EMILO2STAY:
your not making sense

EMILO2STAY:
are you serious right now. A sphere remains a sphere no matter what is on it microscopic or atomic.

Seems do not even understand the concept of the ball earth you believe in.

If according to ball earth scientist ships disappearing over the horizon is evidence of a ball earth, then tell me why humans standing on the wouldn't know it if they are standing on a ball.

Tell me if you were to be reduced to microscopic size and were to be put standing under a ball, will you not notice that you are standing upside down? Such is the the case for people in australia, they would be walking this earth almost upside down if the earth was round.

EMILO2STAY:
you believe because that is what you were taught not because you know for sure.

WinningEleven:
isaiah 40:22 talks about the glory of Jehovah said.......

".......HE IS THE ONE WHO DWELLS/ENTHROED/SITS ABOVE THE CIRCLE OF THE EARTH"

I've said enough here.

johnydon22:
Exactly. Not surprising that you didn't get that little hilarious analogy.

Your argument seemed to be hinged on to the fact that you or I can't feel the curvature of the earth hence it isn't spherical.

And I used a microscopic organism on a basketball unable to feel the Ball's curvature as the perfect mirror.

I believe you should be getting it. As you said "A sphere remains a sphere, no matter what's on it (whether they are large enough to feel the curvature or not)

Quite possible but less likely.

More likely however, is that you don't.

Because the distance of a horizone is hundreds of kilometers away, far enough for a slight curvature to be observable.

Human size however is what? A hundred and few centimeters tall? About twenty wide? Humans are no bigger than a very tiny microscopic organism in comparison to the size of the earth.

We are like a tardigrade on a basketball (Likely even smaller in comaprison to the earth)

So, how can something so small, feel the curvature on something so big?

I must say that I like the way you think, I love it when people question things without just swallowing them hook line and sinker. Keep it up.

First, in space, there is no such a thing as Up or Down. Your sense of up or down is from your localized gravitational point which is the earth's gravity.

A sphere is symmetrical in every way. Gravity pulls towards the center of the earth not all the way to the other side.

The actual down within a gravitational field is the center of the attraction, in this case the center of the earth not the other side.

So, people in Australia have just as much right to call themselves "up" as people in the Northern Hemisphere do!

But more to the point, the force that keeps everything on the Earth from falling off it is gravity: it's the pull exerted by one object on another because of its mass. For objects like the Earth, the force exerted by the Earth's mass pulls objects in the direction of the Earth's centre. This means that wherever you are on the Earth, the force is always "down" into the ground. That's what keeps everything on Earth "right-side up", even those in Australia!

Up and Down are all a local perspective. For a person in the northern hemisphere, the zenith position in the southern hemisphere seems to be "down". But for a person in the southern hemisphere, zenith is what he/she will call "up". Gravity is always aligned towards the center of the Earth, and so the direction perpendicular to the surface of Earth (at any location on Earth) is what will be referred to as "up" (locally). Hence, everywhere on Earth, a person is still walking "normally" straight up. An analogy is to refer to directions using "right" and "left. Depending on what cardinal direction you are facing, the terms "right" and "left" will differ. What is "right" to one person will be "left" for another (if he were facing the opposite direction). Thus, "right" and "left" are not absolute; they are relative. In the same way, "up" and "down" are also relative and not absolute. Up to a person in the north pole is different from what it means to a person in the equator or in the south pole.

Ola17:


Let me assume you aren’t trolling

We humans like thinking too highly of ourselves. As a user earlier asked, can a microscopic organism on the surface of a standard sized football be able to tell if it is on a round surface? If you have been on an airplane cruising at an altitude of about 35,000 feet above sea level, maybe you would’ve been able to appreciate how very small we humans actually are in relation to the earth.

The truth of a round/spherical earth will make much more sense to you if you can successfully divorce your ego/emotions from reality.

EMILO2STAY:
you seem not to even understand what you believe. According to mainstream science the curvature of the earth can be seen when ships sail off the sea, first the back end of the boat will disappear then followed by the mast and then the entire boat will disappear. You don't need to fly up to see the curvature. Again it has Been demonstrated that no curvature of the earth was seen even at the altitude of over 40thosand feet and above.


As per the helium ball experiment have you tried it?
Have you been on a plane before? Have you seen the curvature of the earth even when it gets to 30thousand feet?.


Oga nah you need to stop being the mumu to the lies this Freemasons feed us with.


If the curvature of the earth is 8inch per square mile then tell me why you need to even go up to conduct an experiment of the curvature of the earth. Have you seen the picture of the earth before? Then tell why the people in australia aren't standing upside down, or why we here in nigeria aren't standing side ways like a gecko on the wall?.

Am waiting for your answers so we can know who is the mumu.

johnydon22:
Exactly. Not surprising that you didn't get that little hilarious analogy.

Your argument seemed to be hinged on to the fact that you or I can't feel the curvature of the earth hence it isn't spherical.

And I used a microscopic organism on a basketball unable to feel the Ball's curvature as the perfect mirror.

I believe you should be getting it. As you said "A sphere remains a sphere, no matter what's on it (whether they are large enough to feel the curvature or not)

Quite possible but less likely.

More likely however, is that you don't.

Because the distance of a horizone is hundreds of kilometers away, far enough for a slight curvature to be observable.

Human size however is what? A hundred and few centimeters tall? About twenty wide? Humans are no bigger than a very tiny microscopic organism in comparison to the size of the earth.

We are like a tardigrade on a basketball (Likely even smaller in comaprison to the earth)

So, how can something so small, feel the curvature on something so big?

I must say that I like the way you think, I love it when people question things without just swallowing them hook line and sinker. Keep it up.

First, in space, there is no such a thing as Up or Down. Your sense of up or down is from your localized gravitational point which is the earth's gravity.

A sphere is symmetrical in every way. Gravity pulls towards the center of the earth not all the way to the other side.

The actual down within a gravitational field is the center of the attraction, in this case the center of the earth not the other side.

So, people in Australia have just as much right to call themselves "up" as people in the Northern Hemisphere do!

But more to the point, the force that keeps everything on the Earth from falling off it is gravity: it's the pull exerted by one object on another because of its mass. For objects like the Earth, the force exerted by the Earth's mass pulls objects in the direction of the Earth's centre. This means that wherever you are on the Earth, the force is always "down" into the ground. That's what keeps everything on Earth "right-side up", even those in Australia!

Up and Down are all a local perspective. For a person in the northern hemisphere, the zenith position in the southern hemisphere seems to be "down". But for a person in the southern hemisphere, zenith is what he/she will call "up". Gravity is always aligned towards the center of the Earth, and so the direction perpendicular to the surface of Earth (at any location on Earth) is what will be referred to as "up" (locally). Hence, everywhere on Earth, a person is still walking "normally" straight up. An analogy is to refer to directions using "right" and "left. Depending on what cardinal direction you are facing, the terms "right" and "left" will differ. What is "right" to one person will be "left" for another (if he were facing the opposite direction). Thus, "right" and "left" are not absolute; they are relative. In the same way, "up" and "down" are also relative and not absolute. Up to a person in the north pole is different from what it means to a person in the equator or in the south pole.

Ola17:


Let me assume you aren’t trolling

Ola17:


The quote in bold is quite hilarious

Understand that when it comes to space, there’s no up or down. As above so below. Your position on earth in relation to space is always ‘up’.

budaatum:

That would be like standing upside down.

The Earth is flat! I insist!!

EMILO2STAY:
lol saying a lot with out saying anything, that is how you atheist confuse people into thinking your making sense.

Oga why don't you conduct a little experiment of placing a microscopic object under a ball and see if it will stick to it due gravity.

So now your trying to tell me that the people in australia are upside down but they don't know it right? ,

then tell me,.. A plane flying from Russia to australia, does it fly and turn upside down when it gets to australia? Pls answer me.

And in case you don't know the curvature of the earth is said to be 8inch per square mile. So it is observable

Again how does the large body of water like the ocean stick to a ball earth, I know you will say gravity but explain it how.

Because you and i know that water is an element that always find its level no matter the shape of its container. Let me stop here.

johnydon22:
Or maybe you aren't paying attention.



I like your questions, they are naive but I'd take a questioning mind to one that thinks his/her knowledge is infallible.

1. Gravity doesn't work like that. A ball lacks the mass to produce its own gravity. (The gravity acting on a ball on earth is the earth's)

2. Any object with its own gravitational field, you don't need to even put anything on its surface for it to attract it, it only needs to be within its gravitational field for it to pull it towards the center of gravity.

(That's why whenever you jump, you don't fly off, you are pulled back down )

3. Any object massive [dense] enough can create not just own gravitational field but can reach a hydrostatic equilibrium (This is why less massive objects tend to have more obloid shapes that spherical)

No. What I'm trying to tell you is that they are not, no one is.

Gravity pulls towards the earth's core not from one side to another.

So, the only down is the earth's core. The other side is still up.

There are no up and down in space.

Your up and down perspective is from the gravitational attraction keeping you firmly pointed to the earth's core.

No sir. Refer to the answer above.



If you know what 8 inches is and what 1 mile is, you will understand how perfectly impossible it is for you to observe.

Refer to the first to why body of water like lakes and seas are pulled towards the earth.

Why it have a curvature as the earth? That's due to the physical property of water, water atoms stick together, in the presence of reduced gravitational effect, surface tension forms it into a sphere.

Exhbit one:
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Well, it is alright that you think you know

peggywebbs:
I don't know anything about what the shape of the earth looks like. It can be a table for all I care. The fact however is no one has ever been to space. Not even robot or humans. It's all a deceptive play of power that was happening between the Russians and the United States then.

Do you think it's impossible for a country to cook up an event secretly and with the amount of money and resources within their power, fake the moon exploration?

If it was true that scientists went to the moon, how come they haven't made any attempt in the last 50 years. The so called NASA claimed that they deleted most of the pictures and videos that were taken. They were only able to recover some pictures from media broadcasts.

Now they claim that it is expensive to go to space and they don't have the technology to get anyone there. People will still argue that the technology is obsolete and they can't get the parts in this age. What a joke.

Aircrafts were invented years ago and they keep improving on the models but yet they claim they can't reconstruct a space rocket to take humans again to space.

If it was successful for them to go to space, don't you think by now people would have been spending vacation in space.

For those saying they get live map views of what the earth looks like on the outside, very funny is it not what you feed computer with that it gives you. Its possible to have satellites at higher altitudes around the earths atmosphere but in space, that's just a hula balu.

@OP, I don't know if it's true the earth is flat or a sphere but as far as I know I can walk, run, jump,sit and I'm not falling off, then I know the earth is balanced to accommodate humans.

The United States have a history of spreading lies to make it seem true. Are they not the same country that claim to have developed an atomic bomb that is large enough to destroy the world and yet people believe.

gensteejay:
OP, are you even sure the sun and the moon are not flat as well?

Maybe our eyes are lying to us like the governments and NASA are, according to you.

gensteejay:
Funny thread.

It's ludicrous that some people actually believe these strange claims in 2019:

1. The Earth is flat.

2. There is nothing like space.

3. There is nothing like gravity.

4. In the extremely massive universe, only Earth exists.

5. That means there's nothing like "the universe".

6. No Mars, no Venus, no Mercury; in fact, there's nothing called a planet in reality.

7. The earth is 6,000 years old (stated on another thread by OP's ilk.

What a world!

gensteejay:
All right. Good luck with your delusion.

EMILO2STAY:
your ignorance is 60 years back ward in time. This generation of people are investigating thongs for themselves unlike our fathers who believed everything the media tells them.


Get a p900 camera and zoom into the things you called Saturn and mars and venus, you will see a different thing than the picture you were shown.
Tell me what evidence do you have a place called space exist or a place called galaxy if not that you were told what evidence do you have have you been there?

peggywebbs:
I don't know anything about what the shape of the earth looks like. It can be a table for all I care.

The fact however is no one has ever been to space. Not even robot or humans. It's all a deceptive play of power that was happening between the Russians and the United States then.

Do you think it's impossible for a country to cook up an event secretly and with the amount of money and resources within their power, fake the moon exploration?

If it was true that scientists went to the moon, how come they haven't made any attempt in the last 50 years.

The so called NASA claimed that they deleted most of the pictures and videos that were taken. They were only able to recover some pictures from media broadcasts.

Now they claim that it is expensive to go to space and they don't have the technology to get anyone there.

People will still argue that the technology is obsolete and they can't get the parts in this age. What a joke.

Aircrafts were invented years ago and they keep improving on the models but yet they claim they can't reconstruct a space rocket to take humans again to space.

If it was successful for them to go to space, don't you think by now people would have been spending vacation in space.

For those saying they get live map views of what the earth looks like on the outside, very funny is it not what you feed computer with that it gives you. Its possible to have satellites at higher altitudes around the earths atmosphere but in space, that's just a hula balu.

@OP, I don't know if it's true the earth is flat or a sphere but as far as I know I can walk, run, jump,sit and I'm not falling off, then I know the earth is balanced to accommodate humans.

The United States have a history of spreading lies to make it seem true.

Are they not the same country that claim to have developed an atomic bomb that is large enough to destroy the world and yet people believe.

EMILO2STAY:

If the ball lacks the mass then get a heavy ball and conduct the experiment.

gravity is only a theory and not a fact.

Experiments show things fall down when thrown up due to their density and buoyancy and not because an invisible force called gravity pulls them down.

Example is when you throw a nail and a feather from the same height the nail will fall down first because it is heavier if gravity is true it should pull them down at the same time.

Again When we jump up we fall back due to our density not because of an invisible force called gravity.

example when you lift an object 10kg and an object 50kg you notice 50kg is heavier because it has more weight not because gravity prefers to push it down more than the 10kg weight.

I must say you are not making sense from your point number 3 downwards.

So your saying any object with much density should attract object to themselves? Were have you seen this happen?

And pls up and down perspective are not relative. They clearly differ from each other if you doubt me then try walking on the wall or try walking on your ceiling or hanging your self upside down. And see if you will not notice any difference from when your standing up right. or are you telling there is no up and down on a ball?

8 inch per square mile is observable and experiments have been conducted proving the earth flat.

budaatum:

Some would say the same of your thread here! Or don't you know those Freemasons are very deceptive?

We must band together to fight this ignorance and stop Trump stealing the sun from Japan who have diligently ensured it rises everyday. If America get their hands on it it will only rise in America on selected days as Americans don't seem as conscious as the diligent Japanese are.

EMILO2STAY:
your ignorance is 60 years back ward in time. This generation of people are investigating thongs for themselves unlike our fathers who believed everything the media tells them.


[s]Get a p900 camera and zoom into the things you called Saturn and mars and venus, you will see a different thing than the picture you were shown. [/s]
Tell me what evidence do you have a place called space exist or a place called galaxy if not that you were told what evidence do you have have you been there?

What evidence do you have the earth is 4.5billion years old?. What human civilization can be trced back to 4.5billion years?

Ola17:


Do you know what a telescope is?
Look into the heavens on a clear night with the aid of a telescope. A lot of your questions will be answered.