Alashoalash10:
so umuna are the law enforcement agents in your area,no police, no court ? Wait until they take over the whole building from you, Better get police involved immediately

Me sef taya for the umuna

I logged in to chip in . I have a close relative who had similar issue but was not treated when their parent were alive .Today they are suffering from their parent inaction. Please, do not wait for your parent to act since you describe your dad has a peace loving man rather you and your siblings should do the needful immediately.
Failure to act now that everyone is still alive , might not go well when they all leave this planet earth . Do not waste anytime further because delay is dangerous.

Do not postpone this matter for any reason.


Please , discontinue involving ummuna rather use your state tenancy laws through the guidance of a lawyer.
A word is enough

If the house was built in your family compound(your grandfather's compound) he will have serious problem asking them to leave. But if its sited in an entirely different location, he can send them away.

This the exact situation my dad got us into when we were small, my uncles even use to beat us and one day slapped my mum, to tell you how the house was a funji house of commotion , funny thing is my dad was the one that built the house and gave them one room each just like you narrated, my dad had to buy another land elsewhere immediately the boy's quarter was completed we rushed and packed in there till the main building was completed and till now the drama over there seems not to have an end but we are exempted sometimes any mess up there they come to my parents that is living far away to report the issues. I don't see those ur uncles as those that are ready to vacant if ur papa get the money he should forfeit there and build another for himself, those uncles can kill because of that so it's better he give them some distance.

We've seen cases like this everywhere... If care is taken, those your uncles will kill your father and claimed the house.

Your Dad is too soft to handle them.

tomdon:
There are things you aren't disclosing. What is the root of the problem. If your father is the sole owner of the property then he just has to tolerate his brothers and let them be till they leave on their own even if he doesn't outrightly make peace with them because blood is thicker than water.
If the issue of ownership is not well ironed out now I think the problem will never end. Enquire from your mother if your father doesn't tell you everything.
How could they have successfully raised their families in one room each?
It is even doubtful these ones will agree if your father gives them money to go elsewhere

Lol. My dad is the first son and he built the house solely on his portion of his inheritance as first son. The ownership of the house is not in question. It's just that they do not want to leave, saying that they will take their time to build their own house, and that's only when they'll leave.

Your dad made a very sensitive mistake.


Get the police and lawyers to do the obvious.

Then after that (this is merely literal--- you should be soaked in God always), follow God like glue and be filled with His power. The battle will most definitely enter spiritual warfare.

Do not be afraid. That is of course, if you belong to God vis a vis a believer in Jesus Christ.

safarigirl:
are they valid tenants that should be given quit notice? The man can kick them out at any time he pleases, they are living there under his goodwill, they have no legal claim

The best he can do is involve the police and have them forcefully ejected.

The house has no papers, it's all this house people just build on their inherited land in the village. Again, ownership of the house is not in question.

Nlearn:
Yes.. This is family. Bro
Yes we pray for family unity and progress

But on this issue.. Both u and ur dad. Has to be patient until they build their own house. Even if is going to take them a life time.. U have to be patient.

Just stay away from they problem. And focus on making a living.. Ur dad has done great in building a family house in the 80s


Plan to build urs

And here is the truth.. Even after u build urs

If ur uncle and they family. Has not build theirs.. U will still provide an accommodation for them


That is the fact.

Don't go to the police or get lawyer on this.. U will lose the case..

And the memories will out live for ever..

Find ways to unite the family and be on a vigil of peace and progress

Good luck

Lose the case?
Like his own house.

AceOfRed:
Please I need legal or customary advice from experienced people.

My dad built a house in the early 80s; a 5 bedroom bungalow, that's before he got married. As at the time he completed the building, he was about to get married, while his 2 brothers were still single then. Because my dad was not based in my town, he gave all his 2 brothers 1 room each to stay in, as they were bachelors. My family occupies 3 rooms ensuite, while my uncles occupy the other two rooms, with a detached kitchen and toilet.

As time went on, they later got married, but still kept living in the single rooms. Now they have families, with my oldest cousin being in his 20s.

The problem is that the relationship between my dad and his brothers has deteriorated terribly over the past years to the extent that my uncle's and their wives now threaten my parents with murder and diabolical acts. In fact, I can't put on text the many issues that have arose between my parents and my uncles.

Now, my dad wants them to vacate his house but they bluntly refused saying that they will live there for as long as they wish. As the first son, he has divided their ancestral lands amongst them, but they have refused to put up there.

Their continued stay in that house has become a huge source of worry and headache to my parents. There is no day that one issue or the other doesn't come up.

My dad has reported them severally to the 'umunna', but this hasn't yielded any benefit. As members of the umunna are people of questionable judgement. They keep telling my dad to wait till my uncle's build their own house, but they are not even interested in building anything, as they have made it clear that they will live with my parents, just to be monitoring them.

Hi guy
Please if you still need your father alive,the best is to leave the properties for them
Or since their rooms are different from youra,let ur dad use brick to create walland block them to their own side so you wont be having to do anything together aside greeting.
Let me.be truthful bro,your dad cannot evacuate these two men and unless God does.
So they are your ancestral enemy you will live with till eternity.

jaymichael:
He should just sell the house or transfer to a management company.

You talk my heart finish my dear.... But it must be a secret if not this wicked, ungrateful siblings will be praying that there should be no buyer.... Some men have poor mentality and now marry wives like themselves, these ones no like progress.

AceOfRed:
Please I need legal or customary advice from experienced people.

My dad built a house in the early 80s; a 5 bedroom bungalow, that's before he got married. As at the time he completed the building, he was about to get married, while his 2 brothers were still single then. Because my dad was not based in my town, he gave all his 2 brothers 1 room each to stay in, as they were bachelors. My family occupies 3 rooms ensuite, while my uncles occupy the other two rooms, with a detached kitchen and toilet.

As time went on, they later got married, but still kept living in the single rooms. Now they have families, with my oldest cousin being in his 20s.

The problem is that the relationship between my dad and his brothers has deteriorated terribly over the past years to the extent that my uncle's and their wives now threaten my parents with murder and diabolical acts. In fact, I can't put on text the many issues that have arose between my parents and my uncles.

Now, my dad wants them to vacate his house but they bluntly refused saying that they will live there for as long as they wish. As the first son, he has divided their ancestral lands amongst them, but they have refused to put up there.

Their continued stay in that house has become a huge source of worry and headache to my parents. There is no day that one issue or the other doesn't come up.

My dad has reported them severally to the 'umunna', but this hasn't yielded any benefit. As members of the umunna are people of questionable judgement. They keep telling my dad to wait till my uncle's build their own house, but they are not even interested in building anything, as they have made it clear that they will live with my parents, just to be monitoring them.

To be truthful to you. We are in the same dilemma, the same 5 bedrooms. What my Dad wants to do now is to build another house outside their Obi. I guess your Dad house is inside the Obi. But he won't tell them that he has left the house for them ooh. Just build another house for his safety. My Dad half brothers are highly diabolical and my Dad was advised by many people to take that route to avoid future brouhaha.

paix:
The best thing to do is to let the sleeping dogs lay. If your parents are in position to build another house, let them build another house and forget about this one. Unless if your parents will be ready to SACRIFICE all of you for the house, which you and I know it is not worth the sacrifice. You have mentioned that your uncles are diabolical.

You guys are just saying build another house as if it cost 1k to do that.

baby124:
Your father should remove their roofs and doors right in front of them. Hire police to give them one hour to move and then lock up the house for 6months. Anybody that does not move out will be seen as an unwanted visitor. Anyone attempting to move in, a trespasser to be shot on sight. Let him also pay for armed guards.

They can go and live with the relatives supporting their arrogant attitude.

And they will kill the old.man after abi.
You dont know these people.can do and undo.
Holywood film.det sence at times.
Watch and learn

madridguy:
It is true that some mistakes can never be corrected in life. Tell your dad to try and make peace with his brothers and forget about evicting them.
You should also try your best to stay neutral so your relationship with your cousins will forever remain intact.

Are you not aware that some situations, even in a family, cannot be fixed? Trying can kill you.

AceOfRed:


Lol. My dad is the first son and he built the house solely on his portion of his inheritance as first son. The ownership of the house is not in question. It's just that they do not want to leave, saying that they will take their time to build their own house, and that's only when they'll leave.

Your Dad is the first son. That means he has a say. He should make them leave then but should be very careful. My Dad is their half brother and not the first son. That is where the scenario differs.

But if he can build another house outside the Obi. That will help against future brouhaha. It's not easy, Land in my village now runs in millions of Naira.

AceOfRed:


The house has no papers, it's all this house people just build on their inherited land in the village. Again, ownership of the house is not in question.

house has no papers? Is there any proof of inheritance?

Because if it has no papers, anyone can claimit. If Your uncles have lived there long enough, they can claim ownership by virtue of having had possession there for a long period of time.

This is one of the downsides of letting close family member live in your house

If you guys have excess funds get another land else where and build another house. Then sell the property in question about 6 months after packing out.

Lastly get very spiritual to combat any diabolic attacks.

AceOfRed:
Please I need legal or customary advice from experienced people.

My dad built a house in the early 80s; a 5 bedroom bungalow, that's before he got married. As at the time he completed the building, he was about to get married, while his 2 brothers were still single then. Because my dad was not based in my town, he gave all his 2 brothers 1 room each to stay in, as they were bachelors. My family occupies 3 rooms ensuite, while my uncles occupy the other two rooms, with a detached kitchen and toilet.

As time went on, they later got married, but still kept living in the single rooms. Now they have families, with my oldest cousin being in his 20s.

The problem is that the relationship between my dad and his brothers has deteriorated terribly over the past years to the extent that my uncle's and their wives now threaten my parents with murder and diabolical acts. In fact, I can't put on text the many issues that have arose between my parents and my uncles.

Now, my dad wants them to vacate his house but they bluntly refused saying that they will live there for as long as they wish. As the first son, he has divided their ancestral lands amongst them, but they have refused to put up there.

Their continued stay in that house has become a huge source of worry and headache to my parents. There is no day that one issue or the other doesn't come up.

My dad has reported them severally to the 'umunna', but this hasn't yielded any benefit. As members of the umunna are people of questionable judgement. They keep telling my dad to wait till my uncle's build their own house, but they are not even interested in building anything, as they have made it clear that they will live with my parents, just to be monitoring them.

AceOfRed:


The house has no papers, it's all this house people just build on their inherited land in the village. Again, ownership of the house is not in question.

Involve a lawyer to help regularize your paper through the ministry of lands.

Tell your dad to rent an apartment somewhere pack in and inform his brothers that the house has been sold with a plan with a real estate firm to act as buyer and rent it out for some years

Osa0:
If you guys have excess funds get another land else where and build another house. Then sell the property in question about 6 months after packing out.

Lastly get very spiritual to combat any diabolic attacks.

I am not sure they can sell out rightly if the house is in the Obi. Does not look right.

My dear when juju enter matter it is another thing. If your family is a prayerful one, take charge spiritually, get a lawyer to issue them notice to vacate the place.

Another thing is, if you can't fight the battle it better you run for your life. your family should vacate the house for them, Go and build another house, move in and rest.

Am sorry to say this too, but you father is not a wise man. he should have sent them packing the day they got married. You can't chase them away now after harbouring for all this year till the first child is 20yrs

Your father has to finish what he has started. Shikina

AceOfRed:
Please I need legal or customary advice from experienced people.

My dad built a house in the early 80s; a 5 bedroom bungalow, that's before he got married. As at the time he completed the building, he was about to get married, while his 2 brothers were still single then. Because my dad was not based in my town, he gave all his 2 brothers 1 room each to stay in, as they were bachelors. My family occupies 3 rooms ensuite, while my uncles occupy the other two rooms, with a detached kitchen and toilet.

As time went on, they later got married, but still kept living in the single rooms. Now they have families, with my oldest cousin being in his 20s.

The problem is that the relationship between my dad and his brothers has deteriorated terribly over the past years to the extent that my uncle's and their wives now threaten my parents with murder and diabolical acts. In fact, I can't put on text the many issues that have arose between my parents and my uncles.

Now, my dad wants them to vacate his house but they bluntly refused saying that they will live there for as long as they wish. As the first son, he has divided their ancestral lands amongst them, but they have refused to put up there.

Their continued stay in that house has become a huge source of worry and headache to my parents. There is no day that one issue or the other doesn't come up.

My dad has reported them severally to the 'umunna', but this hasn't yielded any benefit. As members of the umunna are people of questionable judgement. They keep telling my dad to wait till my uncle's build their own house, but they are not even interested in building anything, as they have made it clear that they will live with my parents, just to be monitoring them.

urchcherry:
This the exact situation my dad got us into when we were small, my uncles even use to beat us and one day slapped my mum, to tell you how the house was a funji house of commotion , funny thing is my dad was the one that built the house and gave them one room each just like you narrated, my dad had to buy another land elsewhere immediately the boy's quarter was completed we rushed and packed in there till the main building was completed and till now the drama over there seems not to have an end but we are exempted sometimes any mess up there they come to my parents that is living far away to report the issues. I don't see those ur uncles as those that are ready to vacant if ur papa get the money he should forfeit there and build another for himself, those uncles can kill because of that so it's better he give them some distance.

Exactly what I suggested. It is not easy but it is worth it

gbeseun:


And they will kill the old.man after abi.
You dont know these people.can do and undo.
Holywood film.det sence at times.
Watch and learn

You watch too much nollywood. OP’s father is too kind. There are some family members you can’t try this nonsense with. Shebi it’s one room each. By the time I remove all the roof, windows and doors. Borrow vicious dogs and let them loose in the compound. They will be the ones begging and crying to leave.

baby124:
Your father should remove their roofs and doors right in front of them. Hire police to give them one hour to move and then lock up the house for 6months. Anybody that does not move out will be seen as an unwanted visitor. Anyone attempting to move in, a trespasser to be shot on sight. Let him also pay for armed guards.

They can go and live with the relatives supporting their arrogant attitude.

Funnily enough, I have another uncle, the youngest brother of my dad. He was living in the house too, but when the brouhaha started, he left and built his own house.

Now, he sits in the comfort of his own house to support my other uncle's not to leave until they are prepared. My dad once asked him to give one of my uncle's a room in his new house, but he refused.

AceOfRed:


Funnily enough, I have another uncle, the youngest brother of my dad. He was living in the house too, but when the brouhaha started, he left and built his own house.

Now, he sits in the comfort of his own house to support my other uncle's not to leave until they are prepared. My dad once asked him to give one of my uncle's a room in his new house, but he refused.

He’s supporting them because he knows that if they chase them out, they will face his own house. Lol. He’s the smartest of them all.

To be sincere issues like this are very difficult and complex to rectify.. I gave you shelter before you got married and after marrying for over 20yrs you still can't afford to even build a 3bedroom flat? Common man, you dad is treating this issue with a child's hand.. Is either they make peace reign by force or I placed them to where they belong... Bura ubanci ma kenan!!!

[quote author=madridguy post=84635419][b]It is true that some mistakes can never be corrected in life. Tell your dad to try and make peace with his brothers and forget about evicting them.
You should also try your best to stay neutral so your relationship with your cousins will forever remain intact.




Nice advise, it's a very delicate situation and the Dad need to apply wisdom, if no be say money dey yab man the man for even leave the house for the troublesome brothers go build another elsewhere..

To give monkey water with cup dey easy but na to collect the cup back be problem..

donifez:


I am not sure they can sell out rightly if the house is in the Obi. Does not look right.

Exactly, my dad is the first son, and built the house in the obi. There's no way he can uproot from such a place. It's unheard of.

My honest advice to you is this.
1 Make peace first before involving the Police, lawyer or any other institutions.
2 Tomorrow is pregnant, nobody knows what it will give birth to. You might be in need that only your cousins can solve.
3 Ask your father to call a meeting with his siblings. Let him make peace with them. And if he can help them build or rent he should do so.
4 For your father to have given them rooms, means that the entire family used to be in harmony, peace, joy and happiness and they all wished your father well.
5 Go and find out the Genesis of the problem and resolve it from there.
6 Remember, it's just an ordinary house. Don't let it take anyone's life. People can do anything possible when under pressure and without alter.
7 Be the person that unites the family. Always speak PEACE. Don't ever speak derogatory to any party involved so you are not quoted tomorrow.
8 Ask your mum to love and keep peace with other wife's, their children and the family.
9 Prayer prayer prayer prayer prayer prayer prayer
10 PEACE PEACE PEACE PEACE PEACE PEACE PEACE PEACE PEACE PEACE PEACE PEACE PEACE PEACE PEACE PEACE PEACE PEACE PEACE PEACE PEACE PEACE PEACE PEACE PEACE PEACE PEACE PEACE PEACE PEACE PEACE PEACE PEACE PEACE PEACE PEACE PEACE PEACE PEACE PEACE PEACE PEACE PEACE PEACE PEACE PEACE PEACE

For those of us saying call lawyer, call police, evict them etc, igbo culture handles cases like this differently.
First, the guy didn't tell us if the land his father built on is a generational land, if the family has generational house before, if their father divided land among the brothers( That's his father and his brothers)

Now, if the house is a family house ie the main house which the first son or whoever that has money usually build for the family, my dear, the customary court will rule against your father, the police will blatantly tell u to go home and settle the case and u cannot remove the roof over their head. The first son automatically become father once their dad dies and if their dad didn't build family house or the one he built was pulled down and the first son built another one, it's expected the the rest of the family will join him

Now, to avoid trouble, he can build smaller ones for his brothers if they don't have the money to build.

That is how it's done. U don't drive your brothers out of the house because u hate one another. Make peace or work hard to build something for them in their own part of the family land. U want to evict them to go and live where?

And as for you the @op, u the kids and especially you the first son will know better that continuing in this madness that may destroy generations to come.
Your dad made that mistake, don't repeat it. Your unborn kids might inherit what they don't have idea when it started. Lives lost because of one house, yes, people can go that far. Wisdom is profitable to him who has ear.

You all should call for peace and hustle to make your own money, go somewhere and build your village house and leave that house for them. U should learn from your dad's mistake. Peace and avoiding stuffs like this is always the best way out.
Ignore all the police, court whatever as they will rule against u and deepen the strife and hatred. That is why the ùmùnna is stalling. U don't chase a brother out from a supposed family house because u are the one who built it unless there is need for that e.g. if he is a thief or a killer in which case the ùmùnna will proudly and boldly do that for u.
Be wise and save your generation.