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[quote author=Hotfreezer post=72775117][/quote]Good job the boy’s Edo.

OzziOhinoyi:
End shall never wonder. Hmmn.

You dyslexic or what?

bigtt76:
Cook your own jollof rice at home naaaa. Food at parties aren't meant to satisfy you but a measure of appreciating your presence

I take it you’ve only attended Igbo parties.

delpee:
So many uneccesary arguments derailed the thread!

Nigerians of various tribes were taken to Jamaica hence the use of Igbo and Yoruba words there. They're now Jamaicans anyway irrespective of their origins.

Shared words are common in our languages in Nigeria. It's not a big deal. Most tribes have their own names for things which may appear more predominant in other areas. For instance Ogbono is known as Apon in Yorubaland. Certainly it's not as widely eaten as it is in Igboland so many (especially in the urban areas) may not know. There are vegetables in the Yoruba hinterland which are hardly known in Lagos too.

Say it louder for her. Someone who can’t tell the difference between scientific name and Igbo name or at least admit that Igbo and Yoruba share words and foods in common.

baby124:
No one questioned yam my dear. But you tried to say Igbos own yam. Which is not true. Yoruba’s for centuries have ingeniously processed yam to create a variety of foods. Which shows ownership of the food crop. It’s our main source of carbohydrate and cassava (Gaari) which we soak or eat as Eba. Other’s like Igbos and Deltans eat yam and cassava as regular pounded yam and cassava as Akpu or starch. The swallows are much more limited. You need to look at food processing to understand the mastery of food. Also, the Yoruba yam is different in taste and texture.

You make me wonder how much you know about Igbo food in the first place.

Men harvesting yam’s a well-known element of Igbo agriculture and tradition. Not to mention that yam as a crop’s pretty widespread all over the tropics. What you’re doing is akin one tribe laying claim to plantain simply because we’ve all heard of dodo.

Bumped.

Benekruku:
But Enugu people are so matured and enlightened

Dude must be an an Anambra or Abia man


Enugu city with chaps I know are far over this kinda move

Thats a Western state in the East

Imo is already Western and claimed

It’s more the other way round. Ekiti’s nothing other than a sub-Imo clan in the west. The same goes for all the Yoruba clans that have a love of ceremony and ritual. All stems from Owerri.

Pure Yoruba’s too degenerate for any Igbo subgroup to be seen as a half-breed version of them.

Not that any of that matters on a thread like this. RIP to the poor man.

EternalTruths:
I don't believe this story because IPOB members will never disrupt church service.

I believe they went there themselves to pray.

They’ve disturbed yam festivals I’ve attended so it’s not outside the realm of possibility.

Ishilove:
You just shaded Ukwuani people. Kwantinue. Last last we go gather you for road beat shege commot for ya body

Tell you who he did shade though, one of my cousins. Typical Emeka he is.

This sort of thread’s been done to death on here already but I just thought it would be a good idea to talk about Igbo cultural influence in the New World without measuring up slave numbers with other tribes. Cultural influence in the southern US and Barbados specifically.

cc. RedboneSmith, bigfrancis21, ezeagu

Moneywomen17:
where have u lived in the Sw? Have u lived in ondo, ekiti or even Ogun state. Cuz average ondo and ekiti person know all the soup I listed up there maybe some Ogun people may not know some and it’s actually common along with a lot of vegetables soup eaten in the place I mention. Now if u are talking about oyo or Lagos where there delicacy is Amala and ewedu that makes sense cuz I know a Lagos Yoruba babe who doesn’t know what ewuro soup is despite the fact that a 15 year old ekiti girl can cook it perfect. In ekiti and ondo and amala is not the delicacy pounded yam is with variety of soup I rest my case

Ekiti and Ondo people are a different breed.

baby124:
Lol. No one knows what Akpurakpu is. People only know what Egusi is. Egusi is as traditional as Eko in Yorubaland.

You have no knowledge of what you talk about abeg. It’s so obvious. Ogbono and Peppersoup is Niger-Delta food but you are claiming it. Anyway I have things to do with my time today.

That’s one of the more traditional Igbo ways of cooking egusi. Of course you don’t know what it is because you know next to nothing about Igbo food. Clearly.

Pepper soup and nsala soup are as Igbotic as food comes. Shared by other regions or not.

Like I said you’re tragically naive and ignorant. 143 people wouldn’t have liked my first post about beans in Igboland if I had no knowledge at all of what I was talking about. Two other people wouldn’t have said to you what I’m saying if you were a tenth as knowledgeable as you pretend on here. The fact that you had the guts to actually question whether yam’s an Igbo staple shows up your own ignorance more than my alleged lack of knowledge. Which only you’ve claimed on this thread thus far. Not to mention your lack of any real rebuttal or valid counter-arguments more elaborate than claiming Igbos stole egusi and pepper soup from other parts. You’re starting to sound like a right clown.

Deep down you know what I’m saying.

You’re tragically naive. No point debating with you any further.

I’ll ask you one last time still. Is akpurakpu egusi the Yoruba style Igbos adapted in the recent past?

You’ve had zilch to say for that specifically up till now. It’s you who’s choosing to remain willfully ignorant and you know that deep down. At least with other posters of your kind I get some sort of mutual acknowledgment and intelligent debate for the most part. You on the other hand gloss over every other point but still claim to have good counter-arguments.

baby124:
Now I am tribalistic and Igbos and Yoruba’s must be related. Lol, is that your conclusion to claim the soup? Then you are talking about manic- depressive. Who resurrected the thread to prove a point and run around in circles?

Tongue-in-cheek. Analogy.

baby124:
By the way, Ogbono is an Edo soup. Not Igbo. Yoruba’s call it Apon in their variation, and it’s extremely delicious.

So why is ogbono an Igbo name?

baby124:
No my dear, you are genuinely slow. I am stating facts here and you cannot counter it.

I’ve countered all your points but you’re either genuinely ignorant or taking the piss.

Common name and Igbo name aren’t the same. Nor are scientific names.

You’ve said nothing re. egusi.

You need to do better.

baby124:
The original name for moi moi is moyin moyin. It’s a Yoruba food. So is Akara and Egusi. The fact that Igbos eat it doesn’t mean it’s their food. When did Igbos start calling Akpu, fufu? Fufu is a Ghanaian term for odorless swallow while Akpu is the variation Igbos eat which has a smell. This breakdown was written in the not too distant past when these foods had travelled. I will show you traditional Yoruba soups and you will see Egusi there. Same way we can’t claim things like Ugwu because they have made their way out of Igboland into the mainstream Nigerian food culture.

Yam pottage is a Yoruba dish traditionally my dear. Everyone has a modification of it now. It’s called Asaro. Even I have my own modification of it too.

One thing Yoruba are good at is naming things. It’s easy to trace back the origin of the name. It’s usually a one word name. The use of yam pottage and cow pea pudding is to avoid writing Asaro and moimoi. Lol. Those are the traditional names of those foods, so is Egusi. You can see melon soup is the common name in igboland just like I said. We never ever call Egusi, melon soup.

Common name = English name. The Igbo equivalents were all listed first. Like I say you’re obviously taking the piss at this stage so I’m done.

baby124:
Yam is a staple of Igboland? So it is in Yorubaland. Yam or Isu has always been there too. In fact the Yams in Yorubaland are a central staple point. Yam has been processed by Yoruba’s to create Amala, Lafun and other morsels. They also eat pounded yam aka Iyan.

“So it is in yorubaland.”

That’s kind of the point though isn’t it. I’ll say it one more time, Igbo and Yoruba share foods in common because of a similar root. The only thing I have an issue with is your attitude of superiority which slips out in obvious ways. Even to the extent of making out-and-out erroneous statements and ascribing traditional Igbo foods popularly known by Igbo names to other regions (like we both know you did with ogbono soup).

I still await your answer on egusi but knowing you you’ll ignore that for the dozenth time.

This thread’s more circular than manic-depressive insanity. I can spin out this point further but you’re just being blissfully ignorant at this stage and that’s for show to anyone who’s not mega-tribalistic. I’m out.

Probz:
I still await your answer on whether you think ofe achara with okazi and ogbaloti egusi is the Yoruba style that Igbos copied when you were growing up. You’ve conveniently skated over that.

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That style of egusi’s the most traditional in Igboland. Especially in Anambra and Imo states. It was cooked well before amalgamation and so was moi-moi (mai-mai) in certain parts of Igboland.

Not to mention that you’ve made blatantly erroneous statements i.e. that Igbos learned yam porridge from the Yoruba asaro. Never mind the fact that yam’s the traditional staple crop of Igboland.

I still await your answer on whether you think ofe achara with okazi and ogbaloti egusi is the Yoruba style that Igbos copied when you were growing up. You’ve conveniently skated over that.

baby124:
Akara and Asaro are there as well. So what’s your point? This is a breakdown of food eaten in igboland doesn’t mean it’s all Igbo food. Or you don’t know yam pottage is Asaro. Even moi moi is there but it’s called cow pea pudding.

I think the key point lies in the fact that the book was called traditional Igbo food system. Key in the word traditional.

Igbo yam pottage and Yoruba asaro aren’t the same. I hope you know. Moi moi was only rendered as “cow pea pudding” in English.

Your ignorance is starting to grate. I don’t think I’ve ever seen anyone on here so wilfully naive of a particular element of someone else’s culture. You’re either taking the piss or genuinely slow. Either way you need to do better.

Get over your superiority attitude and accept that both tribes share certain words and foods in common because we share the same root.

I’ll leave these out here for any more Yoruba people who want to be ignorant about traditional food systems they know absolutely nothing about.

cc. baby124, aljharem.

Egusi, okazi, achara. Abacha na akidi. Fio-fio. Achi ede. These foods being listed on a traditional food listing done in the most rural parts of Igboland means nothing to either of you. All these foods were copied by awon Ogbomosho circa. 2005. That right?

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ariesbull:
We have many terms for beans specie...akidi is the beans ...the big one is agwa
...so Igbo were never eating beans right ?

A lot of Yoruba people conveniently forget there’s states in Igboland other than Imo. Beans/legumes aren’t as characteristic as they are upland. They’re more into ugba.

marvinsync:
again , nonsense .

scientists do not "know" what causes sexual orientation ( like homosexuality) but they have "theories" that it is a complex interplay of genetic ,hormonal and environmental interplay


so the key word there is "theory"


listen the fact that homosexuality is illegal here has nothing to do with right or wrong it's simply that it isn't accepted here by the majority , when all these countries that legalised gay they had poll to vote and the majority decided if they want it legal or not , so there isn't any right or wrong here it's all about the majority and what they want and 95% of Nigerians don't want homosexuality , it's our country we decide what goes and stays

It’s not a matter of want where inborn tendencies are concerned.

kingthreat:
How are you more intelligent than me? For you to associate men fûcking each other via the añus means your brains arent using their grey matter.

Who told you I’m queer in the first place?

kingthreat:
Sexuality is a choice you retardéd cumdrinker. No one is born gay. I wish your father was born gay, i wont have to reply your trash.

No wonder Nigeria’s the world’s poorest country. Don’t curse people much more intelligent than you.

marvinsync:
nonsense , because white people told u so that means it correct abi

gay like every other abnormality has causes , when the causes is eventually found we would rid Nigeria of this sh!t till then all gays should compress their sh!t till they die

A cause that’s deeply rooted in heriditary. It’s nothing more than a form of degeneracy.

WetinConsignMe:
As if he sat down one day and decided to be gay - his family begged him to reconsider, to change his decision!

SEXUALITY

Romantic Orientation- Who you are romantically attracted to meaning wanting to be in a romantic relationship with and is unrelated to sexual attraction.

Sexual Orientation- Who you are sexually attracted to meaning who you get turned on by or who you would want to engage in sexual behaviors with.


*note all listed below are applicable also to romantic orientations. These take the prefix of the word and the ending -romantic, i.e. heteroromantic, panromantic, aromantic.


Heterosexual- The attraction to a gender different from their own (commonly used to describe someone who is gender binary [female or male] attracted to the other binary gender).

Homosexual- The attraction to a gender the same as their own (commonly used to describe someone who is gender binary [female or male] attracted to the same binary gender).  Sometimess referred to as gay.

Sapiosexual - A sapiosexual is someone who is turned on and attracted to intelligence, or someone’s mind before their appearance.

Lesbian- Women who are attracted only to other women

Bisexual- When you are attracted to two or more genders.  This term is generally used to describe being attracted to men and women, but can apply to being attracted to any two or more genders. Note that you do not have to be equally attracted to each gender.

Pansexual- When you are attracted to all genders and/or do not concern gender when you are attracted towards someone

Bicurious- People who are open to experiment with genders that are not only their own, but do not know if they are open to forming any sort of relationship with multiple genders.

Polysexual- When you are attracted to many genders

Monosexual- Being attracted to only one gender

Allosexual- When you are not asexual (attracted to at least one gender)

Androsexual- Being attracted to masculine gender presentation

Gynosexual- Being attracted to feminine gender presentation

Questioning- People who are debating their own sexuality/gender

Asexual- Not experiencing sexual attraction (note that you can also be aromantic and you do not necessarily have to be asexual and aromantic at the same time).  Sometimes the term, ace, is used to describe asexuals.

Demisexual- When you only experience sexual attraction after forming a strong emotional bond first or a romantic bond

Grey Asexual- When you only experience attraction rarely, on a very low scale, or only under certain circumstances

Perioriented- When your sexual and romantic orientation targets the same gender (for example being heteromantic and heterosexual or being biromantic and bisexual)

Varioriented- When your sexual and romantic orientations do not target the same set of genders (for example being heteromantic and bisexual or being homoromantic and pansexual)

Heteronormative- The belief that hetersexuality is the norm and that sex, gender, sexuality, and gender roles all align

Erasure- Ignoring the existance of genders and sexualities in the middle of the spectrum

Cisgender - a person whose sense of personal identity and gender corresponds with their birth sex.

Cishet- Someone who is both cisgendered and heterosexual.  This is sometimes used as a slur.

Polyamorous- An umbrella term referring to people who have or are open to have consensually have relationships with multiple people at the same time

Monoamorous- People who have or or open to have relationships with only one other person at a time.  The term, monogamous, is also sometimes used

Queer- A reclaimed slur for anybody in the LGBT+ community or who do not identify as cisgender and/or hetersexual/heteromantic

Ally- A supporter of the LGBT+ community that does not identify as LGBT+

GENDER & SEX

Sex- Your assigned gender at birth and/or the gender of your reproductive organs

Gender- Where you feel that you personally fall on the spectrum between male and female. Commonly people identify as male or female, but some fall in the middle or move throughout the spectrum.

Cisgender- When you identify with the gender you were assigned at birth

Transgender- When you identify with a gender different than that you were assigned at birth

Transsexual- When you have had Gender Reassignment Surgery (GRS) to change the sexual organs you were born with to that of a different gender.

Male to Female (MtF)- When somebody that is assigned as a male at birth identifies as a female

Female to Male (FtM)- When somebody that is assigned as a female at birth identifies as a  male

Genderfluid- Moving between genders or having a fluctuating gender identity

Agender- Not identifying with any gender. Sometimes referred to as being genderless orgendervoid

Bigender-  Identifying as two genders, commonly (but not exclusively) male and female.  Sometimes you feel like both genders at the same time and sometimes you fluctuate.

Polygender- When you identify with multiple genders at once.  Sometimes referred to asmultigender.

Neutrois- When you identify as agender, neither male nor female, and/or genderless

Gender Apathetic- When you really do not identify nor care about any particular gender. You are fine passing off as whatever and you really do not have an opinion towards your own gender.

Androgyne- This term overlaps a lot between gender identification and presentation.  It can be used to describe others and as an identification. This term is used to describe people who are neither male nor female or are both male and female.  Basically anyone who does not fit into a binary gender category.

Intergender- Somebody who's gender is somewhere between male and female

Demigender- When you feel as if you are one part a defined gender and one or more parts an undefined gender.  Terms can include demigirl, demiboy, demiagender, ect.

Greygender- Somebody with a weak gender identification of themselves

Aporagender- Somebody with a strong gender identification of themselves that is non-binary

Maverique- A non-binary gender that exists outside of the orthodox social bounds of gender

Novigender- A gender that is super complex and impossible to describe in a single term

Designated gender- A gender assigned at birth based on an individuals sex and/or what gender society percieves a person to be

Transitioning- The process of using medical means to change your sex

Intersex- A biological difference in sex that is when people are born with genitals, gonads, and/or chromosomes that do not match up exactly with male or female.  Intersex individuals can have any romantic/sexual orientation and can have any gender identification.  Intersex individuals are about as common as redheads.

Dyadic- Someone who is not intersex and when their gentinals, gonads, and chromosomes can all match into either a male or female category

Trans Woman- Someone who is assigned as a male at birth, but identifies as a woman

Trans Man- Someone who is assigned as a female at birth, but identifies as a man

Trans Feminine- Someone who identifies as feminine, but identifies as neither a man nor a woman.  They must also be assigned male at birth.

Trans Masculine- Someone who identifies as masculine, but identifies as neither a man nor a woman.  They must also be assigned female at birth.

Social Dysphoria- Discomfort experienced when acting in ways socially different than your gender or being addressed in ways different to your gender

Body Dysphoria- Discomfort experienced because of the difference between gender and your sex, role, or gender expression

Butch- A term used to describe someone who's gender expression is more masculine than feminine.  This is commonly used in describing women or lesbians.

Femme (Fem)- A term used to describe someone who's gender expression is more feminine than masculine.  This is commonly used in describing women or lesbians.

Binarism- Putting gender strictly into two categories (male and female) and refusing to acknowledge genders outside of male and female.

With the exception of the first listing or two that list is nonsense. Even core westerners complain about that sort of thing going too far.

baby124:
Hahahahaha. You must be laughing at yourself.

No. You need to drop the superiority attitude and learn that Igbo and Yoruba share words and foods in common because they share the same root. Mai-mai and egwusi might’ve been rendered as moin-moin and egusi to the rest of Nigeria but these things are deeper rooted in Igboland than they are in the SW.

I stopped taking you seriously the moment you in started making openly erroneous comments as in claiming ogbono’s not an Igbo name or that there was nothing like Igbo egusi when you were growing up but you’ll learn.

I’ll say it again. Is there a Yoruba equivalent for ogbaloti/akpuruakpu egusi with achara and ukazi greens? Is that the Yoruba style of melon soup that Igbos copied some time in the 90s?

scholes0:
Borro borro ko.... Yoruboids bound Igbos directly or indirectly on two sides, while Yorubas don't share border with any known igboid peoples.

Who is borrowing what?

Do you even know that conc Nsukka Igbo might contain up to 15% Yoruba-ish words?

This actually sounds like something to spin out a little further. You got an idea of what Yoruboid words are infused into Nsukka Igbo?