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seyi360:


There should be a limit to what a preacher says about his past life especially while preaching.
When a preacher says
"back in the days, I slept around with my mother's mates"
"I used to be a serial fornicator and rapist"
"I was a murderer and a burglar " etc

Really? And you're proud of such acts? I think that clearly is the height of ecclesiastical insensitivity.

Such unguarded statements has the tendency of poking unhealed wounds in the hearts of some of your listeners , opening you up to temptations and easily making you a victim of extended hatred.

You're called to be a healer, not a killer.

It depends on how u see it. There are several people who are into such habits and cant seem to stop it. It is more like an encouragement to them that no matter how bad your situation is, you can still change and you can live a better and valuable life

R

MuttleyLaff:


Whats your problem? Why are you so ever truculent, hmm?
The guy OP, is talking about try to be sensitive whenever drawing up past escapades because they might be people in the audience still trying to deal with the past of theirs they aren't proud of and so shoved to the remotest part of their mind so not to relive or remember it and you've gone gung ho asking him, if its wrong for followers of Jesus Christ to admit they too had a sin-fillled past like every one else.

How you managed to overlook or ignore the intro "There should be a limit to what a preacher says about his past life especially while preaching..." is baffling. Limit, fyi, means boundary(ies)

New word alert. Truculent

seyi360:


There should be a limit to what a preacher says about his past life especially while preaching.
When a preacher says
"back in the days, I slept around with my mother's mates"
"I used to be a serial fornicator and rapist"
"I was a murderer and a burglar " etc

Really? And you're proud of such acts? I think that clearly is the height of ecclesiastical insensitivity.

Such unguarded statements has the tendency of poking unhealed wounds in the hearts of some of your listeners , opening you up to temptations and easily making you a victim of extended hatred.

You're called to be a healer, not a killer.

Every one eventually knows who they are.
But some people in the ministry say things to validate their teaching and not God.
Many of them are actually lying. But Christ is preached. Let God be their judge. You can tell them your opinion when you encounter one rather than nursing bitterness against them unknowingly.

Same applies to Pastors and Evangelists who are ex herbalists, ex cultists, ex robbers etc who build a whole preaching carrier around their past horrible and sinful life.

One of them would even dress in his herbalist demonic attire on a crusade ground to pull crowd. Narrating his oddyssey in the dark world.
Sharing stories that does not glorify God or edify the saints.
Preachers need to draw the line between entertaining the church and edifying the church.

Preach the word!

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Honestly.

One pastor like that all his preaching are about when he was in the world and all the juju he used to do then sotey person come dey reason am say e be like the man never commot hand for those things o.

Small time e go share money or sweet for children for church.
Dem go dey do some kind things.

Na only God know.

I think most Pastors need to read/study Guidance and Counselling in the University before taking up the microphone.I think most Pastors need to read/study Guidance and Counselling in the University before taking up the microphone.I think most Pastors need to read/study Guidance and Counselling in the University before taking up the microphone.

seyi360:
2 Corinthians 7:2
[2]Receive us; we have wronged no man, we have corrupted no man, we have defrauded no man.

Rather than dwelling on his notorious past as a persecutor of Christians to impress ,the great Apostle Paul talked more about his regenerated new self and focused on the things before him.

In fact, in the scripture above, he denied his wayward past.

You big be olodo. Coconut head. U read thebible upside down. You just cut one verse without following the story. Paul was dwelling on the present, of course why lock him up when he has done nothing. This is a direct opposite of what the topic is, In Galatians 1 vs 13 - 14 Paul talks about his past. Even in organisations as a leader when you want to motivate unserious workers, you coulf site urself as an example and explain your past.You could tell them there is nothing profitable in what they are presently doing and if they want to be successful in their position there is neex for change. It is done everywhere not only in churches and it is done to motivate people.Even in your family, it will get to a point you would tell you children of your past and how what they are doing doesnt pay them

DennisEche:
Seyi360 big ups to you for bring on this topic. Any time I hear a preacher boasting about his women excesses in the past , it sounds so awkward and not necessary.

Thanks bro

seyi360:


There should be a limit to what a preacher says about his past life especially while preaching.
When a preacher says
"back in the days, I slept around with my mother's mates"
"I used to be a serial fornicator and rapist"
"I was a murderer and a burglar " etc

Really? And you're proud of such acts? I think that clearly is the height of ecclesiastical insensitivity.

Such unguarded statements has the tendency of poking unhealed wounds in the hearts of some of your listeners , opening you up to temptations and easily making you a victim of extended hatred.

You're called to be a healer, not a killer.

your opinions and you are entitled to them. Next person jare

What I know is whenever pastors preach about past life what comes to my mind is so you have finished enjoying your life and have memorable experience and you don't want me to do my own and have my experience then repent.

Allow me to enjoy myself have experience then I can now repent.

EwuGambia:
Go and tell pastor Adeboye, shebi he said he used to be a playboy...with many galfriends
But then i think there is a need to make the sinners know that you once used to be like them, and you were saved (if you were really saved )

I guess he also went ahead to give graphic details of how he slept with those girls and all the dirty intricacies involved.

seyi360:


There should be a limit to what a preacher says about his past life especially while preaching.
When a preacher says
"back in the days, I slept around with my mother's mates"
"I used to be a serial fornicator and rapist"
"I was a murderer and a burglar " etc

Really? And you're proud of such acts? I think that clearly is the height of ecclesiastical insensitivity.

Such unguarded statements has the tendency of poking unhealed wounds in the hearts of some of your listeners , opening you up to temptations and easily making you a victim of extended hatred.

You're called to be a healer, not a killer.

Well...if the end point is to show their listeners that God can transform anybody, no matter how bad the person may have been, and bring them to repentance, then no problem. However, not all details need to be explicitly stated.

If, however, the preacher just wants to prove he's been a bad boy too, then it's not good; it adds no spiritual value to the listeners

The manner in which it is presented is what is important.
The key reason of doing that is to give hope (to the listener ) of the power of Jesus to save the worst of sinner.
Obviously if your pastor does this every time...then there's an issue.

Dangrace01:
What I know is whenever pastors preach about past life what comes to my mind is so you have finished enjoying your life and have memorable experience and you don't want me to do my own and have my experience then repent.

Allow me to enjoy myself have experience then I can now repent.

You would agree with me that in that same church there are people that have already enjoyed and are tired of such life. They just need someone with a story they can relate to and ut can certainly push them to change

COdeGenesis:


You big be olodo. Coconut head. U read thebible upside down. You just cut one verse without following the story. Paul was dwelling on the present, of course why lock him up when he has done nothing. This is a direct opposite of what the topic is, In Galatians 1 vs 13 - 14 Paul talks about his past. Even in organisations as a leader when you want to motivate unserious workers, you coulf site urself as an example and explain your past.You could tell them there is nothing profitable in what they are presently doing and if they want to be successful in their position there is neex for change. It is done everywhere not only in churches and it is done to motivate people.Even in your family, it will get to a point you would tell you children of your past and how what they are doing doesnt pay them

Who is this?

SavageMaster:


Well...if the end point is to show their listeners that God can transform anybody, no matter how bad the person may have been, and bring them to repentance, then no problem. However, not all details need to be explicitly stated.

If, however, the preacher just wants to prove he's been a bad boy too, then it's not good; it adds no spiritual value to the listeners

It adds ofcourse. They most times tell the deep side of it, so the rotten ones who have given up on life and concluded they can never live a good life can change. If someone who has done something worse than me can live a better life. Then it should be easy for me to stop my bad behaviour

COdeGenesis:


You would agree with me that in that same church there are people that have already enjoyed and are tired of such life. They just need someone with a story they can relate to and ut can certainly push them to change

I agree totally.

seyi360:


Who is this?

You better learn.

Galatians 1:12-16
New International Version
12 I did not receive it from any man,(A) nor was I taught it; rather, I received it by revelation(B) from Jesus Christ.(C)

13 For you have heard of my previous way of life in Judaism,(D) how intensely I persecuted the church of God(E) and tried to destroy it.(F) 14 I was advancing in Judaism beyond many of my own age among my people and was extremely zealous(G) for the traditions of my fathers.(H) 15 But when God, who set me apart from my mother’s womb(I) and called me(J) by his grace, was pleased 16 to reveal his Son in me so that I might preach him among the Gentiles,(K) my immediate response was not to consult any human being.(L)

Seyi, I think why some pastors use their part experiences as illustrations to help some members who still feel unworthy with a pricking conscience of their past not allowing them enjoy the full grace to feel more calm and accepted in the body of christ, so they dont easily revert back to the world thinking their past sin is so enormous that God cannot accept them.

Do you know some can leave the Church if these fears of rejection are not allayed? And the best way to do this I think is a man of God using himself as a case study just like Paul said that he became like them when preaching the word so he can fit in and be well accepted by those he preached to. Eve though likening Paul's case to this isn't really direct but its similar in a way.

Trying to be like them to win them or make them understand you were once like them so dont feel odd.

I think thats what kobojunkie was all about.

From my own view, some Church members or pple may think that becox they are so deep into sin that God can never forgive them of their atrocities.
Hearing the past testimonies of the Man of God,their hope is jacked alive, they make the decision of salvation & their life is turned around.
Its the context of narrating their past life.
@op, what of the Pastors that always narrate how they have encounter with God one on one or how God delivered them from accident of Major destruction.
Nothing actually wrong wit the act ,'' where there's no testimony, there's no liberty''.

There is therefore now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus who walk not after the flesh but after the spirit Romans 8 verse 1.

What does this Verse mean?
It means God doesn't condemn you at all. You have been forgiven, but you have to walk (live by) the Spirit (Holy Spirit guided life) not the flesh (Natural inclination to sin/do sinful things).

Seyi, I think why some pastors use their past experience as illustrations is to help some members who still feel unworthy with a pricking conscience of their past not allowing them enjoy the full grace to feel more calm and accepted in the body of christ. so they dont easily revert back to the world thinking their past sin is so enormous that God cannot accept them.

Do you know some can leave the Church if these fears of rejection are not allayed? And the best way to do this I think is a man of God using himself as a case study just like Paul said that he became like them when preaching the word so he can fit in and be well accepted by those he preached to. Even though likening Paul's case to this isn't directly same but its similar in a way.

Trying to be like them to win them or make them understand you were once like them so they dont feel odd.

I think thats what kobojunkie was on about. And please let's stop being harsh to one another when a question is thrown at us. Where is now the fruit of the spirit ( Patience) in us as Christians?

We all are still learning.

Shalom.

Happy Sunday to everyone.

seyi360:


There should be a limit to what a preacher says about his past life especially while preaching.
When a preacher says
"back in the days, I slept around with my mother's mates"
"I used to be a serial fornicator and rapist"
"I was a murderer and a burglar " etc

Really? And you're proud of such acts? I think that clearly is the height of ecclesiastical insensitivity.

Such unguarded statements has the tendency of poking unhealed wounds in the hearts of some of your listeners , opening you up to temptations and easily making you a victim of extended hatred.

You're called to be a healer, not a killer.

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