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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Chelsea Vs Everton (2 - 0) On 27th August 2017 by Princefrankie1(m): 2:15pm On Aug 27, 2017
Where art thou all ye Naysayers??

The proponents of THE EPL IS SO COMPETITIVE, ONLY THE STRONG SURVIVES.... MORATA WILL BE A FLOP IN CHELSEA, HE CANT SCORE HERE. THIS IS NOT LALIGA.... bla bla bla

How market

As if they play stone and not football in Epl.

One goal; one
assist.

Come on MORATA, come on CHELSEA!!!

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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: UEFA Champions League Draw On 24th August 2017 by Princefrankie1(m): 1:55pm On Aug 25, 2017
cameeeeel:
first time i met a Barcelona fans with total knowledge of football history.. i always admire those who not only know much about their team but also know more about others team. i wasn't surprised by your references to Madrid of 1950, Van Gaal of 1995 and Sachhi of 1988...however, am seeing dis Zidane of Madrid to supercede Guardiola of Barcelona in next two years if not in style of play but numbers of trophies unless Barcelona act in soonest. Barcelona's problem had given a sign when Xavi (midfielder Maestro) left the club but magical Messi, Skillful Neymar nd rugged Suarez would not let the problem surfaced. if there is no total restructuring in Barca's board in soonest, i see Madrid dominating Spanish nd European Football. this is the time when Messi should be given rest at times but the Board had forgotten LA Masia Academy where Messi's loyalist heir would have been easily recruited.. because to me, Neymar is not loyal to Barcelona though he has his own ambition which i respect..am Real Madrid fans... but i respect Xavi so much. the dude was made from d middle of the sand. he is a complete midfielder.

You are very much on point brother. Barcelona have forgotten LaMasia. Otherwise, they wouldn't have signed players like Arda Turan, Lopez, Paulinho, nor even Dembele.

As for the present Real Madrid team under the tutelage of a great tactician in Zenidane Zidane, I see them doing great things and winning greater number of trophies if Zidane stays longer than Pep stayed in Barca.

The players are at their peak. Casemiro, Kroos, Isco, Carvajal, Modric, Ramos, Benzema, Varane, plus the ever reliable young talents in Asensio and Varquez..
So, as long as Zenidane stays in the dugout, they will surely dominate europe, unless like you said, Barcelona retraces their steps and look inward again for great players.

But, when I asserted that Pep's team is the greatest football team ever, I meant the playing style, and not basically the number of trophies they won.

Because, the Real Madrid team of 1959 won the European cup (Champions League) for 5 consecutive times under coach, Miguel Munoz, yet people rate Pep's Barcelona above them. Just because of the way they won, not how much they won.

So, brother, this present Madrid team is great, but do they blow off teams with intricate passing, triangular positioning, immediate ball retention and some other qualities the 2008-12 Barcelona team had?

I don't think so!

I have never watched football that good.

PS, I am not a Barcelona fan like most people think. I followed Barcelona then due to their unique style of play. I am a great fan of good football. Tactical football.

Enjoy the rest of your day!
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: UEFA Champions League Draw On 24th August 2017 by Princefrankie1(m): 11:28pm On Aug 24, 2017
cameeeeel:
i agree with you to the extent that Pep Guardiola established nd made his own team. however, thinking that Guardiola was d one that introduced tiki taka style of football was wrong. Tiki taka was mainly nd genuinely introduced by Barca legend Johan Cruyff doing his era as coach to Barcelona. he used the likes of Guardiola, Ronald Koeman, Michael Laudrup, Stokoihvic and a likes to introduce what is known today as Tiki Taka. he was d first coach to win Uefa Champions League for Barcelona in 1992.

As a student of the likes of Van Gaal, Johan Cruyff and Marcelo Bielsa, Pep Guardiola was fortunate enough to learn and study the ideas of great football visionaries.

His mentor Johan Cruyff, thought him so much about tactics. Cruyff was the brain behind possession based football.

Countless times, Pep doesn't forget to acknowledge Johan Cruyff as the man who made him who he is today.

Pep insisted his remarkable success in the Barcelona dugout was not comparable to the achievements of Cruyff's Dream Team.

"They were pioneers and we cannot compete with that no matter how many trophies we win," he said in 2011.
''We will never equal the period of the Dream Team as they were the first to break up the long period without success.

Cruyff built the ''Dream Team." A team that would keep the ball and dominate the game. Pep Guardiola was the midfield anchor man in that team. And they dominated teams playing wonderful football.

But they were not as good as Guardiola's Barcelona. Neither did they play the same way. They kept possession, but in a different way.

There are different ways teams keep possession. Some keep possession with little or no penetration. Like Liverpool and Arsenal. But Barcelona kept possession as a form of defence and attack.

As a tactic for defence: Depriving the opponent of the ball makes it difficult for them to create chances and score.

As a tactic for attack: Keeping the ball for long periods of time weakens and frustrates the opponent, thereby taking them out of position on the field of play.

No team has ever and will ever play the kind of football Barcelona played under Pep.

Not even the great Cruyff's dream team of 1988 which featured great players like Romario, Michael Laudrup, Ronald Koeman, Pep Guardiola...

Not even Louis Van Gaal's 1995 Ajax team with players such as Van der Sar, Frank Rijkaard, Frank de Boer, Clarence Seedorf, Edgar Davids and our very own Finidi George and Nwankwo Kanu.

Not even the Real Madrid team of the late 50's who dominated world football with players like Alfredo Di Stéfano and Ferenc Puskas...

Not even the great Arrigo Sacchi's Ac Milan team of 1988 which included the likes of Paolo Maldini, Marco Van Basten, Ruud Gullit, Frank Rijkaard, and Franco Baresi...

All these teams had great players, played great football and won lots of trophies, but Pep's Barcelona won it all in style.

As Guardiola humbly and rightly said, Johan Cruyff was the pioneer, he was the initiator, the teacher, but Guardiola as a clever student, learnt his masters trade and bettered it.

I admire your knowledge of history in football, and that's why I made out time to reply you.

As for the people who say Pep inherited a good team at Barcelona and that's why he won, I don't bother replying them, because they know nothing about HISTORY.

Have a wonderful night rest!

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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: UEFA Champions League Draw On 24th August 2017 by Princefrankie1(m): 8:12pm On Aug 24, 2017
Sanchez01:

For how long did Puyol play for Guardiola with 'his old age'?

Could you share the names of Guardiola signings while I list Rijkaard's?

When Rijkaard left, did Ronaldinho not become a part of the team that won the League?

Perhaps it never occurred to you that Guardiola had some personal issues with the players he sent out of the club. The persecution has not stopped with Toure that he chased out. He had tons of personal issues with Deco which saw the latter move to England.

Van Bommel won four trophies with Guardiola before leaving and Giuly won three. I could go with the rest but it doesn't really make sense since you lifted your opinion from God-knows-where.

Besides, why has the 'genius' not replicated his feat since he left Spain? Care to share?

Lol. Which Ronaldinho? Van Bommel did what in Peps team? I wonder the Pep Guardiola's Barcelona team that Ronaldinho and Van Bommel played for.


Forget it bro. As for Guardiola's success in Barcelona, he was the architect. Barcelona was already on a path to doom when he came and revamped the squad.


Remember Rijkaard went two seasons trophyless before Guardiola came? And immediately they started winning again with a new team. Isn't that ingenious?


As for Bayern, he left as the best manager in Bundesliga history. Fact!


In Guardiola’s first season at the club, Bayern went undefeated in their first 28 matches and won 19 straight at one point.


Only once did they concede more than one goal in that span and they had a goal difference of 66. By the time they finally lost, on April 5, they had already clinched the league, having become the first team in history to win the Bundesliga in March.


Same trend continued in the 2nd and 3rd seasons. Guardiola broke all the records in the Bundesliga. Winning 8 trophies and got to the semi finals of the Champions League on 3 consecutive occasions. He was only stopped by better Spanish teams at that moment. Barcelona, Real Madrid and Atletico Madrid.


If you say he was a failure because he failed to win the Champions League with Bayern, then no coach on earth should be rated. Because none have won the Champions League in every club they have managed. It's impossible.


To win the Champions League, sometimes you need a bit of luck to avoid some teams at some stages. If you meet better teams, with much more quality players, you will surely bow out irrespective of the coach's tactical nous.


He is currently in his second season in Manchester City, he has overhauled an aged squad once again just like he did at Barcelona, and success is SURE.

You don't dare call Guardiola average, except you are a novice in football.

Goodnight.

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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: UEFA Champions League Draw On 24th August 2017 by Princefrankie1(m): 7:37pm On Aug 24, 2017
Sanchez01:

Yes! I have always mentioned that Guardiola is nothing but an average coach who was fortunate enough to have coached one of the greatest teams ever.

Frank Rijkaard laid the blueprint for Guardiola's success. The team already had Giuly, Eto'o, Abidal, Puyol, a benched Xavi and Iniesta when the likes of Deco and Yaya You're held sway. The team had Gianluca Zambrotta, Lilian Thuram, Milito, Ronaldinho and many others.

The 2007-08 remains the entrance to the emergence of Barcelona's greatness in modern day football and it was neither orchestrated nor crafted by Guardiola.

Is it surprising that the same Guardiola has not had any European success after leaving Barcelona? As a matter of fact, Heynckes' Bayern team boasted a formidable style of play than Guardiola's tiki taka's.

Guardiola remains an average coach with tons of luck on his side.

Lol. Naysayers again. Guardiola average? Lol. There is nothing I will not read on this forum o.

Rijkaard 2007 first 11 consisted of:

VALDES

MARQUEZ >> PUYOL >> OLEGUER >> VAN BRONCKHORST

EDMILSON >> DECO >> VAN BOMMEL

GUILY >> ETO'O >> RONALDINHO.


Rijkaard ended the 2007 season trophyless. Leaving Barcelona with too many old guards and an underperforming team.


Meanwhile, Pep Guardiola in 2006, won promotion for Barca B in his debut season as their coach playing wonderful, scintillating, possession based football which was later nicknamed tiki taka.


That made the Barcelona board to appoint him even though he was unproven at that point at the big stage. They saw the way the B team played. They wanted him to deploy same tactics to the senior team.


On his first day, Guardiola said: “These three (Ronaldinho, Deco and Samuel
Eto’o) are not in my mind for the future, we will be going forward without
them.

Ronaldinho, Deco, Edmilson, Gio dos Santos, Ezquerro, Crosas, Oleguer and Zambrotta were all shipped out. That is almost all of Rijkaard's first 11. Except just goalkeeper Valdes and Puyol.

Just look up the names in Rijkaard's first team players. Did Pep use any of them? He showed them the door. Total overhauling, without breaking the bank on new players. He promoted several fringe players to the first 11 from the La Masia academy and made them play the greatest football ever seen.

Pep Guardiola built the greatest Barcelona team with which he won all the trophies contested for from the scratch. They played the kind of football never seen before in the history of the round leather game.

Pep Guardiola first 11 in 2012 were all from the Barcelona La Masia academy.

Victor Valdes >> Martin Montoya, >> Carles Puyol, >> Gerard Pique >> Jordi Alba, >> Xavi, >> Sergio Busquets >> Andres Iniesta, Pedro, >> Lionel Messi >> Cesc Fabregas.

That is why he is regarded as a GENIUS by people who know his history.

How then can you say such a man is OVERRATED??

How can you say he won because RIJKAARD laid the blueprint?

How?? What blueprint??

Think again bro.

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Politics / Re: IPOB Hasn't Cancelled Anambra Election Boycott, Decision Not Reached- Prof Nwala by Princefrankie1(m): 7:51pm On Aug 19, 2017
Whether IPOB cancels election boycott or not, three (3) things are involved:

1. It's either Anambarians comes out en masse to vote for their next Governor,

2. They foolishly boycott the election and have an unpopular government inaugurated which will result in several years of wailing and suffering;

OR

3. IPOB orchestrates violence which disrupts the election, and consequentially, FG declares a state of emergency, then deploys a military dictator to govern the affairs of the state.


The bottom line is, even if it's 10 people that comes out to vote, a governor must emerge, or number 3 becomes the case, which will be very very brutal for Anambarians.

THE CHOICE IS THEIRS

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Webmasters / Re: Blogging Is A More Lucrative Job Than Banking – Laila Ijeoma, CEO, Lailasblog by Princefrankie1(m): 3:52pm On Aug 12, 2017
daudugodswill:


Bros, let me tell you something, no matter if every Nigerian inclluding the president of this country join blogging there will definitely be a pile of cash left for you to harness, it takes "Patience to make it here in Nigeria and the world in general" #continueyourpassion

No truer words have been said.

Thanks brother!

~Days be long~
Webmasters / Re: Blogging Is A More Lucrative Job Than Banking – Laila Ijeoma, CEO, Lailasblog by Princefrankie1(m): 3:51pm On Aug 12, 2017
daudugodswill:


Bros, let me tell you something, no matter if every Nigerian inclluding the president of this country join blogging there will definitely be a pile of cash left for you to harness, it takes "Patience to make it here in Nigeria and the world in general" #continueyourpassion

No truer words have been said.

Thanks brother!
Webmasters / Re: Blogging Is A More Lucrative Job Than Banking – Laila Ijeoma, CEO, Lailasblog by Princefrankie1(m): 8:10am On Aug 12, 2017
motherfucker:


Yes that's true BUT those who know how to pull traffic stand out.

If I want to start blogging, I will put 5Million aside for just that and in 4 months, I will become a brand. Yes, 4 months. And in no time I will pull traffic worth millions in page views.

What most people do not know is that it's all about TRAFFIC.

You are right. That's the real deal.
Webmasters / Re: Blogging Is A More Lucrative Job Than Banking – Laila Ijeoma, CEO, Lailasblog by Princefrankie1(m): 7:20am On Aug 12, 2017
I really don't visit that blog, but i will check it out. Its just that everybody is now into blogging. The number of blogs in Nigeria now is innumerable.

Nigerians can jump into everything and make it saturated. Lol

Anyway, more money to your bank account Laila.

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Business / Re: US Stocks Fall As North Korea announces plan to attack. by Princefrankie1(m): 4:00pm On Aug 11, 2017
raker300:
Op stop lying.

USA stocks are fine

Lol. I should stop lying? Are my the news editor of BBC?

Na wa o. The news is posted here with a reliable source. If you doubt it, click the source to confirm.

Abi BBC don dey lie?
Sports / Philippe Coutinho Submits Transfer Request Amidst Barcelona Interest. by Princefrankie1(m): 3:46pm On Aug 11, 2017
Liverpool midfielder Philippe Coutinho has submitted a transfer request, hours after the Premier League club released a statement saying he is not for sale.

Coutinho stated his desire to leave via email. The club rejected the request.


On Wednesday, the Reds rejected a 100 million euros bid (£90m) from Barcelona for the 25-year-old, who is out of Saturday's trip to Watford with injury.

In a statement on Friday, the club's owners said its "definitive stance" was that "no offers will be considered".


Speaking at an earlier news conference previewing the league match at Vicarage Road (12:30 BST kick-off), Liverpool boss Jurgen Klopp said the Brazilian would miss the season opener because of a back problem.


Klopp said he was also a doubt for Tuesday's Champions League play-off first leg at Hoffenheim as he had "not been in training since last Friday".


Coutinho, who scored 14 goals in all competitions last season, signed a new five-year deal in January that did not include a release clause. He joined Liverpool from Inter Milan for £8.5m in 2013.


Barcelona have also had a bid rejected for Borussia Dortmund's 20-year-old forward Ousmane Dembele since they sold Brazil forward Neymar to Paris St-Germain for a world record £200m last week.


The German club confirmed they met Barca representatives but the offer did not meet their valuation of the France international.

Source: http://m.bbc.com/sport/football/40897688

Business / US Stocks Fall As North Korea announces plan to attack. by Princefrankie1(m): 3:28pm On Aug 11, 2017
US stocks saw their largest losses since May on Thursday, as tensions mounted between North Korea and the US.

The Dow Jones fell 0.9% to 21,844.01 and S&P 500 fell 1.5% to 2,438.21.

The Nasdaq lost 2.1% to 6,216.87.

North Korea has announced plans to fire
missiles near the US territory of Guam.


North Korea claims it has missiles capable of reaching the US mainland, but its latest threat is against Guam, a much closer target.

The small island in the Pacific is home to an important strategic US airbase, US nuclear bombers and about 6,000 troops along with some 165,000 civilians. It's a US territory, so an attack on Guam would be an attack on the US.

Meanwhile, President Donald Trump has responded to the threat and intensified his rhetoric, saying North Korea should be "very, very nervous" if it does anything to the US.

He said that the US military is "locked and loaded" to deal with North Korea.

"Military solutions are now fully in place, locked and loaded, should North Korea act unwisely. Hopefully Kim Jong-un will find another path!" he tweeted.



Source: http:// http://www.bbc.com/news/business-40887040

Family / Re: How Do I Keep My Property From A Cheating Wife During Divorce? by Princefrankie1(m): 10:48pm On Aug 09, 2017
InvertedHammer:


If in USA, he is screwed. A child born in marriage is automatically his child irrespective of what the DNA shows. Had it been they were not married, he could easily wriggle out of it by 1) Challenging the authority of DCSS to collect a debt that is not within its power by the Title IV-D of the Social Security Act of 1975. 2) Using the DNA to file a motion to compel the mother to identify the father of the child.
Some states are no fault state and any properties acquired during the course of the marriage is shared equally between the two parties. What state is this case in? Any property acquired before the date of the marriage cannot be shared whether there is a pre-nuptial agreement or not.

Solution: Have your friend schedule appointments with three different family attorneys who specialize only in divorce. He should use the three different opinions and advices to move forward.
Family / Re: How Do I Keep My Property From A Cheating Wife During Divorce? by Princefrankie1(m): 10:47pm On Aug 09, 2017
InvertedHammer:


If in USA, he is screwed. A child born in marriage is automatically his child irrespective of what the DNA shows. Had it been they were not married, he could easily wriggle out of it by 1) Challenging the authority of DCSS to collect a debt that is not within its power by the Title IV-D of the Social Security Act of 1975. 2) Using the DNA to file a motion to compel the mother to identify the father of the child.
Some states are no fault state and any properties acquired during the course of the marriage is shared equally between the two parties. What state is this case in? Any property acquired before the date of the marriage cannot be shared whether there is a pre-nuptial agreement or not.

Solution: Have your friend schedule appointments with three different family attorneys who specialize only in divorce. He should use the three different opinions and advices to move forward.

I liked your post, but it wasn't enough. I needed to let you know what I think in words...

"YOU ARE GOOD BRO. YOU ARE DAMN GOOD"

More knowledge to your brain!!

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Sports / Re: Top 10 Premier League Transfers Of 2017/18 Season (100% Correct) by Princefrankie1(m): 6:44pm On Aug 09, 2017
KevinDein:
Seriously, is Pep overrated or what. Seems the man can't win unless he possesses far more gifted players than his competitors.
At Barca he had Messi and Iniesta and Xavi in their peaks. At Bayern he had by far the most talented team. Now in city and with a team almost similar in capabilities with his rivals, dude couldn't deliver and has to resort to spending vast sums. (He spent almost 80 million pounds on right full backs alone)
What happens to actually coaching the players available to you like what Conte did last season (he made Moses, a westham reject, look like Alves)

Pep isn't special.

Lol. World people.

So he shouldn't replace released players abi? He should play with academy players to prove he is a master tactician right? Lol. Una too funny.

For your information, Manchester City needed total overhauling. Most of their players were aged. If Pep had met a younger and vibrant team, they wouldn't be a need for such spending.

City have released 12 first team players already, and the likes of Bony, Mangala and Delph will still leave before the end of the transfer window.

So he shouldn't replace them? Wadafuq are you saying.

Mind you, every manager needs good players to win. Not just good players, but players that suit your style. Jose Mourinho has won a lot because he has spent a lot. Same with Carlo Ancelotti.

Zidane is winning now consistently because he has the players to execute their plans on the training ground in matches. You can't win the champions league with a team filled with mediocres. You need players above average to read the game and carry out your tactics exceptionally on the pitch. That's the only way you can win and win consistently. Not fairytales.

Check the most successful managers in world football, they all had quality players that suits their tactics.

Mourinho is busy buying players over 6ft tall because they suit his playing style.

Guardiola is buying technical players because they suit his game style.

Why is Pep's case different?

I see hypocrisy in all of this. Yea. Hypocrisy.

Thank you!

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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: UEFA Super Cup: Real Madrid Vs Manchester United (2 - 1) On 8th August 2017 by Princefrankie1(m): 1:04pm On Aug 09, 2017
Ximenez:
It's very annoying bro, sometimes last year i fell for something like this, the only thing that saved my money was access bank poor network.

The guy already convinced me, so i agreed to send 10k to him so I could get his 450odds. For my mind if i staked 10k on that kind of 'sure odds' I've made it in life.

When i transferred the money, i got a transaction unsuccessful response, i did it again, i got the same response, i was very nervous cos it was like 15 minutes to the time he told me the first match will start.

After like two minutes, I got two debit alerts, totalling 20k,i told him what happened and begged him to just send me the game so I could play it and I would settle him later.

He said No, and he sent me the slip with the booking code and the matches covered like that thief did up there, he said he wouldn't send me the game until i pay and if i don't pay he will show me his won ticket later on.

I just gave up, after few hours, my money was reversed into my account, and i was beginning to suspect him.
The next day, I asked for the won ticket, he sent me another thing entirely cheesy.

Since that day I've been in love with Access Bank

You don't mean it. Lol

You are one of the luckiest persons on earth. Imagine. So na network save you so?

Hahahahahahahh. I wan laugh I wan die.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: UEFA Super Cup: Real Madrid Vs Manchester United (2 - 1) On 8th August 2017 by Princefrankie1(m): 12:22pm On Aug 09, 2017
Ximenez:
No I'm serious o, this is not about victory or anything. You can check what i wrote online

Madrid only joined when they won La Decima in 2014, before that the last time they were in the final was 2002.


Yea I know you are serious. But you misunderstood my point. I am not taking about just Real Madrid, I mean the overall performances of Spanish laliga teams in the Uefa table.

Trophies won, Runners up, Simi finals, winning percentage, that's what I meant bro.
Anyway let's leave that aside and talk about more important things.

Anybody with a good market in football or any other sports betting should notify so we can team up and win some bucks this new season.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: UEFA Super Cup: Real Madrid Vs Manchester United (2 - 1) On 8th August 2017 by Princefrankie1(m): 12:13pm On Aug 09, 2017
Ximenez:
Go and borrow money from your father and stake on your fixed game, after you win you can fix the poverty in your generation. I just hope you won't pass this kind of thing to your children. Maybe it's your grandfather that fixed Madrid vs Man U, a uefa super cup final. Do you even know how difficult it is to fix a game in a lower league division, all the processes, from the managers, to the players and match officials. But your grandfather miraculously fixed a uefa match for you.

Like i said, go and borrow 5k and stake on it to fix your life.
Thief!

I know deep down in me that you have got no chill. Lmao.

Easy with the guy bro. All na hustling.

Mugu fall, guyman chop.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: UEFA Super Cup: Real Madrid Vs Manchester United (2 - 1) On 8th August 2017 by Princefrankie1(m): 12:10pm On Aug 09, 2017
Ximenez:
You are wrong about one thing, between 2011 and late 2014 Chelsea was the third in the uefa quotient ranking,

It was :
Bayern Munich
Barcelona
Chelsea.

So don't say no epl team or any league has ever topped bayern in the uefa ranking. As the ranking changes depending on performances.

What do you think happened all those times Bayern beat Barcelona 7 goals to 1 and Dortmund beat Madrid

Lol. Brother Ximenez, you will never give up will you?

Alright.

Let's just stick to our believes bro, and ignore the facts. Lol

No Victor, No Vanquished
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: UEFA Super Cup: Real Madrid Vs Manchester United (2 - 1) On 8th August 2017 by Princefrankie1(m): 11:27am On Aug 09, 2017
sarutobie:

My point is, league forms decline and surge from time to time..at a point it was the Italians, then the spaniards and then the English...now back to the Spaniards... currently the la liga is a stronger league than the EPL..so in terms of 'on the pitch' performance, it is the best...but the EPL has more money, wages per player and tv viewership..so off the pitch, the EPL is a better league for a player to ply his trade in..

You are right in some of your assertions, but as for the emboldened, Epl or any other league have never toped Laliga in the Uefa Champions League points coefficient table.

Laliga have always been represented in Europe always, either by Real Madrid, Barcelona, Atletico Madrid, Sevilla, Villareal, Deportivo, et al.

They have always been there to compete. Always. And that clearly shows their quality and level of consistency.

PS, I am a Chelsea fan. But I just don't buy the Epl better than Laliga story.

It was nice discoursing with you bro.

Have a pleasant day ahead.

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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: UEFA Super Cup: Real Madrid Vs Manchester United (2 - 1) On 8th August 2017 by Princefrankie1(m): 11:11am On Aug 09, 2017
kombats:
Princefrankie1
did you sleep at all since last night?

Lol. Mortal Kombat i slept o. But very late. Around 1am. Not basically because of the arguments though. I was busy with something online.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: UEFA Super Cup: Real Madrid Vs Manchester United (2 - 1) On 8th August 2017 by Princefrankie1(m): 11:10am On Aug 09, 2017
kombats:
Princefrankie1
did you sleep at all since last night?

I enjoy discussing football a lot. That's just my area of intensive interest.

Thanks for your concern bro.

Enjoy the rest of your day!
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: UEFA Super Cup: Real Madrid Vs Manchester United (2 - 1) On 8th August 2017 by Princefrankie1(m): 10:53am On Aug 09, 2017
sarutobie:
lol guys just dey thrown skewed statistics around..from 2005-2013, the EPL missed reaching the finals only twice..in fact in 2009, four EPL teams were in the quarterfinals and 3 in the semifinals..Liverpool was thrashing Madrid like no man's business while Barca was considered the underdogs against Chelsea and manU in 2009...oya count am
2005- Liverpool won the title
2006-arsenal reached the finals
2007-Liverpool reached the finals
2008-Chelsea and manU reached the finals
2009-manU reached the finals
2010-nil
2011-manU reached the finals
2012-Chelsea won....so you see, the EPL was never overrated, they're just having a slump in form...like the seria A giants..

That's not the point brother. The argument is Epl and Laliga, which is BETTER??

I laughed when I saw your Champions League statistics trying to portray Epl as the better and more successful. Lol

Don't even go there. Laliga has dominated since forever in Europe.

Alright, let's consult wiki.

La Liga clubs have won 56 major European trophies between them, more than any other league.

Real Madrid have won 20 titles in total while Barcelona have won 14. Sevilla and Atletico Madrid have contributed another 6 each, while Valencia have won 5.

Deportivo La Coruña have been regulars in the UEFA Champions League while
Athletic Bilbao, RCD Espanyol, Alavés and RCD Mallorca have all contested major finals. Even smaller La Liga clubs, like Villarreal , Celta Vigo and
Málaga have found success in Europe.[sic]

I can't type more bro.

Read https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_football_clubs_in_international_competitions for more information.

You will be marvelled at how Laliga teams have dominated Europe since the days of yore.

But as human, you will still decide to hold on to your convictions. Lol.

I gat no problem with that. Just wanted to rebuff some claims.

So, what's your point bro?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: UEFA Super Cup: Real Madrid Vs Manchester United (2 - 1) On 8th August 2017 by Princefrankie1(m): 10:32am On Aug 09, 2017
sarutobie:

Incomplete stats! Why do people dig up only the stats that makes them seem 'smarter' than the other person? Blackburn Rovers have won the title in 95..Newcastle has finished in the top four a couple of times too..

If you observed well, you would have noticed that I didn't bother to continue typing the names of teams in Spain that have made the top four since 1992.

I mistakenly left out just Newcastle and Aston Villa for England.

If I decide to run down the whole teams in Laliga that have made the top four since 1992, the list is endless.

Mind you, this list is just for the top 3. I can't type more. Check stato.com for more.

REAL MADRID, BARCELONA, ATLETICO MADRID, SEVILLA, VALENCIA, VILLAREAL, ATLETICO BILBAO, DEPORTIVO LACORUNA, MALAGA, CELTA VIGO, MALLORCA, REAL SOCEIDAD, ZARAGOZA, REAL BETIS.

Compare that to your almighty Epl.

I hope you are satisfied now.

Enjoy the rest of your day!

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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: UEFA Super Cup: Real Madrid Vs Manchester United (2 - 1) On 8th August 2017 by Princefrankie1(m): 10:15am On Aug 09, 2017
Ximenez:
Wrong again, the likes of Aston villa, Blackburn Rovers and Newcastle also made the top four within those periods

Aston villa came second in 1993
Blackburn came second in 1994

Blackburn won it in 1995

Newcastle came second in 96,97

So since 1992, it has been man u, man city, Chelsea, Liverpool, Tottenham, Leicester, Everton, Blackburn, Newcastle, Aston villa.

One of major things affecting English teams in Europe is the hectic fixtures and the FA are more concerned about TV right and money to address that


Yea. You are right. Aston Villa and Newcastle. My mistake.

But yet Laliga wins.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: UEFA Super Cup: Real Madrid Vs Manchester United (2 - 1) On 8th August 2017 by Princefrankie1(m): 10:11am On Aug 09, 2017
Ximenez:
And who gave the award of the best team in the premier league to Man U? I guess it's you, A team that has not won the league for close to five years now and finished 6th.

Mind you, that super cup final was a competitive game, and on another day Man U could have won. And what normally affect epl teams in European competitions is the schedule of the league matches, mou had to make some sacrifice last season by resting players and it paid off.

The English teams should fare better in the UCL this season, three of the five teams who will be representing England have won it before so the experience is there unlike last season which featured some European weaklings like Arsenal, Leicester and Tottenham for England. Even when Barcelona came to Etihad last season they were well beaten

I don't understand what you mean by Epl schedule affecting the teams. Does Barcelona or Real Madrid play Laliga on the Friday before Champions League games?

You guys can make excuses for Africa. Some will say it's because the Epl matches are tougher and it takes a toll on Epl teams in Europe. Can you imagine that? Lol

Teams like Bournemouth, Burnley, Westham, Westbrom and the likes are tough? Come on!

As for your question about Manchester United being the best team in Epl, the answer is, Yes they are. Because they are the most successful till date. No contest.

A team that won 13 Epl titles in 21 years? Check the maths bro.

If they are not the best, I wonder who is.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: UEFA Super Cup: Real Madrid Vs Manchester United (2 - 1) On 8th August 2017 by Princefrankie1(m): 9:59am On Aug 09, 2017
Ximenez:
I'm not a Man U fan. I'm just saying the match was closely contested. Man U had their chances too. There's nothing like could have, would have in football, in the end it's the result that matters. Leaving isco on for more time maybe might have affected the game, but Bale had no influence on the match at all. He's not even in the first eleven by merit, but they might decide to use him anytime they remember how much they bought him.

Lol. You get mouth o this guy. You are right about Bale though. But for last night, he was in the game.

I am not a Real Madrid fan too. My blood bleeds blue.

As for the match being closely contested, anyway, people who didn't watch the game might believe you, due to the score line.

But some times, score lines are deceitful in football. There are numerous instances, but a typical example is Bayern Munich vs Chelsea at the Alianz arena in 2012. Watch that game again, and you will shake your head in disbelieve.

Bayern totally outclassed and outplayed Chelsea, but Chelsea won.

That's football. It happens that way sometimes. Last night, Real Madrid totally outclassed and outplayed Manchester United, but it ended 2.1, as if it was a close contest.

Sorry United fans, but the difference in football, and quality of players was laid bare once again.

Even Mourinho confirmed that in his post match interview.
He said: "In the Premier League, there's no team like Real Madrid. There are no replicas of Isco, Modric, Casemiro or Kroos."
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: UEFA Super Cup: Real Madrid Vs Manchester United (2 - 1) On 8th August 2017 by Princefrankie1(m): 9:31am On Aug 09, 2017
Ximenez:
It didn't show at all, if it does Madrid should have won with a margin of 4 goals or more.

Had it been that through ball that was laid fell into the hands of a more experienced striker and not a 19 year old boy.

Be sincere bro. What didn't show?
Na wa o. Una sabi lie well well.

That match that was like Real Madrid vs Getafe Until Zidane decided to substitute Bale and Isco for little children to alleviate the impending humiliation.

It should have been 4nil before Matic's shot that Lukaku pounced on.

Zidane had to show some respect by taking off Bale and Isco for Varquez and Asensio in that crucial time of the match.

Remember Mourinho complained that Conte should have showed some respect last season when he was still on the touchline motivating Chelsea players to score more goals after being 4nil up. Lol

Zidane didn't want a repeat of that. Mourinho was already talking to Zidane after they were 2nil up and Bale hit the post from close range. That's why he took of his two best players, and told Ronaldo to wait until the final minutes of the game.

Mourinho had this to say after the game: "In the Premier League, there's no team like Real Madrid. There are no replicas of Isco, Modric, Casemiro or Kroos."


Don't worry, you guys might meet again in the Champions League. Lol

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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: UEFA Super Cup: Real Madrid Vs Manchester United (2 - 1) On 8th August 2017 by Princefrankie1(m): 9:18am On Aug 09, 2017
OVA200

Greetings brother. I admire the way you made your points without being aggressive.
Enjoy the rest of your day!
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: UEFA Super Cup: Real Madrid Vs Manchester United (2 - 1) On 8th August 2017 by Princefrankie1(m): 9:04am On Aug 09, 2017
lymelyte:
why are you fooling yourself? So in this modern era, you still can't tell the big difference between both leagues? I dey shame for you.

It hasn't gotten to insults brother. We were just arguing football. It's fun bro. No be fight.

I have made lots of valuable friends over the years due to constructive and abuse free football arguments. I have dined and wined with very affluent and much older people everywhere I have been just because we argued football at the newspaper vendor or viewing center without insults.

Football unites people and makes them friends bro, not separate them and make them enemies.

You could have easily made your points without resorting to insults.

Enjoy the rest of your day!

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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: UEFA Super Cup: Real Madrid Vs Manchester United (2 - 1) On 8th August 2017 by Princefrankie1(m): 8:40am On Aug 09, 2017
iluvpomo:

Wrong about Leicester.... they were the champions the previous season. In the season when they beat Sevilla Leicester was 12th in the EPL while Sevilla was 4th .... do not try to 419 the facts there .... grin
Are you ready to bet that Atletico Madrid will win La Liga this coming season?? Put your money where your mouth is ... let me collect free beer from you grin grin
The EPL has had different teams in the top 4, even Mr 4th place Wenger was disengaged from his spot last season. This is what makes the EPL exciting. With La Liga, it's the same story.... will Barca or Real Madrid win it this season?? ..... BORING!!

Alright brother. I will reply you one last time because I have enjoyed our discourse and it's been abuse free, I commend you for that.

You see, at the emboldened, you are once again WRONG. Those are the kind of unfounded claims you guys make that I am trying to correct.

The following is culled from Wikipedia.

one significant feature of the Epl during the mid-2000s was the dominance of the so-called "Big Four" clubs: Manchester United, Arsenal, Chelsea and Liverpool.

During this decade, they dominated the top four spots, which came with UEFA Champions League qualification, taking all top four places in 5 out of 6 seasons from 2003–04 to 2008–09 inclusive. [Sic]

Arsenal went as far as winning the league without losing a single game in 2003–04.

In May 2008, Kevin Keegan stated that "Big Four" dominance threatened the division, "This league is in danger of becoming one of the most boring but great leagues in the world." [Sic]

The trend continued until Tottenham and Manchester City broke the dominance in the years following 2009.

Manchester City won the title in the
2011–12 season , becoming the first club outside the "Big Four" to win since 1994–95.
[sic]

You see bro, the Epl has been dominated by a few teams, precisely Manchester United. From 1992 to 2013, 21 long years, United won 13 Epl titles. Leaving just 8 titles for Blackburn, Arsenal, Chelsea and Manchester City to share.

And you say it is more COMPETITIVE because anybody can win it? Who told you so? Except you have a different definition of that term COMPETITIVE.

I decided to quote wikipedia this time to see if you will now argue with wiki. Lol

As for Laliga, let me take from 1992, (that is the year of Epl inception) to bring equity to the argument.

All of REAL MADRID, BARCELONA, ATLETICO MADRID, SEVILLA, VALENCIA, DEPORTIVO LACORUNA, ATLETICO BILBAO, VILLAREAL, CELTA VIGO, MALAGA have made the top four on different occasions.

In Epl, it's been MANCHESTER UNITED, ARSENAL, CHELSEA, LIVERPOOL, EVERTON, MANCHESTER CITY, TOTTENHAM, and finally, LEICESTER.

You can now make your comparisons bro. Lol

Argue with facts brother. This two Leagues are not mates in anything. Anything!!!

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