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Available9:
What's your definition of make it...?

Gone are those days when people travel abroad and in no time, they will start sending money and building houses...

Living in a society where you have all the basic amenities, but about 75% of your money go for bills...when comparing, compare the 25% with what people earn in Nigeria...in business, it is called take home...

Someone who earns 2000 dollars every month abroad and pays bills of 75% is equal to someone who earns N500, 000 in Nigeria... because if that person removes the 75%, he will be left with $500 as take home.

Before you argue with me, rent in abroad is paid on monthly basis and it can be between $750 to $2000 for most of our Japa brethren

But our Nigerians electricity is making to look the same. Imagine me paying nepa bills higher than my house rent.

madone:
So I beg to disagree with all your points

-The only one that came close to reality is racism. But in Nigeria we have tribalism and Nepotism.

-brother Nigerian youths work abroad pay tax and have value for their money. What is the essence of spending money to buy light unit bit you never get light.
What is the meaning of recharging your TV subscription but never get to see light to watch the programs on it till its expires

-What is the use of paying Tax and your government cant show you what the tax is used for or do you think we don't pay tax in Nigeria? Well let me tell u some of us do.

-Who told you Nigeria is is safe. In Nigeria there many ways to die in a day.
I from bokoharam, to herdsmen, kidnappers, ritualistic, hit and run drivers., palmpay, sharkloan
JAPA has helped many families so never call people who japa cowards it's simply means you don't know the meaning of the word coward

Hmm you too are right. There are many truth in what he says. Honestly if we have a good gorvment, I don't think any body will ever think of traveling out.
Let Join hands together and fight this people, tribalism is making it difficult to fight for a common goal here.

Princewill1:
This is a rebuttal of this thread: https://www.nairaland.com/7936687/11-reasons-why-must-japa#:~:text=11.,life%20expectancy%20is%20very%20high.

DISCLAIMER:
There is a notion that once you present an anti-japa argument, you're automatically an agent working for the govt. I want to state here that I have never supported this Apc govt since their coming to power in 2015. My contrary opinion on japa stems from my detest of youths mass-migration for economic reasons. I see it as an act of cowardice and stupidity.

This is not just for Nigerians japaing alone. I'm also disgusted whenever I see pictures of thousands of able bodied Latino youths who are at the US-Mexico border begging to be allowed entry into the US. These youths coming to together to mass-migrate can also link-up to take back their country via any possible means. Because if their home countries were better, they won't be moving out enmass. One of the reasons why the citizens of the country you're japaing to often discriminate against you is because you have proven to be a weakling seeking an easy excape or an inferior who are incapable of fixing their problems.
The only mass-migration i support is if it's due to serious natural disaster or large scale political persecution like that of Israel-Palestinian conflict. Below are the 11 reasons why you shouldn't Japa from Nigeria.

1.) It's More Easier To Be A Dollar Millionaire/Billionaire In Nigeria:

There are millions of Nigerians in the diaspora who are supposedly living in the first world economy and are working in various fields of human endeavor. But it may interest you to know that non have ever made it into Forbes billionaires list. But those at home keep making the list back to back.
This is important to point out because wealth building is a crucial topic to every real man and majority of Nigerian men moving are doing so mainly due to financial reasons.
Truth is, Nigeria is the largest market in Africa and a developing economy. There are plenty of wealth to be created in a "developing economy" than in a "develop economy", that's why as you are trooping out, Chinese, Lebanese and Indians are trooping in. Nigerians are raising $20k-30k in this economy to Japa while average Americans can't boast of $10k in their bank accounts, they live check to check.

2.) African Communal Living:

Nigeria offers the African social support system that you won't find in the Western countries. You fit run into financial emergency, your family will gather to raise funds for you, if you child misbehaves outside elders go assist you to discipline the child before you return home, if your house is on fire the whole neighborhood will join hands in puting out the fire, if you're cooking late night and ran out of maggi, if you knock on your neighbor door, him go deliver you, if your co-tenant never see you for 2 to 3 days, he go knock for your door to check up on you. All these don't happen in your Japa destination. In the West, you fit dey sick and later kpai inside your room and stay there for over a month nobody go know until your body begins to the smell.

3.) There Is More Insecurity Abroad:

You are 7times more likely to be shot in any city in America than in Lagos. Almost every Western country has violent "Far-Right Groups" who are frustrated and bitter with their Govts for allowing influx of migrants to erode their society and culture. These groups are like a time bomb waiting to go off because they can easily turn violent by attacking migrants especially black people. The big truth is, insecurity especially in southern Nigeria is over-reported and amplified on social media. There are violent crimes in every country. The crime news you read on social media especially in South of the country is commiserate with our population. No one can pull out any data anywhere to show that crime rate in the South has reached an epidemic proportions as believed on social media. In fact if you ban social media for 1year in Nigeria and conduct an opinion poll on insecurity. You will be surprised that Nigerians will tell you that insecurity has reduced. Just recently, a govt minister was robbed on the highway in South Africa. If that were to happens in Nigeria, Japa will be trending in Nigeria for more than a week. Most Nigerians haven't seen a bokoharam militant before but bokoharam will attack a village in Borno State close to the border with Chad, someone living in Lekki will read the news online and tweet that he wants to Japa due to insecurity.

4.) Easy Access To Natural Foods:

Nigeria has abundant healthy cheap natural foods and it's even taken for granted here. The people in the abroad you wants to go are jealous of your menu. Unhealthy and disease-causing canned and processed foods are what you will end up to when you finally japa because you will pay through your nose to place your hands on any organic food there.

5.) Favourable Weather Condition Throughout The Year:

Nigeria has one of the best climate conditions you can find. We have no extreme weather here. No severe temperature, Tornado or Harricane. Weather conditions in your Japa destination can cause sudden emergency situations. It can sometimes cause a whole city to be evacuated.

6.) No Racism:

Truth remains that after you Japa, you and your family will at one point experience both subtle and harsh discrimination based on your skin color or accent and you will never integrate into the Western society not even in a million years. Black Americans that japaed 400yrs ahead of you are yet to be fully integrated and accepted, I don't know who is motivating you that you will be accepted fully or that your own case will be different.

7.) Nigeria Better On Raising Cultured Kids:

If as a Nigerian, you are cautious of how your kids will be raised, you better stay back home, because in the West, your kids doesn't belong to you. They belongs to the government and authorities there are free to teach and instill any idealogy they deem necessary. So don't be shocked if your 7yrs old son are taught how to switch gender or pronoun at school and given free lgtv literature with erotic images.

8.) Nigeria Better On Entertainment And Fun Activities:

You can fall into depression abroad due to loneliness and stress from doing multiple jobs but not in Nigeria. With little money in Nigeria, you can go partying and balling till dawn day in day out. You fit die onto enjoyment.

9.) No Weird Or Crazy New Culture:

Abroad will humble a deeply religious person who is against homosexuality to work as a caregiver for gay couples. You will be forced to embrace trans and gay people, feminism and made to reject polygamy. I doubt if men have rights in the West. You risk losing everything to a woman, this don't only apply to your wife. Even your long-term girlfriend who you are cohabiting with, can be given a share of assets after a breakup by the court. If a random woman accuses you of rape, the system will already treat you as a convict. I recently observed that premier league captain band is now decorated with pride colors (lgtv flag) to support the community. And you know what awaits any player that openly criticizes it or refuses to wear the band. He risk getting cancelled and he should kiss his footballing career a goodbye. They will use his punishment as deterrent to others. All these new crazy woke policies and behaviors are not practiced in Nigeria.

10.) Cost Of Living Is Cheaper:

Thousands of Americans and EU citizens are retiring like kings in South East Asia and South America ie Thailand, Indonesia, Mexico, Chile etc. You can look it up. Not that they don't love their home countries but because they are excaping the high cost of living in the West. Accommodation, transportation, education, local foods etc are still cheaper in Nigeria. The amount you will paid on a match-box apartment in London or New York can fetch you a year rent of 2bedrooms flat in a good location in any major Nigerian city.

11.) No Rat Race Or Extreme Taxation In Nigeria:

You will labour abroad for a month and the rigged system will use "high taxation, high cost of living and the scam credit system" to return everything back to the system in order for you to repeat the circle again. In a bid not to go homeless on the cold streets, and also to put food on your table, you have no other option than to keep repeating the circle until the time you will finish your term of slavery due to old age, then your children will start where you stopped and the circle continues.
Truth is, the entire world is controlled by the globalists in the West, the further away you're from the West and it's entanglements the freer you will become. If the 1% elite in the West removes the rigging in the system you will be able to secure enough bags and retire early. But they stands to lose if people starts excaping the system early, they need your manpower for longer period of time to maintain their industries and establishments. This explains why the more income you earn there, the more rediculous taxes you pays because the system is continously gauging you and the tax system (one of it's tools of control) is strictly and heavily guided, defaulters risks jail term. The system was programmed in a way that you will never get enough in order not for you to start thinking of excaping the slave camp early until you finish your term of slavery.
This is one of reasons why rich and exposed Nigerians don't fancy living abroad. Even most African ex-footballers returns home immediately after the end of their career in Europe. An average Nigerian coming from lack, hunger and extreme poverty and who is daydreaming of Japa won't be able to see this anomaly. Living in Nigeria will provide you the opportunity to excape Matrix.

Hmm I concord. Am at no 8. Am enjoying myself right now. And I can continue with no kind of harassment.
To be sincere only the poor ones among us that japa.

justicenms1:
Please pray for me if you are kind enough pls call me 08028625491 my life is about to end right before my eyes I can't help it help a brother.

What do you want?

kingsways:
So called cash transfer is unacceptable stealing of public funds

There is simply no reliable data of poor households in Nigeria anywhere

That's still remains a mystery. How do they get their proper data of these so called vonurable Nigerians.

Righthussle:
Na court go settle the matter las las


If you're reading this, stop giving MIRACLE healers your hard earned money. MIRACLE healing is fake. Go to hospital when you are sick

This one no well

damola1:
All the reasons given by the OP is valid. But purely for economic reasons.

Financial isn’t the only tangible reason to consider staying or leaving 9ja. Cos after you solve basic financial issues. You will need to now deal with being human


I recently watched blue zones on Netflix. And found out. At the top of reasons to be in Nigeria is if you can take care of your finances.


1. Community. To deal with mental stresss.

Healthy living. And at the root of humans is our need to eat products from the ground.

Those products from the ground is very expensive to purchase now.
Mind u there is also no security in Nigeria

writeprof:
The lack of fear at night is one thing that surprised me in Benin Republic. We saw a grandma in her 70s off to take bike from Calavi to Cotonou around 12 midnight, the roads were busy and I was wondering comparing it to Nigeria. This was last month.

I traveled to benin since last 17 years ago before I married, you don't know the difference between day and night, how do I come to know this, the guy I went to see was not around so after waited for so long to no avail and it was already late in the night, I was ashamed somehow so I decided to take a stroll beleive me the whole street was bobblin in the night enjoyment everywhere people selling food at each corner their streets was beautiful, white people moving around without fear unless you look at your watch before you know it was very late.
This should be more than twenty years ago now compare it to now. They would have advanced more.

MrCork:
Yess brother: u can enter malawi, Zimbabwe, togo, uganda or north replabic of east congo sir!!(no oofencse)

Hmm I was surprised when a woman from Uganda came to buy stuffs she was selling from Eko idumota. Nigeria would have been great if we have a God fearing leaders.

chidooh1:
1m can take you as far as Libya but remember you are on transit eying Europe. This is for rugged husslers and determined beings ready to face any condition. You still need to do some menial hussle in a short while and proceed to Italy or somewhere else based on your calculations.

Travelling to Libya by road or air
So let's start from there

jaksmillioniar:
Cococandy help uve been living abroad for over 10yrs yet u cant count 1 person dat u take abroad. Wat a life of wickedness if u can help why cant u shared wat u know

LOL. Those ones are worst they will even discouraged you from traveling.

orisa37:
UNWORTHY LAMENTATION. THE WAYS OF THE WICKED SHALL PERISH.

One religion house killed two cows today and poured the blood on the road, without any iota of respect see blood everywhere. So we are discussing it with my wife. So i told my wife Nigerians does not respect for the blood of their citizens is it the blood of animals they are going to respect
We don't have regard for the life of human beings always playing politics with it. It is very pathetic

Nazgul:
You can't buy a full chicken for N6,500. Unless it died and the owner wanted to sell it off urgently.

The presence of the head, leg and liver shows that it was either slaughtered or it recently just died cos frozen chickens don't come with heads, feet or liver.

Currently, 1 kilo of the smallest chicken lap (4pieces) is 4k. Two kilos would be 8k. This chicken you're claiming to buy for N6,500 is way over 3 kilos.

And if you must know, live broiler is 14k. The biggest size...So either you tell us the story behind how you bought a full chicken for such amount, or you stop lying to our faces.

Most of the people here saying it's a wonderful deal haven't bought chicken in months (or even years) I bought a live chicken 2 weeks ago for 14k with abeg, and bought 2kilos of chicken laps just yesterday. So I know how much these things are sold.

I know that guy is lying, the chicken is even a big one, here in Lagos is more than 20,000. He just wants to be on front page, that's what I see.

Goldenchyke:
A Muslim friend was very sick and I went to visit him. His situation was bad that he was rejected in hospital.

As a Christian who believe in the efficacy of prayer,I felt I should pray for him, but first of all I sought the permission of
the members of his family, and they gave me the go ahead, and I prayed .

When he recovered after some weeks, he came, thanking me for praying for him.

LESSON
Always seek people's consent before offering your prayers or even help . Unsolicited assistance can backfire.

Hmm a collique of mine fell disappointed for not praying for him, when he explained his odea to me, and I told him you must give me the permission before I can start praying for you, we had a little argument concerning these.
Even if you go to hospital visitation or evangelism you needs a permission from the hospital before conducting any prayer to their patients.

Antoeni:
As Christian, We Should knows Our Limits , There are do's and don'ts in every Organization, Abide or Quit.
It Serves Her Right

What if it is the will of God for her to come back to Nigeria and fulfill her ministry
Is UK heaven

MatrixReloaded:
Keeping you there means they will be feeding you. So eat the bread and beans, whilst in there custody, no charges and no action against you. It's even illegal to detain you after 24 hrs. I know that if you have a good partner he or she will find you go police station and report case of missing person.

You're right, I was single then. My only friend was that my Cid though he is late now, he was the one looking me everywhere because my door was open I have just returned from work, that what makes him surprised more. God uses him for me, otherwise nobody knows my where about.
I refused to eat their food, I just lost my appetite.

Calitoscassius:
This what happens when the President is corrupt droglord and thief.

But what i don't understand is why people carry their bank card or bank app around on their phones. especially if they don't have to.. leave your phone with your banking app at home, leave your bank card at home too.

What about the friene with tattoo? Did they witdrew money from his bank? I am guessing, NO!

They are coming from the club or drinking joint so they always have their gargets with them for easy money transactions.

MatrixReloaded:
As they were oppressing you and you didn't make inform to passerby its obvious they found incriminating item in your phones. Remember no police have the right to search your mobile phone. Is better to be sent to cell and get bail than to be harassed and swoop off 350k. Remember your right is your identity.

They will delay you until it is midnight and they can charge you for anything.
Only God that saves me from this, they picked me from 9 pm move me round Lagos till it was very late in the night, they just dump me at one police station, since I have no money with me and nobody knows my where about I spent one good week with them, unluckily for them it was my friend who was a Cid that was able to find me there very far from my house, we didn't give them a dine for my bailing.

Zooposki:
Nigerian Men only have power when it comes to women. Them never born any Nigerian police wey fit do this rubbish to me as a woman.

Pray you never meet them.
If they find heavy cash with you they can even kill you and disappear into a thin air.
And nothing will happen.

Kukutenla:
The phone recognising your face means they didn't really beat you
With all these evidence, I doubt those guys are truly police men
I don't expect police to be dis dumb leaving footprints everywhere

Hmm you're very right. They have been waiting there to catch those guys coming late from the club, knowing fully well that they have money with them or widraw tru their apps. However they might still police using fake registered number to defraud their tagets. When you trace the number it will lead you to nothing.
So the onus is the net work providers who did not do their job very well.
If there is anybody to be sued, they should be the one.

Stevosty:
Slow down, press the horn for the one at the back to go back to his lane and be ready to swerve off the road possibly a mad driver.

Good answer but it depends on how sudden you meet it.

greggng:
I will face him straight ahead . Both of us will reach hell same day

Hmm you will face 16 legs trailers
I bet you nothing go happen to the truck drivers

APOPTOSIS:
Watch the video naaaaa. Everything is there.

please i don't have enough data, can you please surmarize. Thanks

Codedpriest:
This is really Sad

We should be mindful the way we use the word sad.
What if it is going to be in favor of the masses
Africa is not ripe for democracy yet, it is very clear for all to see.
You know why all this eastern governors don't like kanu, s ideas of separation is because they are benefiting massively from this government.

marcmao:
The fact that you refused to BUY THEM BREAD, is the reason they offered you bread while you were leaving.
you should at least seek advises from Elderly and experienced men whenever matters of marital affairs comes up.
You don't assume or use your city knowledge in doing things alone.
Most of our city life styles is archaic to these village dwellers.
Many village dwellers love bread, especially when the bread is sliced or coming from inter state.
Till date, whenever am visiting my in-laws, i still buy them bread and they appreciate it so much.

you need to grow up and be matured.
to me, you never ripe for marriage o.
you need to learn a lot of traditions.

This is deep. Whenever I travel to the village and I did not give my neighbors bread, they usually gets angry with me. They love bread from Lagos so much and I don't know why not to talk of going to my in-law how. Haba.
Even here in Lagos when an following anybody to see their in-laws we always ask questions to know what we must bring along.
We did that to my colleague who is a pastor, when it involves marriage you must ask question before going they don't want to know you are a pastor as far as traditions demands.

emmyt2:
Since you stand to be corrected. I will correct you.
He travelled all the way from Lagos to PH to visit his potential inlaws. From the narration. I think he travelled by road which is a long journey. So, the bread would serve a purpose.

Another point is. Probably, both of them are from different tribes. So giving him the bread serves as him being welcome into the family. That is a sign of being loved by the gf family members.

No. I disagree with you because every tribe in Nigeria has its own local delicacy that are peculiar to that region ,they should have gotten something of such in readiness for the would be inlaw and not Bread that is very common in the town no matter how expensive the bread is .Even if it is something of #100 once it is local it is most appreciated by me.
Bread is a NO NO AS far as I am concern .

They spoke a parable using that Bread, he should have bought them bread instead of biscuits, haba who does that.
But unfortunately he didn't understand that Parable.

GO0DHardDick:
Personally it's weird for an in-law to give a son in-law bread. Who does that? Jezz! Personally I won't even accept anything. Na me supposed dey give them gifts not the other way round.

However, in your case, you're supposed to buy them bread bro. It's the normal Nigerian custom thing. Na U supposed buy them that bread but because U thought you're in the west you decided to buy them biscuit. Dey play

Why U go visit your future in-law without the girl being there? She didn't tell U about her family ways or what exactly? Una never serious.

Hmm they might be speaking parable with that bread,
If I visit my inlaw ten times a day, I will buy them bread,. I did that when I lost my father in law doing the burial.

pharmaking:
Small boy carry biscuits go in-law house on a first visit.

That also is not only weird but awkward to me.

Yeye dey smell.Better call mama and apologise.

Wrongest gift indeed

He dey look for supporter luckily he don get one up there.

Biola67:
Maybe the mama see how you quick chop the first food finish .. she see say you dey hungry

No be lie, from Lagos to ph no be small journey, the guy eyes go don go inside, abeg I no fit laugh

Biodun556:
Israel is a pseudo entity. It will sooner or later be dismantled.

Hmm yes without them the whole world would have been islamized, there will be nothing like Israel, even Usama knows this.

Lifestone:
Medicine after death. This should have been done prior to 2023 General Election. Tinubu wouldn't have become the President.
I kept saying Nigerians didn't prefer APC after the Buhari disaster, opposition parties out of greedy individuals divided their votes and handed the election to APC. Check the figures.

You are right, none of this three people is ready to back down, and drop their pride. All of them wanted be president, how is that possible
Atiku is also to be blamed as well he betrayed the southeast governor and use dollars to have his way, so they need to deal with him on their own way.
That's the result you've seeing today.
So APC uses that opportunity to graped the power

[quote author= post=126972271]Just imagine!!
Emefiele and all the enemies of the nation,
AKA, children of hate, frustrations and bitterness hailing him back then, all of you will never end well in life, for all you made innocent Nigerians to go through because of your hatred and bitter politics.
Swines everywhere.
Who be this. Mumu? Is he the central bank governor or the president? You are the hypocrite here. If Goodluck was the president then, you wouldn't be saying this.


Same you that was saying Up Emefiele,
Serves Tinubu right.
Same you that was rejoicing for what Emefiele did just few months ago.
Same you we saw you and your ilks dancing 🕺 and rejoicing about that evil decision is the same person typing this??
Una Hypocrisy na top notch Hypocrisy! [/quote]