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@cap28
in lincoln's day, there was no federal reserve. The federal reserve was established in 1913 under democratic president Woodrow Wilson, infact Lincoln established a single currency for the whole country.

gree-die:
ndi igbo ibem daru kwa nu, Unu achoro igwa m na unu aghaghi asunwu asusu anyi ma oburu na bekee adataghi ya? Legodu ka unu ufodu si asu engreigbo. Obukwa ihe ihere o. ndi ibe anyi ndi ahusa,yoruba wdg da asunwu asusu ha ma otu bekee aghaghi aba ya. Biko ka anyi gisie ike ma hu asusu anyi na anya,
Hapi xmas in advance

gree-die

ndewo, gi abachaaa mba nile ibara ma were Xmas mechie okwu , hapi Xmas o wu asusu Igbo?

@topic,

Talking about the Bamster's legendary negotiating abilities, does anyone remember the failed Chicago bid for the Olympics?  The Bamster along with his wife, Michelin carried the dignity of the office of the President of the United States half way around the world only to be humiliated by a resounding rejection of his plea.  He must think all he needs to get his way was just to show up and everybody will start genuflecting and acquiescing to his every demand.  But of course with no prior experience to teach the guy otherwise, the many adoring fans he has must have given him a false illusion of the real world.

Russia just won the bid to host the World Cup.  Putin pulled strings from afar and only travelled after he knew Russia's bid was successful.  He joined in the celebration of the win.  I hope our Executive-Intern President will learn some lessons from that.  I wouldn't hold my breadth though, he appears way too narcissistic to think he can learn from other people.

when I talk of foreign negotiation, I meant real foreign policy like defence treaties etc, not sports, lol. Ok I know you are bored again, go back to your room and look at that naked Sarah palin photo on your wall and enjoy your fantasies. Aight!

I actually opened this thread for the sake of obama's weak negotiating ability, now I know some people have been banging their heads on their car window since Obama became president, and will bang it for two more years, if they don't have a heart attack, but let's try and keep to topic and not discuss tax cuts for the rich which created millions of imaginary jobs as well as creating the massive economic crises from mr Bush.

Jesoul
like I said, this thread is about obama's negotiating ability. He doesn't need a phd to know how to negotiate.

Agam eji akpa amu ikomi agwo ogwu ego. Mgbe de ego batara, m jiri ya zuoro Ify motor--->infinity.
One day, ekuke ga ata somebody.

Ikomi I wu uchu, hapuru m Ify m o

agaba mkpum. Bomb di scarce na gaza strip o

Jesoul,
this thread is about negotiating ability. Never mind someone came here and started trying to change it and looking for blames. You and I can never agree on what is right or wrong policy. The healthcare bill you say American people don't like, I agree, but I think they don't like it bc it is not enough. You may think the bill is too much. So we can always disagree on policy. There clueless voters in every county and party, when Obama campaigned that tax cut is for middle class he wasn't on drugs. This thread is not about which tax policy is better but about Obama being weak in negotiations. When liberals see tax cuts for the rich, and unemployment benefits for the poor stopped, do you think there'll be turnout of liberals like 2008? NO! Democrats are still in charge in DC.

Now I hear GOP has made a statement to oppose everything the democrats try to do on the lameduck except tax cut. Just after the meeting with Obama, the negotiator. Lol.

Jesoul,

Don't even get me started on clueless palin supporters. My biggest hero on television is bill maher, and I agree with him when he said the average American voter is clueless. Majority of palin supporters font even know that palin supported the bail out. There are millions of clueless palin fans. That's why palin can talk rubbish and her base stands with her and if the media notices, it is called media attack. Compare that to obamas supporters who shout at him when he missteps. Before the midterm Obama was heckled in new York and in California By his supporters. He thinks he is being the nice guy. NO. You are seen as weak. That's why as POTUS he can call a meeting of republicans and they snub him, claiming to be busy. That's why republicans can stand on a nuclear treaty with Russia and refuse to budge. Weak. That's why he will be a one term president.

Jesoul

A leader should be a good negotiator. Negotiation is about give and take. I give this, you give that. That's why the liberals were angry with the healthcare bill. He should have started with single payer British style, then when push comes to shove, he'll end up with public option for some republican votes or blue dog democrat votes, but he gave up that and went straight to public option, and ended up with no public option and no republican vote. Now he wants to negotiate with republicans( good luck with that) and even before the meeting, with people who snubbed his invitation two weeks ago, he has given up a negotiation point. What nonsense? Is this how he negotiates internationally with thickheads like Russia?

As for his base, he made promises, he asked we taKe him at his word, the least we can do is expect him to at least make an attempt to fulfill his promises, even if he doesn't succeed. These are what he campaigned on. Just like the tea party is out for tax cut and repealing healthcare which they campaigned on. How can his base trust him again. I noticed dear pelosi did not make any statement after the meeting. I hope I read her well. Somebody has got to stop Obama from becoming a republican.

Eji aka nri kuo nwata ihe; eji aka ekpa guguo ya

Yes, I'm back, and with a bang
olee ihe gi na ikomi mega kemgbe? Gwa ikomi na m si na aga m eji mkpuru amu ya agwo ogwu ego very soon. Si ya na m si ya kpacharakwa Anya ya na dis ember months. Iwe di m n'obi. Owerela amu ogologo ya ahu o na eji aga brothel ji . . . . .anyway, ka m mechie pnu for now. Ikomi will hear from me soon.

Tayo-D:

Tayo-D link=topic=559737.msg7248819#msg7248819 date=1291165441:
@topic,

Obama weak? Absolutely. He is in over his head and is no more sure of what to do than a deer in headlights. Here is someone who has never managed anything in his life and yet finds himself as President of perhaps, the biggest empire the world has ever known. I don't blame him though, I blame the many ignoramuses that voted him President. I blame the Republican Party that presented a very weak candidate to run against him. I blame his many worshippers, like Pres-elect who make him feel that he is the next best thing to Christ. I blame the media that refused to do their job of vetting him properly. I blame the establishment that gave us style over substance.

On the other hand, I do not blame Pres-elect for the way he feels. Afterall, Obama was a clean canvass and everyone projected on him an image they hope for in a President. This explains Pres-elect's dissapointment. Tell us Pres, what do


know of Obama's record and antecedents that makes you feel he will do this and much more for you? What did he do or
achieve in office prior to being the POTUS that gave you confidnece that he will pull through for you?


How are you different from those who think that Obama will buy them new houses and renovate their kitchens from the stash he keeps in the WH? Why should your outcome be different from those who through the last 3 generations have been waiting on the govt to make them rich even though they do not work? Everything isn't all about politics. I am perplexed and alarmed at the destination this country is heading. The biggest problem we have is not the rich, it is the government. The rich did not mortgage our future to China, this was the exclusive preserve of those in govt. Please desist from this class envy and get real. Last I checked, the $25,000 that has being witheld so far from my income this year was not done by a rich man, but by those in Washington. You have not yet identified your real problem.

foolish post. Next time you are bored just go and kiss Sarah palin's photo.

NEXT PLS

The fact that Obama is being defended by jesoul and montelik sums it all. Obama is happily biting the hand that fed him. I'm too upset to post more.

Otele, I can't stand Cameron, too upset to even comment on British threads.

Even before the republicans come to the white house for the "bipartisan" talks on important issues, Obama has sacrificed federal workers, most of whom vote drmocrat. Negotiation has not started and he has sacrificed part of his base.

The republicans want to cut benefit for the poor while maintaining tax cut for the rich. Obama can't even take that case to the public. I envy republican voters, they must be relaxed knowing that thier representatives won't let them down. Democrats just go to DC and negotiate away the expectations of their base. Thak God pelosi remained behind to check obamas naivety. Imagine if she left, democrats will have Obama, Reid and Hoyer as their leaders in DC. Lol.

Chei, credit crunch egbuolanu al Qaeda. Imagine na dede osama enweghi Ike Inye m common roadside bomb ka m ji gbapu ikomi uburu ya. Even IED di scarce. Economy agwula ebe ahu.

Chei, ndia anarala m Ify o.
Ala owerre nakwa e-checki- la o

agaghi m ekwe. Ka m gbaruo gaza na west bank. Ayi ga ahu ishi ya

I'm disgusted by this issue. Americans have no problem sending 19
yr olds to Iraq and Afghanistan to fight and die for "security". And yet, they can't stand a little inconvinience at airports for security purposes. George Bush said he will protect America "at all costs". What does at all cost mean? Other peoples children sent to war? More funding for pentagon? How about a little discomfort for a few minutes. I'm sure they'll shut up if they see a London bearded Arab in the line boarding thier plane. They should be happy they have an agency that wants to work. They should try to visit Nigeria and see how security agents work.

They disgust me. "at all cost"

Who says the republicans are interested in cutting the deficit? Their only interest is tax cut for the rich and booting out Obama. No republican president has cut deficit since last century.

Actually the tea party will remove earmarks, which won't touch the deficit AT ALL. If they are serious, let them cut defence budget. By the way, did you hear that many of them are running away from appropriation committee. They all campaigned for spending cuts but nobody wants to be the face of the cuts

Jesoul has never invited me to dinner

Jesoul take am easy na. Wetin I do you.
Anyway, at least you admitted conservatives were uneasy with a catholic president in 1960. They were afraid of 4 million free blacks in 1860, Afraid of blacks having the right Yo bear arms, join military, etc. Jesoul you can't deny these things and change is not always negative. If I had my way, there'll be free healthcare in ALL nations.

Stop feeling guilty. I'm not saying conservatives are evil(some people feel that way) but they just resist change. Liberals are ahead almost always. In 1960, conservatives were concerned about catholic president( which you acknowledged) in 2010 they are not. So with time they turn around. Then liberals will fond some new change-

Not that liberals are always right, abortion, atheism etc but they are almost always on the right side.

by the way jesus was a socialist hippie

Jesus didn't ask for pre-existing condition before healing the sick. He didn't check the deficit before feeding the poor. He didn't even check for ID before converting water into wine. By his stripes, he paid for everyones health. Coverage for everyone

but hey, why is it that conservatives remember deficit only when there is an attempt to help the needy? When wall street is being bailed, or when spending on defence or nukes nobody remembers deficit. Lol

anyway, socialism all the way

@montelik and jesoul lol. Conservatives ain't that bad. They lower taxes hate abortion and pretend to love God. At least some of them pretend. The term liberal and conservative is used in terms of US politics so I can't use it to describe Moses et al.
Congressman-elect from Maryland who campaigned against healthcare bill came to washington and is upset that his govt "socialized" healthcare will start after 28 days I thought he hates govt healthcare. He convinced his constituents to hate govt healthcare then he comes here and is grabbing his own, lol.

Good news is that nobody contested my statements bc facts are facts. Conservatives never believed in women rights back in the 1950s. These people believe a woman should be in the kitchen. They never wanted blacks to have the right to vote. In those days, conservatives and liberals belonged to both parties. Today, there almost no liberals on republican party while democrat party is dominated by liberals but there are still conservatives in the democrat party. Today they don't want full rights for LGBT community. Well, na look I de look Uk and US.

@ tayo d
bros been a while. How u dey? Still drinking in celebration of the shellacking of democrats? Well, I'm celebrating the annihilation of those bomboclaats called blue dogs. The democratic caucus looks more like what I like and aunt Nancy is staying behind to put things in check.

Conservatives in continental congress vehemently opposed war with king George.
Conservatives opposed extending voting rights to all white men.
Conservatives opposed freeing the slaves.
Conservatives opposed giving women voting rights
conservatives opposed civil rights
conservatives love status quo.

Conservative creed" I'm fine, screw you."

Jesoul

don't confuse palin haters for liberals.
Liberals are thinkers, not haters. Liberals get things done, conservatives love status quo.
Liberals started the tea party rebellion in Boston in 1775. Conservatives wanted to remain under king georgeIII

liberals extended voting rights to all white men in the 1820s, conservatives opposed it.
Liberals fought the banks and a liberal president Andrew Jackson was the first and only president to hand over without any debt. The banks fought him, conservatives opposed him, called him jackass( which became the donkey symbol of the democratic party)

Liberals ended slavery ( no matter the cost, didn't think of deficit) conservatives opposed it

liberals gave women the vote in 1919, conservatives opposed it

liberals gave civil rights to blacks and women, conservatives opposed it.

Today, liberals want healthcare for all, conservatives oppose it.
Liberals want full rights for gays, conservatives oppose it.

We shall see by 2045 who won.
Get to know a liberal. It's liberating.

Ignorance is bliss only for a man whose wife sleeps around. If Negro ntns watches all the shows jesoul recommends for him, will he have time to do something else more useful.

Liberals furious! Bc of DWTS? Jesoul you don't know liberals. Liberals believe DWTS is where palin belongs, not white house
we were happy to watch Tom delay at DWTS. Now we watch palin doing reality tv. Great. That's where she belongs, her daughter does DWTS, great. That's where they belong. And as u can see, they are doing well bc it's where they belong.

Every population gets the govt it deserves.

Bia, o wu Ify m ka onye obula na ekwe onu ka ahia ekeonunwa?

lekwa, ozu ga agha agha n'okwu a. Agaje m Afghanistan ugbua ibute WMD maka agaghi m anu ndu onye ozo anara m akwa nwa m ji jide obi m aka na bad economy a. Anyi Nile ga anwukota ebe a now. Ka m ga hu Dee osama

ihukwa aruruala

omo~fat:
The british people did not vote for this contraption o. They voted primarily against Brown and his version of Labour.

a vote against labor=a vote for conservatives. did you guys think the libdems will control the govt? or did you think they'll control the conservatives?

ikomi

a ga m ata gi aru n'akpa amu o

Be careful what you want. Last time I checked, the people who voted for this govt weren't rich people. The British people voted for this and now we must deal with it. The Americans have also voted for the republicans, expect similar unrest due to cuts in govt spending across the Atlantic soon.

Oh, dear pelosi! . My dear pelosi

the most efficient speaker in US history enemies of progress have stood in ur way. No stress. Thier victory will be short lived.

Presido
odika igbadara Kai-Kai nke Kara aka.

Ikomi
odika I dabara n'ime osimiri king khana. Olee otu m shi jiri gi ugwo ji?

Thank God I didn't read the nonsense. A chronically disgruntled Hillary supporter writes an article addressed to the fat Buffon, then a pathological Obama hater posts it in nairaland. Then you expect a hot headed liberal to read it

thanx omofat, for confirming the diagnosis of schizophrenia.