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RedboneSmith:
Burna Boy is Abua? I always thought he was Ekpeye.

Never actually heard of Abua until now. Allied to Edo, Ijo or Igbo?

bigfrancis21:
Ijebu Igbos have Igbo ancestry in them!

This Yoruba daughter of Ijebu Igbo took a DNA test to determine how much percentage Yoruba she is and received the following shocking news of her life!



This 'Yoruba' girl is actually more of Igbo in her genetic make-up despite being from Ijebu-Igbo (mere 25% yoruba gene in her), and this might be the case applicable to many Ijebu-Igbos today.

I thought as much.

Who needs a CV/any other written work edited and proof-read? I’ll be doing them this week and next.

Revolva:
That very true ...our igala and ibaji igala are the same but lemme tell you even the ibajis are from idah so wat up any igala that find him self outside Kogi state is from idah and is free to claim idah as origin

Again igala language is a yorubaiod language in general mean you can find traces of Yoruba language
in it ..

Weda you speak ibaji dialect or if u dialect or idah and ankpa dialect

Those igalas regarding ibajis as less igalas are just very myopic now tell me must evey language have the same tonation ...i hate it when they say that I even like ibajis sense of igala than other part of igalas

@mcsterling pls abeg Bros yes you are not igbos but you are from Kogi state by origin ok don't say you are not Kogi ok do you think any Anambra man will consider you as an indigene despite you find yourself there by settlement decades over decades

LOL.

Tamarapetty:
Oga This man is not a woman! She is a MAN!!

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Valerie47:
The people who think Lionheart is overrated are just angry that its igbo themed.

85% of Nollywood films are Igbo-themed though aren’t they.

Lionheart wasn’t all that (Nkem Owoh’s performances aside).

RedboneSmith:
To just take one of the many inaccuracies riddling this post, no European visited any part of the west coast of Africa in the 14th century, let alone Ijebuland.

What’s your verdict on the opinion that Ijebus aren’t really Yoruba in the first place?

absoluteSuccess:
If the digging fetch you the post as worthy of reckoning to further your claims, it behooves on you to quote the source and not act as if it turn up from an anonymous well, cleverness is not wisdom. If Olaochi did not assume you wrote that by yourself, would you have put the link?



How does the bolded speaks for your conviction? If the Yoruba have two names for one object, does that translate to making a foreign word Yoruba by breaking the word into syllables? I don't understand your logic.

If I say the Yoruba borrowed Oyinbo from Yevo, what if I'm wrong? What if the word Yevo is just the word with the easier interpretation than Oyinbo to me studying the word countless years after it was coined? Hello, I can make mistake, so stop the clever game.

Recently, I stumbled on a phenomena by accident on the Egun/Yoruba word that have baffled me a great deal, what the Yoruba called epon (scrotum) the egun called it "atoquin". Yoruba word for sperm is 'ato' ultimately from ito, that the Egun call 'adido'.

Meanwhile, quin (pouch) is from okun, seed. From this, the word 'atoquin' simply means 'sperm pouch' in Egun, an amalgam of Yoruba and Egun word. I am able to interpret this being a person of both heritage, but the coinage is beyond anyone of both divides.

So in a case like this, who borrow from who? Both have their words, but employ other related terms in their sphere of influence for intellectual purposes. The Yoruba have Oyinbo, just as the Egun have Yevo. If Igbo has Oyibo, its none of my business.

Stop snooping around, make your valid and independent conclusions.

“I got that digging around on Nairaland” was part of my original post. You can hide your illiteracy under the thin veil of pseudo-intellectualism but my point’s there for any non-biased reader,

Probz:
No, I don't. I've openly acknowledged having copied this theory from yet another of Nairaland's oyibo vs. oyinbo debates.

Now, the Yoruba have penchant for creating alternative words to convey their ideas beyond reasonable doubt. In respect to 'Oyinbo', it simply means 'oyin bo', which means 'honey-deficient' or 'honey peeled off'. Yoruba equates Oyin with Adun. As a resault of this, we therefore have the phrase 'Oyinladun'. 'Adu' (Odu) is a variant of Adun (Odun). The Yoruba of old equate the black melanin with honey. They thus have the idea of 'sexual chocolate' before our time. Oyinbo thus mean 'drilled of honey', in Yoruba. Is all of this possible within Yoruba thought system? A Yoruba proverb to that effect says 'irini si nisoni lojo' meaning: 'appearance will tell what you are described as'


I also got that post from the OP. In short, oyinbo is a Dahomey/Benin-derived words with a Yoruba-attached meaning. Assuming native honey is dark as melanin and melanin's strongly associated with honey to the ancient Yoruba, I can get behind the oyinbo remix but notice that this dude's stated that "the Yoruba have penchant for creating alternative words to convey their ideas beyond reasonable doubt." In other words, the Yoruba ascribe meaning to foreign concepts and ideas by breaking them down into syllables. It's not mad to think they could've also done this with the Igbo oyibo and corrupted it to oyinbo (two syllables joined together as a single word/idea). The word still doesn't originate with them though. That's the bottom line.

https://www.nairaland.com/2191374/etymology-word-oyinbo

That's the thread I got all this info from, after much digging around.

cc. absoluteSuccess

absoluteSuccess:
"I have the intention of putting this across a long while ago, I believe now is the time. So how did the word Oyinbo crept up in Yoruba lexicon? This piece might help. The Yoruba has been familiar with different races from the onset of time. The Yoruba were a race of diverse races at one point in their history. To the Yoruba ancestors, the white were not always "Oyinbo", the most tenable word for a white person with the ancient Yoruba is Ofun.

Originally however, the parent word for 'Oyinbo' may have come from the Fon kingdom of Dahomey, who contacted the white folks first after the long seperation from that race. The Fon for a white man is 'Yevo'. This word is derived from 'Oye' and 'Ovo', meaning, "of different shade".

To the Fon, mankind is called Gbetor, meaning 'father of life', now the word in full is a phrase, 'Gbetor-yenor' meaning, 'a shadow (or replica) of the father of life'. That establishes 'ye' as in 'yes' as shade or shadow in that language. For instance, Yesehmeh in that language stands for 'shade's transit point'. Again, racial shade is known to this people.

To the ancient Yoruba, white- man is 'e fun', we still say it in Yoruba language as 'Oyinbo-alawo-funfun'. That's a long-tail-expression however. Some Yoruba ancestors were white-skinned. It shows in the way Yoruba peoples named them afterwards based on their colour.

For instance, the word Efunyela simply means "white skin is befitting to Ela". The Yoruba perception of their ancestors can also be observed in the way Yoruba sees the albino. They says, owo koko lafii wogi, owo Orisha lafii wo afin. Afin are spotted with Orisha, who are Yoruba ancestors.

The Yoruba equally have black heros. One of the black hero in annal of Yoruba history was Odu. And in that regards is the folksong, "eye melo t'olongo wale?"...'Okan Dudu-Aro, Okan Sese Osun'. Hope you don't take the nursery rhyme as worthless. 'Duduaro' in another way round is 'Odunaro' a Yoruba surname spotting with a black thinker in annals of Yoruba history.

"Sese Osun" is also a historical phrase, we speak of Osun as "Osun-se-ngese, Olooya 'yun" and also 'etu obeje elese osun', a totem of mother Osun, the matriarch of Yoruba race. Osun was a black beauty of Yoruba history, hence it is said, 'Odu eleyinju ege'. Osun is o su, that is of dark shade. Another way of putting it clearer is O du."

This guy, I really don't know what's wrong with you. I believe you are too careful to put my mention after cropping up my post to create your medley. I just discovered this post yesterday.

No wahala, na you sabi.

“I got that digging around on Nairaland.”

And never for a minute did I pass it off as my own. Boy, either read the whole post or don’t comment.

Good old Konquest. Always full of spirit and exuberance aren’t you. Borderline hypomanic.

“Which addict.”

Addiction to a forum full of people deficient in basic grammar.

lx3as:
A general Yoruba name just like Mosebolatan; though very common among Ekitis and Ijesas, etc.

I thought so.

lx3as:
Ekiti, Central Yoruba


Akinlua. - Akinleye

Adesua. - Adeseye

Adelua - Adeleye

Adeluyi. - Adeniyi

Akinluyi. - Akinniyi

Others are:
Ademiluyi, Oguntuyi, Ogunluyi, Ademiluyi, Olumilua, funmiluyi, Adesuyi, etc. Though they bear both forms.

Uyi = Iyi, Ua = Eye etc.

Then you have '... en' ending some Ijebu's names.
In Ijebu also, Ogunleye becomes Ogunnewe or Ogunneye; Adeleye becomes Adeneye, etc.

Adeleye = Adelua = Adeneye = Adekeye (Igbomina, sometimes for Adesua or Adeseye).

What about Monisola?

Bumped. Who’s having elemi meje this Christmas?

lawani:
obi means parent in standard yoruba

cc. 9jakool

Really?

ewa26:
tnx dear, what’s the purpose of wearing shimi underneath the wrapper for men, what colours do they wear and how common is it ?

You know why. To help the outer fabric hang better/stop sweat coming onto the main layer.

It’s mostly marketed as women’s clothing but men who wear wrapper sometimes wear half-shimi but only rarely. Mostly older men. Black with no lace is the standard style for men who choose to wear it. Sometimes white. It’s not a piece of underwear that’s worn nearly enough by even women to see it in a fashionable sense in 2019. They’re barely ever worn these days.

lawani:
obi means parent in yoruba but I am not saying it is thesame as the anioma word but it sounds alike

All these languages share a similar root so I’m not surprised.

I made a thread exploring the link between Obi and Edo and Igbo kinship titles but this is the first I’m hearing about it being used in Yoruba also. You sure Obi’s not only used in a conc. Ekiti dialect?

pazienza:
You are just looking for attention.

You’re a fervently nationalistic idiot. Keep out of my threads going forward.

Like it or not it’s a question that’s up for debate where kinship titles are concerned.

ewa26:
pls, is it true that elder igbo men occasionally wear half shimi underneath their wrapper?

Very rarely.

scholes0:
How has it been established?

Hausas - 1
Yorubas - 2
Igbos - 3
Fulanis - 4

Ever since it’s been known that Hausa and Fulani were merged together at the last official census. That’s not an esoteric truth either, it’s for show to any unbiased observer. Hausas on their own don’t average more than 30 million.

As far as the online realm goes this issue might as well be settled on this very thread. What’s the origin of the title Obi - Edo or Igbo?

danye8:
calling other people's dialect intelligible,calling some ethnic groups/tribe "TRUE" and others "false" is disrespectful.i am an enuani man from anioma part of delta state,my language is igboid doesn't make it igbo.ENUANI is my languge and ethnicity,ANIOMA is my land and that should be respected.and i also admit i share linguistic similarity with the igbos but i am not igbo first,i am ENUANI first.period

Enuani’s a bona-fide Igbo dialect. That’s not something that’s up for discussion.

igbodefender:
You cannot confidently talk about Igbo influence in the Americas without referencing this book: History Of The Igbo World. You can buy it here with one click: https://www.amazon.com/History-Igbo-World-Ancient-Civilization-ebook/dp/B01K4AIUO8

Reading the book should make you a GREAT authority on the subject.

I’ve already got a hunch about what that book’s about.

You should be banned from stepping foot in the niche again for whipping up that abomination.

bigfrancis21:
1000 likes for this. I don't think the name, 'ugbodu' is of Yoruba origin. I've seen people try to desperately assign 'Yoruba' meanings to the name when the name has just as many meanings in Igbo.

Second, I agree that the list of past kings in Ugbodu is obviously manipulated - it was not that long ago. The Olukwumi speakers in Delta state arrived no earlier than the early to mid 1800s, definitely no earlier than the 1800s, which explains why the language survived in bits till today. Save for westernization and the shift to English language, within two generations or three from the 1960s, the Olukwumis (Ilukwobis) may have completely assimilated.

Ugbodo’s a bona-fide Igbo name. Nearly shares the same root as Ogwu-Ogun, Egwu and Ekiti/etiti. Whatever Yoruba equivalent exists can be broken down further in Igbo in a simpler form.

cc. Redbonesmith, bigfrancis21

Zionista:
Going by the comments here, Nigerians do not need help. They prefer dying. Lol


"Eat breakfast like a king, eat lunch like a prince and eat dinner like a pauper"

Nice one there....

Meanwhile, let me whet your appetite for a royal breakfast.

Zionista:
Going by the comments here, Nigerians do not need help. They prefer dying. Lol


"Eat breakfast like a king, eat lunch like a prince and eat dinner like a pauper"

Nice one there....

Meanwhile, let me whet your appetite for a royal breakfast.

All got to die at some point. Eating after 6pm isn’t the worst thing someone can do.