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Re: Can God Blame Me For Not Telling A Church Member What God Told Me As A Pastor? by twilliamx(m): 11:21am On Aug 16, 2020
Beosten:



I was very sure. My visions had always been 99% correct all the time. I was barely about 3 months in the ministry and you expect me to tell someone that her child should not leave Nigeria after procuring visa?

It show you fear man more than the God that sent you
Re: Can God Blame Me For Not Telling A Church Member What God Told Me As A Pastor? by Beosten(m): 11:24am On Aug 16, 2020
DOnlooker:
I am more concerned about how the child just got deported back to Nigeria with closed international airspace (at least officially). Did the foreign government smuggle him back into the country via cargo plane ? Most countries have even halted repatriations since the outbreak of covid-19.


His mother said he's back because he encountered troubles. I didn't ask what transpired and he's truly back to Nigeria.
Re: Can God Blame Me For Not Telling A Church Member What God Told Me As A Pastor? by kodix(m): 11:25am On Aug 16, 2020
See you!,God no tell you anything you're under guess work and not sure of your message, bcs if you're so sure you would have told them but you're afraid of not failing and losing your members,the una go stop deceiving people esp women na the day hunger go kill una,lie lie mtcheeew.

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Re: Can God Blame Me For Not Telling A Church Member What God Told Me As A Pastor? by madridsta007(m): 11:25am On Aug 16, 2020
Beosten:
Let me start from here: I have what it takes to be a pastor and I had numerous visions that confirmed my calling. But I have a disability, and I refused to go into pastoral ministry since 2005. I came into the full-time ministry a few months ago. I came into the ministry because it seemed God was the one punishing me for refusing to do the needful.

Then a church member came to me for blessing saying that her child already procured visa to travel out. That was before covid19 break. I prayed for the child. But God revealed to me in a vision at night that the child should not leave Nigeria, and that it will end in tears. I didn't tell them anything about the vision and the child left Nigeria.

The child has just been deported and a lot of money down the drain.

How should a pastor handle this kind of thing without offending those looking for counseling? I will pray for forgiveness, but can God hold me accountable for this error?

There was a time that I had a dream of an aircrash. It was very clear and I told someone close to me.
I didnt pray.

Two weeks later, there was a plane crash. Exact plane I saw, exact location, everything was exact.
I am still pained each time I remember it. However, I asked God for forgiveness and I know better if it happens again.

God will forgive when you repent and ask for forgiveness. However, if it happens again TELL the person and ignore the emotional consequences.

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Re: Can God Blame Me For Not Telling A Church Member What God Told Me As A Pastor? by ghettochild(m): 11:25am On Aug 16, 2020
Beosten:
Let me start from here: I have what it takes to be a pastor and I had numerous visions that confirmed my calling. But I have a disability, and I refused to go into pastoral ministry since 2005. I came into the full-time ministry a few months ago. I came into the ministry because it seemed God was the one punishing me for refusing to do the needful.

Then a church member came to me for blessing saying that her child already procured visa to travel out. That was before covid19 break. I prayed for the child. But God revealed to me in a vision at night that the child should not leave Nigeria, and that it will end in tears. I didn't tell them anything about the vision and the child left Nigeria.

The child has just been deported and a lot of money down the drain.

How should a pastor handle this kind of thing without offending those looking for counseling? I will pray for forgiveness, but can God hold me accountable for this error?
Even if u told someone that got a visa not to travel.... And they didn't.. They money still goes down d drain.. It was best the person traveled atleast n had an experience rather preventing that travel experience

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Re: Can God Blame Me For Not Telling A Church Member What God Told Me As A Pastor? by bewla(m): 11:27am On Aug 16, 2020
Beosten:



I was very sure. My visions had always been 99% correct all the time. I was barely about 3 months in the ministry and you expect me to tell someone that her child should not leave Nigeria after procuring visa?
yes but u will blame ur self for ever when he comes bk in casket
Re: Can God Blame Me For Not Telling A Church Member What God Told Me As A Pastor? by RTSC: 11:28am On Aug 16, 2020
A lot of pastors underestimate how easy it's for God to replace them.

God can go to the house of the strongest native doctor, convert him, and fill him with the Holy Spirit.

And he will use him to replace a General overseer of 50 years in the ministry, if he misbehaves.

It's that easy.

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Re: Can God Blame Me For Not Telling A Church Member What God Told Me As A Pastor? by JayIsforGod(m): 11:30am On Aug 16, 2020
Beosten:
Let me start from here: I have what it takes to be a pastor and I had numerous visions that confirmed my calling. But I have a disability, and I refused to go into pastoral ministry since 2005. I came into the full-time ministry a few months ago. I came into the ministry because it seemed God was the one punishing me for refusing to do the needful.

Then a church member came to me for blessing saying that her child already procured visa to travel out. That was before covid19 break. I prayed for the child. But God revealed to me in a vision at night that the child should not leave Nigeria, and that it will end in tears. I didn't tell them anything about the vision and the child left Nigeria.

The child has just been deported and a lot of money down the drain.

How should a pastor handle this kind of thing without offending those looking for counseling? I will pray for forgiveness, but can God hold me accountable for this error?
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Re: Can God Blame Me For Not Telling A Church Member What God Told Me As A Pastor? by Stephenomozzy(m): 11:31am On Aug 16, 2020
bomsilaga:

It's not as easy as you all think.
I once prayed for a sick woman in company of my aunty and I heard clearly she would die next day. That was the most difficult prayer said till date as I kept on babbling nonesense.
Now how do you tell a family in pain that a loved one was going to die no matter what?
Well it's not in all situations but you must apply wisdom.
Cheers

Yes, applying wisdom is different from not passing the message at all. Yes some events can be averted by PRAYER and FAITH.

but let the message be delivered in wisdom that it doesn't hit the receiver too hard.

Why is it easy to blare the good news of blessings but when it comes to not so pleasant news we want to use wisdom to please men and not look bad? .

That's scam.
Re: Can God Blame Me For Not Telling A Church Member What God Told Me As A Pastor? by JourneytoEL(f): 11:31am On Aug 16, 2020
Beosten:
Let me start from here: I have what it takes to be a pastor and I had numerous visions that confirmed my calling. But I have a disability, and I refused to go into pastoral ministry since 2005. I came into the full-time ministry a few months ago. I came into the ministry because it seemed God was the one punishing me for refusing to do the needful.

Then a church member came to me for blessing saying that her child already procured visa to travel out. That was before covid19 break. I prayed for the child. But God revealed to me in a vision at night that the child should not leave Nigeria, and that it will end in tears. I didn't tell them anything about the vision and the child left Nigeria.

The child has just been deported and a lot of money down the drain.

How should a pastor handle this kind of thing without offending those looking for counseling? I will pray for forgiveness, but can God hold me accountable for this error?
for you to have taken the stress of opening a thread, it means your conscience is disturbing you because you sinned. The bible says obedience is better than sacrifice and don't be scared of he that can kill the body but can't kill the soul, rather be scared of he that can kill both the body and the soul. Ask God for his mercy and next time if you are unsure you can tell your senior pastor before telling the person

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Re: Can God Blame Me For Not Telling A Church Member What God Told Me As A Pastor? by Investnow2017: 11:32am On Aug 16, 2020
Shut up God did not tell you anything. You are a liar, stopping listening to Satan and to your desperate and deceptive heart.

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Re: Can God Blame Me For Not Telling A Church Member What God Told Me As A Pastor? by supereagle(m): 11:33am On Aug 16, 2020
Beosten:



I was very sure. My visions had always been 99% correct all the time. I was barely about 3 months in the ministry and you expect me to tell someone that her child should not leave Nigeria after procuring visa?
Pray for wisdom in communication. You need wisdom to pass the message across.
1.Wisdom is the principal thing.
2. Wisdom is profitable to direct.
Re: Can God Blame Me For Not Telling A Church Member What God Told Me As A Pastor? by Parable007: 11:33am On Aug 16, 2020
Beosten:
Let me start from here: I have what it takes to be a pastor and I had numerous visions that confirmed my calling. But I have a disability, and I refused to go into pastoral ministry since 2005. I came into the full-time ministry a few months ago. I came into the ministry because it seemed God was the one punishing me for refusing to do the needful.

Then a church member came to me for blessing saying that her child already procured visa to travel out. That was before covid19 break. I prayed for the child. But God revealed to me in a vision at night that the child should not leave Nigeria, and that it will end in tears. I didn't tell them anything about the vision and the child left Nigeria.

The child has just been deported and a lot of money down the drain.

How should a pastor handle this kind of thing without offending those looking for counseling? I will pray for forgiveness, but can God hold me accountable for this error?
like for real? Has it gotten so bad that you as a pastor will come to the world social media to ask what is right or wrong? You are supposed to teach and bring the world to know the will and heart of God and now you are asking the world for the heart of God and you say you are a Pastor.. I am mad at you right now... Better go back to God and ask for forgiveness for this veeeery foolish act! Seeing visions and what have you doesn't guarantee your call.. this Is why the first place to run to for you is people's opinion!
Re: Can God Blame Me For Not Telling A Church Member What God Told Me As A Pastor? by Nobody: 11:33am On Aug 16, 2020
Nonsense and ingredients-Religion is a scam -Your called by the sky god indeed-What’s his location and phone number-Just tell us you have no job and want to make money out of the gullible lol!!! Scam there is no different between you ,hush puppy and our politicians.

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Re: Can God Blame Me For Not Telling A Church Member What God Told Me As A Pastor? by Otiv: 11:35am On Aug 16, 2020
You'rea pastor and you're bringing your case to nairaland for them to guide you? You must be joking !
Beosten:
Let me start from here: I have what it takes to be a pastor and I had numerous visions that confirmed my calling. But I have a disability, and I refused to go into pastoral ministry since 2005. I came into the full-time ministry a few months ago. I came into the ministry because it seemed God was the one punishing me for refusing to do the needful.

Then a church member came to me for blessing saying that her child already procured visa to travel out. That was before covid19 break. I prayed for the child. But God revealed to me in a vision at night that the child should not leave Nigeria, and that it will end in tears. I didn't tell them anything about the vision and the child left Nigeria.

The child has just been deported and a lot of money down the drain.

How should a pastor handle this kind of thing without offending those looking for counseling? I will pray for forgiveness, but can God hold me accountable for this error?
Re: Can God Blame Me For Not Telling A Church Member What God Told Me As A Pastor? by Goalnaldo(m): 11:45am On Aug 16, 2020
motta:
You were simply not sure of the vision you felt it was just your imagination , and you concluded that traveling was a better idea as in a greener pasture , sir you will be held accountable.
if you felt he was not sure of the vision and gave advice base on his human judgement, then why are you contradicting yourself by saying God will hold him accountable? undecided
Re: Can God Blame Me For Not Telling A Church Member What God Told Me As A Pastor? by wirinet(m): 11:45am On Aug 16, 2020
Beosten:
Let me start from here: I have what it takes to be a pastor and I had numerous visions that confirmed my calling. But I have a disability, and I refused to go into pastoral ministry since 2005. I came into the full-time ministry a few months ago. I came into the ministry because it seemed God was the one punishing me for refusing to do the needful.

Then a church member came to me for blessing saying that her child already procured visa to travel out. That was before covid19 break. I prayed for the child. But God revealed to me in a vision at night that the child should not leave Nigeria, and that it will end in tears. I didn't tell them anything about the vision and the child left Nigeria.

The child has just been deported and a lot of money down the drain.

How should a pastor handle this kind of thing without offending those looking for counseling? I will pray for forgiveness, but can God hold me accountable for this error?

I left Christianity because of Christians like you and your church member. If really you get visions, then I am sorry to say God is wasting the visions on you. What's the purpose of giving your visions if you cannot pass such visions accurately to avoid calamity. So, if the person had died because of the message you failed to deliver, who will be blamed? Even in the bible prophets were burdened with passing unpalatable messages to very powerful kings, and here you are of being afraid of losing a church member.

Even without visions, did you ask your member what he wants to do abroad that he spent a fortune to procure a visa? Is the streets of abroad paved with money that he will just be picking off the streets? Could be not have put the money to better use here, either by starting a business or learning a skill. Most likely, the member would engage in criminal activities or constitute a nuisance in the foreign country.

A good man of God would advice his followers on ways of making legitimate earning and not engage in "get rich quick" schemes.

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Re: Can God Blame Me For Not Telling A Church Member What God Told Me As A Pastor? by MightySparrow: 11:47am On Aug 16, 2020
Beosten:
Let me start from here: I have what it takes to be a pastor and I had numerous visions that confirmed my calling. But I have a disability, and I refused to go into pastoral ministry since 2005. I came into the full-time ministry a few months ago. I came into the ministry because it seemed God was the one punishing me for refusing to do the needful.

Then a church member came to me for blessing saying that her child already procured visa to travel out. That was before covid19 break. I prayed for the child. But God revealed to me in a vision at night that the child should not leave Nigeria, and that it will end in tears. I didn't tell them anything about the vision and the child left Nigeria.

The child has just been deported and a lot of money down the drain.

How should a pastor handle this kind of thing without offending those looking for counseling? I will pray for forgiveness, but can God hold me accountable for this error?
Re: Can God Blame Me For Not Telling A Church Member What God Told Me As A Pastor? by RTSC: 11:49am On Aug 16, 2020
The late Evangelist Reinhard Bonnke told us a similar story that happened to him at the beginning of his ministry.

God gave him a big vision of his ministry when he was still a struggling and unknown missionary in Africa.
He doubted it.

God gave him an ultimatum- Make a move or be replaced.

It's that simple.
Re: Can God Blame Me For Not Telling A Church Member What God Told Me As A Pastor? by damosade(m): 11:49am On Aug 16, 2020
You can as well ask God if it is a sin now..
Re: Can God Blame Me For Not Telling A Church Member What God Told Me As A Pastor? by Goalnaldo(m): 11:49am On Aug 16, 2020
Beosten:



I was very sure. My visions had always been 99% correct all the time. I was barely about 3 months in the ministry and you expect me to tell someone that her child should not leave Nigeria after procuring visa?
oga it doesn't matter whether you started today, deliver the message God sent you to deliver. I really hope God forgives you. It's this kind of attitude that makes God to withdraw his grace from sons of men.
Re: Can God Blame Me For Not Telling A Church Member What God Told Me As A Pastor? by lele007: 11:52am On Aug 16, 2020
Beosten:
Let me start from here: I have what it takes to be a pastor and I had numerous visions that confirmed my calling. But I have a disability, and I refused to go into pastoral ministry since 2005. I came into the full-time ministry a few months ago. I came into the ministry because it seemed God was the one punishing me for refusing to do the needful.

Then a church member came to me for blessing saying that her child already procured visa to travel out. That was before covid19 break. I prayed for the child. But God revealed to me in a vision at night that the child should not leave Nigeria, and that it will end in tears. I didn't tell them anything about the vision and the child left Nigeria.

The child has just been deported and a lot of money down the drain.

How should a pastor handle this kind of thing without offending those looking for counseling? I will pray for forgiveness, but can God hold me accountable for this error?

Weh don sah
Re: Can God Blame Me For Not Telling A Church Member What God Told Me As A Pastor? by cricifixo: 11:52am On Aug 16, 2020
Remove the word "can" from your question & replace it with the word "will" because from my understanding of the bible, God can do just anything

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Re: Can God Blame Me For Not Telling A Church Member What God Told Me As A Pastor? by MightySparrow: 11:53am On Aug 16, 2020
kodix:
See you!,God no tell you anything you're under guess work and not sure of your message, bcs if you're so sure you would have told them but you're afraid of not failing and losing your members,the una go stop deceiving people esp women na the day hunger go kill una,lie lie mtcheeew.
You are learning, next time seek advice of a trusted senior pastor to guide you. atimes it is difficult to deliver a message or a message could be for your information only.
Re: Can God Blame Me For Not Telling A Church Member What God Told Me As A Pastor? by Investnow2017: 11:53am On Aug 16, 2020
You are all fraudulent impostors, God can never bypass his word and tell you something. His word is complete and sealed by the utterances of His Son Jesus Christ and the Apostles, Rev 22:18,19. And God has revealed in his word all that will occur even one thousand years from now.
You are all simply Satan's agents claiming God told you one thing or the other. Better repent and study God's word to know the Truth and align yourself with the truth of God's word. Only then will you escape the destruction that is coming from the true God. Stopping listening to Satan.
Re: Can God Blame Me For Not Telling A Church Member What God Told Me As A Pastor? by goshen26: 11:55am On Aug 16, 2020
Beosten:
Let me start from here: I have what it takes to be a pastor and I had numerous visions that confirmed my calling. But I have a disability, and I refused to go into pastoral ministry since 2005. I came into the full-time ministry a few months ago. I came into the ministry because it seemed God was the one punishing me for refusing to do the needful.

Then a church member came to me for blessing saying that her child already procured visa to travel out. That was before covid19 break. I prayed for the child. But God revealed to me in a vision at night that the child should not leave Nigeria, and that it will end in tears. I didn't tell them anything about the vision and the child left Nigeria.

The child has just been deported and a lot of money down the drain.

How should a pastor handle this kind of thing without offending those looking for counseling? I will pray for forgiveness, but can God hold me accountable for this error?


Sir, if the vision is from God and u refuse to deliver He will give you cane oooo
Re: Can God Blame Me For Not Telling A Church Member What God Told Me As A Pastor? by Binhamid(m): 11:59am On Aug 16, 2020
Super story things. Set awon Wale Adenuga
Re: Can God Blame Me For Not Telling A Church Member What God Told Me As A Pastor? by Investnow2017: 11:59am On Aug 16, 2020
You claim God told you something and you are coming to Nairaland to ask the consequences of not obeying God. And you claim you are a man of God and some gullibles believe you. You people keep making mockery of God's word. Pitiable embarassed
Tell me how you are different native doctors. All of you are sorcerers, who engage in spiritism in an attempt to deceive people, Rev 21:8.
Re: Can God Blame Me For Not Telling A Church Member What God Told Me As A Pastor? by Wigetsolar: 12:01pm On Aug 16, 2020
Beosten:
Let me start from here: I have what it takes to be a pastor and I had numerous visions that confirmed my calling. But I have a disability, and I refused to go into pastoral ministry since 2005. I came into the full-time ministry a few months ago. I came into the ministry because it seemed God was the one punishing me for refusing to do the needful.

Then a church member came to me for blessing saying that her child already procured visa to travel out. That was before covid19 break. I prayed for the child. But God revealed to me in a vision at night that the child should not leave Nigeria, and that it will end in tears. I didn't tell them anything about the vision and the child left Nigeria.

The child has just been deported and a lot of money down the drain.

How should a pastor handle this kind of thing without offending those looking for counseling? I will pray for forgiveness, but can God hold me accountable for this error?

If you can answer these two questions, then you have genuine calling:

1. What are the Words of your calling?
2. What is the covenant Name you interact with God?
Re: Can God Blame Me For Not Telling A Church Member What God Told Me As A Pastor? by Nobody: 12:01pm On Aug 16, 2020
Beosten:
Let me start from here: I have what it takes to be a pastor and I had numerous visions that confirmed my calling. But I have a disability, and I refused to go into pastoral ministry since 2005. I came into the full-time ministry a few months ago. I came into the ministry because it seemed God was the one punishing me for refusing to do the needful.

Then a church member came to me for blessing saying that her child already procured visa to travel out. That was before covid19 break. I prayed for the child. But God revealed to me in a vision at night that the child should not leave Nigeria, and that it will end in tears. I didn't tell them anything about the vision and the child left Nigeria.

The child has just been deported and a lot of money down the drain.

How should a pastor handle this kind of thing without offending those looking for counseling? I will pray for forgiveness, but can God hold me accountable for this error?
U Should Tell Dem.
Re: Can God Blame Me For Not Telling A Church Member What God Told Me As A Pastor? by ModestGal(f): 12:03pm On Aug 16, 2020
RTSC:
A lot of pastors underestimate how easy it's for God to replace them.

God can go to the house of the strongest native doctor, convert him, and fill him with the Holy Spirit.

And he will use him to replace a General overseer of 50 years in the ministry, if he misbehaves.

It's that easy.
Ehn ehn, so God is a game player? Because a General overseer of 50years misbehave for one day, he will angrily go to the house of native doctor that has been using human parts to do rituals and call him?
You people must be outta your minds, well, black people with black brain, its no surprise.

How many useless people did God called in the Bible? This is why retired Olosho will say God called her, as well as retired ritualist, because they understand dumb people like you will believe them
Re: Can God Blame Me For Not Telling A Church Member What God Told Me As A Pastor? by desgiezd(m): 12:04pm On Aug 16, 2020
Beosten:



I was very sure. My visions had always been 99% correct all the time. I was barely about 3 months in the ministry and you expect me to tell someone that her child should not leave Nigeria after procuring visa?


The issue of "you expect me to tell someone" should not be entertained at all. The bottom line is that you have refused to deliver a message sent by God.

You would have been fully justified if you had delivered the message and they refused to believe you and the boy had gone contrary to what you told them and he gets deported. That would have even strengthened their belief in your counseling.

Sir, it's not easy to be a pastor because there are times God will send messages that you will be very, very uncomfortable to deliver but you must still deliver them.

A Yoruba proverb says "it is one who sends us a message we should fear not the one to whom the message will be delivered"

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