obowo69:


I think you need to know that I agree with you 100% and actually hate IPOB led by Nnamdi Kanu for doing this.

I was just pointing out that hypocrisy. Everyone should stay on their own lane. Don’t bring up Niger delta republic only when biafra is discussed but never ever bring it up any other time or even have a movement for it.

They can bring up their Niger Delta republic anytime they want. It shouldn't be any of our concerns.
They mostly bring Niger Delta republic up during Biafra discussions because IPOB has conspired to continually put these ND ethnic groups in Biafra maps and discussions.
IPOB have no shame and had decided to continually be opening Ndiigbo up for embarrassment and disgrace from these minorities by their desperate attache by force and forceful conscription of these groups into Biafra.
This is the catalyst for the reasons we get reactions from those quarters whenever Biafra is mentioned. Actions begot reactions.
Call off these minorities bluff, declare Biafra an Igbo republic, meet with stake holders in Igbo speaking parts of SS, anyone who rejects us, reject them publicly too as part of Biafra.

How can you claim to be fighting for a country when you are yet to define its territory without eliciting disgrace.
IPOB and its leadership have not in anyway advanced this Biafra cause beyond where they met it, history will remember that.
6 years and counting, IPOB has not sorted out Biafra boundaries. What.a circus.

Much ado about nothing

pazienza:


They can bring up their Niger Delta republic anytime they want. It shouldn't be any of our concerns.
They mostly bring Niger Delta republic up during Biafra discussions because IPOB has conspired to continually put these ND ethnic groups in Biafra maps and discussions.
IPOB have no shame and had decided to continually be opening Ndiigbo up for embarrassment and disgrace from these minorities by their desperate attache by force and forceful conscription of these groups into Biafra.
This is the catalyst for the reasons we get reactions from those quarters whenever Biafra is mentioned. Actions begot reactions.
Call off these minorities bluff, declare Biafra an Igbo republic, meet with stake holders in Igbo speaking parts of SS, anyone who rejects us, reject them publicly too as part of Biafra.

How can you claim to be fighting for a country when you are yet to define its territory without eliciting disgrace.
IPOB and its leadership have not in anyway advanced this Biafra cause beyond where they met it, history will remember that.
6 years and counting, IPOB has not sorted out Biafra boundaries. What.a circus.

IPOB is not the problem... Kanu is the major problem.. he just lump everything together and believe he’s making sense.
Don’t know why IPOB is still doing with the fool.. the idiot don’t know what he want... Biafra or fame!

pazienza:


Well I know that Ibibio, Ijaw and Urhobo favour Niger delta republic because you hope to start playing majority politics in the new country against the smaller ethnic groups, like Ijaw did in old Rivers state, Urhobo in current Delta and Ibibio in Akwa Ibom.

But you must know that Niger Delta republic will not happen. After escaping this failed Nigeria,no ethnic nationality would ever tolerate to be under another.
Groups like Oro, Ogoni are already far advanced in their quest for independent country free from Ibibio and Ijaws, and would be supported by Ndiigbo to gain such, if we have a strategic leadership by then sha, not the current disorganized one championing for Biafra.

I am 100 percent that there will be no Niger Delta republic,At least not one consisting of all current 6 SS states intact. Niger Delta republic will likely in the end be just Ijaw republic, which was exactly what Boro defunct Niger Delta republic was all about.
At least 20 independent countries would emanate from the current Niger Delta region.
IPOB should stop wasting our time and forge synergy with all those groups as independent countries and not part of Biafra, so that we can all push together in our direction and free ourselves from Lagos/Abuja gang up that had affected all of us in the region.

20 independent countries? What a wawu. Niger Delta republic is bayelsa, Akwa Ibom, Edo, cross river, non Igbo speaking parts of Delta and rivers. Those ethnicities you speak of, if you understand the terrain and Niger Delta politics you'll know that ibibio , ijaw or urhobo even in Alliance as large as they are can't dominate the Niger Delta like Igbo hausa and Yoruba are doing to Nigeria now. So plan your biafra and we plan our Niger Delta republic, thanks.

Blackking98:
20 independent countries? What a wawu. Niger Delta republic is bayelsa, Akwa Ibom, Edo, cross river, non Igbo speaking parts of Delta and rivers. Those ethnicities you speak of, if you understand the terrain and Niger Delta politics you'll know that ibibio , ijaw or urhobo even in Alliance as large as they are can't dominate the Niger Delta like Igbo hausa and Yoruba are doing to Nigeria now. So plan your biafra and we plan our Niger Delta republic, thanks.

Ogoni is already a member of UNDPO and MOSSOP is even older than IPOB.
Oro has been in fight for independence as well. There used to be an Oro moniker on this forum years back who was leading the campaign.

Ijaw dominated and ruled old Rivers state with iron fist, so much that Saro Wiwa started campaigning against Ijaw reign.
The Igboids are completely dominating modern Rivers state as we speak.
Urhobos are virtually the kingmakers of Delta politics.


It's good to dream of a monolithic Niger delta republic as an Ibibio-Annang-Efik man whose population would automatically make a major dominant stake holder of such country, like IPOB are dreaming of a heterogeneous ethnic Biafra, but how about smaller groups like Ogoni
who are tired of playing minority even amongst minorities? Reality suggests how non-feasible those dreams are.

ificatchmodeh:


IPOB is not the problem... Kanu is the major problem.. he just lump everything together and believe he’s making sense.
Don’t know why IPOB is still doing with the fool.. the idiot don’t know what he want... Biafra or fame!

IPobians see Kanu as a demigod.
It is virtually impossible to separate IPOB from Nnamdi Kanu.

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Arrewa:
then tell Nnamdi kanu to remove them from his map!!

Why will he add them on Biafra map at the first place??

Those guys don reject una tire yet una no wan let go!!

If they open thread to counter your lies you'll start wailing and calling them Afonjas!

We all know you're after their oil...

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Arrewa:
you do!!

He's your Dilector and your Helo!!

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pazienza:


IPobians see Kanu as a demigod.
It is virtually impossible to separate IPOB from Nnamdi Kanu.

Reason why the entire IPOB thing is a joke.. and should not be taken serious.

Bunch of jokers

Soon I believe igbos will discard them

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waledeji:
Much ado about nothing

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Arrewa:
tell the impostor to come!

We already know that your leader is gone! Tell the impostor parading himself as Nnamadi kanu come...he will rot in jail!

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Arrewa:
Nahh tell him to come back to Nigeria!!

Buhari will jail him for 22 decades!

But wait... Look at this picture and tell yourself the truth!

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ificatchmodeh:


Reason why the entire IPOB thing is a joke.. and should not be taken serious.

Bunch of jokers

Soon I believe igbos will discard them

It's happening.
Imagine ropping the likes of Igala in Kogi into Biafra.
One wonder what they are smoking there.
What Igbo man would want such a Frankenstein monster country after enduring the tower of Babel called Nigeria?

How about us having our Independent Igbo only beautiful country, where Igbo language would be the lingua franca for education and all governmental proceedings.
Imagine how cool it would be for Biafra law makers to be debating issues in Biafra senate using Igbo language, national Anthem in Igbo language, teaching core science subjects in schools up to University level in Igbo language.
No more shouts of Igbo domination.

How cool will that be? Wonderful right? Why would any right thinking person sacrifice all that for a hopeless ethnic heterogeneous country where Pidgin English will be the lingua franca?

Ana afucha ebe ana echi ozo jebe ebe ana aru agwu?

pazienza:


It doesn't matter what you think about how they go about their own agitation, you have no right to assimilate them into your Biafra, they want no part of it. How is this very hard for IPOB to understand?
Why would you even what to form a country with a people who resent you, what would be the difference between such country and Nigeria?

Leave them alone. Work for your own freedom first, if they see you succeeding, they would start theirs. The likes of Albania were not fighting Serbia for independence until they saw Croatians and Slovenians fight Serbia, won and left Yugoslavia, then they all began pushing for their own independence from Serbia.

Leave the minorities, they have no interest in your biafra and hence constitute dead weights to the struggle if you keep roping them in. How hard is this to understand, what is wrong with us? Ifele ana emekwa unu?

Kosovo.......

Albania was never part of the Yugoslavia.

Arrewa:
then tell Nnamdi kanu to remove them from his map!!

Why will he add them on Biafra map at the first place??

Those guys don reject una tire yet una no wan let go!!

If they open thread to counter your lies you'll start wailing and calling them Afonjas!

We all know you're after their oil...

Which oil are u talking about?

We have all seen how useless it came to be.

Knowledge base economy is what people are clamouring for and not natural resources base.

I personally don't even want the niger delta to join biafra, it shouldnt be part of Biafra.

The Niger delta is currently a confuse entity of its own.... Adding them them to biafra is like creating another mini Nigeria which everyone is running from

mrvitalis:

You yorubas are the ones making kanu popular ....we don't give a fivk about him

Can you say this out loud
if those guys caught up with you saying this about him, they'll roast u life
I'm on one biafra FB page, few Igbo's that talk bad about Nnamdi Kanu are always brutally attack verbally to the extent that, such person picture will be circulated there and the member will be asked to get him cos he's an enemy of the state. But majority of them are illiterates (not insulting) coz what most of them post and believe is not even commonsensical

Benevento:

Kosovo.......

Albania was never part of the Yugoslavia.

Thanks.
My bad.

pazienza:


It's happening.
Imagine ropping the likes of Igala in Kogi into Biafra.
One wonder what they are smoking there.
What Igbo man would want such a Frankenstein country after enduring the tower of Babel called Nigeria?

How about us having our Independent Igbo only beautiful country, where Igbo language would be the lingua franca for education and all governmental proceedings.
Imagine how cool it would be for Biafra law makers to be debating issues in Biafra senate using Igbo language, national Anthem in Igbo language, teaching core science subjects in schools up to University level in Igbo language.
No more shouts of Igbo domination.

How cool will that be? Wonderful right? Why would any right thinking person sacrifice all that for a hopeless ethnic heterogeneous country where Pidgin English will be the lingua franca?

Ana afucha ebe ana echi ozo jebe ebe ana aru agwu?

Your clarity of thought is commendable. I share your sentiments too.

Deep inside me I believe Nnamdi Kanu is just raising awareness to let other Igboid groups know that they are welcome to Biafra if they so wish. The reason he had been demanding referendum.

A referendum will clear all doubts. At that point we will know who wish to go with us or not.

Isolating Igbos at this early stage is counter productive. It will make it so easy for the owners of Nigeria to continue perpetuation of their divide and rule strategy. He is playing and beating them at their own game. By the time Biafra is ready to pull out ,the rest of the Minorities in the east would have been sufficiently prepared to leave Nigeria on their own.

It is Nigeria duty to keep the minorities interested. Nnamdi Kanu job is to offer them alternative. We want to be safe and clear on many areas especially as concerns friendly occupants of our access to sea before going full haul. We will also be surrounded on all sides. Friendly neighbours are indispensable.

I would rather prefer my people join Biafra than have us in Ijaw dominated ND republic. Those guys are something else. If a country as little as Rwanda can make progress then no matter where you are located, with good leadership and governance such country can succeed.
I support pazienza's view of only Igboid country where hate and rancor would totally be eliminated.

LivingSage:

Can you say this out loud
if those guys caught up with you saying this about him, they'll roast u life
I'm on one biafra FB page, few Igbo's that talk bad about Nnamdi Kanu are always brutally attack verbally to the extent that, such person picture will be circulated there and the member will be asked to get him cos he's an enemy of the state. But majority of them are illiterates (not insulting) coz what most of them post and believe is not even commonsensical

What exactly are you doing in a Biafran Facebook page.

I am just imagining me going to any Yoruba facebook page ,to do what exactly.

You guys really have time I swear.

LivingSage:

Can you say this out loud
if those guys caught up with you saying this about him, they'll roast u life
I'm on one biafra FB page, few Igbo's that talk bad about Nnamdi Kanu are always brutally attack verbally to the extent that, such person picture will be circulated there and the member will be asked to get him cos he's an enemy of the state. But majority of them are illiterates (not insulting) coz what most of them post and believe is not even commonsensical

You want to tell me about igbos ? ...even ojukwu is all you guys have this ideas they are igbo leader

If you bring suggestions and its in line with our believes we would support you ...even if you are not igbo ...that doesn't make you our leader the day you go off point is the day everyone stops following Igbos

The average poverty index in SE is around 42.44%
Yet, some misguided elements will come here and say rubbish.

They are the poorest in the whole of the South.

No wonder they are forcing themselves on the SS. bunch of crooks

If una talk finish una go siddon. Nigeria is not dividing any time soon. The reason all these talks about division is stronger now is because of 2015 election. Some people lost, some people gained.

Better go n prepare for 2023 election because our lines of discussions are going to change in the build to it n many news making headlines then will be about it n it's permutations that will usher in a new power demography.

Unu kwulucha unu eme garri lijue afo. Thank you

nextdoor84:
I would rather prefer my people join Biafra than have us in Ijaw dominated ND republic. Those guys are something else. If a country as little as Rwanda can make progress then no matter where you are located, with good leadership and governance such country can succeed.
I support pazienza's view of only Igboid country where hate and rancor would totally be eliminated.

Hahahahaha... have been to Rwanda before?

pazienza:


It's happening.
Imagine ropping the likes of Igala in Kogi into Biafra.
One wonder what they are smoking there.
What Igbo man would want such a Frankenstein monster country after enduring the tower of Babel called Nigeria?

How about us having our Independent Igbo only beautiful country, where Igbo language would be the lingua franca for education and all governmental proceedings.
Imagine how cool it would be for Biafra law makers to be debating issues in Biafra senate using Igbo language, national Anthem in Igbo language, teaching core science subjects in schools up to University level in Igbo language.
No more shouts of Igbo domination.

How cool will that be? Wonderful right? Why would any right thinking person sacrifice all that for a hopeless ethnic heterogeneous country where Pidgin English will be the lingua franca?

Ana afucha ebe ana echi ozo jebe ebe ana aru agwu?

RESPECT...!!!

pazienza:


It's happening.
Imagine ropping the likes of Igala in Kogi into Biafra.
One wonder what they are smoking there.
What Igbo man would want such a Frankenstein monster country after enduring the tower of Babel called Nigeria?

How about us having our Independent Igbo only beautiful country, where Igbo language would be the lingua franca for education and all governmental proceedings.
Imagine how cool it would be for Biafra law makers to be debating issues in Biafra senate using Igbo language, national Anthem in Igbo language, teaching core science subjects in schools up to University level in Igbo language.
No more shouts of Igbo domination.

How cool will that be? Wonderful right? Why would any right thinking person sacrifice all that for a hopeless ethnic heterogeneous country where Pidgin English will be the lingua franca?

Ana afucha ebe ana echi ozo jebe ebe ana aru agwu?

cool i like your vibe, but you can't cut people off without giving them the right to choose. Hold your rantings till after referendum. I don't want to label you an afonja

fhranchez:
cool i like your vibe, but you can't cut people off without giving them the right to choose. Hold your rantings till after referendum. I don't want to label you an afonja

You don't force referendum on people who never invited you for it.
This should be common sense.
Niger delta republic have continuously told you they don't want or need your Biafra. What are you going there to conduct referendum for, are you the one to call referendum for them? Are saying they are not wise enough to know what they want? Don't you see how insulting and insensitive your call for Biafra referendum in Niger Delta is to the people there?

pazienza:


You don't force referendum on people who never invited you for it.
This should be common sense.
Niger delta republic have continuously told you they don't want or need your Biafra. What are you going there to conduct referendum for, are you the one to call referendum for them? Are saying they are not wise enough to know what they want? Don't you see how insulting and insensitive your call for Biafra referendum in Niger Delta is to the people there?

you mean the ones that received bribe from Nigeria Government, and so you know referendum isn't a thing of force, it's either you're IN or OUT.

pazienza:


You don't force referendum on people who never invited you for it.
This should be common sense.
Niger delta republic have continuously told you they don't want or need your Biafra. What are you going there to conduct referendum for, are you the one to call referendum for them? Are saying they are not wise enough to know what they want? Don't you see how insulting and insensitive your call for Biafra referendum in Niger Delta is to the people there?

I think more kanu's should spring up in order to divide the campaign of hate against him. This is where you come in, create a Facebook page I'm with you 100%

The same Yoruba are adding Niger Delta / south south to their oduduwa Republic - Edo state and Warri. Hypocrites

pazienza:


Ogoni is already a member of UNDPO and MOSSOP is even older than IPOB.
Oro has been in fight for independence as well. There used to be an Oro moniker on this forum years back who was leading the campaign.

Ijaw dominated and ruled old Rivers state with iron fist, so much that Saro Wiwa started campaigning against Ijaw reign.
The Igboids are completely dominating modern Rivers state as we speak.
Urhobos are virtually the kingmakers of Delta politics.


It's good to dream of a monolithic Niger delta republic as an Ibibio-Annang-Efik man whose population would automatically make a major dominant stake holder of such country, like IPOB are dreaming of a heterogeneous ethnic Biafra, but how about smaller groups like Ogoni
who are tired of playing minority even amongst minorities? Reality suggests how non-feasible those dreams are.

how are the Ogoins faring today in Rivers state?

The ikwerres are currently dealing with them ruthlessly,
is like they don't even exists when it comes to politics in Rivers state.

Where do you all claim the ikwerres are from? your guess is good as mine.

pazienza:


Ogoni is already a member of UNDPO and MOSSOP is even older than IPOB.
Oro has been in fight for independence as well. There used to be an Oro moniker on this forum years back who was leading the campaign.

Ijaw dominated and ruled old Rivers state with iron fist, so much that Saro Wiwa started campaigning against Ijaw reign.
The Igboids are completely dominating modern Rivers state as we speak.
Urhobos are virtually the kingmakers of Delta politics.


It's good to dream of a monolithic Niger delta republic as an Ibibio-Annang-Efik man whose population would automatically make a major dominant stake holder of such country, like IPOB are dreaming of a heterogeneous ethnic Biafra, but how about smaller groups like Ogoni
who are tired of playing minority even amongst minorities? Reality suggests how non-feasible those dreams are.

if we want to go by your logic Africa alone would have well over a hundred countries, talkless of culturally diverse continent's like Asia. There's no possible way Oro or ogoni or other minorities you speak of are going to have a separate country without following the bigger groups, be it ijaw or ibibio or urhobo, the Oro you speak of would be at advantage because the difference between an ibibio or efik man to an oro man is like finding the difference between ebonyi Igbo and Delta Igbo, it's still the same ibibio-efik-annang-oro family. Central and nothern Cross river alone has well over ten ethnic groups, will they also be divided into different countries? Niger Delta republic can't be like Nigeria because everyone will be in control of his or her destiny, there will be new states formed within the country for minorities, something like a new south south within the Niger Delta. Your idea of having more than 20 countries from niger Delta is really laughable. We are finding it hard to get biafra and Niger Delta republic you're talking about 20 new countries? Saying igbos will support the minorities to have their own countries free of ibibio or ijaw, support yourself and have your biafra before you start being another Lord lugard.