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Re: Why Is There A Resurrection? by Peacefullove: 10:40am On Feb 05, 2020 |
I know you understand nothing. shadeyinka: Psalm 104:29,30 says animals have Spirit , just as God has spirit. You insist that word is breath, that means animals have breath just as God has breath. that Bible verse said so But it's Interesting that verse 30 says when God sent his ruach ( spirit also breath) , Things are created. Which means the verse is reffering to Holy spirit of God as BREATH . Do you agree ? The point here is verse 29 and 30 has the same hebrew word. It's either you admit it means Spirit or admit it means holy spirit is breath. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Why Is There A Resurrection? by Peacefullove: 10:43am On Feb 05, 2020 |
I know you understand nothing. shadeyinka: U mean holy spirit is the Father ? The " You " in that verse was a reference to the Father. , God of Isreal . Psalm 104:29,30 says animals have Spirit , just as God has spirit. You insist that word is breath, that means animals have breath just as God has breath. that Bible verse said so But it's Interesting that verse 30 says when God sent his ruach ( spirit also breath) , Things are created. Which means the verse is reffering to Holy spirit of God as BREATH . Do you agree ? The point here is verse 29 and 30 has the same hebrew word. It's either you admit it means Spirit or admit it means holy spirit is breath. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Why Is There A Resurrection? by Peacefullove: 10:55am On Feb 05, 2020 |
shadeyinka:Big FAT LIE That is not ressurection , but RECOMBINATION. Ressurection deals with bringing what is dead to life , non living to living That's why it's called " Ressurection of THE DEAD " bringing the dead to life.
Jesus didn't recombine with a physical body .
It says " Spirit of LIFE " entered them , you blind ? They are dead and brought back to LIFE . Not recombine Wait so they recombined with physical body of flesh and blood and go to heaven ? Flesh and blood now inherit the Kingdom of God they ?
It says those who " SLEEP " . Dead were raised Not those recombined . Quick one: Was Lazarus of Bethany raised from the dead ( non living) state to life ( living) or he was alive in heaven and Recombined with flesh ? 2 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Why Is There A Resurrection? by Peacefullove: 11:10am On Feb 05, 2020 |
blueAgent: blueAgent: Shadeyinka is not learned to understand this fact u brought up , that's why he is denying what's obvious that animals have spirit. Going by spirit meaning supplied at point 3. Whenever he makes an assertion double-check it very well, that's how he lied only humans are living souls , do you saw his bizzare definition of ressurection ? He was defining RECOMBINATION theory 2 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Why Is There A Resurrection? by Peacefullove: 11:27am On Feb 05, 2020 |
shadeyinka: The point is they have it . Genesis 7:22 At Revelation you quoted the other time, this breath of life was called ,, Spirit of life. And you are still blindly arguing animals don't have spirit when the Bible itself refer to breath of life as Spirit of life ! And it doesn't give them afterlife. You should cover your eyes in shame already Please open your eyes, don't you see " fifth seal " ? John saw nothing but symbols here. Are you aware he also saw starts falling on Earth and , Death riding a horse in the same seals ? it's as real as stars falling on Earth " they lived " knocks you out. The soul that John saw here DIED , this is a person not some mythical ghost in your head . For them to have come alive, they are previously dead . If by they lived u meant RECOMBINATION, So they reign with Jesus as humans of flesh and blood ? 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Why Is There A Resurrection? by blueAgent(m): 12:03pm On Feb 05, 2020 |
MuttleyLaff:This is guess work and pure human teaching and doctrine not Bible. 1 Like |
Re: Why Is There A Resurrection? by shadeyinka(m): 12:35pm On Feb 05, 2020 |
Peacefullove:How can we be on the same page when you don't know the difference between a Soul and a Spirit 1 Like |
Re: Why Is There A Resurrection? by MuttleyLaff: 12:38pm On Feb 05, 2020 |
blueAgent:1/ What gets judged blueAgent? 2/ Is it the soul or the spirit? 3/ The ______ that sin, shall die. Fill in the blank blueAgent. |
Re: Why Is There A Resurrection? by OLAADEGBU(m): 12:44pm On Feb 05, 2020 |
budaatum: It is good that you've observed that I differ with both narrations. |
Re: Why Is There A Resurrection? by Nobody: 12:46pm On Feb 05, 2020 |
MuttleyLaff:Body-flesh that decays and becomes dust Soul-innerman/what occupies flesh Spirit-breath of life/life giving energy that powers human Correct me if am wrong on this 1 Like |
Re: Why Is There A Resurrection? by blueAgent(m): 12:53pm On Feb 05, 2020 |
Peacefullove shadeyinka I have been following the arguments between you 2. I want to say both of you are partly right. Man does not have a Soul but Man is a living Soul. There is nothing like the Soul of a dead man. Ones a person dies the Soul ceases to exist. Its like one having nails and wood and the person decides to make a box. when the person dismantles the box he has only 2 things left that is the nails and wood but no box. So also when God made man, God brought our body to come in contact with his spirit which is also referred to as breathe and Man became a living Soul. Just as the box no longer exist when it has been dismantled so aslo the soul stop existing ones the breathe leaves the body. Genesis 2:7 And the LORD God formed man [of] the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul. There is no life or consciousnesses in the grave, all those are pagan teachings. Another argument I observed is on what is resurrected weather it is the physical body or spiritual body. based on the word of God it is the physical body that is resurrected and transformed for the just, to a body that lives above death and sin. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Why Is There A Resurrection? by blueAgent(m): 1:01pm On Feb 05, 2020 |
Michellekabod2:True. |
Re: Why Is There A Resurrection? by blueAgent(m): 1:08pm On Feb 05, 2020 |
MuttleyLaff: its obvious You don't know what a soul means. The word Soul can mean 3 different things in the bible depending on the context it is used. The word soul in the bible can mean 3different things. 1.A living being 2.The mind, thinking, ones physce 3.. it can also mean life or breathe. To answer your question. A person is judge and punished, there is no division of body soul and spirit that is judge. The Soul that sinneth shall die. can be translated to mean The person that sinneth shall die. or the Man that Sinneth shall die. |
Re: Why Is There A Resurrection? by Peacefullove: 2:13pm On Feb 05, 2020 |
shadeyinka: What is the spirit of life? Same as Breath of life ? To expose your little reasoning |
Re: Why Is There A Resurrection? by MuttleyLaff: 2:27pm On Feb 05, 2020 |
Michellekabod2:Numbering your answers with corresponding asked questions would have made it possible to know what you've replied to Mich' 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Why Is There A Resurrection? by Nobody: 3:45pm On Feb 05, 2020 |
MuttleyLaff:this isn't in response to any post,wanted to clarify the meaning of those terms from a religious perspective |
Re: Why Is There A Resurrection? by MuttleyLaff: 3:59pm On Feb 05, 2020 |
MuttleyLaff: Michellekabod2: MuttleyLaff: Michellekabod2:OK Body-flesh that decays and becomes dust =>(check) ✓ 10/10 Soul-innerman/what occupies flesh =>(check) ✓ 9.25/10 Spirit-breath of life/life giving energy that powers human (check) => 9.25/10 You would have gotten the full 10/10 marks, but obviously there are more meat to add to your second and last responses 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Why Is There A Resurrection? by Nobody: 4:09pm On Feb 05, 2020 |
shadeyinka:does this debunk the claim of death afterwards ghost approaching judgement then heaven/hell? Or the dead are unconscious until resurrection then heaven/hell? |
Re: Why Is There A Resurrection? by Nobody: 4:18pm On Feb 05, 2020 |
shadeyinka:nah...what he meant was spirit/breath are synonymous. He defines spirit as the breathe of life/life giving force. |
Re: Why Is There A Resurrection? by Nobody: 4:28pm On Feb 05, 2020 |
blueAgent:so majority of Christians/churches are liars since they claim that after death a "ghost" ascends for judgement? In this thread alone they are different versions of life after death ...lol Christianity and confusion like bread and butter. |
Re: Why Is There A Resurrection? by shadeyinka(m): 4:44pm On Feb 05, 2020 |
Peacefullove:Please what did John see? |
Re: Why Is There A Resurrection? by Peacefullove: 4:50pm On Feb 05, 2020 |
shadeyinka: Counter the post properly and stop asking silly questions . |
Re: Why Is There A Resurrection? by Peacefullove: 4:53pm On Feb 05, 2020 |
Michellekabod2: Majority of them are bloody liars , The funniest thing about this thing is when Yeshua popularly known as Jesus was dying he said he commit his Spirit into his father's hand. You would expect that it should mean he will be in heaven immediately he dies after all his Father is in heaven and they teach that spirit is a ghost representing each person . Only for him to ressurect days later and say He has not ascend to his Father. Which begs the question ... What is the spirit that now return to God ? Definitely it wasn't any ghost of Jesus but simply means he surrendered his breath to his Father only whom can restore it. |
Re: Why Is There A Resurrection? by shadeyinka(m): 4:57pm On Feb 05, 2020 |
Did God breath His breath of life into Animals too? When? Peacefullove:See how you twist the truth!? Did I ever even accidentally say animals are given afterlife? The question was: when did God breathe into the animals at creation? Simple question! Peacefullove: So, if these are mere symbols, can you please give the meaning of "I saw the souls of those slain for Christ"? Rev 6:9 Similarly for "I saw the souls of those who were beheaded for Christ"? Rev 20:4 Peacefullove: The bible was clear "I saw the souls of those slain for Christ"? Rev 6:9 AND "I saw the souls of those who were beheaded for Christ"? Rev 20:4 Rev 6:9-11: "And when He had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of those who had been slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held. And they cried with a loud voice, saying, Until when, Master, holy and true, do You not judge and avenge our blood on those who dwell on the earth? And white robes were given to each one of them. And it was said to them that they should rest yet for a little time, until both their fellow servants and their brothers (those about to be killed as they [were] ) should have their number made complete." Please since you say they are mere symbols, PLEASE INTERPRET ? |
Re: Why Is There A Resurrection? by Peacefullove: 4:59pm On Feb 05, 2020 |
shadeyinka: To expose your fraud further Spirit of life and breath of life ... Are they synonymous ? |
Re: Why Is There A Resurrection? by Peacefullove: 5:03pm On Feb 05, 2020 |
shadeyinka:Asking silly questions when he is exposed. If God didn't breath, how come they have the breath of life ? Good u didn't deny they have it.
Firstly, Do you accept the fifth seal at Rev 6:9 are symbols , just as Death riding a horse is a symbol ? And stars falling on Earth ?
Rev 20:4, Why did those Souls die and come alive if they are ghosts ? |
Re: Why Is There A Resurrection? by shadeyinka(m): 5:13pm On Feb 05, 2020 |
Peacefullove:What is dead? Is it the body, soul or spirit of a personality? Sometimes I wonder if I am interacting with a toddler. When life leaves a BODY, the BODY is termed DEAD. What happens when the life is recombined with the dead body? Is that not a resurrection? Bringing back to life the DEAD BODY! You see how I have to break it down like I am speaking to a toddler!? Example: Lazarus died and his body became lifeless! Jesus called out Lazarus? The Life returned into Lazarus body: and he (the body of Lazarus) lived again. "And he who had died came out, bound hand and foot with sheets, and his face was bound with a cloth. Jesus said to them, Untie him and let [him] go!" Dictionary Definition: Collegiate Definition a. capitalized : the rising of Christ from the dead b. often capitalized : the rising again to life of all the human dead before the final judgment c: the state of one risen from the dead Synonyms: reanimation, rebirth, regeneration, rejuvenation, rejuvenescence, renewal, resurgence, resuscitation, revitalization, revival, revivification. Words Related to resurrection. renaissance, renascence. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.merriam-webster.com/thesaurus/resurrection&ved=2ahUKEwi99P7O5brnAhWnD2MBHf9CAX8QFjABegQIARAI&usg=AOvVaw3qKzDVtiNwGzScceAyiFiJ |
Re: Why Is There A Resurrection? by shadeyinka(m): 5:59pm On Feb 05, 2020 |
MuttleyLaff:In your opinion, What is a Soul? What is a Spirit? It seems we are not on the same page therefore there cannot be an agreement if the fundermental is not treated! |
Re: Why Is There A Resurrection? by shadeyinka(m): 6:04pm On Feb 05, 2020 |
blueAgent:Do you think angels have souls? And what is your definition of soul? What is your definition of spirit? |
Re: Why Is There A Resurrection? by shadeyinka(m): 6:05pm On Feb 05, 2020 |
Peacefullove:Please what is your definition of a soul? What is your definition of a spirit? |
Re: Why Is There A Resurrection? by shadeyinka(m): 6:13pm On Feb 05, 2020 |
Michellekabod2:I don't understand your question 1. The dead are conscious even in dead: Just like angels are conscious even though they do not have flesh and blood, a human being is conscious even when his whole body is decayed! |
Re: Why Is There A Resurrection? by shadeyinka(m): 6:18pm On Feb 05, 2020 |
Michellekabod2:Breathe must come from somewhere to someplace. The bible says God is a SPIRIT! That is a fundermental bible truth. A spirit is a living BEING in a non-physical dimension. Beings within this "spiritual dimension" are living identities (unique and distinguishable). God isn't the only spirit entity in the Universe, angels, demons are also spirits. |
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