but claims to be Ijaw has any standing. 2 Likes |
Re: Ikoli-Awolowo Relationship: Ijaw-Yoruba Political Relationship by ikechu1278: 11:34pm On Dec 17, 2015 |
TonyeBarcanista: This dude stay rewriting history on NL. When and where did Awolwo support the creation of Midwest? Awolowo was against mid west creation despite his pretense. Akintola was the only one who changed his view in regards to Mid West Creation. Awolowo never did. Every f2king body that is actually a REAL Midwesterner actually know this crucial part of history in regards to the creation of Midwest. While I'm at it, akintola was the ONLY one the created any form of minister or council for Midwest, never Awolowo. Don't stay on NL rewriting history you have zero idea of you. For those that want to know the REAL history in regards to Awolwo participation in creation to midwest, read below But shortly after he did so, the Action Group won 15 out of 30 seats from the Midwest in the Western House elections of August 8, 1960, even barely beating an Otu-Edo candidate in Benin as well Prince Shaka Momodu in Irrua, in what was regarded as an upset, perhaps influenced by manipulation of the 1959 voter’s register. This outcome emboldened Awolowo and Akintola to publicly declare that they would not support the creation of the Midwest until after the 1964 federal elections when they would be in power at the center – although they kept up pressure for creation of the Calabar-Ogoja-Rivers and Middle Belt States in other regions. Meanwhile, Barrister SO Ighodaro had taken over the Ministry of Midwest Affairs from Anthony Enahoro, when the latter elected to go federal, having lost out to SLA Akintola who returned to the West to succeed Awolowo as the Premier. http://ihuanedo.ning.com/m/group/discussion?id=2971192%3ATopic%3A98288 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Ikoli-Awolowo Relationship: Ijaw-Yoruba Political Relationship by Appareil(m): 11:47pm On Dec 17, 2015 |
coolitempa:Na wah oh!! May God intervene for the Igbos. I feel for them at this point. 1 Like |
Re: Ikoli-Awolowo Relationship: Ijaw-Yoruba Political Relationship by ikechu1278: 11:49pm On Dec 17, 2015 |
Ugomba: Thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Even to the extent of rewritten history of Midwest. Like the f2k? Most of us from Midwest, that are REAL, not all this wannabe deltans know awolowo had zero bearing in the creation of Midwest. In fact, despite going on media to announce support, he frustrated every factor that could bring port a mid west. The only thing awolowo played a crucial role was the division of East, that is it. That ijawcitizen/tonybarcainsta criminal stay on NK rewritten the history of EVERY SS group in this forum. Who the f2k appointed that dude historian. Like it I'd gella disgusting how an unknown, wannabe politicians feels he is now the voice of everyone. I honestly cannot stand that nigga and I hope he gets shot 4 Likes |
Re: Ikoli-Awolowo Relationship: Ijaw-Yoruba Political Relationship by TonyeBarcanista(m): 11:52pm On Dec 17, 2015 |
ikechu1278:You see why I insist that you should get your fact right? I said and I quote..... I don't think any Ijaw or southern minority can fault Awo. Apart from his role in Ikoli's political fortune, Awo also created Ministry of Midwest just to pacify the midwersterners(now Edo and Delta) when they agitated for a region of their own because he doesn't want Western region to split.. You rushed to claim that Awo never created the ministry. Lemme cure your ignorance... For the Midwest in particular, Anthony Enahoro proposed an idea patterned after the Ministry of Welsh Affairs that had been created in 1951 in the United Kingdom by the Conservative government. This concept meant that rather than a new Midwest region, the Midwest would be managed under a “Ministry of Midwest Affairs” concurrently under his supervision as the Western region Minister for Home Affairs. Chief Awolowo accepted this concept. That shows that he was very much concerned about MidWest Affairs. Like I said, you should get your fact right... And save other irrelevant epistles for yourself. 5 Likes |
Re: Ikoli-Awolowo Relationship: Ijaw-Yoruba Political Relationship by CeterisXVII: 11:53pm On Dec 17, 2015 |
TonyeBarcanista: God bless you one million times on Sundays, and five million times on weekdays! ![]() Unlike some ethnic tribes that blame others for their woes, I do believe a synergy of like minds across different ethnic groups working together for the common good, can change the fortunes of our nation in a positive way! ![]() 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Ikoli-Awolowo Relationship: Ijaw-Yoruba Political Relationship by Leopardd(m): 11:55pm On Dec 17, 2015 |
psssst, this barca nigga should get real with himself and get something doing. swaying left and right, typical nigerian politician. Ok, as usual time to blame and slay Igbos and go back to Yorubas. Pssst! Nah. Crazy. |
Re: Ikoli-Awolowo Relationship: Ijaw-Yoruba Political Relationship by TimeManager(m): 11:55pm On Dec 17, 2015 |
While i agree with you that awo/ikoli birthed yoruba/ijaw relationship, baba Awo will always choose substance over affluence irrespective of tribal affiliations which he ably found in ikoli. A principle of substance quite evident in Awo's professionalism and ideology. No lie only truth! 4 Likes 1 Share |
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