Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Kumuyi's Son Apologise, controversy finally laid to rest by Pygru: 9:44pm On Jun 30, 2013 |
frosbel: none of your business , I have not invited anyone including you to join an organisation , church or fellowship.
I am a Christian.
 wetin be ya church name ? I want to be a member. I want to come out of 'darkness'. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Kumuyi's Son Apologise, controversy finally laid to rest by Pygru: 9:25pm On Jun 30, 2013 |
OLAADEGBU: My anti-deeperlife friend, tell us where you fellowship for us to see whether you are a fellow sheep and not a wolf in sheep's clothing.   |
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Kumuyi's Son Apologise, controversy finally laid to rest by Pygru: 7:09am On Jun 30, 2013 |
OLAADEGBU: Frosbel and babyosisi would make for a compatible partnership as they seem to be using this medium to vent their personal grudges against DL.  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Kumuyi's Son Apologise, controversy finally laid to rest by Pygru: 1:29am On Jun 30, 2013 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Kumuyi's Son Apologise, controversy finally laid to rest by Pygru: 1:21am On Jun 30, 2013 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Kumuyi's Son Apologise, controversy finally laid to rest by Pygru: 1:14am On Jun 30, 2013 |
flourishG: I hv no business with their cult system for all I care.am against hypocrisy, one sided standard n hypocrites n snakes like u who will not say d truth even when it is clear.if I see snake n u, I will first kill u b4 I kill da snake because pple like u are devilish. [size=38pt]Exits thread!!![/size] |
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Kumuyi's Son Apologise, controversy finally laid to rest by Pygru: 1:13am On Jun 30, 2013 |
jlounge: If the apology was to the church and the Pastor, I guess you shouldn't have brought it here. It was directed to those it was meant for. A person outside a home may not fully comprehend why children apologize to their family for what they could have done better. Its for the family's consumption. seconded |
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Kumuyi's Son Apologise, controversy finally laid to rest by Pygru: 1:10am On Jun 30, 2013 |
flourishG: ^^^
https://www.nairaland.com/1333595/mrs-kumuyi-wedding-outfit-vs
That's d tread for their wedding outfit n their cult leader that don't allow other members dress such on their own wedding day attended d wedding. you follow dem plan the wedding  Apart from wetin those gossip sites talk, do you have any other details about the wedding  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Kumuyi's Son Apologise, controversy finally laid to rest by Pygru: 1:01am On Jun 30, 2013 |
flourishG: did u miss yr medication still?go n read other thread n see their wedding pix,u millennium fool. who made you a judge  You follow dem plan the weeding  Abi you follow dem attend  Oya tell me, Why are you so Fixated on DL  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Kumuyi's Son Apologise, controversy finally laid to rest by Pygru: 12:55am On Jun 30, 2013 |
flourishG: I know pple like u too well n know u how to take care of yr empty dummy head.  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Kumuyi's Son Apologise, controversy finally laid to rest by Pygru: 12:50am On Jun 30, 2013 |
flourishG: u should still b breastfeeding then with ya low iq.y dont u shut dat ya mouth when u dont hv full detail rather Dan cover them hypocrites up.doesn't dat put u in same hypocrisy? who made you a judge  You follow dem plan the wedding  Abi you follow dem attend  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Kumuyi's Son Apologise, controversy finally laid to rest by Pygru: 12:45am On Jun 30, 2013 |
flourishG: blessed u are among women.dats what we saying to this dump n empty head pygru n d babysitters here.  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Kumuyi's Son Apologise, controversy finally laid to rest by Pygru: 12:39am On Jun 30, 2013 |
flourishG: hypocrite n liar u are.u brood of vipers.aren't u familiar with d story?what stupid full gist u waiting for thou hypocrite?son of kumuyi n his wife wore on d wedding what kumuyi barred others from wearing on their wedding day n yr dump trash head saying u don't jv full gist.yr head is really insaned. unlike you, I am not hasty to condem because I no get full gist of wetin happen. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Kumuyi's Son Apologise, controversy finally laid to rest by Pygru: 12:34am On Jun 30, 2013 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Kumuyi's Son Apologise, controversy finally laid to rest by Pygru: 12:32am On Jun 30, 2013 |
iv4fb: @texaco1, I agree with you on these. The couple went outta line knowing their doctrines but calling the church a cult is grossly cruel and wrong choice of words.
Have u seen frosbel's messages in the religious section? That guy is certainly one of the false prophets that ought to come during the last days. U don't even need the bible or any religious knowledge to see thru his evil doctrines
And for flourish.., in the ladt days, evil should flourish. [size=38pt]Succinct![/size] |
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Kumuyi's Son Apologise, controversy finally laid to rest by Pygru: 12:26am On Jun 30, 2013 |
flourishG: then u must b a baby sitter for dl.hypocrite!why jump into d thread to cover for their hypocrisy if u wanted ola d Judaizer to come answer da question. @ bolded, who made you a judge...  Smh! |
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Kumuyi's Son Apologise, controversy finally laid to rest by Pygru: 12:22am On Jun 30, 2013 |
flourishG: if u not siding them what da heck u covering their one sided standard for?you same hypocrite like them. unlike you, I am not hasty to condem because I no get full gist of wetin happen. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Kumuyi's Son Apologise, controversy finally laid to rest by Pygru: 12:14am On Jun 30, 2013 |
frosbel: the question is who made you and your pastors judges over God's people , to decide what they should wear, where they should go to or who they should talk to ? Na Ola get dat question I tell you say I be deeper  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Kumuyi's Son Apologise, controversy finally laid to rest by Pygru: 12:12am On Jun 30, 2013 |
frosbel: I can see your holiness in action.
smh.  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Kumuyi's Son Apologise, controversy finally laid to rest by Pygru: 12:12am On Jun 30, 2013 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Kumuyi's Son Apologise, controversy finally laid to rest by Pygru: 12:10am On Jun 30, 2013 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Kumuyi's Son Apologise, controversy finally laid to rest by Pygru: 12:06am On Jun 30, 2013 |
texaco1: i am not siding deeper life but calling them a cult is what i am trying to prove to them that is wrong neither am I |
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Kumuyi's Son Apologise, controversy finally laid to rest by Pygru: 12:03am On Jun 30, 2013 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Kumuyi's Son Apologise, controversy finally laid to rest by Pygru: 11:55pm On Jun 29, 2013 |
texaco1: i wonder ooo That was how she was jumping about  for that other thread. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Kumuyi's Son Apologise, controversy finally laid to rest by Pygru: 11:53pm On Jun 29, 2013 |
babyosisi: There are people that will read you even after the thread is dormant and their eyes will be opened Focus on them and don't be discouraged by those attacking you Maybe God wants to set some people free by this wedding and the outcome they are making of it There is a season and time for everything.  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Kumuyi's Son Apologise, controversy finally laid to rest by Pygru: 11:47pm On Jun 29, 2013 |
babyosisi: Characteristics of a religious cult
They practice separatism and devote much of their time trying to proselyte others.
Their efforts to convert others are underhanded and manipulative.
The group’s leaders claim to be God’s prophets or messiahs or apostles who receive “divine revelations.”
They teach that all other churches and groups are lost unless they surrender what they have and join them.
Their leaders are dictatorial and demanding, either directly or subtly.
They claim to have the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.
Members are expected to attend study sessions where they are firmly indoctrinated (“brainwashed”) with the group’s mundane creeds and human theories.
They resent having their doctrines and creeds questioned.
They believe salvation and afterlife are found only in their camp.
Those who desert the group are judged evil and apostates.
They dictate almost every facet of the members’ lives—sexual, social, domestic, political, and spiritual.
They deny that God has other children scattered over the hills and valleys of sectarianism.
They believe God’s elect are found only within the borders of their own enclosure.
Honest dissidents are disciplined, avoided, and excommunicated.
They insist on strict conformity to the group’s doctrinal standards.
Their teachings contradict plain truth.
Their source of authority is of human origin.
They require a new convert to be rebaptized, even though he was sincerely baptized previously.
They have devised their own translation of the scriptures and prohibit any translation not approved by them.
Members are expected to give large amounts of money and ample energy and time to the group’s activities.
They allege to be the only legitimate interpreters of scripture.
They wrest scripture to foster their belief system.
There are other cultic marks unknown to this scribe, but these are sufficient to establish our premise.
http://www.mindspring.com/~renewal/Cults.html are you in anyway related to frosbel  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Kumuyi's Son Apologise, controversy finally laid to rest by Pygru: 11:45pm On Jun 29, 2013 |
frosbel: well , seeing that you were booted out of the political section for being a nuisaance , and now you are here doing the same thing, there has to be something wrong, no ? Booted out  Na because of you I come religion section. The day you leave Nairaland religion section, I go return!!!  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Kumuyi's Son Apologise, controversy finally laid to rest by Pygru: 11:32pm On Jun 29, 2013 |
frosbel: I You need to see a psychologist asap
 Yeah, you be one ? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Kumuyi's Son Apologise, controversy finally laid to rest by Pygru: 11:31pm On Jun 29, 2013 |
SailorXY: The satanist?  Maybe... But im title na chief False prophet/teacher of Nairaland. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Kumuyi's Son Apologise, controversy finally laid to rest by Pygru: 11:25pm On Jun 29, 2013 |
Mintayo: did u just say cult?smh... you no know frosbel ? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Kumuyi's Son Apologise, controversy finally laid to rest by Pygru: 11:25pm On Jun 29, 2013 |
frosbel: Yes bro, I am here to preach deliverance to the captives of the cults of MEN.
 you never deliver yourself na others you wan deliver... Smh |
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Kumuyi's Son Apologise, controversy finally laid to rest by Pygru: 11:20pm On Jun 29, 2013 |
frosbel: It is an unspiritual person that wants togo back to the shadows of Christ in the Old Testament—the rituals, ceremonies or laws do not help us today.
The legalist will have women wear dresses down to their ankles for their holiness and forbid them to wear pants. Back in the days when the Bible was being written men and women both wore robes (maybe they should not even wash their cloths together!)-- Ido not subscribe to women wearing very short skirts, or dress as if they are going to a club as they are not to use their freedom to stumble others). But the church is not allowed to make its own rules outside the Bible to control this. People are to be taught biblical principles to gain understanding so they won’t do this, not just be forbidden by rules
In a legalistic church they cannot go to movies or play games. Men must have their hair short, women long. But men wore their hair longer back in biblical days! A Nazarite was not to cut his hair at all. Women are not fraternize with men by a swimming pool or be baptized with them. They are forbiddento go out with other couples. Much of this gets to be ridiculous. Certainly thereare lines to be upheld but there are extremes that damage people more than help them.
There is always a potential misuse of pastoral authority on the part of some pastors. We are not just referring to quirky ideas but teachings that remove people from grace.
Diotrephes (3 Jn. 9-10) is a example of apastor that lorded it over the flock, demanded unquestioning loyalty and his pastoral authority was abused does not encourage people to test him continually by God’s Word. He even forbade the assembly to be with other believers outside themselves, even the apostles.
One of the marks of a cult is the way people are treated when they question authority (for good reason) and then refuse to follow the leadership. When people are asked to submit to a church without question, submit to the pastor or leadership without good reason there is a problem. Once a person no longer submits to the doctrines of a church or come under the “authority” of a church or the cult’s leadership they are made miserable if they stay. They are mistreated and even asked to leave. It does not matter if the church is large or small, cult-like churches come in all sizes. In fact, it is far easier to have people leave a large church because they will not be noticed they left.
http://www.letusreason.org/Cult24.htm here he comes again..  smh |