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ikaboy:Nairaland has finally gone rogue but I hope they won't start banning and closing threads when others retaliate. They even advised the misguided op to adjust the topic so their intention wouldn't appear so glaring. They should continue but we are watching. |
Atouke:Tinubu is in big trouble already, no more bullion vans ![]() |
Atouke:This news is like music to my ears, thank God that the only SE state in that blacklisted category is Abia that has been perennially mismanaged, AMCON should take over its management already alongside Lagos and the rest ![]() |
Sonoyom:Lolz, are you shocked that Lagos is last on the table and first to be taken over AMCON despite having a disproportionate part of Nigeria's wealth domiciled there?! That's the effect of having a drug Lord who moves its revenue in bullion vans controlling its affairs. Isn't Lagos supposed to be so rich to the point of lending money to other states yet they've embezzled everything until it went bankrupt. SMH!! |
agabusta:You're still missing the point. The op asked if Abuja can survive without federal government money. Ancient empires like that of Rome or Britain relied on resources coming from all the areas under its control which is similar to what Abuja is enjoying currently. However, if every part of Nigeria, especially South gains independence, Abuja will start declining and may eventually die off except the North decides to make it its capital, but even at that, it will never be like it was before. When Roman and British empires were in existence, Rome and London used to be the world's most famous cities but today they are living on past glory. |
kingreign:Lolz, Abuja does not have up to 2% of the markets or commercial activity that goes on in states like Abia and Anambra, in addition to that, these states are relatively industrialized, with rich human resources and have other sectors they traditionally earn money from. Likewise, they've infrastructure and amenities they can easily manage and build on. Now contrast that with Abuja with low industrial base, low or non existent commercial value natural resources, low human resources etc. yet it has huge infrastructure and amenities that will require huge resources to manage and build on, so you see why it would collapse in no time? |
naija4life247:You guys are allowing your emotions to get the better of you. Will Kano survive? The answer is absolute yes! Will Kaduna survive? Yes! This is because these cities/states grew up based on its strength and capacity. They have solid foundations but in the case of Abuja, it was created out of a jungle and over time, nothing much was done to make it self sustaining whether in the area of industry, tourism, small and medium scale enterprises or services. It is just existing based on the earnings of the government offices, ministries, politicians and corruption, and all these people are rent seekers waiting for oil money to be disbursed to them! Once its artificial and external source of income is cut off, the city will gradually decline and decay. |
Simplyleo:You see how you fail exam? Jumping into conclusion without even understanding the question you were asked! Abia state is one of the elite states that will easily survive on its own. In fact, allowing Abia state to control its resources will automatically make them rich because they have oil resources and human resources, two vital criteria for greatness! Same applies to Imo as well as Enugu and Ebonyi in varying degrees. Now, when it comes to Abuja, we are talking about a city that is built up without any foundation to support it. Without oil money flowing in the city, all those high rises and mansions will start decaying and people will start leaving in droves. Within a decade, it will collape. Do you now understand or you still need more enlightenment?? |
spiritmasquerad:What sort of JAMB question is this? Didn't you see the name of the writer so you can search for him and ask him whatever question you think you have or did I tell I wrote it myself? |
Abuja does not have a soul, it can't survive without oil resources from the South. |
A whole deputy governor's office was so brazenly burgled into Lol, wetin person no go hear for obodo Nigger-area ![]() |
Muna4real:Oh really We need to be educating the indomie generation that has been brainwashed by evil minded Nigerians. |
helinues:Who is attaching by force to who? Did you even read that informative piece or you lack the ability to read and comprehend? Ewedung people will always want to involve themselves on any Igbo affair. SMH! |
chrisxxx:Lol, which Black ethnicity is superior to the world acclaimed Igbo race in Africa not to talk of Nigeria. If you're not unfortunate, as you claim not to be Igbo then what brought you here? Did anyone mention your name or whatever village you claim to come from? Igbos are too big and prosperous to be distracted by inconsequential people. |
Tranquill:Are you sure you're normal at all? You're not Igbo yet you rush in here to start uttering gibberish. What has the nonsense you wrote got to do with anything? |
chrisxxx:Who is this attention seeker? My friend, get out of here because Igbos don't care who you are or what you represent. |
BIGGESThead6:Lol, this doesn't mean anything because Igbos in areas like Agoo Palace, Festac, Lekki etc. can also decide that they don't want Yoruba tenants. What will anyone be looking for in those dingy areas like Fadeyi, Onipanu, Mushin etc. that are largely slums? Hahaha, I laugh on all those wishing harm on law abiding citizens because Igbos have equal representation in terms of population and would match it man to man with anyone that tries nonsense. It can only end up in MAD i.e. mutually assured destruction! |
cocolacec:Sure, the country should be disolved amicably, that has been my wish but for someone to create a thread and be cowardly wishing evil on an entire people is something that shouldn't be allowed on a platform such as nairaland except the site has gone rogue. All these open bias and sentimentalism is so primitive and disgusting. Lalasticala, Mynd44 your attention is needed here. |
celinajumbo11:Wow, such a thrilling masterpiece! The terrorist of Daura and his goons don buy market for Reno hand. Reno 100 vs Terrorist of Daura 0 ![]() |
Hmnnn. I don't just understand, are we the Aborigines of Nigeria as well as the international community waiting for when these terrorists and their supporters in high places start moving from house to house massacring people before something is done to stop them?! This country is certainly heading towards a disastrous end. |
While most of the Asaba Igbos were matured and wise enough to understand the shenanigans of our enemies, and thus stood their ground by embracing their heritage, a few others in the Niger Delta couldn't rise above the minority status that was tactically imposed on them and are now suffering from a self inflicted identity crises. |
chrisblack:You're just busy barking without even reading to understand. Nigeria just emerged from a civil war, the bank accounts of an entire section of the country was confiscated and rendered useless. Only for the country to start an Indignization policy. Why should such critical policy be implemented at that time if there wasn't an ulterior motive behind it? If tables were to be turned, and your region happens to be at the receiving end, will you still be justifying it?? Next time, before you get yourself involved in any issue, try to understand the details before spewing your incoherent gibberish. Hypocrites!! |
Igbochief001:A few of them actually did and still do, people like Philip Asiodu and Alabi Isama... Although, majority of them are realigning with the Igbo nation. |
Madibahisback:Psychos are free to roam about, and even take up a moniker that potrays them to be from South Africa even when they are from the waste. A sign of cowardice. |
If this xenophobic thread is not closed and the op banned for life, then nairaland will ultimately be the vehicle that will scatter Nigeria. |
The Igbo nation will surely rise again and no matter how much the evil system propagated by the feudal rulers try to hold us down, we will surely overcome all their shenanigans and reclaim our place as a great and united black race of progressive people. |
Note: A must read for every Igbo living. THE IGBO DELTA STORY 'A bigger problem before the millennia Igbo is its failure to read her own history.' -MOB According to Dennis Osadebey in the book, Building A Nation, Nnebisi was the son of an Nteje woman, Diaba, who had gotten pregnant for an Igala man, Ojobo. Nnebisi grew up in Nteje thinking he was of the kindred, but one day, after a quarrel, he was told that his father was not from there, so he could not take part in land sharing. He thus left Nteje with his followers, and followed a route which brought him to the great river. If you look at a map of those areas, it is quite easy to trace the route taken by Nnebisi, which must hae taken him through Nsugbe, and then along the Anambra River (Ọma Mbala), and then to the point where the Anambra River joins the Niger River. That precise point where the Anambra River joins the Niger River, is coincidentally, the precise point where you can take an eight minute boat ride and land at Cable Point in Asaba. Nnebisi and his people crossed, landed at Ikpele Nmili and decided to plant their crops there for the year. A year later, after a great harvest was (of course the area is rich in alluvial soils brought from upstream by the river), they decided to settle there. Nnebisi called the place Ani Ahaba (We have settled in this land), and four hundred years later, some white chap hearing the name that the natives called their land, wrote Asaba in his map, and not Ahaba. That man was Carlo Zappa, an Italian priest who was appointed Prefect of the Upper Niger by the Catholic Church. Zappa spent a lot of time converting the natives in both Asaba and Onitsha, and all the way to Ojoto, East of the Niger, and Agbor, West of the Niger. A look through Catholic records during the Ekumeku resistance will show that at the turn of the century, most of the Catholic priests in what is now the Diocese of Issele Uku in Delta State, came from the Onitsha area, as they were all under the same ecclesiastical province. A look at the roll call of the dead from the Aba Women's affair of 1929, shows that the wife of the Sanitary headman in Opobo was from Asaba, which kind of tells you the direction in which people went before the split of Southern Nigeria into East and West in 1954. Up until that point in 1954, many from the Igbo speaking areas just west of the Niger River, found it easier to cross the river to do their business. And why not? The distance between Asaba and Owerri is just 102km. Asaba to Enugu is 125km, while Asaba to Umuahia is 142km. All of these places are closer to Asaba than Warri, which in modern Nigerian geopolitics is in the same state as Asaba. Warri is 176km from Asaba. The Asaba man, when he arrives in either of Enugu, Owerri or Umuahia, speaks the same language as the people in those places, barring the normal dialectal differences that occur in languages that are spread over large geographical areas. This same Asaba man, would arrive in Warri, and would be at a complete loss as to what the native in Warri is saying… Referring back to Dennis Osadebe, any young Anioma person who wants to learn his history should find Osadebe's book, Building A Nation, and read it. Osadebe understood where he was coming from, and was unequivocal about it. Thus it was that he joined first the Asaba Union, then by sheer force of will helped to coalese it into the Western Ibo Union, and then by 1939, he was the General Secretary of the Ibo Union. He joined OBN Eluwa on his trip around both Eastern and Western Igboland between 1947 and 1953, a trip which created the Igbo identity that we know today (until 1966) at least. Osadebe was at the forefront of agitation to remove the Asaba Division from the Benin Province to which it had been joined in 1931 and either rejoin it to the Onitsha Province where it had been prior, or create a province of its own. Of course that agitation fell flat in 1954 once the Southern Region was split into East and West, but being a pragmatic fellow, Osadebe teamed up with his Benin and Delta Division neighbours to campaign for the creation of the Midwest Region. This campaign succeeded in 1963 with Osadebe becoming premier of the region. Even at that, Osadebe maintained his close relations with his kin from across the river. When war broke out four years later, more than any other, Osadebe's people, from Asaba, bore the biggest blow. This was where things began to take a negative turn for the Midwestern Igbo identity. In 1964, a brilliant and ambitious 30-year old from Asaba joined the public service. Phillip Asiodu, an Oxford graduate who spoke Yoruba as a first languge, rose very fast. By mid-1966 as #Nigeria was melting down around everyone, Asiodu was already a Permanent Secretary in the federal civil service. Unfortunately, he faced the same mistrust that every Midwest Igbo faced in Nigeria of the time: where did his loyalties lie? He chose #Nigeria, and as tends to be the case with people who have to prove themselves, showed his loyalty to Nigeria only too well. The war had a personal effect on Asiodu as his brother Sidney, a well known prize winning athlete, was killed during the Asaba Massacre in 1967. But Asiodu kept his head down, and remained firmly Nigerian, and non-Igbo. That was the birth of the split in identity. A people defeated in war have a tendency to bow their heads. Those who can, reject being members of that defeated group. So it is no surprise that those Igbos who could (borderlands) decided that they no longer wanted to be Igbo. Midwest Igbos created a new identity to the extent that the town of Igbo Akiri changed its name to Igbanke. Its most prominent son, Samuel Chiedu Osaigbovo Ogbemudia, who along with Alexander Madiebo narrowly escaped death in the July 1966 coup, dropped "Chiedu" from his name. To be honest, I cannot hold people responsible for such behaviours. The city of Gdansk in Poland was once called Danzig, and it was in Germany. Going back to Dennis Osadebe, after the war, some prominent Igbos including Osadebe banded together to try and resurrect the Igbo Progressive Union which had been proscribed by Aguiyi-Ironsi in 1966. So they formed the Igbo National Assembly whose stated goal was to unify Igbos under a common umbrella body. In no time, the INA was banned by @NigeriaGov, but by 1976, shortly after the murder of Murtala Mohammed, they tried again. This time, went the route of a socio-cultural organisation. Thus Ohaneze Ndị Igbo was born, and one of the original signatories to the Ohaneze charter was Dennis Osadebe. Along with Ben Nwabueze, and a few others whose names I don't recall. Osadebe knew that the place of the Midwestern Igbo in #Nigeria's geopolitics would always be with his kin from across the Niger, and he always acted accordingly. Osadebe was the one who coined the term Anioma, as the entry region of the Midwestern Igbos into Ohaneze. Some of these things are simple to check out, for example, the expression "Anioma" does not appear in any document predating 1975. The funny thing is that by 1992, even Asiodu who was perhaps most directly responsible for the identity crisis facing his people, had come around. In 1992, along with some notable people from Anioma, Asiodu wrote a letter to IBB asking him to take Anioma out of Delta state, excise Onitsha and Atani from Anambra state, and create an Anioma state which would have been a part of what is now the South-East geopolitical zone. The signatories to that letter, dated 15/6/92 were as follows: Nnamdi Azikiwe, Owelle Onicha; Dennis Osadebe, Ojiba Ahaba; Phllip Asiodu, Izoma Ahaba; Anthony Modebe, Ogene Onicha; Ben Nwabueze (from Atani in Anambra); Chukwuma Ijomah (from Aboh in Delta); and Ukpabi Asika. BIC Ijomah died just over a month ago, so of all the sages who signed that letter, only Phillip Asiodu is still with us, and for whatever reason, IBB did not act on the letter. What is the lesson from Chief Asiodu's apparent turnaround? Once your name is Emeka, Nigeria will eventually happen to you. This is what people like Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala understand. This is what people like Austin Okocha understand. This is what great men like Osadebe, Ijomah, Achuzia, and finally Asiodu, understood. The truth is that based on our history, the Anioma man never saw the Niger River as a barrier. As a matter of fact, just read Chinua Achebe's Chike And The River, and you'll get a sense of how people used to cris-cross the river at that salient point before the bridge was built. The remnants are still there today. Cable Point projects into the river, it is clearly an old market, and Onitsha Marine also projects into the river. That is the original location of the famous Onitsha Market. Has any one from Onitsha ever stopped to ask himself why the Basilica of Holy Trinity was built basically a few metres away from the river at Onitsha Marine? Cross the river to Asaba and St. Joseph's Catholic Church is in an almost identical position. Both churches were built about the same time, commissioned by the same man, Carlo Zappa. How else do you explain that the dialect of Igbo spoken in Asaba, and that spoken in Onitsha, are the same language? In the end, the Anioma man, because Biafra lost a war 50 years ago, may deny his identity all he wants, but it will not change the fact - in the Byzantine politics of Nigeria, the day will come when you will be told who you are. It's the one thing Nigeria never fails at. Once your name is Emeka, or Chike, or Nnamdi, or Uju, or Chukwuma, or Obi, or Ogechukwu, or Ekwi, or Azuka, or Ike, or Nonso, or Ifeanyi, or indeed Cheta, the day will come, when Nigeria will tell you who you are. Don't be caught flat footed. For the Igbos from the East, never forget some facts - the most effective Biafran diplomat during the war was Raphael Uwechue, Oguluzeme Ogwashi-Uku. The majority of the weapons that were supplied to Biafra came from France, and it was his efforts. Almost all of the CARITAS flights that saved starving Biafran children, had his fingerprints on them. Plus the fact that Emeka Ojukwu, Ikemba Nnewi got out of Biafra in the end and spent 12 years in exile in a French speaking country, was due to his diplomatic efforts. Raphael Chukwu Uwechue was also President-General of Ohaneze Ndị Igbo for four years. Ndị Anioma, that was your son. Also, Igbos from the East, never forget that the most successful commander of Biafran forces during the war was Joseph Achuzia, Ikemba Ahaba. From 4 October 1967 to 12 October 1967, he prevented Nigerian forces from successfully crossing the Niger River. The Nigerians could only establish a bridgehead at Onitsha Marine before they were beaten back by Achuzia. This defeat was one of the things that led to the massacre of his kinsmen in Asaba on 7 October 1967. On 31 March 1968, Achuzia directed Jona Uchendu's company of about 700 men in what became Biafra's most spectacular success of the war, the Abagana Ambush. In that event, 700 Biafran men defeated a Nigerian force of 6000 men. Only 100 Nigerian soldiers, including Murtala Mohammed survived. It was after that action that Murtala did not take part in the war again. Achuzia who died two years ago, was also an Anioma son. Culled from @Chxta Cheta Nwanze |
What a pathetic country called Nigeria. So far Northern Nigeria, particularly NW and NE are part of this country, we will continue to sink down the abyss. Eastern Nigeria all the way to the middle belt and NE has no rail connection at the moment. When these idiats were asked why it was so, they claimed there were no funds God will punish all these bastards!!! |
onyechez:They actually tried to divest and run away when they lost a case against a Nigerian. ShopRite tried to cheat a Nigerian that was in the process of partnering with them at the initial stage but the Nigerian man took them to court and eventually won the case. |
Austine1213:India has more poor people than South Africa, now does it mean your local market is anywhere close to theirs? Even with your acclaimed 90m people living in poverty in Nigeria, we still have another 110 million Nigerians living above poverty which is still higher than your total population |
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