Austine1213:


GDP is nothing really, Nigeria has GDP of 450b SA has of 360b

Yet Nigeria national budget is $29b and SA is $130b

Even talking of wealth south africahas wealthiest people in africa with $700b in its population, while nigeria is $250b and egypt at $370b

Shma2020:
2030 list of most developed countries..
1 Egypt
2. South Africa
3. Kenya
4. Ethiopia
5. The rest.

obaaderemi:
What truth?
I want to learn from you so I don't understand your anger here.

I would appreciate it if you told about South Africa's companies that are founded and owned by blacks. And not BEE or PIC stuff.
Because like you said, the best way to learn about a country is through its people.

For Nigeria, I can give you Globacom, Innoson Vehicles, Gtbank, Access Bank( Africa's largest bank), Helios and more.

obaaderemi:
What do you want me to know? You started it all by saying Nigerians don't own companies in other countries except drug and kidnapping rings. And I told you the South African companies we know are all white- founded. At least Nigeria has big companies founded by Nigerians. [/b]One of those companies is an employer of labor in south Africa. PIC is like BEE, a way to help blacks own parts of white founded South African companies.
The only thing I want you to teach me now is [b]major South African companies founded by blacks and not PIC investing in MTn, Shoprite,etc.

obaaderemi:
I know what the PIC does. But it's not what black south Africans need. It is fuelling corruption. The PIC is more or less an affirmative action thingy. I know a thing or too about such things.

Austine1213:


Pic is over 90% black,

theenchanter:
the widest intra-city road in nigeria is 10lane, the largest interstate is 12lane, dont mix d two. And yes, abuja-kano is under construction.

kgr28:
This giant of Africa ant called Nigeria is one big lie. How come biggest economy in Africa is such a mess?
GDP USD: 448.12 bn
BUDGET USD: 29 bn
Population: 200 mill
SA:

GDP: 351.34 bn
BUDGET: 130 bn
Population: 55+ mill

Nigeria is an informal/ rural economy.

rvp20182:
Yet another Naira devaluation of 5.5% - year to date - 21% - the overcooked GDP will end less than 300B dollars.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-07-04/nigerian-central-bank-devalues-naira-by-5-3-at-currency-auction

mrlien:


Investors need to get their money out. It’s a business. They invest in foreign currency and need foreign currency out in terms of dividend, royalties and share of profit. Imagine investing $100,000 in Nigeria 4 years ago and that same money is now worth $70,000, it’s a huge loss.

eby001:
Roadblocks to cashing out, see excuse as if say e dey easy to cash out of South Africa

DexterousOne:



The biggest banks are in south Africa tho

But you are right
We have some of the biggest brands on the continent

Femiolunloyo:






You are right. They will most likely be stricter with those who don't have real or convincing reasons to go to South Africa. Applicants with good reasons must be conversant with the rules of the game. I understand this might not be practical always but bank account statements usually determines a lot too.

I also perfectly understand your views Geenosko and they are very much valid too.
But let us look at two issues you have highlighted above:
1. visa application processing time
2. xenophobia

When it comes to the visa application, South Africa regards Nigeria as a high volume visa demanding country. This is due to the fact that South Africa receives on average, about 450 visa applications EVERY DAY across the three VFS centers for SA in Naija!! Truth be told, they are overwhelmed with visa applications and of course, under-staffed too. As Nigerians applying for visas to South Africa, we can safely say the visa application volume is responsible for the delays we experience.

As per xenophobia, it is a complex beast that is difficult to define in South Africa because there are several factors responsible for these attacks on African migrants. It will be unfair to say that only one thing leads to xenophobia in SA. Some of the causes are extremely high levels of joblessness and poverty in South Africa. Crimes committed by African immigrants in South Africa are also responsible. Corruption and abuse of power among law enforcement officers is a driver too. Meanwhile, the Oga patapata and chief activator of the beast itself is careless comments made by their local leaders. These things weave together to get things out of control.

What we need to do is to warn our people who think there are massive economic opportunities in South Africa for the average Nigerian. There is absolutely NONE! Nobody should be deceived. You must be exceptionally skilled to enjoy living in SA. Otherwise, South Africa is superbly nice for holidays. Southee is not for hustling ooo. As an unskilled person, you cannot find a job except the person wants to waste years on the street doing things never bargained for. There are Nigerians who out of frustration end up selling drugs, running prostitution rings, and printing counterfeit money for survival. All of these are extremely grave crimes anywhere. Our people must not see SA as that paradise that can suddenly turn their lizard-self into a crocodile! Most South Africans are hungry, angry, and suffering bitterly, and when they see you, they assume you have come to take their opportunities and will bite you. poverty is real there.

To be fair, I think xenophobic attacks is a very difficult event for the Nigerian government to deal with it. Not that they cannot do anything but their actions may actually make things worse. I personally think our government has been very patient and have acted matured and should be commended. But the area where they must do more is to help victims of xenophobia to get closure. People have lost a lot and many have died too. They must pressure SA for justice in that regard. For now, the best we can all do is to 'hope' the attacks never happen again.

earthsync:
And South Africa don't have money more than Nigeria o

pacretus:
kenya doesn't come close, not even in top 5

South Africa doesn't earn more than Nigeria in music or movie industry.
Do your research.
S.A. has good movies but an unrecognised industry.

In music it goes like this
Nigeria
Southafrica
Ghana
Cameroon
DR Congo
Ivorian
Senegal
Tanzania
May be kibera

LeSudAfricaine:
Rather argue the points I made don't just close off with blanket statements.

.only the white side of South Africa was developed,

South Africa is more than Zulu people. And yes the current South African government has made giant strides in developing the country further

MrBONE2:


Nooooooo

It happened in Zimbabwe

KLEINBASS:
The article forgot to mention that their refusing to be taken back to their respective countries.

madjune:
So South Africa get money pass Nigeria?

Why blame folks that are there hustling and dying?

Dasuks:


SA is home to industrial concerns and premier service sector firms that are owned by locals. Well they've been connected to the globalized economy for longer and have developed actual companies that make things. Actual companies that dont need govt patronage to survive in the long term.... look around Lag Abj and PH there's a lot around as well.

You have raw materials, midstream processing firms and large scale down stream operations of all sorts. Retail is strong. Tourism is strong. Agric is advanced.Tech (including defense industry) is strong and the financial services sector there is home to every kind of institution from I-Banks to retail to PE to VCs etc. They get to benefit from every ones wealth as well thru finance.JSE is Africa's largest exchange.

Take for e.g Naspers, Africa's biggest firm by market cap. They have diverse interests and actually derive their wealth chiefly from their China based investments in tencent and the rest. Again the point of being more globalized.

Then again, it's most the European populations that hold this wealth.

Princedapace:


They don't know how robust SA is.

GavelSlam:
This guy must have been robbing in South Africa.

seankafor:
I wish it was south Africa or Ghana we were at trade war with...could have loved it.

Benin and niger are just infants..

We need to hit hard on these African backstabers

tlotlomath:
My dear brothers and sisters I am not xenophobic towards any foreign nationals is just drug trafficking and human trafficking is a big problem in South Africa whereby most Nigerians are the masterminds behind those operations and many South Africans get caught in the crossfire and the cops in South Africa are taking bribes from these drug peddlers. I am worried that African countries are divided while the whites continue to exploit Africa in every corner. I am not saying all Nigerians are corrupt I even met great African entrepreneurs who are willing to work with me to take Africa to the next level and what I like about Nigerians is that they take pride in their own beliefs and cultures unlike South Africans. Africa must be saved

panafrican:
The South Africans can build a 1km-high wall around their country and stay there with no contact with other African nations. End of the story.
Africans were not going to South Africa that much during the apartheid regime and skies did not fall.

JaceBlaze:
And he failed to mention that it's not the "European settlers" who sell drugs in SA streets and force minors into prostitution.Trevor also fails to mention that the whole world view Nigerians with scorn,not just South Africa,and wait..didn't the country he resides in (USA) recently arrest 80 Nigerians for various fraud cases? so who are the real scums of the black race? .There are Nigerian prisoners even in godforsaken countries like Togo

Many African migrants are undocumented,there's no way those stats are 100% accurate.

And you seem to have dodged Buhari's statement completely,he said more than 60% of you are hopeless illiterates who sit and bask in the sun while awaiting free housing all just because you got oil and you feel you don't have to work.Are you gonna disprove that or are you keep draining Trevor's nutbag?

says one of the 200 million illiterate masses who can't get a tiny country like Nigeria running.

jrusky:
Apatheid should return with all pleasure it's welcome infact it has be my prayer to see apatheid return so that these bastards South Africans will have their f u c k I n g heads bruised mercillesly and will be left alone to suffer it this time.

Pls the return of Apatheid is highly welcome.

Elliot2:

Mention one country you will not find Nigerians doing really great things in terms of academics, business,social,e.t.c. You will find Nigerian doctors winning awards;Nigerian students breaking academic awards;Nigerians being given awards for rare humanitarian work or saving a life. We read it here almost every other day,a Nigerian being celebrated in the diaspora. But just mention two or three instances were foreigners do incredible things in Nigeria. How often do you get to read a foreign citizen do incredible things here as they reside? When Nigerians travel out, they take the host like home and work hard to add value. But how many foreigners do this?