Foxyn:
Op am hoping to join you soon

just exactly the same problem am facing

mine is even worst, he lied and deceived me which still hurts till now.
shebi numbers 23:19 talk say our God no dey lie?

not to talk of Mathew 7:7-11 lol

no wonder Kendrick Lamar said in his new album that "God is one funny moda'facka, though we still gotta love and trust him"

I'm seriously angry with him now that I've decide not to put my trust in him anymore

until he let's me see the reason he didn't do as he said.

I can't put my hope on something that lies

let his words in the bible judge him

I'm out..

bizme:
It wasn't the Church service of today that made me decide.
It was rather several pieces of disappointment and dashed expectations that forced me to make up my mind today.

Following my conversion years ago, I had spent a substantial part of my youthful life in the service of God. No amount of discouragement from my Dad and peers would slow me down in the pursuit of the love and service of God my Father. At a point I had approached my parents that I was considering opting for pastoral school instead of University admission. I had at the time been offered an admission into one of the leading federal universities in the country. Eventually my dad's voice of reason prevailed and I went to University. In University, I lived and conducted myself as a man whose singular hope and passion was the pursuit of God, roving from villages to villages every week, preaching and pastoring village churches. Away from the demands of my studentship.

But in the real world, the popular promise that God always has my back has been no more than a sale's man's quip which is often far from the reality on ground. I have asked fellow Christians questions, but they have failed to provide me with answers that don't refer me back to the usual call to patience and perseverance. If I do not enjoy God's promises in the time of my youth, what then is the point? What is the point in repetitively making the same requests for years without answer from God?

I consulted widely, reading books and studying other peoples' experiences and I have come to this conclusion: that I am on my own in this world. That God probably finished His part when He created me; that the entirety of my fate and experience will hereafter depend on me and my societal factors. That all the praying and singing and clapping in the church are no more than a desperate attempt for most of us to believe in a God who has got no better job than bailing us out of our miseries...

Well, it has been years now and He hasn't bailed me out. My life, the experiences of it, has not been any better than that of those who have refused to acknowledge God or to serve Him. Henceforth, I'm going to turn my time and attention to more product things than church attendance. My woman isn't going to like this, but I feel like a fraud sitting there in Church today and refusing to say the prayers since all those I had said these past years don't seem to have been answered.

This is no feast for atheists. I don't have enough faith to be one. This is simply my step of courage to step outside profitless religion into personal effort to take my own matters into my own hands. And you don't have to agree with my conclusions, if you look at it carefully you will realize that I have no obligation to live my life based on others' experiences. Just mine.

asuustrike2009:

I just smile at you. If some of us share our experience, you would be grateful to Yahweh for keeping you. Probably you don't know why certain answers aren't coming but it's for your own good.

CHARLOE:

What do u 1 2 tell me? Cutting of hand is metaphorical n d 2nd part of d sentence that talks bout hell is literal abi. So who's to decide what is metaphorical n what is literal?
Guy, understand something, some of us did more than u guys are doing now, we carry d matter for head like kilode!
Until we started asking questions n kicked out fear; fear of questioning d bible, fear of hell etc. And curbed our greed n gullibility. Sweet words don't move me, only d truth doesdoes.

Foxyn:
I won't say anything because you just concluded that your God doesn't lie to you. in this case, you may not know how we he has lied to feels.

one common thing with Christians is that every good thing that comes their way they always refer it to be from God while the bad things are always from Satan lol

maybe you haven't had a very big problem that you need God's help urgently and then he turn deaf ears and fail you..

till then, cos even if I argue now.. you won't still understand and accept my own fact.

But one thing is for sure, God isn't as merciful and loving has y'all paint him to be

forget the fact that you are alive


even pastors always die in car accidents..

so for you to be alive today is what I call being LUCKY

not because of anything related to God's mercies or sh*t

frank317:


If he does not know why certain answers are not coming then how do u expect him to react to what he does not know.

Having a good or bad experience in life does not have anything to do with God. Thanking an imaginary being for random things happening to u is silly.

What experience do u have to share that would make him grateful to God for keeping him? Does it imply that Yahweh is fair to him than u? Why do you think that Yahweh is treating him better than u? Why do you sound comfortable with that?

asuustrike2009:

Probably when he experience near death he would understand better.

frank317:


What had near death experience got to do with God?

azaino:

I now see your problem, it your understanding of the word that matters, you were nurturing fear of hell instead of love and happiness for what we have and who we are in Christ. A friend of mine got angry with God and felt cheated because of what the pastor told him, that if he gives all his money in his pocket in the offering box on Sunday, that God will surprise him on Monday, that he will get more money. this is wrong and fraudulent teachings. brother you need to start all over again. Most teachings of Christ was parable, you need understanding to understand it.

azaino:


Most of your comments are centered on what you wanna get from God, and how he didn't answer when you needed him. Have you read the Bible yourself bro,.
You lack understanding, but believe me , you will still come back to God cos God loves you more than you can imagine. I was fed many things by church leaders concerning God, in the process I was defrauded by the church leaders/pastors and not by God, because I was digesting whatever they fed me without delay. until I read the bible myself, on my own, God revealed himself and true nature to me. people get defrauded cos of greed for material thing. for example Many have denounced God because of tithe doctrine,

asuustrike2009:

What would a married couple of 30 years without children say? This life is turn by turn. That it's working well for mr a, miss b doesn't mean it will end well for them. They might die during the process. Be grateful to Yahweh for sparing your life because he can take it anytime

otemdomino:
The only thing that cannot be created or destroyed is energy. It's science that discover energy and the sum total of all energies in the world is part of God. God does not have to be a he or she.

GloriaNinja:
COULDN'T YOU HAVE MADE YOUR COCK AND BULL STORY BRIEF?

bizme:
It wasn't the Church service of today that made me decide.
It was rather several pieces of disappointment and dashed expectations that forced me to make up my mind today.

Following my conversion years ago, I had spent a substantial part of my youthful life in the service of God. No amount of discouragement from my Dad and peers would slow me down in the pursuit of the love and service of God my Father. At a point I had approached my parents that I was considering opting for pastoral school instead of University admission. I had at the time been offered an admission into one of the leading federal universities in the country. Eventually my dad's voice of reason prevailed and I went to University. In University, I lived and conducted myself as a man whose singular hope and passion was the pursuit of God, roving from villages to villages every week, preaching and pastoring village churches. Away from the demands of my studentship.

But in the real world, the popular promise that God always has my back has been no more than a sale's man's quip which is often far from the reality on ground. I have asked fellow Christians questions, but they have failed to provide me with answers that don't refer me back to the usual call to patience and perseverance. If I do not enjoy God's promises in the time of my youth, what then is the point? What is the point in repetitively making the same requests for years without answer from God?

I consulted widely, reading books and studying other peoples' experiences and I have come to this conclusion: that I am on my own in this world. That God probably finished His part when He created me; that the entirety of my fate and experience will hereafter depend on me and my societal factors. That all the praying and singing and clapping in the church are no more than a desperate attempt for most of us to believe in a God who has got no better job than bailing us out of our miseries...

Well, it has been years now and He hasn't bailed me out. My life, the experiences of it, has not been any better than that of those who have refused to acknowledge God or to serve Him. Henceforth, I'm going to turn my time and attention to more product things than church attendance. My woman isn't going to like this, but I feel like a fraud sitting there in Church today and refusing to say the prayers since all those I had said these past years don't seem to have been answered.

This is no feast for atheists. I don't have enough faith to be one. This is simply my step of courage to step outside profitless religion into personal effort to take my own matters into my own hands. And you don't have to agree with my conclusions, if you look at it carefully you will realize that I have no obligation to live my life based on others' experiences. Just mine.

Foxyn:
baba, all those things were just meant to happen.

if God is merciful as you say he is. he wouldn't allow a married couple to live for a whole 30 years before having a child

you check am na

or you no sabi wetin "Mercy" mean for dictionary again?

God merciful? lol. if I hear

asuustrike2009:

Yahweh is still merciful if not by now someone would be six feet below the ground for wailing.

now here you talking senselessly, do you know how many God serving servants die every second? why don't his mercy save them? have you ask yourself why good people die more than the bad ones? is it that God loves the bad people? or is his mercy meant only for the bad people? baba use your sense na .. na 21st century be this abeg... okay, lets do it like this.. go to where ritualists are. surrender yourself to them and let me see how your meciful God will deliver your head from being decapitated. because you are alive doesnt mean God's mercy is upon you.. you are just alive because your time hasn't come. so stop typing nonsense here

Being the case of that couple, there are some factors responsible for such delay. They include
1.Not praying enough or praying amist

So prayer now has a certain amount of time one can pray before your merciful God hears? or are you insinuating that short prayers can't be answered?

2.Sin which is the tool of the devil

What sin delayed Abraham's blessing from getting a child at his early age?



3.Test of faith has Yahweh tested Abraham
Some of these factors maybe responsible.

God is all knowing, he would've known the end result for testing Abraham, so why did he still suffer himself to test him and delay his blessing from coming early? thou merciful God

However Yahweh's way isn't our way. His thought are not our thoughts that's why it's difficult for man to understand or comprehend certain things that happens. This is were seeking spiritual help comes in and not quitting. Quitting the fight makes Satan laugh at you. If one can't give up on achieving certain things in life for example trying to pass your exams no matter how difficult, why would one do that now. In life you Pray Until Something Happens


so when God is wrong I shouldn't question him abi? so that Satan will not laugh at me shey? you want me to keep quite and act like a mumu ... hmm you sabi sometin no be small

petra1:



Very stupid story .It's either you're lying against God or you're very ignorant .
If you're sincere you should rather be asking questions here than talking God down

asuustrike2009:

Yahweh is still merciful if not by now someone would be six feet below the ground for wailing. Being the case of that couple, there are some factors responsible for such delay. They include
1.Not praying enough or praying amist
2.Sin which is the tool of the devil
3.Test of faith has Yahweh tested Abraham
Some of these factors maybe responsible. However Yahweh's way isn't our way. His thought are not our thoughts that's why it's difficult for man to understand or comprehend certain things that happens. This is were seeking spiritual help comes in and not quitting. Quitting the fight makes Satan laugh at you. If one can't give up on achieving certain things in life for example trying to pass your exams no matter how difficult, why would one do that now. In life you Pray Until Something Happens (PUSH)

frank317:


Lol @ bold implies our Yahweh s not merciful to people who are already six foot below the ground.

asuustrike2009:

You case is beyond repair. Did you read the body of the work at all? I said Yahweh is merciful if not op and others would have been dead. If he was to apply Mosaic law, for wailing alone amount to death

Foxyn:
there are millions of people praying to die at their young age because of how the world is treating them.

I would've done the same also but I just gotta stay and make my mum happy


because I won't want to see her cry

gotta make her reap the fruit of her labour

apart from that? lol, would've taken my life long ago

there's nothing to enjoy in this world

frank317:


It still doesn't make sense. Good people and bad people die. Death is natural occurrence and everybody must die even u.
Why would Yahweh kill anybody for wailing? All the good people that have died, did they wail.
I still see no connection between this thread and six foot under the ground

asuustrike2009:

Of course he did but that was in the pass. There's a correlation of six feet under the ground because the bad tend to live longer than the good

urheme:








You are indeed a candidate for God's power.....when the world doesn't make sense to you is when God actually finds sense in you.
I pray that the power of God locate you soon.

asuustrike2009:

YOU: Yahweh hates murmuring that's he didn't many of the Israelites to to get to the promise land. Those persons dying aren't Yahweh's fault.

ME: so why were you using the word "Death" to make it look like only bad people pass through it? like God's mercy wasn't sufficient to them? lol you self [b/]

YOU: Don't forget this world is temporary so don't you think it's better they leave the world and make heaven than live longer and commit more sins?

ME: [b] now you talking another thing entirely here.. nawa for you self

YOU: There's a time for everything, time to laugh and a time to cry. Time to born and time to die. Yahweh gives the wicked grace to repent because after death comes judgement of which no mercy is given.

ME: hahahaha, this man is high! so God gives the wicked grace to live? why doesn't he use this grace to save the righteous ones that dies through his mercies?

YOU: they can have At that stage, his mercy ceases only on earth would man experience mercy.

legendary16:
OP I'll advice you better not to take that step you're thinking cause if you do you eventually will regret just like I am now, even to an extreme extent.

hopefulLandlord:


you need to explain further so that OP can be convinced cuz what you just wrote is purely anecdotal