ableguy:


Funny how hypocritical people can be he believed Jesus words to Thomas but won't believe this one again.
Chaii

asalimpo:
@maximus69, janosky,barristter07

Failed Jw prophecies:

1878

1881

1914

1925

1975


strings of failed predictions?

What does the bible say about a false prophet?

Deut. 18:22, "If what a
prophet proclaims in the name of the
LORD does not take place or come true,
that is a message the LORD has not
spoken. That prophet has spoken
presumptuously. Do not be afraid of
him."


if this so called god-appointed organization kept missing d mark in prophecy, is it vital matters theyll b infallible? Unlike failed dates where ppl sold houses,refused to marry,withdrew their kids from school, but lived to nurse d pain from the failure,what happens in issues that r irreversible? After life,hell/heaven? Nobody will b there to say sorry o,we miscalculated. By then,it would b too late.

asalimpo:

You simply dont know what you are talking about.
the kjv is so exact, that where a word or phrase is inserted into the text to clarify the meaning,theyd render it in ITALICS! The kjv was written as a WORD-FOR-WORD translation of the scriptures. it isnt a THOUGHT-FOR-THOUGHT rendition! The kjv was the work of over 150 devout scholars who feared God. Not theologians. Every rendition was checked massively after interpretation.

Majority of the english bibles ARE NOT TR. kjv is the only one ,they maybe one or two more, based on tr.

On He vs God thing, it is grammertically incorrect to say He without antecedent.
1Tim3v7: moreover HE must have a good report of them that are without...
Who is the 'HE' here ? 'HE' here refers to the object referred to in 1tim3v2. A bishop.

What is the antecedent to the He in 1Tim3v16? Who is the He?



Dean Burgon,isnt the inspiration og God's word. His opinion only matters if it doesnt go against the recorded word,which tht TR is.
Dean's burgeon's opinions are irrelevant. Translating the bible from one language (greek) to another doesnt need the input of EXPERTS just knowledge of the source language. If the TR were inconsistent,it would b another issue. But the thousands of collected manuscripts are highly consistent. Highly reliable. So the task simply involves translating to the target language nd moving on.

The other bible versions are based off of very corrupt bible manuscripts. The Wescott nd hort texts. These men were satanists and didnt think the bible was really God's inspired word. The worked off non TR texts and your so called douey version springs from their works.

If the word were really HE in the TR then the translator of other TR based versions at one point would have translated differently. But they all unanimously use the same word GOD, which isnt a coincidence because that is what is in the text not HE!

If on the other Hand it really is HE in the verses two things couldav happened:
some would hav translated it, Christ,others would have translated it God. Few would have left it in it's grammertical INCORRECT form of using a pronoun without antecedent WHICH IS RUBBISH. You dont use a pronoun WITHOUT ANTECEDENT it's grammertically unsound and incorrect

Maximus69:
It's our problem not yours Sir!
So go and serve your God that's anticipating eternal torment for those who hate him. Our own God said we must LOVE those who hate us and if they refuse to change THEY WILL DIE as in NONEXISTENCE! Therefore your folks and our own are on parallel lines that can never meet[Luke 16:26] go and preach your God to your neighbours because we're ZEALOUSLY doing just that for our own God!

asalimpo:

"if they refuse to change"-
you mean if they refuse to join watchtower? Say it like it is!

why would you like to SLAVE under an organisation of NOTABLE LIARS. Knowing that the devil is the father of liars? The devil is the inspiration behind those failed prophecies. Cant u think? In the bible,you see the phrase ... and it came to pass , ... according to the word of the Lord . But with watchtower it is prophecy failed,try again . You guys hav been failing in prophecy for over 100 years!
Is that something you celebrate?

AGAIN,THE bible says IF A FALSE PROPHET,which d watchtower is according to Deut18v33,is exposed he should b stoned to death. WHY WOULD U WANT TO continue with a FALSE PROPHET rather than obey the bible.


u r ZEALOUSLY being threatened to evangelise. You so under a sense of obligation- doesnt ur door knocking have the threat of annihilation on u if u dont do it? Again,you are so brainscrubbed. Doesnt the bible say that God is not a tyrant that leads his people out of fear?


Your evangelists do their evangelism with no real love/care for the ppl theyre reaching out to. It's all dry mechanical duty. Trying to earn your salvation! Pathetic.

Why dyu try to argue the bible but when one points out to you that you logic is inconsistent with the very bible you uphold- you get into defense mode. Right in ur face,you see the bible refuting ur beliefs yet proudly you cling to ur beliefs! Yet,u claim that u r swayed by the bible alone! Y dyu elevate watchtower over the bible?
Y do u elevate ur beliefs over d bible?

Janosky:

Asalimpo lying Pharisee displaying his talent for falsehood.
In 1tim3:16 and Rev 20:12, the word "God" were dubiously inserted .
English is not the original language of the Bible, any word which does not convey the exact meaning of the original language ,then it's a fraud.
I go dey check both Hebrew & Greek lexicon steady. Make e dey pain U !

*** Your "HE" in 1tim3:16 is your Bishop in v2-v7 ,your brain done corrupt taytay!

** Lying Pharisees have no
proof that Westcott& Hort were satanists. Character assassination indeed.

KJV has many different versions- American KJV ,New KJV,etc .
More than 10 different Bible translations are TR Bibles.
** textusreceptusbibles.com/Translations. (Google" English Translations of the Textus Receptus 1500-1900)
This further shows that Asalimpo is a lying Pharisee.

Common sense tells you that when any word you see in the oldest version of any work is not found in the new copy ,that specific word had been removed and substituted.
TR manuscript can never be more trustworthy than older manuscripts which existed before it.

asalimpo:



Deut. 18:22, "If what a
prophet proclaims in the name of the
LORD does not take place or come true,
that is a message the LORD has not
spoken. That prophet has spoken
presumptuously. Do not be afraid of
him."

dude,i hear you. It is an organization, with the unbeatable record of over a century of failed prophecies that has the key to the TRUTH.
They are THE WAY.
by THE WAY, by how many days off was JESUS resurrection date according to scriptures!
He said 3 days but woke up 33 days later. Right? Then he re-explained to thomas and co that his predictions didnt MEAN 3 LITERAL days. You SEE it's complex! You see any of that NONSENSE in scriptures? But with satanTOWER, it's rife.
Is this the junk you guys say hold the truth?
Keep being brainscrubbed.

Do your research on 1tim3v16 and rev20v12. They are copious verses showing the diety of Christ. So that's not even an issue.
Even if we glance over the corruptions of new age bibles it aint an issue.
Your argumnt using a point i made using 'Bishop' is barren,you hav said nothing. You even understand what i was saying. Go read it again to grasp my view.
The textus receptus is impossible to corrupt. Each manuscript is an independent copy hence corruption of thousands of carefully handcopied manuscript is impossible without massive capital and coordination and would quickly have been exposed. So,sorry,your attacks on the TR,again false flat.
The word He in 1tim3v16, is logically incorrect. And an error. Pronouns point to nouns, which was what i used the bishop analogy to point out. What noun was HE pointing to? Errors in God's word? Go do your checks.

As for wescott nd hort, you r a jjc if u dont know their spiritual depravity. Do ur research.
Satanists forged the line of manuscripts which is today the foundation for non tr bibles.

Janosky:

Hogwash as usual

chiedozie198100:


Adam and Eve disobeyed God, where r they?

those that were wiped out during the flood of noah's time, where r they?

brocab:
Why not pray and ask the Lord yourself-if you are keen enough. just maybe the Lord will explain it to you in Word..
{Luke 16} the poor man laying in Abraham bosom, and across the gulf burning in Hell was the rich man?

chiedozie198100:


so heaven n hell dey share fence?

no be small thing oo.

my dear that story was a parable. don't take it as an event that really happened.

chiedozie198100:


so heaven n hell dey share fence?

no be small thing oo.

my dear that story was a parable. don't take it as an event that really happened.

Maximus69:
NO! I no go gree, Jesus say Lazarus and Richman dey see themsef and the Richman fit follow Lazarus yan from inside the fire! Abeg heaven and hellfire share the same fence biko!
If not absurdity, how would Jesus equip his followers with wisdom to impact knowledge of what people supposed to know,send them to go and deliver the message and at last start going to meet people one by one to force them in order to agree with what they're to grasp easily through the adequate explanation from those he has completely equipped to preach and teach? Just listen to brocab speak 'why not pray and ask the Lord yourself-if you're keen enough.just MAYBE the Lord will explain it to you in word'
So Jesus' disciples are no more competent enough to EXPLAIN what he asked them to go preaching and teaching people!
When i first heard this,i said to myself 'are they still mentally ok?' because if Jesus PERSONAL have to go and explain matters to each prospective believer to convince them,then what is the reason for sending out messangers?
And this same people will be agitating that those who refused to agree with their nonsense and ingredients are LYING!
Jehovah's Witnesses,thank you o!

Maximus69:

Hairyrapunzel:


By the way why are you guys so preoccupied with death of people who don't belong to watchtower organization and accept the 8 old imperfect, uninspired and fallible men leading it as the only channel of communication between God and man today?


The things that are inside your heads no be here. Una no be normal human beings.

chiedozie198100:


so heaven n hell dey share fence?

no be small thing oo.

my dear that story was a parable. don't take it as an event that really happened.

Janosky:

Wayo write up no wonder the wayo man wey copy am no wan give credit to the original author
If u actually studied the Bible you know that Gehenna is the correct word instead of hell at Mark9:48-49

brocab:
Because of Jesus’ symbolic use of Gehenna, the word gehenna is sometimes used as a synonym for hell.
In fact, that’s how the Greek word is translated in {Mark 9:47} “hell.”
The occupants of the lake of fire/gehenna/hell are separated from God for all of eternity.



So you will be separated from God!!

Hairyrapunzel:


So jws now accuse jesus Christ of falsehood? E get wetin una no go do and say to defend your non biblical doctrines? So tey them say Jesus Christ they tell stories when no really happen. Lol

After all you have explained so far do yo know it's only your assumption at the end of the day? Jesus Christ did not intend to do anything you said. You just intended things for Jesus Christ in your head.

Maximus69:
Here they goes again!
Instead of leaving reasonable comments that will help readers,it is judgmental! judgmental!! judgmental!!!
Hey Mr brocab,are you Jesus the one who is to judge

brocab:
{Matthew 7:15-20} “Beware of false JW prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. You will know them by their fruits.
So we judge by your fruit...To be honest your knowledge of the bible is not good-matter of fact you do need to repent, and ask the Lord to forgive you, ask Him to enter into your life, to save you from your sins...

Maximus69:
Before Jesus came to this earth,God created the heavens for himself and angels

Maximus69:
Before Jesus came to this earth,God created the heavens for himself and angels but earth he has given to humans! Psalms 115:16
So Jesus said some will get visas to heaven through baptism by water and spirit! And they are going there for a special purpose.Revelations 20:6
First they must have known the God of Israel by learning all his purposes and learn so much from Jesus[God's son] about how to participate in his government[Isaiah 9:6,Daniel 2:44] that's why Revelation 14:1 says TWO names were WRITTEN on their foreheads! Therefore all ancient servants of God before the coming of Jesus from the beginning are awaiting a resurrection to life here on earth,only few servant AMONG Christians will go and rule with Jesus in heaven!
Jesus and Solomon got their inspiration from the same source so they're not contradicting each other,it is the reader that needs to know that Jesus taught a lot in PARABLES. Matthew 13:10
So for you to fully grasp what he is saying,you must first know God's program from the beginning,what is his plan for righteous people and what he intends to do with practicers of evil. Then you listen to Jesus and draw a conclusion from his PARABLES,otherwise if you concentrate only on Jesus' parables without considering other texts you'll continue to reject what God said from the beginning! Matthew 5:17
Jehovah's Witnesses,thank you o!

Maximus69:
Pause mode Sir!
Remember even if i don't know the Bible i can understand the word FRUIT that it is something all eyes both believers and unbelievers can SEE! So can you just mention the name or description of that FRUIT
Moreover you spoke about sin, so what sin have you SEEN me commited

brocab:
Would you prefer if I call you a lemon, "why" because it's bitter!! And your sin, is, you have chosen to lie, by preaching to us your unbiblical gospel..

Maximus69:
Your problem is lack of intellect!
You're quoting a book that i also could just start quoting against you in the presence of audience. I said SOMETHING visible that a neutral individual could SEE to know that what someone did is evil!
Well for your information you're just ARGUING and your arguments lacks substance as in immaterial!
Say something that all eyes can SEE not just quoting the book that everyone can start quoting to say you don't know a thing from it!

achorladey:

Sorry, I no get answers for your question. Look elsewhere. If you can create a thread of this type you should have answers to that kind of question. Out of curiosity I will like to Isolate the word ''personal''. If a ''kidnapper(A)'' was paid a certain sum of money to release an ''individual(B)'' kidnapped. From your previous post on this thread the (money) automatically becomes the individual's(B) personal Lord and Saviour. Please what will you call the person who paid the Ransom. A. Personals Lords and Saviours, B. Personal Lord and Saviour. You decide!!! If you have a better name for the person please provide.

Maximus69:
Come and See argument oooooooo!
So achorladey and OLAADEGBU aren't on the same page,yet when criticizing Jehovah's Witnesses they can become BROTHERS.
Wonders shall never end!

Maximus69:
Come and See argument oooooooo!
So achorladey and OLAADEGBU aren't on the same page,yet when criticizing Jehovah's Witnesses they can become BROTHERS.
Wonders shall never end!

Maximus69:
It's our problem not yours Sir!
So go and serve your God that's anticipating eternal torment for those who hate him. Our own God said we must LOVE those who hate us and if they refuse to change THEY WILL DIE as in NONEXISTENCE! Therefore your folks and our own are on parallel lines that can never meet[Luke 16:26] go and preach your God to your neighbours because we're ZEALOUSLY doing just that for our own God!

ableguy:

Anytime is Jehovah's witnesses they will gang up even when they are speaking discordant tunes

Maximus69:
achorladey can quote JWs publications against JWs ,so it's obvious he was a former JW and now a Judas behind the scene!
He thought Tatime was just joking calling him a fugitive, it's after i denied him as my brother that i discovered OLAADEGBU and johnw47 also denied him! Now it's so obvious he has no place of rest!