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Re: Does God Exist? [let's Switch Sides] by KingEbukasBlog(m): 7:35pm On Nov 10, 2016 |
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Re: Does God Exist? [let's Switch Sides] by nigeriafilm(m): 8:50pm On Nov 10, 2016 |
johnydon22:I have been following this Atheism recently with keen and humble interest. It's amazing, I have never thought human can argue against the existence of God. Although, your points are not out of place but the composition of nature ie human, animal, the earth, sun, moon, stars, whether, season etc prove you wrong. Take a look at the organisation of nature, is it a mere coincidence that it is such beautifully arranged? Sure a brain is behind it. Nothing just happen, it is that brain that I call God. |
Re: Does God Exist? [let's Switch Sides] by Nobody: 9:25pm On Nov 10, 2016 |
my top arguments for a God. especially the Christian God. 1. there is no fundamental difference between a universe that came by chance and one that was made to look like chance. Therefore, whether God exists or not, we cannot know by just observing the universe if it was disguised to look random in the first place. 2. Christian scientists have constantly excelled in their fields. some of the best ones were lifetime Christians. 3. it's not just DNA. life itself is a collection of molecular machines. molecular machines themselves require such a high level of intellectual process that three people had to share the 2016 chemistry Nobel prize for their synthesis and design. suggesting they came by chance in hydrothermal vents is very suspicious. 4. the atmosphere in churches of worship is very divine. one can almost feel a divine presence when worshipping God. if God did not exist, how would this be possible? 5. the bible has repeatedly proven to be quite historically accurate. All major events have been reliably documented and separately confirmed. could this not mean that the Bible is quite accurate in whole? 6. miracles and signs and wonders. and the signs of the end time. everything Jesus said would happen is now happening even to the letter. if he were fake, would that really be possible? 7. the wonder of the works of nature. from the pineapple to the horseshoe crab to the immortal jelly fish to the human brain. could this Really have come from "random" evolution? If at this point you're wondering how on earth I could still be an atheist if I knew all this, then you should know my personality is the kind that questions existing arguments till they break down. the above is no exception. 2 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Does God Exist? [let's Switch Sides] by wiegraf: 10:08am On Nov 11, 2016 |
DeepSight: Get a tank of nitrogen or helium, you'd go with a smile on your face sef Getting one is a little difficult tho Living as a rat can be tough, but I wouldn't have it any other way |
Re: Does God Exist? [let's Switch Sides] by wiegraf: 10:12am On Nov 11, 2016 |
4kings: Goot Now, if you accept that this is likely a simulation, then what would the being who's running the simulation qualify as? |
Re: Does God Exist? [let's Switch Sides] by Nobody: 11:07am On Nov 11, 2016 |
johnydon22:Oya na. lets Start |
Re: Does God Exist? [let's Switch Sides] by Nobody: 11:21am On Nov 11, 2016 |
All gods are man made and this is known from the fact that all deities assume attributes dictated by people who rever them. I could easily make up a god and call it a god of hail and fire. That a god exists should be seen in the fact that it is independent of people's dictatorship. If we feel that gods created this complex cosmos by only basing our arguments on its incomprehensible complexity, then we must remember that gods are beings of complex nature and this should compel us to question the origin of gods. cc johnydon22 valentinemary 4kings |
Re: Does God Exist? [let's Switch Sides] by akintom(m): 11:46am On Nov 11, 2016 |
johnydon22: I am Humanist, i certainly don't believe in the existence of Gods, supernatural, spirit and realism based on religious beliefs. But for the purpose of this thread, i will argue in favor of existence of monotheistic God. 1. God is an eternal being. He has persona attributes. He doesn't have a known or knowable beginning or residential location (he lives in all life and non life bearing spaces). |
Re: Does God Exist? [let's Switch Sides] by 4kings: 12:04pm On Nov 11, 2016 |
wiegraf:A Designer |
Re: Does God Exist? [let's Switch Sides] by hahn(m): 12:12pm On Nov 11, 2016 |
johnydon22: How did it go? |
Re: Does God Exist? [let's Switch Sides] by wiegraf: 12:17pm On Nov 11, 2016 |
4kings: You've just admitted there most likely is a designer. You may choose to name it such, but I would use a much more forward term: god So, as you can see, likely thereisgodoh |
Re: Does God Exist? [let's Switch Sides] by 4kings: 12:22pm On Nov 11, 2016 |
wiegraf:Ya, i never dispute that point |
Re: Does God Exist? [let's Switch Sides] by DeepSight(m): 3:05pm On Nov 11, 2016 |
wiegraf: Don't you think that living as a spirit being in a world of spirit forms absent the mortal requirements of living as a rat would be a superior existence? |
Re: Does God Exist? [let's Switch Sides] by wiegraf: 3:44pm On Nov 11, 2016 |
DeepSight: Depends on what a spirit being and my values are, good ser |
Re: Does God Exist? [let's Switch Sides] by DeepSight(m): 4:20pm On Nov 11, 2016 |
wiegraf: A spirit being is simply you absent your physical body. Now I know that you do not believe that you can exist absent your body, but you can, and indeed you will. If you have ever had out of body experiences you will have a personal knowledge of this which will be beyond words and arguments. Your values are simply the same thing: that which will be important to you without the needs of a physical body being considered. |
Re: Does God Exist? [let's Switch Sides] by wiegraf: 4:49pm On Nov 11, 2016 |
DeepSight: I've had a couple of out of body experiences. They were fun, yes, but they were all in my head I don't believe in freewill so all this is moot. And this hypothetical you sounds like a different consciousness, a different being entirely even if sharing some properties, so who knows how that would work? Would you still have the same sort of thought patterns as a spirit? Will you still have the same feelings etc? However, as I am now, I would say maybe? The novelty could wear off |
Re: Does God Exist? [let's Switch Sides] by 4kings: 5:32pm On Nov 11, 2016 |
lordnicklaus:The jewish for example, were portrayed miserable and stubborn in scriptures of their own god, while would sane people dictate ill-will for themselves? I could easily make up a god and call it a god of hail and fire.Sure, a god can be a perceived supernatural being worshiped That does not make it have supernatural powers, its/his actions does. So you can always encounter scams, that does not rule out the existence of supernatural beings. That a god exists should be seen in the fact that it is independent of people's dictatorship.Sure, that's why u are to strive for higher consciousness to know that which the creator desire of you. If we feel that gods created this complex cosmos by only basing our arguments on its incomprehensible complexity, then we must remember that gods are beings of complex nature and this should compel us to question the origin of gods. cc johnydon22 valentinemary 4kingsYou just made valid statements(@bolded), so why do u intend to comprehend the incomprehensible? |
Re: Does God Exist? [let's Switch Sides] by johnydon22(m): 10:01pm On Nov 11, 2016 |
hahn: It was fierce and challenging and very interesting, enjoyed every bit of it.. Here are few pictures.. 1)My argument/rebuttals 2)Answering question from the audience If i lay my hands on the video i will also share [i'm the one on red sweat shirt] Cc. Loj, Lordnicklaus, DeepSight, 4Kings, Shollyps, Kratoss, Wiegraf, HcPaul 2 Likes 1 Share
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Re: Does God Exist? [let's Switch Sides] by hahn(m): 10:10pm On Nov 11, 2016 |
johnydon22: I really want to hear you debate. You should invite me to debate as a non scientist too some day ![]() |
Re: Does God Exist? [let's Switch Sides] by promise10: 10:32pm On Nov 11, 2016 |
ValentineMary:who is the Designer? what do you mean by first Onus? |
Re: Does God Exist? [let's Switch Sides] by promise10: 10:37pm On Nov 11, 2016 |
CoolUsername: what do you mean as God? |
Re: Does God Exist? [let's Switch Sides] by promise10: 10:40pm On Nov 11, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog: what rating would I give this guy Now?? in fact take 9.9/10 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Does God Exist? [let's Switch Sides] by KingEbukasBlog(m): 10:42pm On Nov 11, 2016 |
Re: Does God Exist? [let's Switch Sides] by promise10: 10:48pm On Nov 11, 2016 |
4kings:is this not deceit? I know that it may be discovered. but what do you think in a case where the something is contradicting our currently discovered physical laws like what happenned before big bang. because for it to be discovered in the future, it will be discovered with the basis of the laws we have now. now, how do you think that for example what happened before big bang will be Discovered by a basic contradicting scientific law? 3 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Does God Exist? [let's Switch Sides] by promise10: 10:53pm On Nov 11, 2016 |
sonmvayina:oh I thought you said Jesus. abeg just swerve Biko. |
Re: Does God Exist? [let's Switch Sides] by johnydon22(m): 10:54pm On Nov 11, 2016 |
hahn: Maybe one day 1 Like 1 Share
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Re: Does God Exist? [let's Switch Sides] by hahn(m): 11:05pm On Nov 11, 2016 |
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Re: Does God Exist? [let's Switch Sides] by promise10: 11:07pm On Nov 11, 2016 |
taurus25:it depends what my fellow atheists believe as God. a sky Daddy? definitely Not! simply put, an intelligent Designer? it makes more sense to say it came from an intelligent designer. but, it is so ridiculous to say it came by chance like my bros @lennycool who claimed that snowflakes are codes. but anyway, for me, i don't want to believe in any form of God. I will go by believing it came by chance. In @lennycool voice, DNA, brain is not even intelligently designed, because it is not perfect. snowflakes is more like designed than DNA. go google and educate yourself! in @hcpaul, sanity proves that imperfection disproves intelligent designing. the fact that facebook is a product of intelligent designing, it must be perfect in all round. (whisper) is facebook still hackable? never mind, kudos to sanity! 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Does God Exist? [let's Switch Sides] by hahn(m): 11:07pm On Nov 11, 2016 |
johnydon22: Send the video soon o. Aren't you guys gonna upload on youtube? |
Re: Does God Exist? [let's Switch Sides] by promise10: 11:13pm On Nov 11, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog:you know why? atheism is the most confused set of people. atheism is based on personal understanding and convictions. some of them have many ridiculous beliefs. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Does God Exist? [let's Switch Sides] by johnydon22(m): 11:16pm On Nov 11, 2016 |
hahn:I believe so, i am not the host just got an invitation to debate hahn: ![]() ![]() ![]() 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Does God Exist? [let's Switch Sides] by promise10: 11:18pm On Nov 11, 2016 |
DeepSight:this is what happens to kids who wants God to be tested with specimens and chemicals as a proof of his existence. even Hahn said one time that he would believe in God, if God will come down and come to his house, knock at the door and tell him "I am god! ". you see how ridiculous it sounds? |
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