[quote author=2buffagain post=72853307]Ladies and Gentlemen in Naija, I'll be 100 with you...

If you are dating someone and they are trying to migrate to USA with a non-immigrant visa, and they say they are coming back for you....chances are you are better off just freeing them and remaining friends while you face your life where you are.
I bet you neither you nor them knows the challenges that will have to be faced along this road.

Not every US Visa is a migration Visa. There is schooling visa, visiting visa, etc.
And visas are very restrictive about what you can and cannot do, and if you can even be allowed to apply for any other visa.

When a person has at least a green card, that is US permanent residency, and they are on a home run to US citizenship.
A green card means a person has no serious limitation within the US besides voting (you can do that when you become a citizen).
It is also at this GreenCard level that your trans-atlantic lover can BEGIN the process of sending for you.

But the road to a green card is long and uneasy if you didn't win a US diversity lottery..
Seeing as Nigeria is one of the countries banned from the Us Visa lottery (a program whereby people gamble to win a US greencard), no Nigerian as at some years back can get a quick GreenCard through that route. They have to go the looooong route.

There are various do-able long paths to the US greencard e.g:
- Naija -> School in US -> OPT -> H1B -> Eb2/Eb3/Eb4 employment based GreenCard
- Naija -> School in US (PHD) -> Lots of exploits -> extra-ordinary person Eb1 GreenCard
- Naija -> Have $500k - $1M to "invest" in the US -> Eb5 Investor Greencard. The higher you spend the more the priority (tief tief agbada types love this one)
- Naija -> marry a US citizen or Greencard holder -> Marriage based Greencard.

_{each '->' sign can mean any where from 2-10 years!}

But all these things have been made longer and even sometimes down right unattainable by Trump.
Now, companies that had once hired people through the H1B won't even look at you unless you have an OPT, which means you have more time to "try to get" an H1B.....which you might still kuku not get.
Also, you need to basically be Elon Musk or Bill Gates before you can come in through the "Extra-ordinary person" route.
If you thought you had money before, Trump wants to raise the $$$ range for investing, so the #BigAgbada will probably have to tief more.

The insults are so bad right now that in the US, Trump is trying to fight their 13th amendment so as to prevent people who visit the US to give birth from having that child become an automatic US citizen.

Now if the UK was your target, it's even worse because Theresa May and her people are mimicking Trump's US anti-immigration agenda to the point of them going further by trying to deport black UK citizens with Caribbean origins(https://www.npr.org/2018/05/02/607652305/caribbean-immigrants-to-u-k-threatened-with-deportation).


The only thing still left open that these rulers have been unable to touch/complicate yet is Greencard by marriage...and this is where we continue our thread from...

Your boo will mostly have to marry someone there....but it's not that simple.
This process also takes SEVERAL years before they get a greencard, trigger a messy divorce, rebuild themselves, before then being able to START sending for you.
However it is important to keep in mind that:
- Marrying someone purely for a greencard is a scam and is thus a very serious punishable offense worthy of deportation and a ban from the US.
- The safest thing, is to simply marry for real, live in the same house, etc.
- Sensible marriageable people can smell a potential marriage scam from a mile away now and don't enter marriage with guys/girls who don't have papers.
- Since the prime marriage prospects avoid you, You'd probably have to pay someone with a complicated life to do the marriage deal with...and these persons are usually crazy in some way...as they would have to be to collect money to marry someone they don't know.
- There is also the risk of the person you are married to taking advantage, asking for more money midway and/or sometimes even cancelling your greencard application...meaning it was all for naught and you'd then have to go back home anyway in failure after all the suffer.

It's a hard long risky road, one that you in Naija may be totally ignorant of.
In fact sometimes one could deduce that if the same amount of time, hussle and abuse-reception to get a greencard was spent building themselves in Naija, they probably would be farther in life themselves with more human dignity.

Nig4Greatness:
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You are over exaggerating your claims sir.YES you can't be successful in the US without papers except success means different thing to you.

Lol I knew he was indirectly quoting me, how do you drive Uber or deliver food without a social security number or driver license.

planetx:
Lol I knew he was indirectly quoting me, how do you drive Uber or deliver food without a social security number or driver license.

Bro, nothing is impossible.

Lawyer777:
60% of Akatas are morally unacceptable by their own community. The ones from the core Ghetto have "zero life". You must run away from them when considering marriage for AOS. It's pathetic when you see them begging on the street in this same land flowing with milk and honey.

How do you know where to invest your time and resources? All you need is their names, address or SSN for a comprehensive background check to get credit history, driver's history, criminal records, education and more. From there, you don't need to be told your next move.

The US is not so hard. I have friends that takes home $200 plus daily driving Uber and delivering food for Grubhub and Doordash even without "Shola". I also have a Doctor friend who left Nigeria four years ago, I can't even calculate his annual salary to avoid unnecessary heartaches.

Life in the US is all about planning and connecting the right people. The people that you interact with every day, whether it's at home, work or on the streets, and their beliefs and opinions influences your beliefs and opinions. There are too many basic IT and Engineering jobs paying 25/hr and still begging for applicants. No one left Nigeria to eat burgers here.

Someone in Nigeria will still tell people in the US that they can't work and be successful without "papers" in the US. It's laughable because the person without the "paper" is actually making dollars as we deliberate here.

Leave people queueing at the embassy/consulate to make their own decision. I took my own decision after holidaying in the US for the fourth time in two years and no regret so far. People make dollars here daily except they choose not to work and it's the reality.

Abeg, make I go hustle small. I get bills to pay for here and Naija.

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I appreciate your write up. Please I am a lawyer in Nigeria and would like to migrate to US. Please what's the ideal type of visa to apply for. I am single with no dependant, not even a girlfriend.

Your advice is anticipated.

Stevengold:


My friend's dad won a visa to The US. He stayed there for eight years leaving his family in Nigeria, but communication was the key , he sent them all sorts of device to make sure he communicates with them regularly via Skype and other video call route, this year he carried his entire family down to US.

They all have green cards and me sef dey hope to visit one day . The man tried. For him to come work Visa for everyone and attain citizenship. No be small matter . I just hope some of our Nigerian men could be like that.

well that's the man palava..

so during the 8 years, the wife was celibate abi.... the man dey cold dey hustle and the wife dey naija dey flex... weh don Sir

GREEN CARD hard oooo
The FASTEST route is MARRIAGE.
But the marriage must be to a reasonable and understanding man or woman.
Avoid Black Americans oooo
They may dump you before your Green Card interview

nextstep:


As if... the guy will be sampling different different types of soup no yawa. May even marry another one to get that card.

any thing the man did there, he did it for the papers..

Buh woman will be here sampling her vjay just for fun

2buffagain:

This is a perfect reason why a married person should be extremely involved in politics at home. You can always vote for new guys like Sowore Donald Duke, etc to get your country moving forward in the right direction as opposed to backwards with those same old thieving clueless failures y’all keep recycling.
But that’s another topic for another thread.
You’re right. It is even more challenging for a married couple. Seeing as I never reach that level, That is why I cannot give advice on that one. UNa wahala senior pass me

May your days be long bro!

I just hope Nigerians can vote for a new person apart from all these old crooks. Mention me when the politics thread is on.... It looks like Nigerians love incompetent leaders...

Stevengold:


My friend's dad won a visa to The US. He stayed there for eight years leaving his family in Nigeria, but communication was the key , he sent them all sorts of device to make sure he communicates with them regularly via Skype and other video call route, this year he carried his entire family down to US.

They all have green cards and me sef dey hope to visit one day . The man tried. For him to come work Visa for everyone and attain citizenship. No be small matter . I just hope some of our Nigerian men could be like that.

We have so many People that did such.
My MUM did likewise for us.
My Mother in Law did likewise as well.
It takes Love and commitment, knowing fully well that one cannot realize his GOD GIVING potentials in Nigeria fully.
AMERICA is one country, one can enter with $30 in his pocket and bottle of groundnut in his hands and returns to Nigeria made for life.
The LAZIEST man in Nigeria can excel in the US.
It’s God’s own country.
U can hate it but the truth is too Glaring.
American Government makes you feel like a HUMAN BEING. Even Animals feel happy.
No STRUGGLING NIGERIAN ever comes in and thinks of going Back to Africa.

Admitwithschola:


You were against absolutes and I agreed with you..But you have made an absolute here..I'm referring to the "you have no business...."

It is actually possible to get partial (not full) tuition waiver and work your way here while you study...I say this because the friend I referred to in my earlier message did this, and a family member did it too..But three bad things fit happen..1) Grades will suffer, 2) The person can overwork and thus destroy their social security records and 3) The person can be frustrated out of schooling..

But in terms of possibility, it's possible. I know so. However, in general, your point holds a lot of water...E go harrrrrrd. The partial funding needs to be close to 100% to increase the possibility of pulling it off.

It is much easier, as you said, if people came to the US fully funded, i.e if dem get tuition waiver plus monthly stipend. Many Nigerians get such opportunity - a lot. Abi me I get am for 2009/2010..Lol.

Please elucidate on overwork and destroying social security.

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Most of what the OP wrote is true but not everyone necessarily has to go through this; For a doctor once you pass your United States Medical Licencing exams you'll be granted a H1b visa with that your spouse can join you. with over 5years of working there you can start the process of your immigrant visa through several pathways beyond the scope of this cbat.
I'll write an article on the USMLE soon

Oogway:
Most of what the OP wrote is true but not everyone necessarily has to go through this; For a doctor once you pass your United States Medical Licencing exams you'll be granted a H1b visa with that your spouse can join you. with over 5years of working there you can start the process of your immigrant visa through several pathways beyond the scope of this cbat.
I'll write an article on the USMLE soon

nice write up, am planing of writing usmle or plab soon, pls am waiting for the article, thanks

with all that has been did here you think officials if the US embassy don't visit nairaland to learn your migratory strategies? bunch of knuckleheads

morningstar55:
You open a nice thread like this...only to spoil with it politics

Las las ...everything comes down to politics.

Policies of politicians affects your life positively or otherwise. You can't avoid mentioning it

JoseVanMoyes:



well that's the man palava..

so during the 8 years, the wife was celibate abi.... the man dey cold dey hustle and the wife dey naija dey flex... weh don Sir

was the man also celibate for the 8yrs...

luminouz:
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Everyone wan japaaaaa!

Prestigewins:


I concur with you ,never date a loser ,even many Nigeria couples are shameless , if you are married in Nigeria why not think of migrating the right way, how can I be married n allow my husband sleep with a woman for ordinary green card. That you can get through studies n hard work and they are other develop ed countries you can migrate to. This advice of op is for losers not for people dating a sound person , Education is one of the best route ,apply for scholarships, get graduate funding and bring your patners even uk allow dependents to work on student visas (msc,PhD route) . Finding love is not easy and don't throw it away for a USA hustle ,you don't know the future ,many Nigeria live in the present ,ask yourself in the next 20 ,30,40,50 years how happy will you be with the decisions you take today. Please someone like me that loves stable family can never involve myself with this.Even with his green card am not interested in such history about a person. Believe there is a God that can help you genuinely, have a vision and watch yourself succeed the right way that will give you peace . SHALOM

I like this guy.. made so much sense

True Talk

Make you all pack up go Yankee, we go dey still dey here, my bottom line is going to those countries to study, Health care( God forbid) or vacation but anything else is a No no!!.


And am the kind of person who thinks if you wanna do something, do it honestly, so even if I end up marrying a woman , we are stuck together 4ever till she cheats on me or decided to leave on her own . So I must not marry because of any gain. visa or otherwise.


I really don't need to be filthy rich in my life, Just content, neither poor nor rich. Make I enjoy this temporary world surrounded with close friends & relatives both those that like & dislike me . After all the highest a man can live Na 10 to 15 decades. Let's make d remaining ones count

JoseVanMoyes:


How can a man leave his legally married wife, go abroad and spend years there hoping to settle down and bring the wife over...

Hmmmmm me I fit not do that one Ooooo... U go dey suffer for cold, ur wife dey naija dey jump on dicks with ya sweat..

Oga if I leave naija, we done for good...

Was gbayi......���

Oogway:
Most of what the OP wrote is true but not everyone necessarily has to go through this; For a doctor once you pass your United States Medical Licencing exams you'll be granted a H1b visa with that your spouse can join you. with over 5years of working there you can start the process of your immigrant visa through several pathways beyond the scope of this cbat.
I'll write an article on the USMLE soon

What about a Registered Nurse?

doyinbaby:
was the man also celibate for the 8yrs...

Any thing the man did, was done just for the money..

if he fvcks any pussy, he did it to cure cold so that he can be healthy to hustle for more money...

if he married a whyte, he did it for the papers...

Buh woman wey dey naija dey chop Dickson, what's her reason

JoseVanMoyes:


Any thing the man did, was done just for the money..

if he fvcks any pussy, he did it to cure cold so that he can be healthy to hustle for more money...

if he married a whyte, he did it for the papers...

Buh woman wey dey naija dey chop Dickson, what's her reason

I will rather Me and my future husband stay in Nigeria and manage than for me to let him embark on a journey where he will be sleeping with all sorts of women just because we sha want American green card by all means

JoseVanMoyes:



well that's the man palava..

so during the 8 years, the wife was celibate abi.... the man dey cold dey hustle and the wife dey naija dey flex... weh don Sir

The woman was faithful, funny enough she was a deaconess in her church, I'm not defending totally but the fact still remains that the man built a better life for them. And they're all happy in the end. Patience is key. Imagine if the woman wasn't faithful The man would have had a rethink on preparing a Visa for her.

gaby:


God bless you real good for taking out time on this. You could easily pass for an immigration lawyer.

Impressive work and spot on to the zeee.

I sanction and whole heartedly concur with your submission.

Nothing but the whole truth.

Those in favour say ayeee....

The ayes always have it

Post passed for how not to migrate. Other ways not to migrate is on my siggy

Nice one, you're back. Make mod dey tamper justice with mercy going forward.

EVILFOREST:

We have so many People that did such.
My MUM did likewise for us.
My Mother in Law did likewise as well.
It takes Love and commitment, knowing fully well that one cannot realize his GOD GIVING potentials in Nigeria fully.
AMERICA is one country, one can enter with $30 in his pocket and bottle of groundnut in his hands and returns to Nigeria made for life.
The LAZIEST man in Nigeria can excel in the US.
It’s God’s own country.
U can hate it but the truth is too Glaring.
American Government makes you feel like a HUMAN BEING. Even Animals feel happy.
No STRUGGLING NIGERIAN ever comes in and thinks of going Back to Africa.

That's why we could kill to get that ViSA

What makes you think with time Canada and those countries you mentioned won’t have more strict immigrants laws. The problem is most blacks don’t add value. I don’t want to think it’s a cursed race. They don’t ever get things right. Give some an opportunity and they mess it up. You go to another man’s country and there you are misbehaving and making it tough for other people with genuine interest. As long as ISREAL isn’t tolerating blacks, with time other countries will follow.

1Sharon:



We don't do business with akata!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybfv_17pyGo

What happens to yank stays in yank....