malvisguy212:
may be you are right. but that brother keep repeating the same thing .

Repeating the same thing, like as if he is a broken vinyl record, is his modus operandi annoying special strategy to wear you out.

MuttleyLaff:
Repeating the same thing, like as if he is a broken vinyl record, is his modus operandi annoying special strategy to wear you out.

Jesusjnr, see this apostle of “God has nothing against homosexuality per se” trying hard to make himself relevant here.

So sad, to belittle himself even at his age.

Pathetic

I wonder how someone will read the bible and tell us a gentile should be stoned to death over something she’s unaware of.

It’s as illogical as judging a Christian with the Sharia law to determine such an individual is law abiding.

MuttleyLaff:
Repeating the same thing, like as if he is a broken vinyl record, is his modus operandi annoying special strategy to wear you out.

he mater tire me. because he is not under sharia law, let him go to Saudi Arabia and break there law , may be his only defence , he is not under sharia law despite the fact that he has knowledge of this law.

Malvisguy212 the major thing is Rahab never went back to her prostituting ways after her encounter at Jericho. That’s the repentance.

She married Salmon from the tribe of Judah and ended up as the mother of Boaz.

OkCornel:

I wonder how someone will read the bible and tell us a gentile should be stoned to death over something she’s unaware of..

is she unaware that prostitution is wrong ? smh

malvisguy212:
he mater tire me. because he is not under sharia law, let him go to Saudi Arabia and break there law , may be his only defence , he is not under sharia law despite the fact that he has knowledge of this law.

Now I know reasoning is really a problem for you.

So when Rahab was at Jericho living as prostitute, she was under the Mosaic law that should stone her to death abi?

Read the bolded part of your quote and add your 1 + 1 again.


Why should Rahab a gentile be stoned to death for a law she was never under?

malvisguy212:
he mater tire me. because he is not under sharia law, let him go to Saudi Arabia and break there law , may be his only defence, he is not under sharia law despite the fact that he has knowledge of this law.

Na you dey gif your valuable and precious time toram. I dont give him face. Gone are the days, I used to manage him and suffer him gladly.

malvisguy212:
is she unaware that prostitution is wrong ? smh

Good question, did the laws and customs of her land outlaw prostitution?

The land of Canaan for example where Temple prostitution was deeply entrenched in their culture, how would someone raised in such a background see such as something wrong?

OkCornel:
Malvisguy212 the major thing is Rahab never went back to her prostituting ways after her encounter at Jericho. That’s the repentance.

She married Salmon from the tribe of Judah and ended up as the mother of Boaz.

yes, she never went back,but the good deed was done when she was a prostitute.

malvisguy212:
yes, she never went back,but the good deed was done when she was a prostitute.

Did she repent? Yes or no.

Then go back to my first post on this thread.

OkCornel:


Good question, did the laws and customs of her land outlaw prostitution?

The land of Canaan for example where Temple prostitution was deeply entrenched in their culture, how would someone raised in such a background see such as something wrong?

helping the messenger imply she had knowledge of this law. she wouldn't help someone who condemned what she loves most

OkCornel:


Now I know reasoning is really a problem for you.

So when Rahab was at Jericho living as prostitute, she was under the Mosaic law that should stone her to death abi?

Read the bolded part of your quote and add your 1 + 1 again.


Why should Rahab a gentile be stoned to death for a law she was never under?

the post was an example.

malvisguy212:
helping the messenger imply she had knowledge of this law. she wouldn't help someone who condemned what she loves most

Humor me some more. Showing mercy to the Jewish spies would also imply she was aware she shouldn’t wear clothes of mixed materials, sow different seeds in the same vineyard, abstain from “unclean” animals e.t.c

In fact, showing mercy to the Jewish spies implied she knew the 613 laws of Moses by heart.

malvisguy212:
the post was an example.

You said I had to go to Saudi Arabia to break their laws first before facing the consequences.

Relate that with what we were discussing about Rahab.

Was she living with the Israelites while prostituting? That would have been a different thing altogether

Numbers 15 v 15-16;
15 One ordinance shall be both for you of the congregation, and also for the stranger that sojourneth with you, an ordinance for ever in your generations: as ye are, so shall the stranger be before the Lord.

16 One law and one manner shall be for you, and for the stranger that sojourneth with you.


As you can see from the scriptures above, it’s pointless stoning Rahab to death over a law she was never under. She was living at Jericho with her people prior to the Jewish invasion.

The scripture made it clear whom the Mosaic Law was meant for. The gentile nations were never under the law to start with. The blessings and curses of the law was a covenant with the Jews, and not the entire world.

OkCornel:


You said I had to go to Saudi Arabia to break their laws first before facing the consequences.

Relate that with what we were discussing about Rahab.

Was she living with the Israelites while prostituting? That would have been a different thing altogether

Numbers 15 v 15-16;
15 One ordinance shall be both for you of the congregation, and also for the stranger that sojourneth with you, an ordinance for ever in your generations: as ye are, so shall the stranger be before the Lord.

16 One law and one manner shall be for you, and for the stranger that sojourneth with you.


As you can see from the scriptures above, it’s pointless stoning Rahab to death over a law she was never under. She was living at Jericho with her people prior to the Jewish invasion.

peace bro but Remember, if we could keep the law perfectly then we would not need a Saviour and the death of Christ would not have been necessary . Only guilty lawbreakers need a Saviour, but righteous people who never break the law do not need a Saviour. thank you.

malvisguy212:
peace bro but Remember, if we could keep the law perfectly then we would not need a Saviour and the death of Christ would not have been necessary . Only guilty lawbreakers need a Saviour, but righteous people who never break the law do not need a Saviour. thank you.

I agree on this.

What I was reiterating on this thread is the need for repentance and keeping one’s heart right with God.

The essence of grace is a time of mercy for man to repent and turn away from their sinful ways.

Obeying the words of Jesus, yielding to the Holy Spirit and constantly renewing one’s mind is very very essential.

I’d really wonder why Jesus would say “go and sin no more”

Or why He didn’t just use belief as the basis to separate the sheeps from the goats.

OkCornel:


I agree on this.

What I was reiterating on this thread is the need for repentance and keeping one’s heart right with God.

The essence of grace is a time of mercy for man to repent and turn away from their sinful ways.

Obeying the words of Jesus, yielding to the Holy Spirit and constantly renewing one’s mind is very very essential.

I’d really wonder why Jesus would say “go and sin no more”

Or why He didn’t just use belief as the basis to separate the sheeps from the goats.

Good. how many of us can boast that we have perfectly kept the law ? none, thus we need His Mercy and Grace. thank you.

malvisguy212:
Good. how many of us can boast that we have perfectly kept the law ? none, thus we need His Mercy and Grace. thank you.

What law are you keeping?

Were you ever under the Law to start with?

What is the essence of grace about? A get out of jail card to keep on sinning?

God’s mercy and grace is there to ensure we repent and turn from our sinful ways. It’s not a platform to justify being stunted in our spiritual growth and excusing sinful habit in one’s life.

Again, why would Jesus on more than one occasion still say “go and sin no more”

In addition, why would Jesus also admonish “be perfect, for our Heavenly Father is perfect “

Or you think Jesus had no reason for saying these?

It’s amazing how people mistake an extended grace period to pay back a loan to automatically mean cancellation of that loan.

OkCornel:


What law are you keeping?

Were you ever under the Law to start with?

What is the essence of grace about? A get out of jail card to keep on sinning?

God’s mercy and grace is there to ensure we repent and turn from our sinful ways. It’s not a platform to justify being stunted in our spiritual growth and excusing sinful habit in one’s life.

Again, why would Jesus on more than one occasion still say “go and sin no more”

In addition, why would Jesus also admonish “be perfect, for our Heavenly Father is perfect “

Or you think Jesus had no reason for saying these?

good, for me I believed the law have serve it's purpose. The purpose of the law is not to save (JUSTIFY) a person. The purpose of the law is to show a person his sin (make him knowledgeable about his sin) Think again of a man with a dirty face who looks into a mirror. The DIRT is like SIN and the MIRROR is like the LAW. The purpose of the mirror is to show a
person his dirt! We certainly would not wash our face with the mirror! The mirror tells us that we need to use the soap and water, just as the law tells us that we have sin and need to be cleansed. The LAW cannot cleanse us from sin, only the LAMB can do that.

OkCornel:


Jesusjnr, see this apostle of “God has nothing against homosexuality per se” trying hard to make himself relevant here.

So sad, to belittle himself even at his age.

Pathetic

I wonder how someone will read the bible and tell us a gentile should be stoned to death over something she’s unaware of.

It’s as illogical as judging a Christian with the Sharia law to determine such an individual is law abiding.

Lol!

The gay apostle finally remembered you still existed.

You should rejoice and be glad that you are suffering persecution for righteousness sake.

You know I had strongly persuaded you to avoid him on the cultism thread, because of the importance of that thread, but since that is by the way now, I beseech thee my bro, let the gay apostle know no rest unless he repents and turn away from his wicked and abominable ways.

As for that other one, he can say anything to defend the grace of hell fire, so don't expect anything else.

God bless.

malvisguy212:
good, for me I believed the law have serve it's purpose. The purpose of the law is not to save (JUSTIFY) a person. The purpose of the law is to show a person his sin (make him knowledgeable about his sin) Think again of a man with a dirty face who looks into a mirror. The DIRT is like SIN and the MIRROR is like the LAW. The purpose of the mirror is to show a
person his dirt! We certainly would not wash our face with the mirror! The mirror tells us that we need to use the soap and water, just as the law tells us that we have sin and need to be cleansed. The LAW cannot cleanse us from sin, only the LAMB can do that.

Bros, who was the Law meant for?

This same Jesus also admonished people to “go and sin no more” and “be perfect, for our Heavenly Father is perfect”

Why?

Matthew 5 v 8;

Blessed are the pure in heart, for they shall see God.

Unless there’s a change of heart, if una like preach grace and mercy till forever, you are all wasting your time with lip service.

Empty confessions will take nobody anywhere near the kingdom of heaven.

OkCornel:


Bros, who was the Law meant for?

This same Jesus also admonished people to “go and sin no more” and “be perfect, for our Heavenly Father is perfect”

Why?

a Jewish woman caught in the acts of adultery and JESUS say go and sin no more instead of stoning to death, wasn't this Grace ? it buttress my point.

malvisguy212:
a Jewish woman caught in the acts of adultery and JESUS say go and sin no more instead of stoning to death, wasn't this Grace ? it buttress my point.

Look at the bolded, “Jewish woman” and not Rahab.


And yes, that is what grace entails, you are forgiven, to sin no more. Grace is not an excuse to continue in sin.

Or has my posts on grace said anything different?

If it were impossible to stay away from sin, why would Jesus clearly instruct the adulterous woman to SIN NO MORE.

OkCornel:


Look at the bolded, “Jewish woman” and not Rahab.


And yes, that is what grace entails, you are forgiven, to sin no more. Grace is not an excuse to continue in sin under the guise that.

Or has my posts on grace said anything different?

good, we are on the same boat.

malvisguy212:
good, we are on the same boat.

Cheers.

I think we’ll need to discuss

1) Iniquity
2) Trangression
3) Wickedness
4) Errors

That’ll be another time sha.

Thanks for your time. Do have a good night rest.

jesusjnr:
Lol!

The gay apostle finally remembered you still existed.

You should rejoice and be glad that you are suffering persecution for righteousness sake.

You know I had strongly persuaded you to avoid him on the cultism thread, because of the importance of that thread, but since that is by the way now, I beseech thee my bro, let the gay apostle know no rest unless he repents and turn away from his wicked and abominable ways.

As for that other one, he can say anything to defend the grace of hell fire, so don't expect anything else.

God bless.

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If you know hypocrite, you know.
Who no know hypocrite, no go know, lol.

It just is so obvious, the false prophet, shameless slanderer, accuser of the brethren Apostle Paul and hypocrite, jesusjnr is a closet bucket boy

"That don’t mean I don’t believe in gay marriage"
- © Kanye West

Now self proclaimed prophet jesusjnr, tell the world now. Is Kanye West another "The gay apostle". Right?, lol.
jesusjnr and his own goals, kicking penalties into corners, lol.
By the time I am done with you, you'll wish you never jammed MuttleyLaff and falsely accused MuttleyLaff.

malvisguy212:
may be you are right. but that brother keep repeating the same thing .

Don't waste your time with that unsaved fellow and his fellow satanists. They are just here to cast apsersions on the thread which has achieved the saving of the souls of many who read it.

@bold

^^^

Delusions of the highest order. From his gaffes on tithes & first fruits, now to his lopsided views on the purpose of God’s grace.

Calling others satanists, whereas no one needs to see beyond your lifestyle to see sheer hypocrisy in full display.

“Let’s know so that broke niggas like us can know if it is affordable. I hail you” - albaghdadi November 2016.

God’s grace is there for repentance, and not an excuse to keep wallowing in sin.

malvisguy212:
may be you are right. but that brother keep repeating the same thing

alBHAGDADI:
Don't waste your time with that unsaved fellow and his fellow satanists. They are just here to cast apsersions on the thread which has achieved the saving of the souls of many who read it.

@bold

This meme always crack me up. Viera standing by the door and smirking. Bwahahaha, I don't just know why, lol

Lol, someone's (Muttley) trying real hard to get attention.

Wisdom no be by old age true true

Predictably, he’s hoping for a response from those he quoted so they can continue discussing irrelevant matters as far this thread is concerned.

So amusing

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