Timalt:


Thank you for responding. I respect that I truly do.

Now I want the world to see that behind all the facade, the doublespeak, the loaded language and the roundabout explanation that is exactly what you said and that is exactly what you believe and what your organization teach.

Like I said, when you made mention of the narrow door, you were referring to the Watchtower organization because that is what your Bible teach book, that your yellow book teaches.

But there's more, and I want all the world to bear me witness as I post it from your watchtower -

"Just as Noah and his God-fearing family were preserved in the ark, survival of individuals today depends on their faith and their loyal association with the earthly part of Jehovah's universal organization." - Watchtower 2006 May 15 p.22

See image below to see it directly from their own publication.

As you can see they teach that survival of individuals depend on their faith and loyal association with the earthly part of Jehovah’s organization.

Maximus69 here is the proof you asked for. Clear for the world to see.

I ask all my Christian brothers and sisters here, please does the Bible teach that we are saved by association with an organization? Cc
OLAADEGBU
OpenYourEyes1
Gombs
davidinchrist

I want people to see what this organization really thinks of you. Behind all those loaded language, if you listen carefully you will truly understand what they mean.

Dear friend, what actually matters is that we FOCUS on believing and Obeying Jesus Words in Matthew, Mark, Luke and John to be Saved: as Doers NOT just Hearers and Speakers/Teachers, deceiving our OWN selves.

All these theories about this, that and the other groups/organizations are not necessarily profitable cos they just lead us to endless empty talks: I want to prove that MINE is BETTER; You want to prove to us that yours is MUCH better; and other person wants to prove that his is MUCH MORE BETTER than the rest:

It's all empty!

Bearing good fruits through Obedience to Jesus is the MAIN THING, not many words.

The kingdom of God is NOT just words but POWER (To live Holy and overcome Evil).

Meanwhile, feel free to see ONE (if not ALL) of the following posts of mine on things about LIES/DECEPTIONS in Christendom in general, "IF" you so wish:

https://www.nairaland.com/5886662/men-sheeps-clothing

https://www.nairaland.com/5669380/dealing-all-men-god-modified

https://www.nairaland.com/5877652/two-types-preachers

https://www.nairaland.com/5844877/still-under-law-old-covenant

https://www.nairaland.com/5838308/some-common-lies-false-pastors

May Jesus Bless You

OLAADEGBU:




Why the blasphemy? You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain! Don't use your lips (fingers) to dishonour God!



When you put the quotation through the prism of your Watchtower magazine you are bound to see something different and twisted.



First of all, we do not serve the same Master. The one you claim to be Jesus is actually the arch angel Michael and I do not worship an arch angel but you do.



You preach and follow a fake Jesus don't push it. The preceding verse explains itself without seeing it through the prism of the Watchtower magazine.



Jesus was telling His disciple that their joy must be in the fact that they are born again, that their names are written in heaven - it is this that folks like you who claim to be wise and prudent will not and do not understand. The fact that Timalt could see through your lies is the spiritual understanding I was referring to but then I do not expect you to understand since you have been indoctrinated that heaven has been saturated with the allocated numbers - the reason you do not partake of the Lord's Supper.



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Stop misquoting what you do not understand.



Since your 'salvation' depends on the amount of Watchtower magazines you hawk. Continue.



Read and hear what Jesus is saying about you and your sect:



You can see that it is not new that folks have been going out witnessing but as you can see the verse above, you are not bringing anyone to God and none of your 'converts' are born again.



You may call Christians stupid but I am happy that we have now established here that those who call themselves wise and prudent have zero spiritual understanding.



You might just replace that Darwin book with your Watchtower magazine.

Just work hard with your Daddy Superitendent to form one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers globally like Jehovah's Witnesses! Isaiah 2:2-4 compare to Micah 4:1-3

People throughout the earth know Jehovah's Witnesses as the most peaceful religionists on this planet.

They're only shocked to know that if they don't join us they will perish when God's kingdom comes!

The reason is because God wants people to live forever on planet earth {Psalms 37:8-11} that's why Jesus came to teach us how to live peacefully without being too much ambitious {Luke 12:17-21} because love for riches will not allow us to focus on the more important things! Luke 18:18-23

So gather PEACEFUL PEOPLE the way Jehovah's Witnesses did instead of thinking they will be roasted in fire forever because they're not paying TITHE to Kumuyi!

davidinchrist:



Dear friend, what actually matters is that we FOCUS on believing and Obeying Jesus Words in Matthew, Mark, Luke and John to be Saved: as Doers NOT just Hearers and Speakers/Teachers, deceiving our OWN selves.

All these theories about this, that and the other groups/organizations are not necessarily profitable cos they just lead us to endless empty talks: I want to prove that MINE is BETTER; You want to prove to us that yours is MUCH better; and other person wants to prove that his is MUCH MORE BETTER than the rest:

It's all empty!

Bearing good fruits through Obedience to Jesus is the MAIN THING, not many words.

The kingdom of God is NOT just words but POWER (To live Holy and overcome Evil).

Meanwhile, feel free to see ONE (if not ALL) of the following posts of mine on things about LIES/DECEPTIONS in Christendom in general, "IF" you so wish:

https://www.nairaland.com/5886662/men-sheeps-clothing

https://www.nairaland.com/5669380/dealing-all-men-god-modified

https://www.nairaland.com/5877652/two-types-preachers

https://www.nairaland.com/5844877/still-under-law-old-covenant

https://www.nairaland.com/5838308/some-common-lies-false-pastors

May Jesus Bless You

Thank you so much sir. Indeed accepting the words of our lord, doing them and bearing fruits of Righteousness is what God blesses, and I agree 10000% sir. Thanks.

It's just that sometimes when I see people propagating evil lies as doctrines, that only they will be saved at their "armageddon" because they belong to an organization that follows 7 whitemen and 1 black Man in America, I have to expose such evil groups who go around recruiting unsuspecting people as to how harmful their doctrines and policies are.

But I appreciate your wisdom sir. May Jesus Bless you too sir.

Jesus himself prayed fervently on his knees to JEHOVAH whose blessings Jesus himself needed on his hard work! John 17:8-23

So instead of all these exchange of false pleasantries that will not go beyond faceless social media, go out there and unite members of your rival Churches.

JEHOVAH has answered Jesus' prayer over his global family of peace loving worshipers, they're globally known as Jehovah's Witnesses!

Gather yourselves together so that the world of unbelievers may praise your God as everyone is talking about Jehovah's Witnesses today saying "there is love amongst this people" John 13:34-35

Maximus69:
Jesus himself prayed fervently on his knees to JEHOVAH whose blessings Jesus himself needed on his hard work! John 17:8-23

So instead of all these exchange of false pleasantries that will not go beyond faceless social media, go out there and unite members of your rival Churches.

JEHOVAH has answered Jesus' prayer over his global family of peace loving worshipers, they're globally known as Jehovah's Witnesses!

Gather yourselves together so that the world of unbelievers may praise your God as everyone is talking about Jehovah's Witnesses today saying "there is love amongst this people" John 13:34-35

The first page in this thread will silence all these liars, let them go and refute all the comments in the first page.

They prefer darkness to light, lies to truth.

All they just want to hear is that this wonderful Organization is on the same page as their confused TRINITY Churches!

TATIME:


The first page in this thread will silence all these liars, let them go and refute all the comments in the first page.

They prefer darkness to light, lies to truth.

All they just want to hear is that this wonderful Organization is on the same page as their confused TRINITY Churches!

What friendship could be between light and darkness? 2Corinthians 6:14-18

Let them go and meet their Pastors, Papas, Mamas, Daddy and Mommy GOs, Daddy and Mommy Superintendent in their MYSTERY Churches!

Jehovah's Witnesses are well organized people and orderly we're not, can not and will never be part of their nonsense and ingredients!

Maximus69:


AYE!
Kumuyi Pikin!

I wonder what Kumuyi infused in your brains that makes you people discriminate against members of Cele, C & S, Christ Embassy, Synagogues or why your Daddy Superitendent never ministered in any of those churches?

We are Jehovah's Witnesses!

We will school you with our book (Bible) it's our ancestors that penned it down that's why we are able to defend what is WRITTEN in the book at anytime, anywhere and before anybody! Isaiah 54:17

Do well to quote the scriptures to prove or explain why Kumuyi will not minister in those Churches if truthfully you're not just gullibly following his man-made doctrines!

What you put up there Is a complete lie.

The above video links will prove you wrong

Nicolars:
Jw ar actually not bad

People just critisizes them bcus they preach d truth

And wat now surprises me is dat, no matter wat they say, they always back it up with d bible, hw come they ar false xtians

Remember the devil also quote the bible verse

MVLOX:


Ask urself dis fine question....where did Adam and Eve go to? Where did God say dey will go too if dey die? Just like Adam and Eve unbeliever will go to Hell which is d common grave of man.

So where does the soul of the man Go to.


What then happen to the man hereafter

engineerboat:

So where does the soul of the man Go to.
What then happen to the man hereafter

Where does the soul of Adam go to?

Genesis 2:7 ~God formed the man (Adam) from the dust of the ground, and to blow into his nostril the breathe of life and the man became a living soul!

What happened to Adam hereafter?

Genesis 3:19 ~Adam is from the dust and he will return to the dust!

When he died he has paid fully for his sin! Romans 6:7

Maximus69:


Just work hard with your Daddy Superitendent to form one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers globally like Jehovah's Witnesses! Isaiah 2:2-4 compare to Micah 4:1-3

People throughout the earth know Jehovah's Witnesses as the most peaceful religionists on this planet.

They're only shocked to know that if they don't join us they will perish when God's kingdom comes!

The reason is because God wants people to live forever on planet earth {Psalms 37:8-11} that's why Jesus came to teach us how to live peacefully without being too much ambitious {Luke 12:17-21} because love for riches will not allow us to focus on the more important things! Luke 18:18-23

So gather PEACEFUL PEOPLE the way Jehovah's Witnesses did instead of thinking they will be roasted in fire forever because they're not paying TITHE to Kumuyi!

I just walked past one of your 'kingdom halls' and noticed that they had no windows at all. What is so secret that you will not build a window into any of your halls?

OLAADEGBU:


I just walked past one of your 'kingdom halls' and noticed that they had no windows at all. What is so secret that you will not build a window into any of your halls?

Does Cultists need windows?

Abegi leave this people with their cult jare, at least they're the most peaceful group on the surface of the earth.
Certainly the Prince of Peace will throw all of them inside Hellfire and Lake of Fire together for making PEACE reign in their midst while they're Cultists!

Maximus69:


Does Cultists need windows?

Abegi leave this people with their cult jare, at least they're the most peaceful group on the surface of the earth.
Certainly the Prince of Peace will throw all of them inside Hellfire and Lake of Fire together for making PEACE reign in their midst while they're Cultists!

If what you and your JW colleagues displayed on this forum is what you call making peace then Islam is truly a religion of peace.

www.nairaland.com/attachments/11621899_Islamreligionofpeace1_jpg65881a9cc7dad8926b9d7f0b3ee05b32

OLAADEGBU:

If what you and your JW colleagues displayed on this forum is what you call making peace then Islam is truly a religion of peace.

Great so what have you got to say about Deeperlife regarding PEACE MAKING?

Abi your own group have no business with PEACE?

Maximus69:


Great so what have you got to say about Deeperlife regarding PEACE MAKING?

Abi your own group have no business with PEACE?

“Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword” (Matthew 10:34).

You will be mistaken if you've been led to believe that Jesus was a pacifist. There will be no peace until all unrighteousness is put down and suppressed. The Person and true gospel of Jesus Christ will always bring about the enmity of satan and his agents and it is a warfare as you can see we are currently having. The battle against sin, satan and his agents will not end until all unrighteousness is put down and conquered.

www.nairaland.com/attachments/11622100_religionvsgospel1_jpeg917c2412e11a087aaea2bc7f8f70f074

OLAADEGBU:

You will be mistaken if you've been led to believe that Jesus was a pacifist. There will be no peace until all unrighteousness is put down and suppressed

Jesus said there can't be peace between the forces of light and that of darkness for sure! Matthew 10:34-39

The Person and true gospel of Jesus Christ will always bring about the enmity of satan and his agents and it is a warfare as you can see we are currently having

Of course we can never agree since we're not on the same page! 2Corinthians 6:14

The battle against sin, satan and his agents will not end until all unrighteousness is put down and conquered

Definitely that's correct, but what about in the gathering of the subjects of the Prince of Peace, are you saying they also can't have PEACE amongst themselves? John 16:33

Why is it that Trinitarians have failed to make peace reign amongst themselves?

Yet they want to claim they're followers of the Prince of Peace!

TATIME:


Your friend thought his fellow Churchgoers don't understand the sign language of the JW group!

Pray with you~ NO
Fellowship with you~NO
Marry you~NO
Sharing the same belief~NO
Popular Religious Titles~NO
Politics~NO
Racial prejudice~NO
Religious Festivities~NO
Worship Songs (Gospel music)~NO
Preaching Method~ Extremely different

And you're still expecting that this people are worshiping the same God as you do!

Walahi Talahi Satan can blind people hen! 2Corinthians 4:4

But you go preaching using Matthew 6:9,10 and confidently read it as OUR FATHER. Were they to ask you after reading, is that verse talking about the GOD of JWS ALONE. How will you ANSWER?

Since you know there GOD is different from your own which you state is the TRUE GOD. Did your TRUE God ask you to JUDGE them?

achorladey:



But you go preaching using Matthew 6:9,10 and confidently read it as OUR FATHER. Were they to ask you after reading, is that verse talking about the GOD of JWS ALONE. How will you ANSWER?

Since you know there GOD is different from your own which you state is the TRUE GOD. Did your TRUE God ask you to JUDGE them?

Our father means our grand Creator but it's not everyone that's worshiping him acceptably! John 4:22

Jesus doesn't mean Christians shouldn't make their stand firm before unbelievers,

"don't judge simply means"

"don't kill any sinner, wait for God"

But when unbelievers tries to say "we are on the same page" we must make them realise that is a lie! John 8:44

TATIME:


Our father means our grand Creator but it's not everyone that's worshiping him acceptably! John 4:22

Jesus doesn't mean Christians shouldn't make their stand firm before unbelievers,

"don't judge simply means"

"don't kill any sinner, wait for God"

But when unbelievers tries to say "we are on the same page" we must make them realise that is a lie! John 8:44

Sing out Joyfully to Jehovah.
Song 80~ "Taste and see that Jehovah is Good"

For a certainty
"We know we've done all we could"

How do they think Noah peached to his contemporaries about the impending flood? If not~
"come and stay with me in the Ark if you want to live because everyone outside will die" Luke 17:26-7

How do they think Lot's warning to his sons in-law will sound? If not~
"Sodom and Gomorrah will be destroyed, only those with me will be saved" Genesis 19:14

How do they think Rahab's (prostitute) message to her families will sound? If not~
"Jericho and all it's inhabitants will perish except those hiding in my house" Joshua 2:17-21

Surely Jehovah, Jesus and all the heavenly host know for a Certainty that their blood is on their own heads because

WE KNOW WE'VE DONE ALL WE COULD! song 80 "Sing out Joyfully to Jehovah"

TATIME:


Our father means our grand Creator but it's not everyone that's worshiping him acceptably! John 4:22

Jesus doesn't mean Christians shouldn't make their stand firm before unbelievers,

"don't judge simply means"

"don't kill any sinner, wait for God"

But when unbelievers tries to say "we are on the same page" we must make them realise that is a lie! John 8:44

TATIME:Our father means our grand Creator but it's not everyone that's worshiping him acceptably! John 4:22

TATIME: Our father means our grand Creator BUT it's not everyone that's worshiping him acceptably! John 4:22

Achorladey: The question is.....is that verse talking about the GOD of JWS ALONE. How will you ANSWER?

From the RESPONSE above NO. simple, who talks about those worshipping HIM ACCEPTABLY or NOT.

TATIME: it's not everyone that's worshiping him acceptably! John 4:22

Achorladey: How do you worship GOD acceptably? What's the essence of the scripture cited? I read it and could only ask, are you a JEW.

TATIME: They don't worship GOD acceptably, then WE ARE on the same PAGE we made them realise that is a LIE.

Achorladey: Back and forth usual. From the above previously GOD is our GRAND CREATOR. That they don't worship him acceptably means they don't worship him STILL didn't make God not their FATHER.

TATIME: don't judge simply means"" don't kill any sinner, wait for God"

Achorladey: One can only laugh at the above. Don't know when JUDGE becomes SYNONYM for KILL. Or perhaps your Muslim background never WEAR OFF. :

When judicial proceedings and committee to judge the brother and sister within your midst, ARE THEY KILLING THEM? Following your DEFINITION above.

TATIME: Your friend thought his fellow Churchgoers don't understand the sign language of the JW group! cheesy cheesy cheesy

Pray with you~ NOT UNIQUE to JWs alone
Fellowship with you~NOT unique to JWs alone
Marry you~NOT unique to JW alone
Sharing the same belief~NOT unique to JWs alone
Popular Religious Titles~NOT unique to JWs alone equally have religious titles like every other
Politics~ even within their gatherings HIGH LEVEL politics takes place.
Racial prejudice~NOT unique to JWs alone
Religious Festivities~NOT unique to JWs alone
Worship Songs (Gospel music)~NOT unique to JWs alone but will prefer WORLDLY ones with debased words worst that cannot be found in Gospel songs
Preaching Method~ Extremely different not in anyway UNIQUE

TATIME: And you're still expecting that this people are worshiping the same God as you do!

The OUR FATHER is the GRAND CREATOR of everyone on EARTH

Walahi Talahi Satan can blind people hen! 2Corinthians 4:4 easy to point at others defect while they love HIDING theirs

achorladey:
TATIME: Your friend thought his fellow Churchgoers don't understand the sign language of the JW group! cheesy cheesy cheesy

Pray with you~ NOT UNIQUE to JWs alone
Fellowship with you~NOT unique to JWs alone
Marry you~NOT unique to JW alone
Sharing the same belief~NOT unique to JWs alone
Popular Religious Titles~NOT unique to JWs alone equally have religious titles like every other
Politics~ even within their gatherings HIGH LEVEL politics takes place.
Racial prejudice~NOT unique to JWs alone
Religious Festivities~NOT unique to JWs alone
Worship Songs (Gospel music)~NOT unique to JWs alone but will prefer WORLDLY ones with debased words worst that cannot be found in Gospel songs
Preaching Method~ Extremely different not in anyway UNIQUE

TATIME: And you're still expecting that this people are worshiping the same God as you do!

The OUR FATHER is the GRAND CREATOR of everyone on EARTH

Walahi Talahi Satan can blind people hen! 2Corinthians 4:4 easy to point at others defect while they love HIDING theirs

You know the funniest thing, the jw's replying you here don't even believe they are children of God. That's how crazy their belief is. The believe that only the 144,000 are children of God or sons of God. They don't believe they are christ brothers as shown in Matthew 25. They believe only the 144,000 are christ brothers. And for them essentially the foremost part of the 144,000 are their 7 white men and 1 black man in America.

For every other jw who claims to be a member of 144,000, their choosing by God is under scrutiny as they are taught those people may have mental problems.

Back to my point, these guys here believe they are Friends of God not children of God. That is to show you how messed up doctrines are. Where in the new testament are Christians called God's friends for God's sake?
The only person called God's friend was Abraham. And Abraham lived before the Christian Era. He was referenced in James 23 as God's friend.

I ask any jw here to show us from the Bible where some Christians are God's friends?

I asked them to prove their 1919 doctrine here, not a single response.

For any body reading this who is not a jw, I would not tell you whether to join them or not, all I would say is you owe it to yourself to research independently about them before you join. www.jwfacts.com
www.jw.support
www.ajwrb.org
www.jwsurvey.org

Timalt:


You know the funniest thing, the jw's replying you here don't even believe they are children of God. That's how crazy their belief is. The believe that only the 144,000 are children of God or sons of God. They don't believe they are christ brothers as shown in Matthew 25. They believe only the 144,000 are christ brothers. And for them essentially the foremost part of the 144,000 are their 7 white men and 1 black man in America.

For every other jw who claims to be a member of 144,000, their choosing by God is under scrutiny as they are taught those people may have mental problems.

Back to my point, these guys here believe they are Friends of God not children of God. That is to show you how messed up doctrines are. Where in the new testament are Christians called God's friends for God's sake?
The only person called God's friend was Abraham. And Abraham lived before the Christian Era. He was referenced in James 23 as God's friend.

I ask any jw here to show us from the Bible where some Christians are God's friends?

I asked them to prove their 1919 doctrine here, not a single response.

For any body reading this who is not a jw, I would not tell you whether to join them or not, all I would say is you owe it to yourself to research independently about them before you join. www.jwfacts.com
www.jw.support
www.ajwrb.org
www.jwsurvey.org

Interesting
Something I found out recently is no matter how the knowledge you have come to known about JEHOVAH ,good, trustworthy loving running away from things God hates after years of studying the BIBLE with them but say to their FACE YOU WILL NEVER become ONE of JWs.

The JWS will never BAPTIZE that person. Yet what did Matthew 28:19,20 states PLEDGING ALLEGIANCE to an ORGANIZATION is not part of the CRITERIA for getting baptized. After all no one was EVER baptized into an ORGANIZATION by Jesus or his apostles.

paragraph 19........

The student might answer, ‘I do not mind studying the Bible, but I will NEVER BECOME ONE OF JEHOVAH’S WITNESSES!’ If that is his attitude after he has studied for some time, is there any point in continuing the study? .......... January 2020 watchtower. Article number 1.... Go therefore and make DISCIPLES

In the land of the JWs any Bible student ( those they conduct bible study with) that will not BOW to the ORGANIZATION cannot be BAPTIZED but what DID Jesus say in Matthew 28:19,20?

Becoming one of JWS is Never a requirement for baptism. No wonder anyone that wants to leave the ORGANIZATION. must write disassociation letter or resignation letter.

achorladey:



Interesting
Something I found out recently is no matter how the knowledge you have come to known about JEHOVAH ,good, trustworthy loving running away from things God hates after years of studying the BIBLE with them but say to their FACE YOU WILL NEVER become ONE of JWs.

The JWS will never BAPTIZE that person. Yet what did Matthew 28:19,20 states PLEDGING ALLEGIANCE to an ORGANIZATION is not part of the CRITERIA for getting baptized. After all no one was EVER baptized into an ORGANIZATION by Jesus or his apostles.

paragraph 19........

The student might answer, ‘I do not mind studying the Bible, but I will NEVER BECOME ONE OF JEHOVAH’S WITNESSES!’ If that is his attitude after he has studied for some time, is there any point in continuing the study? .......... January 2020 watchtower. Article number 1.... Go therefore and make DISCIPLES

In the land of the JWs any Bible student ( those they conduct bible study with) that will not BOW to the ORGANIZATION cannot be BAPTIZED but what DID Jesus say in Matthew 28:19,20?

Becoming one of JWS is Never a requirement for baptism. No wonder anyone that wants to leave the ORGANIZATION. must write disassociation letter or resignation letter.

You know them well my brother. They are baptized to an organization and not to christ. Even their second baptism question shows that. The question goes like this : Do you recognize that your dedication and baptism identify you as one of jehovah's witnesses in association with Jehovah's spirit directed organization?
And the person is supposed to answer yes!

Abeg where in the Bible did the disciples baptize people in association to any organization?
I ask any jw to show me one place in the Bible.

Timalt:


You know them well my brother. They are baptized to an organization and not to christ. Even their second baptism question shows that. The question goes like this : Do you recognize that your dedication and baptism identify you as one of jehovah's witnesses in association with Jehovah's spirit directed organization?
And the person is supposed to answer yes!

Abeg where in the Bible did the disciples baptize people in association to any organization?
I ask any jw to show me one place in the Bible.

It looks somehow that they can stop studying bible with someone because he choose not to pledge ALLEGIANCE to an organization. Didn't the Bible encourage meeting together to incite ourselves to do FINE THINGS. Must one pledge ALLEGIANCE to an organization before he/she is encouraged to do fine things from God's word.

By the way second baptismal question changed to.......

Do you understand that your baptism identifies you as one of Jehovah’s Witnesses in ASSOCIATION with Jehovah’s organization?

Spirit directed gone to God knows where.

Anyone that wants to join the ORGANIZATION should to seek detailed explanation and get to understand what ASSOCIATION means in the land of JWs. Your YES to the second question means you are SUBJECTED to the BYE LAWS of the ORGANIZATION and should you choose to LEAVE you have TO DISASSOCIATE(DISASSOCIATION) with the numerous consequence that comes with it.

Should you decides to FADE AWAY the ARMS of the BYE LAWS are still all over you and you are WATCHED.

They will easy say they don't do INFANT BAPTISM. But one wonders what knowledge and experience in life a 7-11 years have and the one between 1-3 to three have to commit and make a decision that has numerous REPERCUSSIONS they are not aware of in FUTURE.

Maximus69:


Sing out Joyfully to Jehovah.
Song 80~ "Taste and see that Jehovah is Good"

For a certainty
"We know we've done all we could"

How do they think Noah peached to his contemporaries about the impending flood? If not~
"come and stay with me in the Ark if you want to live because everyone outside will die" Luke 17:26-7

How do they think Lot's warning to his sons in-law will sound? If not~
"Sodom and Gomorrah will be destroyed, only those with me will be saved" Genesis 19:14

How do they think Rahab's (prostitute) message to her families will sound? If not~
"Jericho and all it's inhabitants will perish except those hiding in my house" Joshua 2:17-21

Surely Jehovah, Jesus and all the heavenly host know for a Certainty that their blood is on their own heads because

WE KNOW WE'VE DONE ALL WE COULD! song 80 "Sing out Joyfully to Jehovah"

Certainly my brother,

We know we've done all we could

May Jehovah continue to bless you my brother!

TATIME:


Certainly my brother,

We know we've done all we could

May Jehovah continue to bless you my brother!

May Jehovah bless you guys more and much more in abundance for opening my eyes to seeing the quagmire credulous religionists are unknowingly into!

achorladey:



It looks somehow that they can stop studying bible with someone because he choose not to pledge ALLEGIANCE to an organization. Didn't the Bible encourage meeting together to incite ourselves to do FINE THINGS. Must one pledge ALLEGIANCE to an organization before he/she is encouraged to do fine things from God's word.

By the way second baptismal question changed to.......

Do you understand that your baptism identifies you as one of Jehovah’s Witnesses in ASSOCIATION with Jehovah’s organization?

Spirit directed gone to God knows where.

Anyone that wants to join the ORGANIZATION should to seek detailed explanation and get to understand what ASSOCIATION means in the land of JWs. Your YES to the second question means you are SUBJECTED to the BYE LAWS of the ORGANIZATION and should you choose to LEAVE you have TO DISASSOCIATE(DISASSOCIATION) with the numerous consequence that comes with it.

Should you decides to FADE AWAY the ARMS of the BYE LAWS are still all over you and you are WATCHED.

They will easy say they don't do INFANT BAPTISM. But one wonders what knowledge and experience in life a 7-11 years have and the one between 1-3 to three have to commit and make a decision that has numerous REPERCUSSIONS they are not aware of in FUTURE.

Wow! They have removed the spirit directed from the question? Time will tell what they have up their sleeves. We are watching.

Exactly about the baptism. One yearbook experience talks of a 6 year old baptized child. 7 years is even more frequent these days. Just imagine a 7 - 10 year old child signing a contract that he or she can never leave. A child that cannot even drive, vote, or even marry under the law is making a life altering decision of entering a contract with an organization he knows nothing about just because he has finished studying the yellow book. The "Bible teach book" and the other book "remain in something love". It's crazy.

In this day and age, no one should go into any religion at all without doing extensive independent background research. Not to talk of a religion that Is a high control group that many would call a cult.

For anyone wanting to know about the jehovah's witnesses, after you goto their own jehovah's witnesses website, compare it with www.jwfacts.com

After all you would not buy something online without reading the reviews and feedbacks. Do the same. Do a fair, balanced research of this group and hear both sides and then make your decision.

Timalt:

Wow! They have removed the spirit directed from the question? Time will tell what they have up their sleeves. We are watching.

Exactly about the baptism. One yearbook experience talks of a 6 year old baptized child. 7 years is even more frequent these days. Just imagine a 7 - 10 year old child signing a contract that he or she can never leave. A child that cannot even drive, vote, or even marry under the law is making a life altering decision of entering a contract with an organization he knows nothing about just because he has finished studying the yellow book. The "Bible teach book" and the other book "remain in something love". It's crazy.

In this day and age, no one should go into any religion at all without doing extensive independent background research. Not to talk of a religion that Is a high control group that many would call a cult.

For anyone wanting to know about the jehovah's witnesses, after you goto their own jehovah's witnesses website, compare it with www.jwfacts.com

After all you would not buy something online without reading the reviews and feedbacks. Do the same. Do a fair, balanced research of this group and hear both sides and then make your decision.

The organization is NOT following man-made tradition Sir!

Our own God is Jehovah, so the light is getting brighter by the day {Proverbs 4:18} when God's Organization gives orders we all comply.

But as for baptizing a seven years old child to become a preacher and teacher, think of the God whose priests anointed a SEVEN year old boy as King over his own people {2Kings 11:21} surely this God does not think the way the people of the world thinks Sir! Isaiah 55:8-9

That's why we are always careful not to disturb his spirit as it's burning in the heart of our young Christian soldiers! 1Samuel 17:31-37

We are Jehovah's Witnesses, we fear most the person Jehovah is ready to use for his work than the most intelligent, most powerful, most educated unbeliever in the world! 2Timothy 3:15-17

Maximus69:


The organization is NOT following man-made tradition Sir!

Our own God is Jehovah, so the light is getting brighter by the day {Proverbs 4:18} when God's Organization gives orders we all comply.

But as for baptizing a seven years old child to become a preacher and teacher, think of the God whose priests anointed a SEVEN year old boy as King over his own people {2Kings 11:21} surely this God does not think the way the people of the world thinks Sir! Isaiah 55:8-9

That's why we are always careful not to disturb his spirit as it's burning in the heart of our young Christian soldiers! 1Samuel 17:31-37

We are Jehovah's Witnesses, we fear most the person Jehovah is ready to use for his work than the most intelligent, most powerful, most educated unbeliever in the world! 2Timothy 3:15-17

So why were the ORGANIZATION you belong CONDEMNING other religious DENOMINATIONS for infant baptism since you agree your organization do infant baptism when they know GOD installs SEVEN YEAR OLDS as kings.

Story go change again.

Maximus69:


The organization is NOT following man-made tradition Sir!

Our own God is Jehovah, so the light is getting brighter by the day {Proverbs 4:18} when God's Organization gives orders we all comply.

But as for baptizing a seven years old child to become a preacher and teacher, think of the God whose priests anointed a SEVEN year old boy as King over his own people {2Kings 11:21} surely this God does not think the way the people of the world thinks Sir! Isaiah 55:8-9

That's why we are always careful not to disturb his spirit as it's burning in the heart of our young Christian soldiers! 1Samuel 17:31-37

We are Jehovah's Witnesses, we fear most the person Jehovah is ready to use for his work than the most intelligent, most powerful, most educated unbeliever in the world! 2Timothy 3:15-17

Maximus69: The organization is NOT following man-made tradition Sir!

Achorladey: where did you get baptism in the name of an ORGANIZATION from? God tradition or man-made tradition

Timalt:


Thank you so much sir. Indeed accepting the words of our lord, doing them and bearing fruits of Righteousness is what God blesses, and I agree 10000% sir. Thanks.

It's just that sometimes when I see people propagating evil lies as doctrines, that only they will be saved at their "armageddon" because they belong to an organization that follows 7 whitemen and 1 black Man in America, I have to expose such evil groups who go around recruiting unsuspecting people as to how harmful their doctrines and policies are.

But I appreciate your wisdom sir. May Jesus Bless you too sir.

I believe davidinchrist is in a WAY making reference to John 15: 1- 10 we should never get ourselves to leave the TRUE VINE. The TRUE VINE was never called a RELIGIOUS DENOMINATION or an ORGANIZATION.