WinningSun:


are you a member of the band wagon effect. any die na die.

no wonder many married women are not happy.

Ah...Nairaland guys say we are pretending and we must marry any guy we see. So, we would do just that.

In this life, inasmuchas we have choice but sometimes our choice do not alwayz com to pass.....in the beginning, Robust lady (Orobo) waz my choice as future wife. When i got one, barriers sprang up......Religous barrier, tribal barrier, Genotype barrier. We had to part ways.

Alas i had to settle for an average lady cos time no longer on ma side......

Last month, it was on the shocial media about a lady who crave to marry tall guyz but finally marry a Short man.
It is good we look forward to gettin married to a degree holder But remember, as you hope for the best, Expect the worse

Even with their so-called Bsc, those mouthing like mouse here still will offer their bodies and souls to work for those who have money but without their much worshiped bsc for which they also became runs girls and even slept with lecturers and students to get. Certificate without common sense!

I am a trained carpenter, my lovely wife is a degree holder from a somewhat wealthy family and a senior staff in her department.We have been going on strong for 10years.When she took me to her momma, it seemed she was seeing a horror film, but after 3 years of marriage her mom and Dad though they are late,They knew i am not a push over
The fact with me, i am a firecracker,boom hearts melt, boom the weak are made stronger

Wow! This is a very nice topic. In fact, it is actually good and helpful to me.
I do not possess any university degree, I have dropped out from now fewer than three(3) reputable institutions in this country due to financial constraint.
I wanted to obtain a university degree and I tried all I could, but all my effort proved abortive. My mother is poor, my father had died long time ago, I had to fend for myself. So, it is not my fault that I do not have a BSC or its equivalent degree.
Why then am I unsuitable to marry a degree holder, why can't I marry a wife who possess a university degree?
Is BSC degree a prominent criteria in marriage?

WinningSun:


like I always tell ladies don't ever lower your standard.

Do ladies have standard where there is money?

Peachess:
No, fucking way, I can't do that. You don't expect me to go through the stress of getting a degree, then settling with someone lesser than I am. The truth is, there's always going to be jealousy and so many annoying shit like that. I want someone that reasons better than me, that I can have a reasonable conversation with. Most educated people can't even have a reasonable conversation not to talk of a school dropout.

i havent seen the 4 walls of a university but i reason better than you if am to judge with this post

Dasherz:

I disagree with you

there are so many non graduates out there with a better sense of judgement on handling life's issues and even some professional issues that a graduate will fail woefully at. getting an education is just to give you a sharper edge in you chosen field not to make you intelligent or wiser than the next person

[b]real education is that which sharpens your mind and views[/b]not the one you sit in class and struggle through courses to be given one sheet of paper for ya effort that's just formality

U r entitled to your opinion just as I have made mine known as well. That bn said, a graduate still has an edge over a non graduate. Dats indubitable.

khalhokage:
The richest men in the world today are mostly either dropouts or never went to a higher institution.

Bill Gates, Mark Zuckerberg, Steve Jobs three of the greatest programming minds of our generation are all dropouts.

People need to know that there's a difference between knowledge and intelligence.

Only a third of the richest men in the world are drop outs.
Less than 12% of US Forbes Billionaires are drop outs.
The remaining are all educated with over 35% being graduates of elite schools.

Over 40% of US leaders are also graduates of elite schools.
And a very minute percentage are drop outs.

The facts are on the internet.

Drop outs of Havard...
Programmers with lots of certifications you can't attempt in your life. Yet you chose to call them 'drop outs'...issokay!

pocohantas:


But as a potential degree holder, are you dumb as fvck?


I am beginning to think that's what majority of them did, with the way they are bringing up that analogy.

Have read some of your comments and I can deduce you aren't intelligent. No offense.

yeyerolling:
so what we have in nigeria is education u call la cram la pour education hahahahahaha. what advancement or breakthroughs have we made compared to SA or egyptian unis

Guy, wetin you dey yarn again. The babe has said her mind honestly, why not move on...which one bring comparism with egytian and SA unis here. Going to uni alone adds value to your thinking except you are dull. So forget the issue of advancement and breakthroughs. Which ones have you heard from those universities too?? She cant marry someone without a degree, better still an illiterate.

Michael004:
Have read some of your comments and I can deduce you aren't I telligent. No offense.

Einstein...come and dash me some intelligence na.
Plssssss :-

Respect55:

U r entitled to your opinion just as I have made mine known as well. That bn said, a graduate still has an edge over a non graduate. Dats indubitable.

They should all drop out first, then I will take them serious...

HRHQueenPhil:


Thank you, dat is why i cant marry a person with such mentality, u av ur preference and i have mine. this country is in dire need of educated people. the people u are mentioning , many of dem accumulated wealth due to connection with rich people. so mentioning them makes me pity you.

This country is not in need of any more educated people, just more enlightened people, Nigeria has such a large number of educated people around the world that passed through the walls of higher institutions without gaining any useful knowledge.

The majority of our leaders in this country are degree holders, but we're still in this mess, what we need are intelligent and compassionate people.

An idiot will remain an idiot educated or not.

It's like an acquaintance of mine, This guy has a very very good memory, so school work is a breeze, but he lives on weed, always makes stupid decisions and has a ignorant world view, education can't help such a person.


You should change your mindset and be more open minded, education can never be the measure of a man, because we have Youth corpers in this country calling themselves corpses and wishing heart attack on themselves because basic English spelling eluded them.

crixuss:


Stop painting flawed analogies. They make your argument very unconvincing. Discriminating against blind or cripple women when choosing a partner isn't the same as discriminating against people who don't have degrees. They aren't the same thing.

The analogies are not in any way flawed.
Individuals have preferences and they have the right to pursue them.
There are people who can't marry a police officer for the
reasons best known to them, they are not wrong for their
choice, the same way you are free to like or dislike a certain group
of people.

My focus on tech experts is to illustrate to you how you are drawing a false equivalence between education and having a degree. A degree is merely a written statement that one has acquired knowledge or skill in a certain area. Now if one doesn't have that written statement, it doesn't mean he or she hasn't acquired such knowledge or skill.

I think you are being a literalist. If I say that ex-convicts have at one time
done something wrong and I don't want to have anything to do with them,
it doesn't mean that there aren't some tiny percentage of them are actually innocent.
Degree holder in this context can be taken to mean educated. Please note that
intelligence and education are not the same. There are intelligent uneducated
men and there are also educated men with below-average intelligence.
A college educated man is more exposed and has a progressive life experience than
an average non-degree holder. It doesn't matter if there are some unicorn
non-degree holders that are very educated, after all, there is hardly
anything in life that is absolute.

But your discrimination on the basis of having or not having a degree excludes people who might have education in a particular field, but without the written statement. Like there are lots of courses today that can be self thought. Take for instance a course like history. What's the difference between someone who decided to study history on his own and someone who spent four years in the university studying history? At the end of the day what matters is the knowledge gathered and the person's ability to retain that knowledge and apply it.

There is a clear difference between someone who studies history at the university and the
unicorn who studied history on its own. The former acquired more than just knowledge, he
gained different perspectives, absorb various ideas and learned different cultures from student-student
interactions and lecturer-students interactions.
Finally, he isn't just someone who studied history but one who has been certified by intelligent
people that he actually understood what he studied.

You should understand that there are different categories of non-degree holders just as there are different categories of degree holders. There are non degree holders who are inarticulate, uninformed and without any marketable skills, while there are those that are smart, informed and "educated in various marketable fields."

The overwhelming majority of non-degree holders can't hold a meaningful
non-mundane conversation with their educated counterpart. To avoid
frustration or suspicion, it is advisable that one dates within their class(whatever
it means to an individual). It is bad advice to consider every group because
some outliers might exist in a non-desired group even if one could miss out
on some rare gems.

But the problem is that you are painting them all with a single brush. You aren't even considering the SSCE holders who were smart enough to gain admission into good schools but dropped out along the way. You don't box everyone into the same category.

Sound generalizations are useful human tools, without it, we would be paralyzed in our
decision-making process due to too many choices.

Being a degree holder is a non-issue since most people won't start discussing academic thesis in their
first meeting. It is easy for an educated person to weed out the uneducated(degree or non-degree
holding) from a few minute interaction. I am not aware of anyone wearing a "degree" badge
on their head so it isn't even part of a first impression.

crixuss:


There are lots of people without university degrees that are smarter and more informed than majority of people with degrees. I mean no disrespect but there are people even here in Nigeria without degrees whose level of thinking are way above yours. And deciding to judge someone's intelligence or way of thinking based on the ownership of a degree is quite naive. Mark Zuckerburg doesn't own a degree. Steve Jobs didn't own a degree. Lot of the brilliant tech guys working in silicon valley don't have degrees. In fact 35% of the world's billionaires don't have a degree. Degrees are really over rated and given the present financial climate and market dynamics of today's society, I wouldn't classify anyone who decides not to have a degree as unwise.

Ifeanyi Ubah, innoson, coscharis (cosmos maduka), indimi Mohammed, Mohammed buhari, atiku abubakar, olusegun obasanjo, Mikel John Obi, kanu nwankwo, Austin okocha, Mark Zuckerberg, Bill gate, Steve Jobs and so so many others. What matters most is the iq and self discipline.
I've got an uncle that is so intelligent that ull find it difficult to be believed he stopped at jss3, till date, I find it hard to believe.
He's too intelligent for u to believe such.

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MaritzaNL:
These folks you are calling up and down are in a civilized society, they are in developed country where they learn worthy skills without a degree and are very fluent in English, the non degree holders here mostly can't even make a correct sentence, most of them. So I wouldn't want to be in a situation where I will keep correcting someone's grammatical errors and blunders, thereby making me feel embarrassed and ruining my image which means a lot to me. Also why I said our thinking level won't be the same is because most of these non-degree holders perceive you as acting or feeling big because you have a degree and they don't, I don't know if you are getting my point, you can't give him your opinion or advice as a husband without him saying "Is it because I didn't go to school" or reminding you of him not being a graduate, there is this inferiority complex they carry around , I'm not cut out for that shiit.

Also I never made mention of one having a degree will make him automatically smart, going to school or being in school is a guide not really what makes you smart.

[/s]

oga ade all this nah trash are you telling seun grow up in civilized country? abi no be this same nairaland platform he dey make his money?

pocohantas:


Only a third of the richest men in the world are drop outs.
Less than 12% of US Forbes Billionaires are drop outs.
The remaining are all educated with over 35% being graduates of elite schools.

Over 40% of US leaders are also graduates of elite schools.
And a very minute percentage are drop outs.

The facts are on the internet.

Drop outs of Havard...
Programmers with lots of certifications you can't attempt in your life. Yet you chose to call them 'drop outs'...issokay!

They are dropouts, they never graduated that's who a dropout is, they were intelligent enough to know when formal education had nothing more to offer them.

HRHQueenPhil:


Thank you, dat is why i cant marry a person with such mentality, u av ur preference and i have mine. this country is in dire need of educated people. the people u are mentioning , many of dem accumulated wealth due to connection with rich people. so mentioning them makes me pity you.

Away from the topic, the country is more in dire need of sensible and reasonable people than educated people. There are enough graduates though we need more too. Many of the leaders are educated even with foreign degrees but they behave like animals. An uneducated but reasonable person that has opportunity of being exposed will be eager to plant the comforts of life he's been exposed to in a foreign land into his own country, at least to earn a good name.

Your comment really got me cracking. You mean it possible someone to tell that to god?n

phintohlar:
Why not, i know weda na me tell God when i dey come world say na ssce holder i wan marry. Sanyeri (a yoruba actor) isn't educated but married a unilag graduate.

khalhokage:


They are dropouts, they never graduated that's who a dropout is, they were intelligent enough to know when formal education had nothing more to offer them.

Where did they learn the programming and take its examinations?

All these people sef, so degree is now necessary in marriage? Make I hear word with all these online pretenders...

khalhokage:


This country is not in need of any more educated people, just more enlightened people, Nigeria has such a large number of educated people around the world that passed through the walls of higher institutions without gaining any useful knowledge.

We need more educated people, you seem to be confusing being a student and being
educated. At least 50% of our uni students have no business being in college in the
first place.

The majority of our leaders in this country are degree holders, but we're still in this mess, what we need are intelligent and compassionate people.

Intelligence without education is useless when it comes to solving
modern problems. Nigeria's mess is as a result of a complacent
uneducated population who are easily fooled

An idiot will remain an idiot educated or not.

Any educated person cannot be an idiot.

It's like an acquaintance of mine, This guy has a very very good memory, so school work is a breeze, but he lives on weed, always makes stupid decisions and has a ignorant world view, education can't help such a person.

He is just a degree hustler like many Nigerians who have no business
in tertiary institutions. Education can help anybody!

You should change your mindset and be more open minded, education can never be the measure of a man, because we have Youth corpers in this country calling themselves corpses and wishing heart attack on themselves because basic English spelling eluded them.

Education is a valid measure of a persons' class, thinking style and worldview.
I determine a person's level of education from their conducts since
nobody people don't inscribe "degree" on their forehead.

Michael004:
Do ladies have standard where there is money?

yes they do. they are only managing them.

Obasanjo had to marry stella so that Iya Iyabo would not embarass him

pocohantas:


Einstein...come and dash me some intelligence na.
Plssssss :-


They should all drop out first, then I will take them serious...

Go and read about Thomas Edison. Then you will realise you are as dumb as your overrated certificate.

SEXONLY:
Your comment really got me cracking. You mean it possible someone to tell that to god?n

yes ke, everything we do or become has been written.. It is called destiny

I know a female PhD holder married to a Secondary school dropout. The woman had a MSc degree before marrying him. The dropout husband is always jealous of the success of the wife. He even gossips his wife with bitterness and hatred to his friends without reservation. The woman started a business for him but he couldn't sustain it. She gave him her car to be using but he damaged it. All repairs, food, e. t. c. is on her. The husband became like a bone in her neck.
I'm afraid that the husband will kill the wife someday.

So back to the question, I really don't think it's wise to marry below your status except the man/woman has proven to be mentally educated without academic education.

pocohantas:


Where did they learn the programming and take its examinations?

WTH? Are they dropouts or not?
The OP asks whether ladies would marry a non-degree holder, you said no, those three are non-degree holders, they're educated but they didn't graduate, they stay for the degree just the knowledge.

Respect55:

U r entitled to your opinion just as I have made mine known as well. That bn said, a graduate still has an edge over a non graduate. Dats indubitable.

if you can clearly point out the "edge" I will agree with you ... what other edge does a graduate have asides being employed in good positions in companies seemingly owned by non graduates

phintohlar:
Why not, i know weda na me tell God when i dey come world say na ssce holder i wan marry. Sanyeri (a yoruba actor) isn't educated but married a unilag graduate.

^^^^^^
The guy went to school and has native
intelligence.

The iconic Larry King of "Larry King Live"
never went to a University, the iconic
Sunny Okosuns never went beyond
primary school but you would never
know because of the quality of education
then and he was very fluent in English
with good diction.

I can give more examples of people
who are primary school or secondary
school graduates, but I'll stop here!

WinningSun:


yes they do. they are only managing them.

Obasanjo had to marry stella so that Iya Iyabo would not embarass him

MaritzaNL:
No, make no mistake, I don't see them as inferior but I just know that his thinking level and mine won't be the same.

As how ma'am, care to expantiate on what you typed up there?!

Michael004:
Go and read about Thomas Edison. Then you will realise you are as dumb as your overrated certificate.

Come dash me sense na.
Intelligent people that throw about insults. Is this how you intelligent people discuss? I rather be dumb

Tell me, where do you fall? The ones with/out 'overrated certificate'? I wanna know what to blame you rude nature on. Lack of education or substandard education. Which is it?